Turning $60 in traffic into 6 figures by doing the opposite.

11 years ago

Thanks for sharing buddy, when you say you spent a couple of grand, do you mean on your own sites using other sites to put your advert on? I have never used adsense but nhave thought about it a few times.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by theomegaformula

I spent a couple grand in AdSense in the past on a few sites and pretty much lost it all. I've found that buying packages from smaller companies pays off much more in the long run.

I was paying about $0.50-$1.20 per click (PER VISITOR!) with AdSense and I swear most of them had to be fakes. Now I pay about $0.005 per visitor and found a very easy way to make it profitable.

It's all about your expenses. The top selling company may not always be the best choice for you. Don't get caught up in using the expensive guys. Sometimes doing the opposite of what everyone else is doing is the best method. I lost a lot of money before I figure out I was going about it the wrong way. Just some friendly advice.

Sorry I'm a bit confused.

Are you paying to have your ad on the top selling sites?

I'm not an AdSense expert at all, I'm just trying to figure out how you lost so much using it, when most are using it to make money.

Who are these "expensive guys" you were using? I can only assume, if you were paying $0.50 - 1.00 a click you were deciding where to put Adsense ads that linked to your site and you found the big companies didn't give you the returns the smaller guys did?

:confused:

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Sorry I'm a bit confused.

Are you paying to have your ad on the top selling sites?

I'm not an AdSense expert at all, I'm just trying to figure out how you lost so much using it, when most are using it to make money.

Who are these "expensive guys" you were using? I can only assume, if you were paying $0.50 - 1.00 a click you were deciding where to put Adsense ads that linked to your site and you found the big companies didn't give you the returns the smaller guys did?

:confused:

Yes, I meant AdWords. I still use AdSense for revenue but I don't advertise using AdWords anymore.

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11 years ago

So you basically moved away from Adwords and went with second tier search engine PPC? Welcome to the club.

Paid traffic is awesome if you can generate profitable campaigns. When you have your first successful campaign, Its only a matter of scaling it to increase your profits.

Just remember to track your ads and tweak them for maximum EPC's. Just one simple tweak could turn a lousy, failed campaign into a profit pulling winner.

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Originally Posted by simplewriting

So you basically moved away from Adwords and went with second tier search engine PPC? Welcome to the club.

Originally Posted by SteveSRS

I've seen some email on this from exactseek..

Could you guys list some of those 2nd tier PPC search engines.. I would be interested in trying some also.

But he hasn't mentioned AdWords, that's why I'm confused, he said he has lost money with AdSense.
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  Originally Posted by Richard Van
  
  But he hasn't mentioned AdWords, that's why I'm confused, he said he has lost money with AdSense.
  
  Lol, How can he loose money with Adsense? I'm pretty sure he meant Adwords. I could be wrong though , Hopefully the OP clears this up.
  
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[QUOTE=Paid traffic is awesome if you can generate profitable campaigns. When you have your first successful campaign, Its only a matter of scaling it to increase your profits.

Good luck[/QUOTE]

Sorry I'm kinda new to this whole thing.. what do you mean when you say "if you can generate profitable campaigns" how you do hav a successful campaign?
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11 years ago

I've seen some email on this from exactseek..

Could you guys list some of those 2nd tier PPC search engines.. I would be interested in trying some also.

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Originally Posted by SteveSRS

I've seen some email on this from exactseek..

Could you guys list some of those 2nd tier PPC search engines.. I would be interested in trying some also.

I won't post the links here but you can PM me.
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- Richard Van 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by theomegaformula
  
  Yes, I meant AdWords. I still use AdSense for revenue but I don't advertise using AdWords anymore.
  
  Cheers, I couldn't quite figure that one out.
  
  Originally Posted by simplewriting
  
  Lol, How can he loose money with Adsense?
  
  That's why I was asking.
  
  Actually you can easily loose money with AdSense. Try randomly using the display network in AdWords.
  
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Here you go:

Let me google that for you

Originally Posted by SteveSRS

I've seen some email on this from exactseek..

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  Originally Posted by simplewriting
  
  Here you go:
  
  Let me google that for you
  
  hehehe that's a cool site... however although I appreciate your sarcasm google doesn't necessarily provide me with the best options.. I was looking for some human feedback on some..
  
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  Here you go:
  
  Let me google that for you
  
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  what happened to theomegaformula? anyone send money to his private traffic supplier?
  
