Remove My Links From Your Site, Because They Are Hurting My SEO

by tpw
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LOL

I just received the following in my email box:

Hi,

I work for the company xxxxxxx.com.

Your web page:

http://www.xxxxxxxxxxxx.com/Article/...x-xxxxxx/28172

is linking to our domain and is causing us penalties in Google!

Since this link is hurting our business very badly I need to get this link removed.

Therefore I politely request that you remove the link to our site xxxxxxx.com immediately or as soon as is possible.

Many thanks for your cooperation in advance.

Kind Regards

If you have any questions please contact me here:
xxxxx@xxxxxxx.com

This link appears on a website that is an article directory.

This particular article directory provides free article submissions to anyone who wants to set up an account with the website.

As an author, you can submit your articles through your own Author Login Account -- and by extension, you can also delete all of your articles from the site.

In other words, the person making this request has the ability to remove the offending item themselves, without asking me to do it on their behalf.

A buddy of mine who owns another article directory responds to requests like this with a demand for payment, for him to do the manual removal.

I have personally never desired to do such things myself, but this is a website I haven't logged into in over six months. I was never paid to accept the link, nor was I ever paid to host the article.

Would you do the manual removal or send them an email telling them to log into their account and do it themselves?
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  • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    Would you do the manual removal or send them an email telling them to log into their account and do it themselves?
    My first question: Are you being serious?

    My actual response would be to send them a very, very, very long and scientifically-worded email that basically asking them to prove it was your singe link damaging their entire SEO campaign.

    If they were to provide proof that would stand up in court, I would then ask them to prove that I put it there.

    Once I got that, I would ask them to provide a second opinion on the evidence gathered from an independent SEO CSI Investigator.

    ...

    And I'd see how long I could keep it going. It sounds like it'd be fun to me.

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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      And I'd see how long I could keep it going. It sounds like it'd be fun to me.

      When you put it in those terms, it does seem like it could be a lot of fun. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author AtaArticles
    I've had a few of those emails requesting to remove their links. I did remove them myself and then send them a reply.
    But after reading your thread, i may reconsider and just ignore it or ask them to remove it themselves from now on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    Well since it seems that my email wasn't powerful enough,
    I will again ask you publicly & politely To remove your links ASAP
    My site is hurting and I'm sick and tired of it!
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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      Originally Posted by Kal Sallam View Post

      Well since it seems that my email wasn't powerful enough,
      I will again ask you publicly & politely To remove your links ASAP
      My site is hurting and I'm sick and tired of it!
      If this is a genuine comment, perhaps you could explain how the link to your site came to be in Bill's article directory? I'd be interested to know.

      Saying you are "sick and tired of it" implies that someone else added the article on your behalf. Perhaps you should be taking a snipe at them, not Bill.

      Again - that's assuming this was a serious comment. I might be having a failure to notice humour.
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      • Profile picture of the author fin
        Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

        If this is a genuine comment, perhaps you could explain how the link to your site came to be in Bill's article directory? I'd be interested to know.

        Saying you are "sick and tired of it" implies that someone else added the article on your behalf. Perhaps you should be taking a snipe at them, not Bill.

        Again - that's assuming this was a serious comment. I might be having a failure to notice humour.
        No, I'm Spartacus. It was me who spammed Bill's site.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          I've tried walking in Bill's shoes. I just can't make it work in heels that high... :p
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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

            I've tried walking in Bill's shoes. I just can't make it work in heels that high... :p

            Oh man!!

            That cut deep!!
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          • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
            Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

            I've tried walking in Bill's shoes. I just can't make it work in heels that high... :p
            A redneck marketer in high heels = not the kind of mental image you want to entertain before or after meals or at bedtime.
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            • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
              Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

              I might be having a failure to notice humour.
              Originally Posted by fin View Post

              No, I'm Spartacus. It was me who spammed Bill's site.
              Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

              ........ not the kind of mental image you want to entertain before or after meals or at bedtime.
              ........... and certainly not if, like me, you're suffering from a sense of humour failure

              Maybe I need stronger glasses.
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              • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
                Let's see if I've got this straight:

                1. Internet marketer needs link juice for G rankings and blasts thousands of links to various other people's online properties.
                2. Internet marketer gets humped by the penguin, and realizes he can no longer have boatloads of spammy links pointing to his site.
                3. Internet marketer sends an email blast to all of the sites where he deposited mass spammy links and asks them to spend their time to remove the offending links.
                Have I got that right?

