How to Host PDF Info Prod.(to avoid indexing)?

12 years ago

If I just send them the PDF in an email, idk have to worry about it getting "indexed", right? I can just attach it from my computer. Is this safe?

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ChocolateCheese

12 years ago

Yes, you can send the PDF in an email and that couldn't get indexed. But I suggest you don't do that. There is a reason why pretty much everyone is sending out download links rather than sending files directly.

Here's one solution for doing it with a download link.
create a folder in your ftp account.

Example, if your website is:
bathunter.com
then create the folder
bathunter.com/secretdownload/

then open a text editor, and save an empty file as "index.htm"

then you create a new file in the text editor and put this inside:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /secretdownload/
and you save that as robots.txt

then upload this into your main website folder.

then upload this into your secretdownload folder:
index.htm and your PDF.

If you do this, your PDF file won't get indexed by google, yahoo or bing.

There are many other ways, but this one works and is free :-)

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Peter ONeill

12 years ago

Originally Posted by ChocolateCheese

Here's one solution for doing it with a download link.
create a folder in your ftp account.

Example, if your website is:
bathunter.com
then create the folder
bathunter.com/secretdownload/

then open a text editor, and save an empty file as "index.htm"

then you create a new file in the text editor and put this inside:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /secretdownload/
and you save that as robots.txt

then upload this into your main website folder.

then upload this into your secretdownload folder:
index.htm and your PDF.

Yes just want to confirm that this is what I do and it works fine.

You can also log into google webmaster tools an they have a page where they help you out with this.

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Campbell24

12 years ago

I think I'm going with this method actually, but can't tell exactly what to do:

Originally Posted by ChocolateCheese

Here's one solution for doing it with a download link.
create a folder in your ftp account.

Example, if your website is:
bathunter.com
then create the folder
bathunter.com/secretdownload/

then open a text editor, and save an empty file as "index.htm"

then you create a new file in the text editor and put this inside:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /secretdownload/
and you save that as robots.txt

then upload this into your main website folder.

then upload this into your secretdownload folder:
index.htm and your PDF.

If you do this, your PDF file won't get indexed by google, yahoo or bing.

There are many other ways, but this one works and is free :-)

Idk where to go. I log in to my cPanel, go to addon domains, click on my document root. And then I'm in the "File Manager". Where do I go from there?

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Chrisbroholm

12 years ago

I'm not sure if this is a possibility for you, but I use Amazon S3 for this which works well :-)

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Empower4u

12 years ago

Hi there, I did an online course on SALES Funnels which was very good and I have learned a lot from it. If you are intrested , PM me.

ChocolateCheeses' method is free and works. It was also mentioned in that online course.

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contentwriting360

Banned 12 years ago

Hello bathunter,

You may want to check out this link below. Our fellow Warriors responded to this thread and they quite touched your question there.

How to Protect Your Media Within

I hope this helps.

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Campbell24

12 years ago

Why would I not want to just attach the file from my computer? I'm not sure if this is possible in aWeber actually(w/ automated emails). Just curious....

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by bathunter

Why would I not want to just attach the file from my computer?

So many reasons ...

1. People buying things online expect and want immediate delivery, so you need an automated process and it's far easier to send out a link

2. It'll be a nuisance for you to do, and what's going to happen when you're not online?

3. You might even have bandwidth/volume/email-sending problems, eventually?

4. It's just not what people expect and it comes across as unprofessional

5. People don't like emails with attachments - what you send out often won't even make it into people's inboxes, which will only cause you further administrative problems and possible even some complaints and/or refunds

6. You'll be missing an opportunity to give further information, links, upsells, OTO's and so on, on a download page in addition to by email

That's just for starters ...
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Campbell24

12 years ago

Ok I am sold on sending out links. Is Amazon S3 a legitimate way to go? What benefits does it have over Chocolate Cheese's method? I see S3 will cost under a dollar a month so it's basically free...

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hostwindsEvanM

12 years ago

Using an htaccess would prevent the file being indexed.

Emailing it to them is a good idea as it would encourage open rates and participation for an active list. However, it may be more difficult to automate e-mailing a file.

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rhinocl 12 years ago

If you are on a host with Cpanel you can password protect the folder containing your downloads. that should keep the indexing bots out.
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sriram rajan

12 years ago

File Location --> You can use dropbox and share that public link..

Also you can split test 2 things , one with a relate OTO offer before giving the FREE report access , and another FREE report access download page , then do your email marketing tactics....

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Yadira Barbosa

12 years ago

I use Amazon S3 and works great for me.

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Campbell24

12 years ago

Chocolate Cheese, could you elaborate on that method? I don't really know what I'm doing and don't want to mess up vital folders in my FTP account. I've never created a folder there so I'm unsure of how to do it.

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rosetrees

12 years ago

I'm not quite sure what you worried about. Google can't index a pdf. Just upload it to the root directory of your website. In the email you send, add a link to mysite.com/mydocument.pdf

Anyone clicking on the link will instantly download the pdf with nothing for google to find or index since it isn't a page on your site.

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Campbell24

12 years ago

I'm pretty sure Google indexes all kinds of PDFs.

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rosetrees 12 years ago

Originally Posted by bathunter

I'm pretty sure Google indexes all kinds of PDFs.

