What is wrong with my writing?

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I have been writing for around 3 months properly and thus I am still very new to this. I have written over 2,500 articles between fiverr and other websites as well as companies I have approached myself in the local area. However yesterday I got my first complaint and it left me quite sad as before every was bleating on about how good I was etc.

This order came through fiverr and she was paying $15 for 24 hour delivery, which is fine. She left a long list of instructions which I followed. I sent the order, she then said

I am sorry to say that these articles are not very good. The content does not have the correct terminology and the writing is just not very sophisticated. Some of the sentences are not put together properly or written in the best form. There are several punctuation errors as well. Please refund my $15.00 as opposed to me leaving negative feedback on fiverr
Fiverr ended up giving her an automatic refund for this $15. The worst thing is, I am on vacation right now and took 1.5 hours out of my time to write for her (she knew this). I keep reading and I cannot see what is possibly wrong with them, especially not so wrong that they aren't worth $5 a pop.

I am not confident in my abilities as it is, this just totally threw my confidence.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Not entirely your fault here, you just pulled in a customer who was looking for top quality articles for $15 bucks. It would obviously be presumptuous to assume I know what she wanted to use these for, but from her complaint and your writing I can guess that she was looking for something more descriptive.

    Your writing is very basic, kind of read like a school essay actually. The details were not very good, points were repeated often, and the writing does nothing to invoke the imagery that piece like this should create.

    Now, this isn't really your fault, that's not the kind of thing you should expect from a $5 article. If you intend to stay at that price point (and I never recommend that a writer does if they can help it), your writing style will work fine. 1 complaint out of 2,500 articles prove that. If you want to move up the ladder though, your craft is going to need a bit of work.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      You could change your style and make it a lot easier on yourself.

      It seems like you've just researched about 50 things and wrote them all down in single sentences one after the other.

      You need to add a bit of beef to your writing. Things that will engage the reader, but you will also save yourself all that research time.

      I do agree they are well worth $5 each and she ripped you off.

      Don't work for Fiverr. Try and get some freelance clients.
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    • Profile picture of the author Formal Shorts
      I'd echo what joe said. To be honest, I've seen plenty of writing at this price point that is noticeably inferior to what you've written. I imagine many people (as evidenced by your lack of previous disputes) would be more than happy with those articles for 5 quid. The writing is quite basic, and there are some grammar issues, but nothing that would give cause for a dispute over 5 bucks.

      Don't get too disheartened. The more you write, the more you will improve. Ideally, you can work towards increasing your price in line with your ability. If you want, I'll send you on some suggestions to improve these articles later this evening? You might find it helpful.
      Keep your chin up mate.
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  • Profile picture of the author IvinViljoen
    I agree, you get what you pay for. And if that's what you pay, you shouldn't expect a thesis

    But take courage RyanGillam, I starter on Freelancer (which I suggest you rather use for finding jobs b.t.w) and I was frustrated not getting articles for more than $1-3 to write. I started getting lucky and got some $5 articles for reviews etc. Today, I don't write an article unless it's for myself, or it's for a customer that pays $50.00

    That's my article and hourly rate (which is still too low for me).

    You gotta value yourself and like Joe Robinson said, up your game, better yourself.

    I would suggest you start to read Freelancing/writing blogs to help you better your craft and learn the business side of things. I am going to suggest some blogs you read (and I'm not spamminjg here):

    Copyblogger
    ReadWriteWeb and
    Get Paid to Write

    Google them. Some of these are close friends of mine and they'll take good care of you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Toby Couchman
    One complaint in 2.5k sales is perfectly acceptable. Remember you cant please everyone and that sometimes people have alterior motives for complaining.

    Keep writing and most importantly keep honing your skills.

    TC
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  • Profile picture of the author EddieWade
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    I read your first article, as I am also writing articles of this type. Of course, I only have around 400 articles so far...so I have to keep improving my writing skills. It seems to me that the article is perfectly fine. I suppose she could have given you more exact details about what she really wanted from you instead of the harsh reply. But, as Joe said before, this is one single complaint in 2500 articles so...I understand you are feeling quite sad about it, but I think you did great!
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Originally Posted by RyanGillam View Post

    I keep reading and I cannot see what is possibly wrong with them, especially not so wrong that they aren't worth $5 a pop.

    I am not confident in my abilities as it is, this just totally threw my confidence.
    I read your short article on Las Olas Isles.