                I have an 'Ignore' button that works real well for this kinda stuff - It's labeled 'Delete'.
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                • Profile picture of the author tpw
                  Originally Posted by cjreynolds View Post

                  Let's see if I've got this straight:

                  1. Internet marketer needs link juice for G rankings and blasts thousands of links to various other people's online properties.
                  2. Internet marketer gets humped by the penguin, and realizes he can no longer have boatloads of spammy links pointing to his site.
                  3. Internet marketer sends an email blast to all of the sites where he deposited mass spammy links and asks them to spend their time to remove the offending links.
                  Have I got that right?

                  You nailed it in one swing of the hammer.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
                    While I stand behind my decency/courtesy comment, I was under the impression that this was a "legit" request versus all automated.

                    If it was automated, thousands of links, spamming, etc. I think I would have a different reaction.

                    Mark
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                    • Profile picture of the author tpw
                      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

                      While I stand behind my decency/courtesy comment, I was under the impression that this was a "legit" request versus all automated.

                      If it was automated, thousands of links, spamming, etc. I think I would have a different reaction.

                      Mark

                      The take-down request was not processed through my contact email address, but instead processed through my Domain Registrar, by contacting Whois Privacy. However the email was constructed using exact information from my website, which could have been done manually or by automation.

                      The actual article currently resides on 6,810 web pages, according to a Google query using quotes around the article title and quotes around the author name.

                      Searching both the article title and author name is a more accurate method for finding exactly how many places an article is published. If you search only article title, then you get a lot of false positives from RSS feeds, etc.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Jeannie Crabtree
                        That is crazy and crazy making for the site owner. Articles on that many pages shows it was automated somehow.

                        If people think they can throw all that up and then demand the owner of the sites take it down, it is delusional. It is the old "suffer the consequences of your actions" situation.

                        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                        The take-down request was not processed through my contact email address, but instead processed through my Domain Registrar, by contacting Whois Privacy.

                        The actual article currently resides on 6,810 web pages, according to a Google query using quotes around the article title and quotes around the author name.

                        Searching both the article title and author name is a more accurate method for finding exactly how many places an article is published. If you search only article title, then you get a lot of false positives from RSS feeds, etc.
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                • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
                  Originally Posted by cjreynolds View Post

                  :

                  1. Internet marketer needs link juice for G rankings and blasts thousands of links to various other people's online properties.
                  2. Internet marketer gets humped by the penguin, and realizes he can no longer have boatloads of spammy links pointing to his site.
                  3. Internet marketer sends an email blast to all of the sites where he deposited mass spammy links and asks them to spend their time to remove the offending links.
                  The actual article currently resides on 6,810 web pages, according to a Google query using quotes around the article title and quotes around the author name.
                  Obviously, the most reasonable interpretation is this person has 6809 quality backlinks, and one extremely terrible backlink from Bill that is creating Google penalties.

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                  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
                    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

                    6809 quality backlinks, and one extremely terrible backlink from Bill that is creating Google penalties..

                    Any link created by the site owner is extremely terrible according to the message Google would have left the site owner in their Webmaster Tools account. I don't know why you think the owner is picking on this one link in particular.

                    It's a linked endorsed by Bill's article directory. Links not endorsed by the site owner should be set to no-follow, like most advertising platforms.
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                    • Profile picture of the author tpw
                      Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

                      Obviously, the most reasonable interpretation is this person has 6809 quality backlinks, and one extremely terrible backlink from Bill that is creating Google penalties.

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                      Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

                      Any link created by the site owner is extremely terrible according to the message Google would have left the site owner in their Webmaster Tools account. I don't know why you think the owner is picking on this one link in particular.

                      I am pretty sure Brian was joking.
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                      • An interesting thread! I would say that it is better to ignore the e-mail and go to other sites. Post your articles there where it can drive more traffic in this site than theirs! Then when they realized that, maybe they can ask you again to post those links again.
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                        • Profile picture of the author davidjames42973
                          I received one of these emails a few days ago...

                          Hey David,

                          As you may be aware there have been some recent Google updates which have prompted us to actively review links to our web site.
                          Our research has identified your site as one which links to us and we would like to request that you remove the links that exist on your site:

                          http://www.nameofthedomain.com

                          If you could please advise once this request has been actioned, I would greatly appreciate it. Alternatively if you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

                          Best,

                          John Doe
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                          • Profile picture of the author rustydog
                            Well, here is an example of someone that is using this to get their competitors links removed:

                            The following message was sent to you via the Contact Us form by John H ( COMPANYNAME at gmail.com ). <--- Notice the Gmail Account

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                            To Whom It May Concern, we have recently been informed by Google that certain links to our website, COMPANYURL/companyurl.com - domain link Resources and Information, may appear unnatural.

