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Are you a Spammer?

by enterscope
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Spamming = Publishing content with little to no informational value in order to solicit buyers and sales.

Unfortunately, a lot of us are guilty of spamming yet wonder why our website's lose rankings with each Google update.

The reason is the quality of the content and the uniqueness of what is submitted. If your article is a blatant advertisement then no one is going to share it and Google won't notice it.
#spammer
  • Profile picture of the author NiallR
    What's worse is that the same people spamming the search engines are the first ones to complain about a new Google update.

    The irony is that their web content and backlinks are the exact reason Google had to release the update in the first place.

    Don't pee in the pool and then complain when the pool staff kick you out :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Damien Kring
    Originally Posted by enterscope View Post

    The reason is the quality of the content and the uniqueness of what is submitted. If your article is a blatant advertisement then no one is going to share it and Google won't notice it.
    Agreed. I think in the coming years we're going to see more and more importance placed on quality of content vs. quantity of content - and not just from the big G, either. The affiliate marketing scene has been on rocky ground in recent months (although by no means is it going away), which I believe is prompting publishers to realize that in order to remain competitive, they're going to have to start connecting with people, not just algorithms.
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    • Profile picture of the author Thaddaeus T. Hogg
      Don't pee in the pool and then complain when the pool staff kick you out :-)
      Why, any folks with any common sense knows enough to get out of the pool and pee on the cement! I guess some folks was raised in a barn!
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      • Profile picture of the author VanessaB
        Originally Posted by Thaddaeus T. Hogg View Post

        Why, any folks with any common sense knows enough to get out of the pool and pee on the cement! I guess some folks was raised in a barn!
        Yes. Proud spammer. Today, I called my local newspaper, and placed a 3 line ad in the classified section to rent out a house.

        It didn't have much information at all and it's probably only useful to, ummm.. people who want to rent a house? I think so anyway...

        I suppose the phone number to call to rent the house was useful, but it didn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me to write like a hundred 'quality' articles on the benefits of renting a house, and ways to rent a house, and tips to rent a house, and all that blah, blah blah.... in the HOPES that someone, somewhere, (either local or at least looking to be local, cause it would not be very cost effective to pick up a whole house and move it just for the $50 a month cashflow from the rent...) might find that article and come to the decision that they needed to rent a house.

        So, yep, I used 'advertising,' so I guess I'm a spammer.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by DanielleS View Post

          Yes. Proud spammer. Today, I called my local newspaper, and placed a 3 line ad in the classified section to rent out a house.

          It didn't have much information at all and it's probably only useful to, ummm.. people who want to rent a house? I think so anyway...

          I suppose the phone number to call to rent the house was useful, but it didn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me to write like a hundred 'quality' articles on the benefits of renting a house, and ways to rent a house, and tips to rent a house, and all that blah, blah blah.... in the HOPES that someone, somewhere, (either local or at least looking to be local, cause it would not be very cost effective to pick up a whole house and move it just for the $50 a month cashflow from the rent...) might find that article and come to the decision that they needed to rent a house.

          So, yep, I used 'advertising,' so I guess I'm a spammer.
          Are you really a spammer? Maybe.

          Answer me this...

          Did you put that 'house for rent' ad under "Houses for Rent"?

          Not a spammer.

          Did you put that ad under "Cars for Sale"?

          Yup, spammer you be.

          Same thing applies online. Put your sales message for widgets where people expect to find sales messages for widgets, and you have at the least the beginnings of 'quality content'. Put that same message where people expect to learn something useful about widgets, and you have online spam.
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      • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
        Originally Posted by Thaddaeus T. Hogg View Post

        Why, any folks with any common sense knows enough to get out of the pool and pee on the cement! I guess some folks was raised in a barn!
        You talkin' bout the "Cee-ment Pond"?
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    No not a spammer. I hate spamming. I strive to provide value no matter where I am online.
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  • Profile picture of the author pennyroll
    I try very hard not to be a spammer. I don't think I am a spammer if the definition of a spammer is little informational content in order to solicit customers. I always try to provide the best content I can, because, it reflects on me. We were just talking about this the other day in regard to pintrest.

    I am guilty of over analyzing a definition, you should have seen me when I learned about open-source and creative commons several years ago. The issue with that was, if wikipedia is creative commons, and someone takes copyright material and drops it on Wikipedia, and then another comes along and uses it as creative commons, then what?

    I was not sure exactly what the definition of a spammer was. If it is a person who wants to create quality content and push it in every way possible then I guess that's me. But, then hopefully we are all guilty of that.

    Thanks for the question.
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    • Profile picture of the author VanessaB
      John, nope, but I do often place the 'house for rent' ads in the 'house for sale ads' and house for sale ads in the 'houses for rent ads.'

      Not all 'advertising' is SPAM. Just sayin...
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  • Profile picture of the author The Biz Guy
    Yeah, that's one of the most annoying people in internet, spammer. When the Google did Penguin Update, I heard lots of people get their website ranking down. Most of them are spammer but some are real people who contribute value to the Internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
    Originally Posted by enterscope View Post

    Spamming = Publishing content with little to no informational value in order to solicit buyers and sales.
    Ummm....no. Definition of "spam":

    spam (spm)
    n.
    Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail.
    tr.v. spammed, spam·ming, spams
    1. To send unsolicited e-mail to.
    2. To send (a message) indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups.
    Publishing content with little- to no value is the online version of visiting an average car lot. You know the salesman is just there to fill you fill of BS in a (sometimes) vain attempt to find the hook that makes you want to buy, but you go anyways.

    Having said that, I prefer to provide much higher quality material than what's found on most sites because I'm writing for the people who are actually reading my site, not for the search engines. If it's something that I'd hate for my sister to stumble across when doing research, I won't publish it to any of my sites.

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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    I try to help my viewers. Also, to not be a spammer. Sadly, I do not put a lot of links in this forum for fear of being labeled as one. That said, this forum helps me. It has a lot of valuable information, but people fear they will see their post labeled as some spam. Problem is that real spammers post a lot of links and that is their tell tale sign.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by DanielleS View Post

      John, nope, but I do often place the 'house for rent' ads in the 'house for sale ads' and house for sale ads in the 'houses for rent ads.'

      Not all 'advertising' is SPAM. Just sayin...
      Nope. I never said it was.

      Even putting ads 'house for rent' ads under 'House for Sale' is close. You're still putting information in front of people who want to know about available houses.

      In addition, everyone knows that the 'content' in the Classified Advertising section of the paper are, well, advertising.

      No problem, everyone knows the score.

      Now, if the paper were to take your classified ad, pad it a bit, maybe throw in a picture or two, and put it in the Real Estate section of the Sunday paper labeled as a "review", we have a whole new animal, don't we? Especially if you offered the paper a commission for finding you a tenant...

      Just sayin...
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  • Profile picture of the author Anonymous Affiliate
    I guess it depends on how we define "spam". If we define spam as the act of bombing your mailing list with crapping Clickbank affiliate offers day in and day out without actually providing any true valuable insight at all... well then I guess 99% of IMers are spammers.
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