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Where does everyone go to get articles rewritten? I've found some excellent writers but not investigated rewriting much yet.

Is anyone doing a good WSO?
Does anyone have any recommendations?

Cheers,

Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author David Raybould
    Hi Andy,

    It depends on what you want the re-writes for...

    If it's for search engine friendly content that's probably not going to be read by humans, a good article spinner can save you a fortune.

    There does seem to be a constant article writers price war going on here though, so I guess you can get some great deals for manual writers too...

    Hope that helps

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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    Does anyone have a good recommendation for an article spinner?

    I definitely need human readable content as well but maybe some article spinning too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mac the Knife
    Andy, have the excellent writers you have found denied your request for article rewrites? Most writers do them...hit the Warriors for Hire section...all the writers there have paid money to advertise their skills and many would be glad to take on the assignments!

    Mac
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    • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
      Originally Posted by Macurdy View Post

      Andy, have the excellent writers you have found denied your request for article rewrites? Most writers do them...hit the Warriors for Hire section...all the writers there have paid money to advertise their skills and many would be glad to take on the assignments!

      Mac
      Yeah. I was surprised but the people I've used for article writing aren't interested in rewriting stuff.

      I really should've thought of the Warrior for hire section myself.

      Cheers,

      Andy
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      • Profile picture of the author scotland74
        I'm a professional journalist and would be happy to help rewrite stuff for you. leave me your email address and I'll help you out.
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          • Profile picture of the author Anomaly1974
            Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

            I'm surprised that people won't do re-writing for you. It's easier than having to do the research,

            Tina G
            And therein lies the problem. As a writer, (and I have been called a "Purist" here on the WF) it is my job to provide you with factual and informative writing in whatever style you want. However, if you ask me to "trust" what someone else has written, how do I know that I am providing you with information that is actually going to help your readers?

            I still see people writing articles about SEO tactics that ceased to be effective when animated gifs and midi files were all the rage for web pages. I see articles posted about how you can give up food entirely and live on sunshine and water but that does not mean that it will be helpful to your readers.

            When your readers suffer, they put it back on you and who do you roll that back on?

            I am not willing or able to "trust" somebody else's work as factual and informative and ... wikipedia is NOT a fact checking resource. For some of us, it may be a certain level of vanity but it is also about making sure that our products (writing) actually do help the end user. If you want something that is truly effective (And I just posted this in another board so forgive my redundancy please) try writing numerous articles with the same long-tailed keywords and you will see results on the SERP, become an "authority" figure in your niche and actually help your readers, building up their confidence and trust in you throughout the process.

            I understand it is very common nowadays and I know that article pricing is so low as to make it impossible for many of us to make a living but I would personally rather keep my personal ethics intact and not worry so much about pleasing the masses.

            I hope you will forgive me if I sounded rude or offensive, but it is something that I feel strongly about and it was not meant as a personal attack on anyone or their tactics. However, just because a lot of people do something, does not make it right. Remember the lemmings. Jumping off the cliff may seem right to them but that does not help them much for the future does it?

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  • Profile picture of the author David Raybould
    Andy...

    Check out jetsubmitter...

    It's a paid membership, but the free version gets access to their article spinner. It works online, but it's pretty effective.

    Hope that helps buddy

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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
    I just wanted to point out that you can have quality and
    spun articles if you do it right, and you use the right tools.

    Glenn
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    • Profile picture of the author JonathanBoettcher
      Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

      I just wanted to point out that you can have quality and
      spun articles if you do it right, and you use the right tools.

      Glenn
      So you don't end up with nasty looking articles afterwards? I've seen some of the things that come out of spinners and they can be kind of ugly... I actually want my articles to get read...
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by JonathanBoettcher View Post

        So you don't end up with nasty looking articles afterwards? I've seen some of the things that come out of spinners and they can be kind of ugly... I actually want my articles to get read...
        Jonathan,
        You have used the old tools not the new technology tools of today that are fully human controlled...

        Yes I can use my own system to produce articles that are fully readable and I can make the uniqueness as high as I want because I control the outcome.. I have produced 50 articles spun, with a uniqueness of 70+%, and be fully readable in less than 2 hours..

        As Glenn pointed out, it depends upon the tools you use.. We are not talking about jetspinner either..

        James
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      • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
        Originally Posted by JonathanBoettcher View Post

        So you don't end up with nasty looking articles afterwards? I've seen some of the things that come out of spinners and they can be kind of ugly... I actually want my articles to get read...
        As James has pointed out, things have moved on somewhat in the past
        few years. You can get great articles using the right tools, and using
        them properly. There are no shortcuts here, in spite of what you might
        read, human brain power still needs to be employed.