                            We would like to respectfully request removal of the link to COMPANYURL.com/companyurl.com located here: mywebsiteurl/userprofile/location-of-link

                            Please reply to this email once the link(s) have been removed to prevent additional inquiries.

                            If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at:

                            John H
                            TARGET COMPANY NAME
                            555-555-1234 <--- Gave Company Name and a Phone Number that rings a company in Ohio that Answers as a Call Center

                            Thank you for your time.


                            So, out of curiosity I looked up the number of the company and called their webmaster and he informed me that many of his link building efforts have been countered by an unknown competitor trying to get their inbound links removed from the web.

                            Seems the niche is highly competitive in a local market and the targeted company is the local leader.

                            Anyone else seen this twist?
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                            • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
                              This is an entirely Google created problem for those wanting Google rankings. All Google has to do is not credit links it does not think are valuable. Problem solved.

                              As soon as Google indicated it may penalize bad links it created a problem that will ultimately destroy Google's search rankings. You cannot penalize bad links without creating an incentive for everyone to try and nuke their competitor. Or for someone just out of kicks to do the same. Or for someone unintentionally to do that.

                              Even better ... I dare say Google should pay me about $10 million for this incredible idea ... Google doesn't have to index every bit of spam crap on the web. Several hundred million pages could instantly disappear from Google's index and no one but spammers would care.

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                • Profile picture of the author unclejoe
                  I own my own article directory and I do this for people that ask nice and I only do it once. If they ask again I just tell them they need to log in and take care of it themselves.
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                • Profile picture of the author ot
                  Originally Posted by cjreynolds View Post

                  Let's see if I've got this straight:

                  1. Internet marketer needs link juice for G rankings and blasts thousands of links to various other people's online properties.
                  2. Internet marketer gets humped by the penguin, and realizes he can no longer have boatloads of spammy links pointing to his site.
                  3. Internet marketer sends an email blast to all of the sites where he deposited mass spammy links and asks them to spend their time to remove the offending links.
                  Have I got that right?

                  I have an 'Ignore' button that works real well for this kinda stuff - It's labeled 'Delete'.
                  Nail => head.

                  Ignore it or ask for a fee to remove it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Anoosh Kashefi
      Originally Posted by Kal Sallam View Post

      "the code has been cracked"
      apparently so.
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  • Profile picture of the author hostwindsEvanM
    While funny, I think the guy has a point and is doing the due dilligence to upkeep the site best as possible. Id politely honor the request.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by hostwindsEvanM View Post

      I'd politely honor the request.

      Even when he can do it himself, without asking me to do it for him?


      Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

      add another page linking to their site with a copy of their email

      LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
        Well, at least they aren't being particularly threatening or sending DMCA notices to your hosting provider (like in that other thread). :p

        But at the same time, doing this for them would only encourage them to continue bugging other site owners to clean up after their previous backlinking efforts. I would probably tell them they can delete the links themselves at any time, and leave it at that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by hostwindsEvanM View Post

      While funny, I think the guy has a point and is doing the due dilligence to upkeep the site best as possible. Id politely honor the request.
      Make him remove his own link since he put it there in the first place. Or charge for the removal.

      Seriously - make these people start all over again with a new site if they want to re-control what links they have floating around out there.

      I am in the middle of a move this week and have had a ton of crap stored in a basement. We hired some kids to move it to storage.

      My stuff was in someone elses basement. So do I ask her to move my crap for me? Uh, lol. Not happening. I had to travel 8 hours to come and move my crap - and pay some kids to move my crap for me too.

      I think the internet should be the same. You put your links or whatever where ever and if you are not happy about it you need to go move it yourself or expect to pay to do so.
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    At a minimum you should feel insulted he thinks so lightly of your site.
    I agree it is only speculation about Google penalties.

    I'd either ignore the request, add another page linking to their site with a copy of their email, or charge a fee for your time. As you said, he posted it - he can remove it himself.

    edit: I don't know if Kal Sallam is actually the emailer. If so, I'd double the fee due to the forum post. If it is K.S., before publicly saying you have a crap site that penalizes others due to links, he'd better be posting some proof.

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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    What's the big deal.

    It could be someone who forgot they had an account, someone doing it on behalf of someone else - what does it matter?