    I don't think it's worth $15, or even $5.

    I think it's worth at least $25.

    Raise your prices... and look for better clients outside Fiverr.com

    The key is to find the clients who'll make more than $25 from your
    work.

    That's my advice

    All success
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    • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
      Originally Posted by drmani View Post

      I read your short article on Las Olas Isles.

      I don't think it's worth $15, or even $5.

      I think it's worth at least $25.

      Raise your prices... and look for better clients outside Fiverr.com

      The key is to find the clients who'll make more than $25 from your
      work.

      That's my advice

      All success
      Dr.Mani
      This ^

      I haven't read through the pdf's but if you have written over 2,500 articles and this is your first compliant then take it on the chin and move on.

      Unfortunately you will always get people that pick fault - I don't believe she will have done this intentionally, she is just after a very cheap, high quality deal.

      Pop over to Guru.com, Elance.com - take your examples and ask some your clients for testimonials and raise your prices.

      Focus on provided quality and you will look back at this and laugh.

      Don't get disheartened - as they say:

      "You always get one!"

      Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    I rarely disagree with Dr Mani. I have only read the first paragraph of the article on Las Olas Isles.

    There is a punctuation error in the first sentence and a glaring error in the second sentence where you say the area has been "drenched". It might be underwater, but I doubt it.

    Having said that, I don't think the article is in any way bad, or substandard for $4. I'd happily pay that for it, if it was my niche. I wouldn't pay $25 for it because, as someone else said, it kind of sounds like an essay.

    You get what you pay for, and as everyone else said, 2500 happy customers can't be wrong!

    Edit: PS - you can't be "incredibly" unique, "more" unique or anything else. Unique is unique. You can't qualify it!
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    • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
      I agree with rosetrees. $5 is a reasonable price for those articles, but there's no way that they are worth $25.

      Having said that, if you've written 2500 articles, that's a lot of practice. You should be a better writer by now. But you are making a lot of basic, avoidable mistakes. Go to the library and take out a book on English usage. Any book. Read it. Learn from it. Apply it.

      Then you will feel more confident about your writing and, more importantly, be able to charge more for your work.

      .
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    I read the first article. One thing that jumped out at me was that you said "in my opinion" in the middle of the article. Generally, ghostwriters shouldn't inject their opinions into articles, unless:

    1. You are 100% certain the business owner shares this opinion with you, and...
    2. The business owner said it was ok to share opinions in the article.


    That's just one thing in addition to all the other good advice you've already received.

    Cheers,
    Becky
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    • Profile picture of the author Dean Thompson
      Without knowing what the full remit was of the client it's hard to give a full answer.

      In my opinion I think the articles are fine. They do read a little bit formal but as I said I don't know what the client was after.

      When I saw this thread I imagined that your writing would be terrible. I certainly don't think it is and I'd put this setback behind you and keep on honing your skills.

      You can't please everyone.
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      • Profile picture of the author RyanGillam
        Originally Posted by Dean Thompson View Post

        Without knowing what the full remit was of the client it's hard to give a full answer.

        In my opinion I think the articles are fine. They do read a little bit formal but as I said I don't know what the client was after.

        When I saw this thread I imagined that your writing would be terrible. I certainly don't think it is and I'd put this setback behind you and keep on honing your skills.

        You can't please everyone.
        They asked for formal otherwise I try to inject a bit of uhm 'joy' into it but she asked for 'formal and sophisticated'
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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          Originally Posted by RyanGillam View Post

          They asked for formal otherwise I try to inject a bit of uhm 'joy' into it but she asked for 'formal and sophisticated'
          It seems to me that the buyer was looking for a kind of upscale description of the areas she commissioned you to write about. Think professional level travel listing that entices the reader to want to know more about the area/want to see it as a place worth moving to.

          What was written was very basic, but again that was her own fault for trying to get it from Fiverr, where most writers don't have the experience of writing that kind of content.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Ryan, based on the first two articles and what you've posted, I'd wager that the buyer was either a real estate pro or building content for one. (More likely the latter - someone playing at 'Offline Gold' and trying to outsource all the work.) They were looking for articles that sound like they were written by the broker or agent, not a $5/article SEO writer. As such, these were not usable.

        Their bad.

        As far as the articles themselves go, they could be worse. As search fodder, they have mostly the right terms, and they're not offensive. As others said, if you plan to stay at this price point, your results (one complaint) should tell you that you're meeting that standard.