        Gklenn
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  • Profile picture of the author multimastery
    Yeah I'm very surprised as well that people don't want to do rewriting for you. That seems like it would be an easier task that writing from scratch. I might be able to work with you. You can PM me if you'd like, let me see what you got, and we can take it from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
    You could just paraphrase each sentence and rewrite it that way.
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    • Profile picture of the author sylviad
      I can understand why some writers wouldn't want to do rewrites. Sometimes, those are more work than starting from scratch. One of my clients wanted me to rewrite her articles using the same information. I was not allowed to add anything new and that's what makes it difficult, especially if they want articles that are different from the original.

      You might get better help if you specify that if they know the topic or are interested in doing a bit of extra research they can add something new to the articles. That works out better for you in the long run because the articles will be original... no fear of your articles being rejected for being too similar to other articles.

      But I'm curious to know why it's so important that they do rewrites. Are you expecting to pay less for rewrites than for an original article? Otherwise, there's little difference. Is there?

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  • Profile picture of the author tess47
    I am a ghostwriter myself, and I would MUCH rather write an article from scratch than do a re-write. Of the few requests for re-writes I have had, the people who had written them to begin with wanted very specific changes made, such as reference links added (that they didn't provide), more research on particular areas, etc.

    Since most people expect to pay about half of the normal price to get an article re-written, I find it isn't worth my time. I would rather be writing a full article for a client if I have to do alot of extra work. Just my opinion
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  • Profile picture of the author alyoung
    Article rewriting can be very useful but you have to make sure the original is of good quality or you will be spinning off more junk. Or you will have to fix the original first and you would be better off writing it from scratch.
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  • Profile picture of the author RebeccaL
    I offer rewriting as part of my services, that is complete rewrites and not spinning or swapping paragraphs/words around - something that you need to look for when ordering rewrites from anywhere. find out if they are using software or are hand writing them just using the original as a guide.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by RebeccaL View Post

      I offer rewriting as part of my services, that is complete rewrites and not spinning or swapping paragraphs/words around - something that you need to look for when ordering rewrites from anywhere. find out if they are using software or are hand writing them just using the original as a guide.
      Rebecca,
      This is mine and Glenn's exact point on it matter what tools you use. Just because an article is spun does not mean it is bad. I have posted and proved that on this forum over and over as I know Glenn has also.

      My system has nothing to do with this {text1|text2|text3} crap, it has nothing to do with a pre-defined database of dumb alternative words either. It is fully human controlled, in other words everything written is written by the author himself/herself... No machine, no pre-set database, no swapping paragraphs, and etc...

      Within my system I fully control what I write, I fully control what is spun, what is not spun, if I decide to spin anything at all.. I have a full blown website that gives many tools and many options..

      Glenn also has a product which is very similar, the point is it matters what tools you use. This is not 1995, this is 2009 and many brand new technologies and tools have been created that will properly help you spin articles...

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel Lee
    Sometimes it is better to do a rewrite by yourself, by paraphrasing and altering the structure of existing articles to get to a good starting point. I find its always easier to establish the basic elements first by laying down a basic structure, heading, intro, paras1-4, conclusion. Then rearranging the content and sentences to fit and rewrite from scratch. With regularity is becomes much easier and quicker! The forum has great sources in the warriors for hire section as well, well worth checking out! Hope this assists!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    Wow. Thanks for all the great replies guys and girls. I've had several people approach me about doing this rewrite work (and approached a couple myself from Warriors for Hire). I'll also have to look into article spinning etc.

    As a word of advice for anyone thinking about contacting someone. Please make sure your PM is spell checked No one is going to hire you to write for them if you can't do this most basic task.

    Cheers,

    Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
    I have ahd writers refuse to rewrite PLR articles for me because the original was so poor it was quicker for him to write them from scratch using the same keywords
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    • Profile picture of the author RebeccaL
      Originally Posted by SpudDS View Post

      I have ahd writers refuse to rewrite PLR articles for me because the original was so poor it was quicker for him to write them from scratch using the same keywords
      I can relate to that - some articles are shockingly terrible!

      James: I have no idea what your system is, I was speaking about article spinners in general of which we all know there are some very bad ones out there just spitting out rubbish that people try to pass off as real content.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by RebeccaL View Post

        I can relate to that - some articles are shockingly terrible!

        James: I have no idea what your system is, I was speaking about article spinners in general of which we all know there are some very bad ones out there just spitting out rubbish that people try to pass off as real content.
        Hi Rebecca,
        My system has a spinner (human controlled) but that is by far the least of the powerful tools my site offers. Yes I agree many are useless and do nothing but put out garbage like jetspinner and power article writer..

        You get real content from a spinner when it is human controlled. I have a free WSO posted that gives the truth about spinners if someone cares to download the report go to my profile and view all threads created by me... You will also be offered a special trial for my website.

        What gets me is so many (not you, but many others) are quick to judge without even trying everything out there first. I have tried many and built my own so I can speak from actual usage of spinners.

        I can agree with much of what you posted on your post in this thread..