  Warriors,
  
  Just to let you know I decided to follow through on this and contacted theomegaformula with a PM. He provided me with the e-Mail address to contact his supplier.
  
  So I contacted the traffic supplier and received confirmation e-Mail of my order and an update e-mail that they had started my order. This is a test for me so if I can remember, I'll come back and let you know how things went for me.
  
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AlisonTaylor

11 years ago

Yeah I've heard of a few horror stories about adwords it's pretty dire actually. Google is only 30% of the traffic out there. I'm sure he is using PPV which is cheaper to test at least initially.

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11 years ago

I've been getting a lot of PMs about this but I didn't mean to confuse anyone.

I'm not using any public PPC companies. I found a private traffic supplier that I pay $60/month for run of network worldwide traffic that works out to about 1k-2k visitors/day. The key is how you monetize it though. There's no PPC companies I've tried that match the amount of traffic for that price.

For the sake of competition I'm not going to post the information publicly but if anyone wants to know feel free to PM me.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by theomegaformula

I've been getting a lot of PMs about this but I didn't mean to confuse anyone.

I'm not using any public PPC companies. I found a private traffic supplier that I pay $60/month for run of network worldwide traffic that works out to about 1k-2k visitors/day. The key is how you monetize it though. There's no PPC companies I've tried that match the amount of traffic for that price.

For the sake of competition I'm not going to post the information publicly but if anyone wants to know feel free to PM me.

The key with any type of traffic is how you monetize it. Generally if you're purchasing INT. traffic at those kinds of prices you're pretty darn limited to what you can monetize it with as well.

Here's an awesome example of what type of offers immediately come to my mind when I hear about dirt cheap international traffic.

Iminent Emoticons - All Countries | Affiliate Programs, Offers

EPC: 0.0016

Maybe I'm just being a bitter minded hater, if it's working good congrats.

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Randall Magwood

11 years ago

I feel your PPC woes. Google Adwords traffic is good and so is Microsoft Adcenter's. Other than these two, i wouldn't mess with any other PPC company.

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Originally Posted by Randall Magwood

I feel your PPC woes. Google Adwords traffic is good and so is Microsoft Adcenter's. Other than these two, i wouldn't mess with any other PPC company.

I don't think you understood the post.
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11 years ago

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Banned 11 years ago

It would be really cool if you could give some more tips for the PPC newbies in here.
I did try 7search but didn't get much profit.

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Joey Montano

11 years ago

I'm pretty sure OP is saying that he doesn't buy PPC. He just buys targeted traffic for a fraction of the cost (check the WSO section for some examples). Yet people still keep thinking he's talking about PPC

And just because...

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Anthony La Rocca

11 years ago

Haha Joey I was about to get that link posted soon too...sheesh!

Originally Posted by Joey Montano

I'm pretty sure OP is saying that he doesn't buy PPC. He just buys targeted traffic for a fraction of the cost (check the WSO section for some examples). Yet people still keep thinking he's talking about PPC

And just because...

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marketwarrior06

Banned 11 years ago

People search trust. And adword is the thing that is trusted. that's why people go for them and spend a lot of money. but most of them don't get success. so its better to find an alternative and start again.

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JohnMcCabe

11 years ago

Originally Posted by theomegaformula

I don't think you understood the post.

That's Randall being Randall. Understanding the post has nothing to do with dropping his sig in popular threads, something he does 25-30 times a day.

His comments are just close enough to relevant that he doesn't get bounced for spamming, but there's rarely any meat in them.

Just do like the rest of us do and ignore him...

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

That's Randall being Randall. Understanding the post has nothing to do with dropping his sig in popular threads, something he does 25-30 times a day.

His comments are just close enough to relevant that he doesn't get bounced for spamming, but there's rarely any meat in them.

Just do like the rest of us do and ignore him...

Been wonderin bout him :rolleyes:

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11 years ago

Sorry to hear your story. Moral of the story is: invest in knowledge first before doing any paid advertising.

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11 years ago

I have never understood How people blunder into adwords losing thouands when they could buy a WSO or course on running profitable adwords campaigns for $27 or so first.

If you know what you are doing adwords is very affordable and always brings great results

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11 years ago

Hey its nice to hear that you are actually making money now. It would be nice if you can share some of the sites which members here can use for PPC marketing. I mean the sites that actually send quality traffic for economical prices.

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theomegaformula

11 years ago

Since I've been getting tons of PMs about this please send your email address and site links and I will send the information to you if I think it can help you.