        Like Carol (rosetrees), I rarely disagree with Dr. Mani. Here's one time I do.

        If you want to start charging more, you need to practice putting some life and personality into your writing. Not saying you did this, but the samples I read sounded like a school kid 'rewriting' something from Wikipedia.

        You have potential, though. Keep doing what you are doing to bring in cash flow, but study the craft and you can make a lot more money for a lot less work. 2500 articles in 90 days is a lot of content.
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    • Profile picture of the author Heuristic
      I read through the first PDF on Las Olas Isles and I have to say that I have paid a lot more for a lot less. I would be more than happy to pay $5 for each article as it would take little to get them "publish ready." The subject is a little dry, so it may be hard to inject any sort of personality into it, and that is why the writing may come off as being a little stilted.

      The main problem I see is that you need to review comma use. On a positive note, it is obvious that English is your first language and that puts you way ahead of many $5/article writers out there. In fact, you really need to get out of that $1 per 100 word neighborhood - you are better than that.

      One last thing: I find it amazing that someone would go to Fiverr to have articles written of this required caliber. They are obviously looking to have magazine quality pieces while getting away with paying 5 bucks each .:confused: This cheap-skate is not going to find anything better on Fiverr or anywhere else unless they are extremely lucky.

      My advice: Double your rate (at least), clean up your punctuation, and work on style.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmister
    I read the first article and thought it was pretty decent. Nothing amazing but I would be quite happy to pay $5 for it if it was my niche. I think you could probably up your price a little, try at least $10 next time and see how it goes.

    To improve I think you could add a little flair to your writing to make it more interesting and enjoyable to read. Anyway, I think she was harsh and just wanted some free content.

    If she had pay $50 for these articles then she would have a lot more right to complain!
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    • Profile picture of the author drmani
      Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

      I rarely disagree with Dr Mani. I have only read the first paragraph of the article on Las Olas Isles.

      There is a punctuation error in the first sentence and a glaring error in the second sentence where you say the area has been "drenched"...
      Originally Posted by Gail_Curran View Post

      I agree with rosetrees. $5 is a reasonable price for those articles, but there's no way that they are worth $25.
      .

      Not always are you paid for "perfect English" or "pristine prose"

      Just for perspective...

      * Have you researched the price real estate leads sell for?

      * Did you see that these articles are about $5+ million beachfront properties?

      * And consider that the client probably wants to rank on search results for competitive and very profitable terms?

      Freelance writing is just as much about "marketing" as it is about the technical skills of "writing".

      There are surely folks who sell peanuts to high spenders - but they very likely charge a lot more for them than those who sell them to the rest of the market!

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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    Originally Posted by RyanGillam View Post

    I have been writing for around 3 months properly and thus I am still very new to this. I have written over 2,500 articles between fiverr and other websites as well as companies I have approached myself in the local area. However yesterday I got my first complaint and it left me quite sad as before every was bleating on about how good I was etc.

    This order came through fiverr and she was paying $15 for 24 hour delivery, which is fine. She left a long list of instructions which I followed. I sent the order, she then said



    Fiverr ended up giving her an automatic refund for this $15. The worst thing is, I am on vacation right now and took 1.5 hours out of my time to write for her (she knew this). I keep reading and I cannot see what is possibly wrong with them, especially not so wrong that they aren't worth $5 a pop.

    I am not confident in my abilities as it is, this just totally threw my confidence.
    I stopped reading after the first paragraph. have you got your figures right? 2500 articles in 3 months? That is around 27 per DAY. If you have been working this hard (not smart!) then it's small wonder that your quality has been hit.

    Honestly, work less, work for more. work smarter
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by matt5409 View Post

      I stopped reading after the first paragraph. have you got your figures right? 2500 articles in 3 months? That is around 27 per DAY.
      I agree the OP needs to work smarter, but disagree that these numbers are that ludicrous. For the quality being created and at an average typing speed of 33 WPM (500 words every 15 mins), we're looking at about 7 hours of work if he does a 7 day schedule. $10,000 for the three months ($4 per article) is a lot more than many will ever make online. $15.87 an hour ain't bad for some, although I wouldn't recommend it if it can be helped. It's just like a regular job.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaiganeshv
    I can just back Dr Mani here. Try to come as quick as possible from Fiverr. The article looks way better to be priced as low as $5 a piece. Still you get only $4 for that piece right..