        James
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    I don't understand why people still assume that spun articles equals keyword stuffed gibberish that humans can't read. Come on guys, it's not 1999.

    If you have money, consider paying someone to write them for you, although this is still prone to trial and error. If you don't want to be paying out a constant stream of money, then consider a decent article creation tool / spinner. If set them up properly, you can produce really good articles, which are highly unique.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinsonYeung
    U might want to take a look at wordpress 2.0, do a search in the warrior WSO, i saw it somewhere few day ago
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  • Profile picture of the author John Atkins
    Unique articles are always much better than re-writes. A Re-write can be good because it can be done faster and requires less work.
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    With a good re writer you can add 3-4 sentence variations and change some synonyms within those sentences and get some great results. I like and have used power article rewriter and article appas. Jetspinner as well and is free
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  • Profile picture of the author devil2000
    Hi
    I have lot of experience in article spinning
    I m interested to do it for you
    I m not using any softwares(only hand written)

    Give me a sample and verify it
    mail id:varadharajan_ice@yahoo.com

    thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
    I can see this thread running and running...
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    Yes, running and running..... And tomorrow, they'll be another thread that asks ' which spinner?' Or 'does spinning work?' Etc. I find it comical that people can't spend a few seconds using the search function.

    Question for James and Glenn. Do you have any videos which show your systems in use? Mine works in a particular way... Just thought it would be interesting to see what your articles systems are about.

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      • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
        Originally Posted by Iamkassi View Post

        I found a guy on another forum for $1.50 a re-write, I turn it around to AC and get $3 per article. Spend $20 a day, make $20 a day profit. By the way..power article re-writer is the best, i have a promotional link to get it for $37, pm me if your interested.
        That's a clever way of making money Kassi. I wasn't aware that AC pays that much now. I've never used them to be honest.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by AndyBlackSEO View Post

      Yes, running and running..... And tomorrow, they'll be another thread that asks ' which spinner?' Or 'does spinning work?' Etc. I find it comical that people can't spend a few seconds using the search function.

      Question for James and Glenn. Do you have any videos which show your systems in use? Mine works in a particular way... Just thought it would be interesting to see what your articles systems are about.

      Andy
      Andy I have one on my sales page but a spinner is only a small part of my website.. As stated in another thread my site is built to help those build a business not just spin articles. Spun articles can be combined with creation mode with allows pdf output, post traditional article to the article directory, post an articles sales page with opt-in and paypal buttons if you wish.

      There is a video on the major tools on the sales page.

      James
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by AndyBlackSEO View Post

      Yes, running and running..... And tomorrow, they'll be another thread that asks ' which spinner?' Or 'does spinning work?' Etc. I find it comical that people can't spend a few seconds using the search function.

      Question for James and Glenn. Do you have any videos which show your systems in use? Mine works in a particular way... Just thought it would be interesting to see what your articles systems are about.

      Andy

      Hi Andy,

      Yes, I do have a demo video showing my system in action. It needs
      reworking becasue it was put together for somebody at short notice.

      Glenn
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  • Profile picture of the author webhosting134
    I agree, choosing a right tool for your re-writeing job can save you huge amount of time!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
    anyone wants to see what an 'automatic' rewriter can do nowadays, PM me some text and I'll show you, free.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    In case you did not realized, I have just release a new service where you can get PLR articles that are spin-ready. I mean 95% spinned with over 30% uniqueness.


    Check my signature for details.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shakul
    You can checkout my WSO (signatures).

    My software doesn't produce "perfect" outputs, but around 40 to 70% unique results and many times it is readable.

    Shakul
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi,

      Apart from the fact that this is just another needlessly bumped thread by another newish-to-the-forum anonymous poster amongst the many about spinners which have been needlessly bumped today (see my post #106 here) , the self-promotion of products and WSOs that follow on from the bump are way out of line in my opinion.

      The next time a discussion happens regarding self-promotional people who mess up the forum for everyone else, we'll know who the culprits are.

      Originally Posted by Joseph Then View Post

      In case you did not realized, I have just release a new service where you can get PLR articles that are spin-ready. I mean 95% spinned with over 30% uniqueness.


      Check my signature for details.
      Originally Posted by Shakul View Post

      You can checkout my WSO (signatures).

      My software doesn't produce "perfect" outputs, but around 40 to 70% unique results and many times it is readable.

      Shakul
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
    Thank you Roger, and even though it I have a vested interest in this topic running
    and running, I'm getting bored with these old threads getting revitalized with the
    same old questions that have been answered time after time, and by others who
    have decided to join the party late, and use these threads to overtly promote their
    products. Use the search function folks...

    If I had my way, posts that don't contribute the the topic in hand, should be deleted.
    Peeps who overtly promote their own products, should be given a warning. Three
    strokes, and you're out. I admit that I used to be guilty of this myself, so I'm not
    entirely guilt free.

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