I can only have 10 PMs in my box so I can only reply by email. Thanks.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by theomegaformula

Since I've been getting tons of PMs about this please send your email address and site links and I will send the information to you if I think it can help you.

I can only have 10 PMs in my box so I can only reply by email. Thanks.

Can you give me more info on what exactly you are using? I can't send PMs yet on here, I need to have more posts so I'll just leave my email here.. sxpmarketing@gmail.com

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theomegaformula

11 years ago

Ok, I've responded to everyone and cleaned out my PM box. If you didn't get a response from me or were unable to PM me before you should be able to now and I will respond. Thanks.

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theomegaformula

11 years ago

Well, thanks for all the requests. My supplier was so impressed with the interest in the service that he started giving buy one get one free campaigns for people I've told here on WF.

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theomegaformula

11 years ago

Originally Posted by austinslimteddy

I have tried adwords before and it worked perfectly for me. Am still using it to drive traffic to my website through the home biz guy owner of [spamlinkremoved]

did you just spam my topic?

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johntan17

11 years ago

Hi theomegeformula,

Can you tell us what is your conversion like?

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by johntan17

Hi theomegeformula,

Can you tell us what is your conversion like?

My main product converts at around 15% - I have other products that convert at over 90% which are more expensive sales but take usually take longer to sell.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by theomegaformula

My main product converts at around 15% - I have other products that convert at over 90% which are more expensive sales but take usually take longer to sell.

Wow, that is quite an unbelievable conversion rate from such a cheap traffic source! From my experience, if you want to get a 90% conversion rate, you must target those longtail buyer keywords from PPC or SEO.

Can you reveal a bit more information about your traffic source?

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by johntan17

Wow, that is quite an unbelievable conversion rate from such a cheap traffic source! You must have a squeeze page for all your landing pages right? Any OTOs? Is your traffic from PPC, PPV, Solo Ads, social media or any other type? Would be grateful if you can reveal a bit more information about your traffic source.

I use several different methods, most of which you won't read about. I've developed the marketing and monetization methods myself based on the traffic. None of the traffic is PPC. I pay one flat price per month which turns out to be a couple thousand visitors per day then I just focus on monetizing those visitors the best I can. There's no real secret to it.

If I bought the same amount of visitors from AdWords it would cost me around $15,000 per month.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by theomegaformula

I use several different methods, most of which you won't read about. I've developed the marketing and monetization methods myself based on the traffic. None of the traffic is PPC. I pay one flat price per month which turns out to be a couple thousand visitors per day then I just focus on monetizing those visitors the best I can. There's no real secret to it.

If I bought the same amount of visitors from AdWords it would cost me around $15,000 per month.

Thanks for the information. I have received your PM about the traffic source. Going to test the traffic and see how it goes.

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11 years ago

90% conversion? Really?...... Man I can smell B.S!....

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Originally Posted by wDigital

90% conversion? Really?...... Man I can smell B.S!....

If you smell BS stop trying to sell people crap.

The end game for me is giving people what they want, not trying to make a single sale. My 90% conversion rate comes from selling unique products to people that are already looking for them. If you're not doing it that way, you're probably doing it the hard way.
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11 years ago

what was the method you were using with adwords? Were you just getting search enging traffic or were you posting your ads on sites as well?

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11 years ago

thi is really great to hear.... have sent you a pm... thanks!!!

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11 years ago

Bit curious and it seems too good to be true. sent a pm

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theomegaformula

11 years ago

Once again everyone... My PM box gets full quickly so if you're going to send me a message please leave your email address and I will respond to you.

I probably won't respond if you don't send your email because I can only have 10 pms in my inbox and sent folder at one time and it's a hassle to maintain.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by theomegaformula

Once again everyone... My PM box gets full quickly so if you're going to send me a message please leave your email address and I will respond to you.

I probably won't respond if you don't send your email because I can only have 10 pms in my inbox and sent folder at one time and it's a hassle to maintain.

my PM contains my email as well

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DubDubDubDot

11 years ago

Wake up people. This thread is creative spam for a traffic service.

How this isn't obvious to you people is beyond me. Brighten up.

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Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

Wake up people. This thread is creative spam for a traffic service.

How this isn't obvious to you people is beyond me. Brighten up.