    If you do not get a good freelancing platform you have to think of selling your services directly from your blog/website which makes more easier for your long term customers as well. By this way you can ignore those middle men and their confusing terms which do not protect you freelancers..

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author jaiganeshv
    I can just back Dr Mani here. Try to come as quick as possible from Fiverr. The article looks way better to be priced as low as $5 a piece. Still you get only $4 for that piece right..

    If you do not get a good freelancing platform you have to think of selling your services directly from your blog/website which makes more easier for your long term customers as well. By this way you can ignore those middle men and their confusing terms which do not protect you freelancers..

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Kristabelle
    That is alot of work for $15.. man thats hard work.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by drmani View Post

      Not always are you paid for "perfect English" or "pristine prose"

      Just for perspective...

      * Have you researched the price real estate leads sell for?

      * Did you see that these articles are about $5+ million beachfront properties?

      * And consider that the client probably wants to rank on search results for competitive and very profitable terms?

      Freelance writing is just as much about "marketing" as it is about the technical skills of "writing".

      There are surely folks who sell peanuts to high spenders - but they very likely charge a lot more for them than those who sell them to the rest of the market!

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      Fair points. If the only ones reading them are search spiders, they are probably worth more. Trick is, if they do rank, and get clicked, humans have to read them. Those humans are not going to tell themselves "these articles are pretty good for $5 (or $25)."

      Human readers, especially those contemplating dropping 7-8 figures on a house, are going to read those articles and assume the broker/agent who ultimately bought them wrote them. I know I would not have a high opinion of that broker/agent if I thought that was the best they could do.

      Even more so if I already own one of these expensive homes and I'm looking for a pro to sell it for me.

      Like I said above, the fault here really lies with the person who ordered the articles. They should have realized they were not going to get the level of writing that would inspire someone to trust a multi-million dollar decision for $5 an article (or even $25).
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      • Profile picture of the author drmani
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        If the only ones reading them are search spiders...
        Human readers, especially those contemplating dropping 7-8 figures on a house, are going to read those articles...
        Like I said above, the fault here really lies with the person who ordered the articles. They should have realized they were not going to get the level of writing that would inspire someone to trust a multi-million dollar decision for $5 an article (or even $25).
        John, I'm not saying this is what's going on here, but I'll
        propose it as a "fairly reasonable proposition".

        If the client is a real estate broker who's looking to sell a
        multi-million dollar property on the back of this content, it
        may not be very likely to work well.

        But we don't know that's the case.

        What if this were to go on a plain and simple Adsense website.
        The ads displayed (or CPA offers) would have a decent payout
        per click - and the content is fair enough to grab attention
        of a human reader and pass editorial review.

        Many years ago, I worked on a friend's project where he was
        paying $25 per 150 to 200 word blog post which was pretty
        similar in style and quality to this content piece.

        I was curious and asked. He said the payout per click was
        over $2.00 (even $5 in some niche markets).

        If he got 13 clicks and paid $25 for the article, he's
        MAKING MONEY!


        To get paid higher dollar amounts for what is, in effect,
        *almost* similar quality work is a factor of finding the
        clients who know they will turn a profit off your content.


        That's rarely to be found on fiverr or any other content mill.

        My 2 cents

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I glanced at the first article you listed and read the second one. For $5 I would not be unhappy - but I would be rewriting it before publishing.

      The grammar is decent but there are punctuation errors and run-on sentences. The copy is a bit "dry" and lacks any excitement or interest. It does sound like research facts strung together - BUT writing about a location can be difficult.

      I also question the 2500 articles linked in the sentence with a 90 day time period. I'm a writer and I can't do 27 articles a day on ANY day.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Of the lower end (doesn't that sound negative?) writers asking for advice here lately, your writing is actually decent. I didn't read any of the articles you put up because the writing in your post tells the story. This sentence, for example:

    "I have written over 2,500 articles between fiverr and other websites as well as companies I have approached myself in the local area."

    I understand what you've said but you haven't said it as elegantly as it might have been. That comes down to proofing and editing. That sentence could be a lot clearer. I don't know how long it took you to write 2500 articles but I've been writing professionally for quite a while and I reach my limit at five or six articles a day. I think I once wrote nine in a day and I was pooped. My point is, it's not about quantity, it's about quality.

    Another thing I see a lot is people trying to be something they're not. Your writing seems to have a sense of "forced authority" about it. I think this might be what fin is referring to. The trick to writing anything is to be yourself. I don't care what the topic is. You can almost always write it your way and still get the point across while pleasing the client.