    If you can't be bothered then at least point them to how to do it themselves.

    It doesn't take much to have a template email for such requests.

    Why make them out to be the problem?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      My thought is send an email with both options. For free, he can log in and remove it himself (here's a link to the directions). For a fee, you can remove it for him. Unlike Jason, I'd keep it short and sweet since the original is reasonably polite.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      What's the big deal.

      It could be someone who forgot they had an account, someone doing it on behalf of someone else - what does it matter?

      If you can't be bothered then at least point them to how to do it themselves.

      It doesn't take much to have a template email for such requests.

      Why make them out to be the problem?

      Because they are the problem. They imagine that magically making the link disappear from my website will help their SEO, just as they once imagined that adding their link to my site would magically improve their SEO.

      I don't believe in magic.

      People should not be waiting on Google to send them traffic. Instead, they should be focused on getting targeted traffic from any place they can see to get it, with little regard for Google, because at the end of the day, Google doesn't look out for anyone but Google.

      These folks apparently have little regard for the people who have given them free advertising, because they are unwilling to take the necessary steps to see how they can fix their own mess. They want someone else to invest their time to fix their "imagined problem" for them.

      Honestly, it will take more time for me to send them any sort of email than it would for me to manually remove their article from my database, so as far as I am concerned, I only have two options:

      1. remove their article;
      2. ignore their request.

      I know most people in my shoes would choose number two.

      I will certainly choose option number one, as I have done for years.

      I posted the email here, because I thought it could result in some interesting discussions, and it has.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hogre
    LOL...
    That's a template email from a guy who used Article Marketing Robot to blast his site,so the reply is futile.He's got like thousands of that kind of links.No way is he going to pay for that type of service.Hit "delete" and be done with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    If you (general sense - not directed at anyone) had a real business (offline type) and someone came in and asked if they could borrow the phone because their car was broke down or if you could help them jumpstart their car or this or that or the other you'd probably do it in most cases - just out of common courtesy.

    Same goes for most neighbors, family members, friends, people at church, members of your child's PTA, etc.

    For the most part common courtesy is what happens in the real world in most or many situations.

    Why is it different online? Pen names and proxy servers and who knows what else have removed a lot of the decency that happens in real life.

    This is just a theoretical question - if it's that you feel you don't have time to remove the link or tell them how to do it - how do you feel you have the exact same amount of time to post here about it? Same time, same effort for the most part, etc.

    Don't take this the wrong way because no offense is intended but sometimes, seriously, we need to wear the other guys shoes. If it was your site and you knew something was hurting it and you didn't know how to fix it so your grandmother couldn't get her medicine now because the money dried up after the latest slap (or whatever) wouldn't you want someone to be willing to take 30 seconds and help you out?

    Not taking a shot at you Bill - just disagree on this one issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeannie Crabtree
    You could add a page to your site with the instructions of what to do if they want to have their links/aritcles removed.

    A. log in and do it themselves

    B. Pay someone to do it, whether that is you or an assistant.

    Then just have a cut and paste email that goes out whenever someone makes that request. It looks like there will be a lot more of it than there used to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeLogan
    Definitely ignore it! Requests like these, and the tasks they create for yourself are just time wasters and keeping you from doing things that actually make you money!
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  • Profile picture of the author GMT
    I think you should honor his request and just remove his site. It'd take only a moment of your time, and he was polite about it, and there's no reason not to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremyja
    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    Would you do the manual removal or send them an email telling them to log into their account and do it themselves?
    Neither one. I would just ignore him.
    He is not a little poor guy who needs help, he is a little spammer.
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  • Profile picture of the author gushy0202
    I read in an email from webpronews that Google may bring an option where webmasters can request to ignore links that they consider inappropriate.

    Not sure if its available right now. But it may solve this issue (and negative SEO too?)

    Now a days people worry way too too much about backlinks more than Google itself.
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    • Profile picture of the author GMT
      Originally Posted by gushy0202 View Post

      I read in an email from webpronews that Google may bring an option where webmasters can request to ignore links that they consider inappropriate.

      Not sure if its available right now. But it may solve this issue (and negative SEO too?)

      Now a days people worry way too too much about backlinks more than Google itself.
      They should of had the option from the beginning, instead of just punishing everyone and expecting them to try and undue potential damage that they may not of even caused(as in a shady site back linking to them).
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    Would you do the manual removal or send them an email telling them to log into their account and do it themselves?
    I really enjoyed your response Mark. Good to see.