My bad - you're right. Sorry.
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  Originally Posted by rosetrees
  
  My bad - you're right. Sorry.
  
  all kinds of file are being index even those that you instructed not to .... knowing a little of hacking codes for search engines so that we can get along ...and more every files and document have their code of exposure you can read more from my blog
  
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Randall Magwood

12 years ago

Put it in a zip file, then upload to your website. Search engines can't read inside the zip files. Have your users get a program like Winzip to unzip the file.

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contentwriting360

Banned 12 years ago

Hello Randall,

I believe your answer is what we've been looking for.

We previously uploaded our samples on our website as they are (in .doc and .pdf formats) and the content gets crawled by SEs. So, we just converted each page to an image, removed the .doc/.pdf files, and uploaded the images in a zipped folder. I believe we should have just zipped the original files instead of converting them to images.

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Originally Posted by Randall Magwood

Put it in a zip file, then upload to your website. Search engines can't read inside the zip files. Have your users get a program like Winzip to unzip the file.

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Campbell24

12 years ago

I did it on one of my crappy sites just for a test. Now I see what to do. Only a few issues:

The page is black and white, and says:

Index of/secretdownload

Parent Directory(link to homepage)
PDF(link to PDF(but NOT an actual "download"))
Index

Apache/jdksjf/9485945(this is a line of weird looking technical web ****)

Anyways, that's not exactly what I want to send people to.

How can I make my page look more professional?
Is there a way to use my WP theme for that page?

Why is the index file necessary(it's just a blank document)?
I used index.html because my computer didn't provide the .htm option. Does that make a difference?

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Campbell24

12 years ago

Idk about your method Randall. I personally don't want to ask people to go download another program and then unzip my file. It is a little bit of a hassle.

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contentwriting360 Banned 12 years ago

Hello bathunter,

I believe there's no need to download Winzip or Winrar or any application program that can zip files/folders. If you're using Windows Operating System, simply right-click the folder select 'Send To' and 'Compress (zipped) folder.'

I am not sure with Mac.

Originally Posted by bathunter

Idk about your method Randall. I personally don't want to ask people to go download another program and then unzip my file. It is a little bit of a hassle.
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Campbell24

12 years ago

What about the problem of people getting the PDF and saving it? Do we need to make it so that they can't even save it? Is this even possible?

(Because if they can save it they can share it)

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Campbell24

12 years ago

Check out this example with Chocolate Cheese's method(I did it on one of my useless sites for a test). Is this really what you want to send people to? Index of /secretdownload

I like the method. But it needs to be improved upon somehow for appearance reasons, don't you think?

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contentwriting360

Banned 12 years ago

IMHO, you can embed the link as a hyperlink. Come up with a phrase that may make more sense to the recipient(s).

For example, 'Click here to download.' Embed the link to that sentence.

Originally Posted by bathunter

Check out this example with Chocolate Cheese's method(I did it on one of my useless sites for a test). Is this really what you want to send people to? Index of /secretdownload

I like the method. But it needs to be improved upon somehow for appearance reasons, don't you think?

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rhinocl

12 years ago

pdfs can be created with digital rights that allow or prohibit all kinds of things like printing, editing, saving. The problem is it makes a pain for your users. They have to supply a password every time they read the file.

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Micah Medina

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rhinocl

pdfs can be created with digital rights that allow or prohibit all kinds of things like printing, editing, saving. The problem is it makes a pain for your users. They have to supply a password every time they read the file.

I usually tell clients not to stress themselves out with securing a PDF unless its really sensitive and only for a handful of people.

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Campbell24

12 years ago

How can I make such a hidden page and still use a WordPress layout? I want it to look nice for my customers.

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contentwriting360 Banned 12 years ago

Hello bathunter,

If I understand you correctly, you want to know how to hide a page in WordPress.

We're not an affiliate of this WordPress plugin but we used this before. It's called WP Hide Pages.

I hope it helps, bathunter.

Originally Posted by bathunter

How can I make such a hidden page and still use a WordPress layout? I want it to look nice for my customers.
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Campbell24

12 years ago

I used chocolate cheese's method on my real site. The thing is, when you click on my link in the "secret download" folder, the PDF just opens up in the same browser(it's a page on my website). How can I make it so that the PDF downloads to the subscriber's computer as a file? (This is how it is done by professionals I have noticed)

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ChocolateCheese

12 years ago

Originally Posted by bathunter

I used chocolate cheese's method on my real site. The thing is, when you click on my link in the "secret download" folder, the PDF just opens up in the same browser(it's a page on my website). How can I make it so that the PDF downloads to the subscriber's computer as a file? (This is how it is done by professionals I have noticed)

sorry for the late reply.

In that case you can create a "download page" to which you send your subscribers:

bathunter.com/secretdownload/download83.html

And in download83.html you create a link to the PDF file and and you write:
"Right mouseclick and click on Save As" or something like that - and then it will download to their computer instead of opening in their browser.

Hope this helps.

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Big Al

12 years ago

I used chocolate cheese's method on my real site. The thing is, when you click on my link in the "secret download" folder, the PDF just opens up in the same browser(it's a page on my website). How can I make it so that the PDF downloads to the subscriber's computer as a file? (This is how it is done by professionals I have noticed)

Good question, I've had PDFs that downloaded to my computer without opening.

But you could always zip it (the PDF that it : ) and that should make them have to download it.

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