    People think that because they're getting paid they have to assume this air of respectability by sounding like professors or something. That's not the case. 99 percent of my writing is conversational and friendly in tone, even very serious stuff. And it never put clients off in the least because it very often makes dry material interesting and even fun.

    What I'm talking about is finding your voice. Paul Myers has an excellent report on finding your voice. I don't know how you'd go about getting it other than signing up for his list or just asking him.

    Another thing. Despite the issues you had with this client you're a better writer than someone who feels he needs to sell massive amounts of work for small money in the back alleys of the Internet. Get the hell off fiverr and those other bargain basement sites and start charging what your worth. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author KEKilpatrick
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post


      What I'm talking about is finding your voice. Paul Myers has an excellent report on finding your voice. I don't know how you'd go about getting it other than signing up for his list or just asking him.
      I figured that Paul would chime in here, this seems to be right up his alley... I would echo travlinguy's suggestion above. Get a copy of Paul's report and get on his list, he sends out some really good information but doesn't fill up your box like some do.

      Refine your style and up your price. Writing can be very rewarding (and lucrative), just don't undervalue your work or your clients will too.

      Good luck!

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  • Profile picture of the author hostwindsEvanM
    Agreed with Kristabelle. I cant believe people do any writing like this for $5, that is such low compensation. Regardless of a few mistakes, 5 bucks is basically a coffee - she should be pretty darn happy.
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  • Profile picture of the author nasuryono
    Sorry to hear about this. In any industry, not just service, you are always at risk to get a bad customer.

    I think this is the case with you. I usually filter out my customer by sending her a sample of my work before doing the full job. If the customer is happy with the sample that I sent her, I would start the work.

    If not, then I will just move on. Don't be too harsh on yourself, move on and keep learning
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  • Profile picture of the author Challendge
    it could just be a cheap customer. I didn't read the articles and I just assuming this based on your sentence structure in your post. Although it could use some work, you are still better than the majority.

    I would still take this opportunity to brush up on your skills and read about grammar, sentence structure and overall writing tips to improve your game so that you never hear that again.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Warriors
    It could be that she's trying to cheat you for free work?

    Your writing seems adequate for $5 an hour assignments.

    Maybe this is yet another reason NOT to earn your income writing articles for internet marketers online???
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    • Profile picture of the author PCH
      If I can add something in a way that doesn't offend anyone, or lessen the value of their comments, the fact that one person in 2,500 has complained means that 2,499 were happy.

      Regardless of the content, whether or not it was essay-like, well written, not so well written, or whatever, - virtually everyone was happy with their articles. And that's ALL that matters.

      Now if you want to go a bit more up-market as some have suggested, - well that's a different story again. Imagine doubling your price to $10. You could then afford to only attract half the numbr of clients and still earn the same. How good would that be?

      All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by Andy Button View Post

      It could be that she's trying to cheat you for free work?
      Definitely something to consider. There is a workaround for this though. You've heard what is wrong with those specific articles, clean them up. Then sell them as PLR. If the client wants to still use the content, they're going to use it at a lower value. As a writer who wasn't paid for what was adequate work at $5 an article, you have the right to turn the tables.

      At least that's my opinion on the issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anoopchawla
    Don't worry mate, you are good. Facing rejection is a part of every business, some people will like your service others won't. Don't let it become a big deal.

    I understand harsh criticism can turn you off at times, but during these tough times remember your past successes and be grateful for the.
    There are so many people here who aspire to write for living, but few of them can. Your numbers are impressive, you have written 2500 articles. Don't let small things bother you.

    To your success
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  • Profile picture of the author casablancas
    1 negative feedback out of 20,000 is a pretty amazing ratio if it's true.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      If this is all of the negative feedback you have received from 2,500 articles then be happy about that. You just got a customer that wants high quality articles for only $5. If she wants that she needs to go somewhere besides Fiverr to get it.
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  • I for one have the same experience as yours when there are clients who out of the blue complain for the work delivered to them. It is part of the game. You are in the writing business. You should be tough in facing criticisms whether they maybe constructive or destructive. One thing is for sure, you can not please everybody. Even if you are the best writer in the world there will always be people who may not like your writing style.

    I know such complain make you feel so low that you want to scream and shout for anger why on earth of all the clients you have, there is this one person who even bother to complain when 100% all the time you get praises. Well, this is the harsh reality. It is just you have experienced one of those days wherein you fail to deliver what the client expected under her own standards.