    If I got that email and I was actually proud of the website the link was on then I'd politely let them know how they can remove it and any others on the site they no longer need. I wouldn't explain why I'm not doing it for them or anything else unnecessary.

    Life's too short to get worked up over something that could be dealt with in minutes.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I'd just remove the link and hope that someone would give me a pass next time I'm a dope.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Personally I would wonder if it was actually their site it was linking to at all. There are tons of people out there offering different types of negative SEO services and one of those includes sending emails like this to all of a competitors backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      Personally I would wonder if it was actually their site it was linking to at all. There are tons of people out there offering different types of negative SEO services and one of those includes sending emails like this to all of a competitors backlinks.
      *Facepalm* The things that people come up with these days. Not you, the people you are talking about of course.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

        *Facepalm* The things that people come up with these days. Not you, the people you are talking about of course.
        I find it amazing that people are going to this length to remove a backlink in the hope Google will turn around and improve their rankings...when they could spend half the time just looking for new traffic methods they actually have the slightest level of control over.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          I find it amazing that people are going to this length to remove a backlink in the hope Google will turn around and improve their rankings...
          But, but that's what Google said would happen! Wait, it wasn't? It's just another SEO myth to throw on the pile? Well, shoot we should tell them!

          They don't want to listen? Oh well.

          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          when they could spend half the time just looking for new traffic methods they actually have the slightest level of control over.
          Control=work. Bleh lol.
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

            Control=work. Bleh lol.
            Yes sorry. I didn't mean to mention that filthy word, or even imply it existed.

            I feel...dirty.
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        • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          I find it amazing that people are going to this length to remove a backlink in the hope Google will turn around and improve their rankings...when they could spend half the time just looking for new traffic methods they actually have the slightest level of control over.
          this deserves to be highlighted...I could not have said it any better!

          Bill, my advice, for what it's worth, is to just remove the damn link and move on to more important things
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  • Profile picture of the author dgmufasa
    Hi - I am new to all of this. Is there some kind of option one can use in Wordpress to be sure no one else can post their links on your site? TIA
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  • Profile picture of the author IvinViljoen
    I would refuse and tell them people pay you $150 for a link and removal is double.

    Hurt his site, the cheek. There's others who are literally begging people for links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Berg Canon
    Not a question about what is right or wrong in this situation, but if you left the article but made the link "no follow" would that solve the problem?
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  • Profile picture of the author nasuryono
    Thanks to the Penguin update, it is now possible to do backlinking to HURT your competitors.

    The search results from Google is now at the lowest point in the history because of the Penguin update.

    Things are kind of hectic in the SEO world now so I'd suggest you just ignore that message for now.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Fin: They weren't under my nose... They were over my head...
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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    The website is linkdelete.com. You should check it out. Maybe it wasn't even a person who emailed you.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I keep getting more and more paranoid that one day google is going to slap me. Mainly because my site keeps slowly crawling higher and higher and we are now becoming very dependent on the traffic we're recieving. Which I know is a trap somewhat. Even though I have no spammy backlinks I'm still very paranoid.

    Can someone please clear this one fact up for me in the most straight forward way possible. IS GOOGLE, or IS GOOGLE NOT, penalizing websites for spammy backlinks? Or are they just deindexing those links?

    The reason I ask this is although I'm using whitehat backlinking techniques, I work in a niche where my competitors have no moral compass whatsoever. I know this because I've met many of them over the years at homeshows and what have you (this is a local business not MMO).

    I have good ties with some of them but still don't trust a single one of them. In fact the more I learn about their business practices the more I fear what they might attempt on our site. So if they start building spammy links to our site, people are saying I can actually get penalized for this? We have a pr3 rank (not that high I know), but none of our competition is higher than that in this one local niche. It makes us a target one would assume.

    If this is true, google is ****ing up big time imo.

    Thanks - Red
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      Can someone please clear this one fact up for me in the most straight forward way possible. IS GOOGLE, or IS GOOGLE NOT, penalizing websites for spammy backlinks? Or are they just deindexing those links?

      1. Yes. Today, they do penalize.

      2. In the old days, they would de-index linking pages AND ignore bad links.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        This is an entirely Google created problem for those wanting Google rankings. All Google has to do is not credit links it does not think are valuable. Problem solved.

        As soon as Google indicated it may penalize bad links it created a problem that will ultimately destroy Google's search rankings. You cannot penalize bad links without creating an incentive for everyone to try and nuke their competitor. Or for someone just out of kicks to do the same. Or for someone unintentionally to do that.