Do I know how to call 'em or what? lol
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amithak50

11 years ago

It's the selection of keywords ..mostly long tail keywords that you can bid on ..Adwords still can do wonders for you

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Originally Posted by amithak50

It's the selection of keywords ..mostly long tail keywords that you can bid on ..Adwords still can do wonders for you

The problem with most long tailed keywords is that they can't generate hundreds or thousands of visitors/day consistently. Consistency is the difference between making a profit and making a living.
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Ken Leatherman

11 years ago

I'm more than willing to find out more details, so I sent a PM.

DubDubDubDot: Wake up people. This thread is creative spam for a traffic service.
How this isn't obvious to you people is beyond me. Brighten up.

If you will notice the OP does not have a signature, but what the hay, its a lazy Saturday afternoon and we may learn something from the OP. Remember this may be ideal for someone trying to get their Alexa ranking as well.

One of the points which stands out to me is the OP is talking about consistent traffic.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman

I'm more than willing to find out more details, so I sent a PM.

If you will notice the OP does not have a signature, but what the hay, its a lazy Saturday afternoon and we may learn something from the OP. Remember this may be ideal for someone trying to get their Alexa ranking as well.

One of the points which stands out to me is the OP is talking about consistent traffic.

Ken

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I don't make anything off giving people this information so don't pay attention to the hecklers.

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robcop

11 years ago

I hate Google so much. They banned my Adwords account for no reason. I just wanted to test things out for the first time so I made a test ad (that didn't even went live) and left it as it was. I come back after a year just to find my ADwords account banned. So I asked them why did I got banned and they couldn't even give me an answer to that.
So no more Google for me ever again!!!!

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by theomegaformula

I spent a couple grand in AdWords in the past on a few sites and pretty much lost it all. I've found that buying packages from smaller companies pays off much more in the long run.

I was paying about $0.50-$1.20 per click (PER VISITOR!) with AdWords and I swear most of them had to be fakes. Now I pay about $0.005 per visitor and found a very easy way to make it profitable.

It's all about your expenses. The top selling company may not always be the best choice for you. Don't get caught up in using the expensive guys. Sometimes doing the opposite of what everyone else is doing is the best method. I lost a lot of money before I figure out I was going about it the wrong way. Just some friendly advice.

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11 years ago

Ken,
We are waiting for your review. Meantime, I had a look at his (theomegaformula's) posts in WF and found he has bought traffic from a service here for a similar price. And one of the reviews on that thread reads

"Originally Posted by Freddie

Ok, here is my review of this traffic after the first 24 hours or so:

In my opinion this traffic is good for one thing only: To artifically inflate your Alexa rating. If you are in the dubious business of reselling websites with "traffic" as your only selling point - then yes by all means, this may be a good idea.

But if you actually want the visitors to interact with your website and generate some profit for your business, well then it is pretty useless. Frankly, I believe this is bots, not humans.

Yes, I received a steady flow of "visitors". So far so good. However, the supposed US/CA/UK/EU traffic has turned out so far to be almost exclusively from Indonesia, Syria, Ukraine and Russia, repeat visits from a limited set of IP's. Some of these IP's are listed as known proxies. I attach a statistics screen shot I made this morning, showing the last set of visitors.

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Every single visitor shows the same referral which is an unknown interstitial ad server with a domain name registered using Godaddy's "Domainsbyproxy" anonymizer service (and coincidentally using the same name servers as both the seller's traffic stat website and the sample client from the first post here).

Not a single one of these visitors has taken any form of action at all on my site. None. I tested this with a very simple landing page with a broad appeal.

As a comparison I simultaneously ran the exact same landing page (on another url) with another known "semi-junky" interstitials source: adf.ly, just to verify that my landing page would actually invite some sort of response from human interstitial visitors.

Results: The adfly traffic was much more responsive to my landing page. I received a decent amount of actions from there, as opposed to zero action from the traffic sold in this thread.

Anyway, if you want to inflate your traffic numbers in order to make sites appear more popular than they really are this may be one way to do it. But if you want to do real business with real visitors, don't bother."

This is not the type of traffic that I am really after, and artificially inflating traffic for a website and selling it basically appear a perfect example of a scam to me. I don't know whether his source is something different from that but still I am skeptical about that. If something is too good to be true, generally it is.

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newbeeonthepark

11 years ago

I'm interested, just PM you for more info.

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williamk

Banned 11 years ago

Wow you are a real pro. My conversion rate is like 8-10% but that too with a lot of patience. Mind sharing a few tips?