    Just move forward. There will be other clients who will complain. This does not mean that it would be the end of the world and you stop writing. Make it as a stepping stone to improve your writing skills and learn more about how to write on a specific niche, and the terminologies use, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    You've already received a lot of good advice so I won't repeat what others have said.

    One minor thing I notice in your articles is the frequent use of "very" and "really". I only notice this because it's one of the things I have to watch in my own writing. I find my articles read better if I go back and edit those words out as much as possible.

    Rose
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Curtis
    You wanted to know what is wrong with your writing. Here are some quotes from one of your articles to give you some ideas:

    Las Olas Isles, commonly referred to as ‘The Venice of America’ is a single family housing community dominated by some of the most beautiful Fort Lauderdale Waterfront homes.
    In this sentence you have a non-essential phrase, "commonly referred to as ‘The Venice of America’". Such phrases should be set off with quotes before and after. You have only the opening quote.


    The majority of the development that you see today occurred in the 1980’s when everybody was ordered to tear down their own home in order to start afresh with much better looking properties and ones that were much more expensive than the land it rested on.
    This statement is actually not true. Everybody was not ordered to tear down their home, as can be easily seen when you look at listings for that area. Many of the homes for sale were built in the 1940s. But in any event, if homes were ordered to be torn down, this is such an unusual occurrence that it requires explanation.


    The majority of the homes in this area are designed in a Mediterranean-Style although there are plenty of more unique properties that were originally designed to the former owner’s specifications.
    The phrase "plenty of more" is clumsy. You could say "more," or you could say "plenty of," or you could say "many" which is probably a better choice. Further, you have two ideas in this sentence, Mediterranean-Style versus unique properties, which would be better separated.


    The homes in this area retail from somewhere between $900,000 and $10,000,000 which does make them some of the more expensive Florida Waterfront Homes, but with what you are getting for your money it is no surprise that they are priced this high.
    Again you are mixing things which really don't belong together. A property which sells for $900,000 is not in the same category as a house that sells for $10,000,000.

    You say, "...but with what you are getting for your money it is no surprise that they are priced this high." Language can be used more efficiently. For instance you could say: "These homes provide exceptional value."


    fantastic shopping opportunities
    fantastic country club
    fantastic entertainment district
    This gets a bit repetitive. Further, these sorts of superlatives (fantastic, wonderful, awesome) are so overused that they really don't communicate any information, so should generally be left out of your writing.


    both generally regarded as some of the best places to join for those that own Fort Lauderdale homes.
    This is quite wordy. The phrase "both generally regarded as some of the best places to join" could probably be expressed more simply as "favorites."
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  • Profile picture of the author edd666666
    A lot of fivver people are not going to like this, but she may be right. Without looking at your post, I wonder what kind of service you promised on your fivver ad. Did you say it was great, etc, then she has to expect it to be great. I bet you didn't say "I will give you $5 worth and that's it", so did you over promise a bit? I use fivver and if someone says it is the best, I expect the best or it is off to refund city I go. Yes, I am a hard guy, but I did not make the promise.
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    • Profile picture of the author Formal Shorts
      Originally Posted by edd666666 View Post

      A lot of fivver people are not going to like this, but she may be right. Without looking at your post, I wonder what kind of service you promised on your fivver ad. Did you say it was great, etc, then she has to expect it to be great. I bet you didn't say "I will give you $5 worth and that's it", so did you over promise a bit? I use fivver and if someone says it is the best, I expect the best or it is off to refund city I go. Yes, I am a hard guy, but I did not make the promise.
      That's a helluva jump to make there mate.

      "I am a native English speaker with a passion for writing. I have run numerous writing gigs in the past on fiverr and have been completely overwhelmed by the feedback I have received. For just $5 you will receive well researched and unique articles to use for whatever you please. All will pass copyscape. These are not spun or rewrites."

      "I have been completely overwhelmed by the feedback" - 100% rating - 259 positive reviews - 1 negative review - check

      "Well researched and unique articles" - articles are unique and the feedback has nothing to do with the research - check

      "All will pass copyscape" - check

      "These are not spun or rewrites" - check


      It doesn't help anyone to make presumptions. If you demand the best from your writers, perhaps you might use that knowledge to contribute some helpful feedback to Ryan?
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  • Profile picture of the author eslucky
    Well, I'm glad I happened to notice this and recognized the name RyanGillam. I have purchased several articles from you on Fiverr and I was always pleased. I also told my daughter about you and she purchased articles for our business also.