        Even better ... I dare say Google should pay me about $10 million for this incredible idea ... Google doesn't have to index every bit of spam crap on the web. Several hundred million pages could instantly disappear from Google's index and no one but spammers would care.

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        Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

        I keep getting more and more paranoid that one day google is going to slap me. Mainly because my site keeps slowly crawling higher and higher and we are now becoming very dependent on the traffic we're recieving. Which I know is a trap somewhat. Even though I have no spammy backlinks I'm still very paranoid.

        Can someone please clear this one fact up for me in the most straight forward way possible. IS GOOGLE, or IS GOOGLE NOT, penalizing websites for spammy backlinks? Or are they just deindexing those links?

        The reason I ask this is although I'm using whitehat backlinking techniques, I work in a niche where my competitors have no moral compass whatsoever. I know this because I've met many of them over the years at homeshows and what have you (this is a local business not MMO).

        I have good ties with some of them but still don't trust a single one of them. In fact the more I learn about their business practices the more I fear what they might attempt on our site. So if they start building spammy links to our site, people are saying I can actually get penalized for this? We have a pr3 rank (not that high I know), but none of our competition is higher than that in this one local niche. It makes us a target one would assume.

        If this is true, google is ****ing up big time imo.

        Thanks - Red
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        1. Yes. Today, they do penalize.

        2. In the old days, they would de-index linking pages AND ignore bad links.
        Yup...I'd say "Google Bomb" has taken on a whole new meaning.

        Yet another reason to not rely too heavily on ANY one source of traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author DeborahDera
    I am not 100% sure why the OP has not responded to the person commenting who is claiming to be the person who sent the email. Am I the only one missing this?

    I have requested link deletion before (for guest blog posts where the client didn't pay); but I basically sent an honest reason to the site owner; allowed them to keep the article; and asked (politely) for either replacement with a different link OR removal of the link altogether. I've never asked someone to remove a link "because it's damaging my SEO," though. His imbalanced ratio in his linking strategy is more likely the problem...
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by DeborahDera View Post

      I am not 100% sure why the OP has not responded to the person commenting who is claiming to be the person who sent the email. Am I the only one missing this?

      Because that fellow was joking with me.

      As you become more familiar, you might start to notice that I have running jokes with dozens of members here in the forum. We like to have fun.
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  • Profile picture of the author theimdude
    Given me a idee. After the Penguin update I have a article site with 55000 articles (all pages was indexed prior to Penguin) deindexed by google. I might put up a notice if you want your link removed pay me $1
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    • Profile picture of the author valkerie
      I honestly don't know what to say. Google has created a mess and negative SEO companies have made it worse. As someone who's spammed links (me bad,) I've always taken the responsibility for my own stupidity. If I put 'em out there, I won't bother another webmaster to remove them.

      However, as someone who's had their links put in competitor's template codes, (and I've never understood that practice,) and have dealt with a pharma hack, (you try cleaning 87,000 links to non-existent pages on your site, many from social booking sites,) I will ask occasionally to have a link removed.

      The sooner G comes out with a link remover tool, the better. Not that I'd use it.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by valkerie View Post

        However, as someone who's had their links put in competitor's template codes, (and I've never understood that practice,) and have dealt with a pharma hack, (you try cleaning 87,000 links to non-existent pages on your site, many from social booking sites,) I will ask occasionally to have a link removed.
        There's a huge difference between politely asking to have a link removed and the quasi-legalese demands making the rounds. And an even bigger difference with sending spurious DMCA notices claiming copyright infringement for having a company's link in a page.

        Originally Posted by valkerie View Post

        The sooner G comes out with a link remover tool, the better. Not that I'd use it.
        Can you imagine how paranoid the folks suffering from forced "free traffic" withdrawal would be if Googlebots actually had a way to go into web pages and modify the database or source code of the pages they spidered?

        And in that case, an old saying might apply...

        "Just because you are paranoid does not mean something is not out to get you."
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  • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
    If it was a real request, I'd point them to the login and then tell them if they needed me to do it, it would require a charge to verify their identity.
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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    Spammy methods carries spammy unlink request... I would ignore the mail and let the other 6,809 sites where the article was submited to worry about...
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  • Profile picture of the author CBusiness
    i ask for fees to remove links........... hands down
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  • Profile picture of the author Ralph Moore
    Hey Bill,

    It sounds to me like some Warrior is punkin' you. :-)
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