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johntan17

11 years ago

An important update to Warriors who are interested in the traffic. I have contacted the supplier and the price is $60 for 1 url per month. He offers you another url free as a bonus. I find $60 a bit pricey and decided to check out for more information about the traffic first before subscribing. I checked through theomegaformula's older posts and found the same supplier selling his traffic in this WSO thread:

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...r-quality.html

I read through some of the reviews from the 7 page long thread and there are much more negative reviews than positive reviews. Guess I would stay away from the traffic.

If I am not wrong, theomegaformula is a JV partners of supplier selling the traffic and using this thread to promote the service, which is illegal in the Warrior Forum. That is why theomegaformula has been banned.

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theomegaformula

11 years ago

Originally Posted by johntan17

If I am not wrong, theomegaformula is a JV partners of supplier selling the traffic and using this thread to promote the service, which is illegal in the Warrior Forum. That is why theomegaformula has been banned.

Sorry for the delayed responses guys. WF mods didn't like me posting information about my earnings and I got blocked for 3 days.

BTW, don't make assumptions and post them publicly. Makes you look like an idiot.

I use 6 traffic suppliers for my sites, and the only ones I mention to others are the ones that work for me.

I'm only here to help and teach people how to monetize cheap traffic because there's a lot of people out there that don't know how.. and they also seem to be the ones complaining about worthless traffic. I've found that 99% of the time if real visitors are going to your site and you're not making money... it's your site or you.

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theomegaformula

11 years ago

Originally Posted by johntan17

If I am not wrong, theomegaformula is a JV partners of supplier selling the traffic and using this thread to promote the service...That is why theomegaformula has been banned.

Yes, you are wrong. I've had DOZENS of traffic suppliers over the past couple years including several from this forum, other forums, and every single one of the top 30 advertising companies. I spend 5 figures every quarter on promotion, I don't spend it all in the same place.. and I obviously generate my own traffic from all of that. My primary advertiser I've been using since the beginning of this year doesn't promote their service and definitely doesn't promote it on wf as a jv, lol.

Clearly you don't know what you're talking about and as for me being banned.. well.. once again, clearly you don't know what you're talking about. :rolleyes:

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OnlineMkter

11 years ago

I warned you, see my post above which contains a review of this WSO service.
If something is too good to be true, generally it is.

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rayrayjetson

11 years ago

I stay away from adwords

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deesonjame

11 years ago

Too good to be true then I guess it probably is

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seether101

Banned 11 years ago

agree with the above post, how realistic is that?

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webdeep

11 years ago

PM sent.

Kris.

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Ericparke

11 years ago

Originally Posted by theomegaformula

I spent a couple grand in AdWords in the past on a few sites and pretty much lost it all. I've found that buying packages from smaller companies pays off much more in the long run.

I was paying about $0.50-$1.20 per click (PER VISITOR!) with AdWords and I swear most of them had to be fakes. Now I pay about $0.005 per visitor and found a very easy way to make it profitable.

It's all about your expenses. The top selling company may not always be the best choice for you. Don't get caught up in using the expensive guys. Sometimes doing the opposite of what everyone else is doing is the best method. I lost a lot of money before I figure out I was going about it the wrong way. Just some friendly advice.

This is easily the best advice I have seen on this forum so far.

Trying to be safe is risky and being risky is safe when it comes to business. Quote from the purple cow book

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Alminc

11 years ago

Monetising that kind of 'traffic' is extremely hard. You must have spent years on learning how to identify who they are and what they want, and you must have sophisticated filtering systems and funnels in place.
For the average marketer who doesn't specialise in that specific field, the return on investment will be ZERO.
One 'good' thing is that it costs only $60 to learn that lesson.

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theomegaformula

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alminc

Monetising that kind of 'traffic' is extremely hard. You must have spent years on learning how to identify who they are and what they want, and you must have sophisticated filtering systems and funnels in place.
For the average marketer who doesn't specialise in that specific field, the return on investment will be ZERO.
One 'good' thing is that it costs only $60 to learn that lesson.

You're right. I did spend years figuring out how to monetize a system like this. That's the reason I figured I would help people learn to monetize this cheaper traffic instead of getting caught in the ppc gamble.

There's no point in spending up to $1/click with places like AdWords when all those same visitors can be sourced by other advertisers for a fraction of the price.

If you can't monetize a site to profitability with thousands of visitors a day then usually it just takes some changes to your site or business plan. I'll help anyone willing to help themselves.

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