    You have done a great job on the articles you wrote for us Ryan. All content that we buy is run by our editor and changes are usually made. This has been true for years and even back when our purchase price for articles was much higher. Sites like Fiverr have made it possible for us to purchase more articles from skilled writers at a very low price.

    For her to get the articles at that price she should have known that they have not been edited. It is common sense. You have not over promised on your Fiverr gig. If anything you have over performed.

    Don't let this one person discourage you. Keep writing. You are skilled and I think you must enjoy writing. We all have room for improvement...always! You will get better and better. Taking a class in writing can benefit just about anyone.
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    • Profile picture of the author RyanGillam
      Originally Posted by eslucky View Post

      Well, I'm glad I happened to notice this and recognized the name RyanGillam. I have purchased several articles from you on Fiverr and I was always pleased. I also told my daughter about you and she purchased articles for our business also.

      You have done a great job on the articles you wrote for us Ryan. All content that we buy is run by our editor and changes are usually made. This has been true for years and even back when our purchase price for articles was much higher. Sites like Fiverr have made it possible for us to purchase more articles from skilled writers at a very low price.

      For her to get the articles at that price she should have known that they have not been edited. It is common sense. You have not over promised on your Fiverr gig. If anything you have over performed.

      Don't let this one person discourage you. Keep writing. You are skilled and I think you must enjoy writing. We all have room for improvement...always! You will get better and better. Taking a class in writing can benefit just about anyone.
      Hey!

      Thanks (that reminds me I am overdue on an article for you!)

      Thank You for every comment here really! (apart from the last one, that seems a little off!)
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    • Profile picture of the author drmani
      Originally Posted by eslucky View Post

      Well, I'm glad I happened to notice this and recognized the name RyanGillam. I have purchased several articles from you on Fiverr and I was always pleased. I also told my daughter about you and she purchased articles for our business also.

      ...You have not over promised on your Fiverr gig. If anything you have over performed.
      There you go! Elizabeth's one of your "true fans". You only need 1,000 more (what's
      that? see this)

      If you haven't, also read Seth Godin's manifesto here:

      How to Sell a Book (or Any New Idea) (step 1 is the hard part)

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      • Profile picture of the author drmani
        A few general thoughts/comments:

        You can learn about writing from 3 different kinds of people
        (other than total ignoramuses, of course!)...

        * those who are very good writers
        * those who make good money from one kind of writing
        * those who have tried many different approaches to writing
        and are making money from every one of those

        What you'll learn from each group is significantly different.

        One or the other may suit YOUR needs and tastes and preferences.

        Just being aware that each of these groups exists, and then
        weighing their advise against that knowledge, will help you
        get the most from the almost-daily discussions that take
        place on the topic of writing for money on this forum.

        Personally, I've written fiction and non-fiction, ebooks,
        special reports, articles, blog content, and a few more
        different formats and styles - both for myself and for a
        very small group of clients.

        My perspective about writing for hire is influenced by those
        experiences.

        Others will differ.

        The mix is what makes this discussion forum so unique and
        interesting

        All success
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        • Profile picture of the author WishfulDoing
          Ryan, I read two of the three articles and I think they are very good for $5.00 each. In fact, I think you should charge twice that, if not more.

          I think this client has a lot of nerve to complain to Fiverr without giving you a chance to change or improve the articles. Aside from a few punctuation issues, there is nothing terribly wrong with them. If they wanted a more sophisticated writing style then they should not be using Fivrr.

          The fact that you have written 2500 articles so far without complaint tells you that you are a good writer. With that said, there is room for some improvement. Take some of the advice given here and you can really start improving your income as a writer.

          Best of luck to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrElectric
    I still haven't figured out why people think that an article that probably took at least half an hour to write, is only worth $5, much less why anyone in their right mind would complain of such work not being perfect. Add in the time it took discussing matters with the client, editing, etc., and my God, really?

    Even if you wouldve received the $15, is it really worth 1.5 hours of your time, especially vacation time? Personally I think you should raise your prices so your more likely to encounter clients that aren't "cheap", and appreciate the time and mental energy one puts into writing these articles. But that's just me.....
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  • Profile picture of the author kyannas26
    Don't doubt your gift because of one negative response!! Turn it into motivation to keep writing and improving. We all are a work in progress.
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  • Profile picture of the author Blade Runner 77
    Originally Posted by RyanGillam View Post

    I have been writing for around 3 months properly and thus I am still very new to this. I have written over 2,500 articles between fiverr and other websites as well as companies I have approached myself in the local area. However yesterday I got my first complaint and it left me quite sad as before every was bleating on about how good I was etc.

    This order came through fiverr and she was paying $15 for 24 hour delivery, which is fine. She left a long list of instructions which I followed. I sent the order, she then said



    Fiverr ended up giving her an automatic refund for this $15. The worst thing is, I am on vacation right now and took 1.5 hours out of my time to write for her (she knew this). I keep reading and I cannot see what is possibly wrong with them, especially not so wrong that they aren't worth $5 a pop.

    I am not confident in my abilities as it is, this just totally threw my confidence.

    Hi,
    Welcome to life, where, even Madonna has said if she's performing in front of 400,000 screaming fans and she overhears one person in the front row say 'how lame this ', she will obsess over it for days.
    Life is like this; some people only talk in destructive words, some people use them deliberately for self entertainment, some people use them as part of their daily text but don't listen to what effect they might have.
    Whether its deliberately cruel or not, these things are always a good hint to ask 'how can I lift the standard of what I do?'.
    Writing is an art form, as such the main backbone if you like every writer should be asking is this, 'am I communicating what I wanted to, as efficiently and effectively as I intended?'

    Its up to you if you want to write PHD type articles.

    here's a hint; go to one of the article sites, I use textbroker.com and look at the section where a buyer can see the quality of writing they will get for each price point, its very interesting. To see the examples laid out like this is very clear where your own writing is at, or can aspire to be at if you want to earn the higher money.

    I read scripts in hollywood for years, and about 1/2 of the 50,000 that come per annum look like the author never went to school, all of a sudden my efforts looked credible because I really tried to be as good as the best, where as a lot of folks just plain don't try.
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  • Profile picture of the author Juan Jose
    There's nothing wrong with your writing. The problem is, some people out there just walk into your road with negative and destructive attitudes that could harm your feelings. Try to learn from here hard words and keep going, getting success, and if someone else comes with this kind of attitude, just ignorite.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamk
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    My writer had the same issue too. She was ripped off 2 times before she told me. The best way to do it is to cancel such large order as soon as you get them. No point working with someone who wants heaven for 5$ and not to mention has a negative mentality.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by williamk View Post

      The best way to do it is to cancel such large order as soon as you get them.
      Wait...what? Never take a bulk order? Ever? Is that what you're saying here? Am I really asking a drive by poster? What a way to start the day :rolleyes:.
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  • I suggest that you read a book on copywriting. It will teach you how to write in a way that is more visual and enticing.

    All in all your work is fine though. It would be above what I would expect if I hired someone to write for 5$.
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  • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
    Sometimes the people you can work with on fiverr can be less than impressive, I know the type. I would recommend trying to get 1-2 long term clients, that want a few articles a week, check out warriors for hire section.
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    • Profile picture of the author RyanGillam
      Originally Posted by TomBuck View Post

      Sometimes the people you can work with on fiverr can be less than impressive, I know the type. I would recommend trying to get 1-2 long term clients, that want a few articles a week, check out warriors for hire section.
      Thankfully I have a number of long term clients and going for Warriors for Hire pretty soon.

      Many thanks for the feedback! A lot has been helpful
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  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
    Tell her you will give her a free article and in the PDF send the word B**CH.

    lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author boutiquecontent
    Read through the article on Las Olas Isles and for the money it's fine. You say the client asked for 'formal and sophisticated'. I think you managed the former but sophistication takes research and rewriting both of which require time. And she wasn't really paying you for that time.

    If I'd gone onto fiverr looking for someone to write to such a brief, I would have expected to do some polishing work on it myself. The fiverr fee would have covered research and laying down an outline; the sophistication I'd have to add.

    In a nutshell, I think the client was either greedy or had unrealistic expectations. Make sure you retain the copyright on the article. You may be able to use it elsewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author rehomenetwork
    I think your witing is very good. I don't think they should of refunded her money for the articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author CurtisSWN
    Seemed perfectly fine to me. I'm a writer. I thought maybe they could have been slightly more keyword optimized. Writing is a quantity, not quality, business. If you're making money, then you're doing it right.
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