How this website works? (Facts and thank you)

Thanks and good luck with the "bustards"

John

Pleeeeeease put some formatting in your post. Major Headaches.

Gets my vote for a sticky

Most products are from snake oil salesmen types, after doing this for 18+ years I can say with confidence, I know a solid product when I see it. I also am in the Forex world and they have much of the same bs going on. So far in other sections I have rarely and I mean rarely seen a good product. Not saying they don't exist but are the sheep really that hungry they will eat fake grass and call it super. So yes OP format your post and keep pressing forward!

I have some suggestions. The first is irrelevant but would be helpful.
1) Format your post, it looks like a lump of writing and most people are put off reading it.
Proper punctuation would be nice and some spacing. It's "*******s" not "bustards" so get that right.
2) It should work, everybody can post but you can't put links. If you put links then you can't post unless you have 15 links so I have a strong suspicion that you are putting links on your posts.
3) It seems to be working for everyone else.
4) I recommend you get a "spam email" so you can put all these sort of emails in there.
You could create a email folder "Junk" and put it in there. You could also block the sender so it doesn't work. It's not that hard- go to your email forum or look at the FAQ and stuff.
5) I would recommend NEVER signing up to this sort of stuff as they hardly EVER work
Hope this helped.
6) I think that is what you mean't. Don't listen to the so-called "reviews" as they never work. Some of them are faked. Only try and buy software which this forum and maybe others have recommended. If there are any doubts, never buy it , a bad program is often disguised to look amazing. I can't really do much else.

I think you need a new computer.

Yes maybe , but the internet marketing thing wasn't worked for me and I am very poor to purchase one , will you purchase one for me?

I am already have few pages , I am vendor in clickbank and I have one product , I have and blog which appears perfect and I use HostGator as host provider and my domains was purchased from namecheap.

My product page is this and there is the marketplace of clickbank.

w w w . commercial - center.com/cpanel-for-newbies

(remove spaces)

And I have and one blog in wordpress and I am promote commission commando from Sean Donahoe.

If anyone is interesting to see how my cpanel for newbies is and want to promote it , I can give the product for free , to see it inside , I am very honest and I am not push you to promote anything , in fact I would like to have and some testimonial or some friend from here see my product.
I can give you my product for free to see it to use it , even learn from it and if you beleive is worth to promote it , I will be very happy , I will give it to you free , I will give you the thank you page directly , you don't need to purchase so even if you don't like it , you don't need to make any refunds. I have 65% commission , I am not remember even if I have and 80% , I will need to log in to my oooooold clickbank account which is full of zeros and I don't have much interest to log in to.



The main website is not working yet , becuase is difficult to create my site as I want it to be and there is no money for designers , programmers etc.

I am programming a little , I saw there is programming section here in forums , but I am not programming for web design , I am programming for games.

I am programming with DarkBasic and PureBasic , I know and little C++ , but are useless for website creation.

I don't know html , or flash and I am making experiments in some php code in my wordpress blogs and sometimes I destroy my websites

Hello, that's quite the post!

I can see that you are very frustrated and I understand. Here's my advice to you:

1. Stop buying products.
2. Stop reading the emails in your Junk folder. (If an email look like crap, delete it. Life is too short to get upset over it.)
3. Take a couple of hours and unsubscribe from everyone who is sending you emails promoting their "crap." (This will make you feel really good).
4. If you want to buy a new course, check out the WSO's on this forum and read all the reviews first. Then you can decide if it's right for you.

I think what is happening is that you want to succeed so badly (and I understand, I do) that you buy one thing and before you can have a chance to implement it you buy another and another and of course nothing works. If you pick one thing and concentrate on that and only that you will have a greater chance at success.

I also think that if you have a website, you should consider having an editor proofread it for you.

I am wishing you all the best!

Could I ask one sily question?
What WSO is? or what this means?

Hmm yet another post

"sdingram" Thank you very very much for your advices , I have stopped reading any promotion e-mail I receive.

I remember on the second year I was received 4500 e-mails per day. Somewhere I had capture one screenshot of my e-mail , I was insane , I had opted in more than 1000 lists

Yeas I was very stupid in the first 2 years , in the 3rd , I just ate 6 months to unsubscribe from all of these 1000 lists , and I keep receiving e-mails from some of these old lists and the problem is , some of them not exist , and the removal links not working , but there is somewhere some old abandoned autoresponder and keeps sending me e-mails , sometimes I receive a circle of promotion e-mails , which means some autoresponders sent all messages in the autoresponse list and repeats the sending process again.

I am receiving e-mails from any kind of stranger , from chinese people marketers , from arabic marketers , from african marketers and from europian and america and australian marketers too.

I was opted in to all e-mail marketing lists of the planet.

Hehe , :p what stupid I am!!!

And everyday something new was appeared and was much better from the previous one and all of these people made so much money everyday and they adviced me , purchase , purchase all of these people care about me.

Everything was appeared to be sooo easy , and the kindness of these people was pour in my inbox.

Really , why this easy money is very hard to be made?

I was feeling so satiated , I was fly in the 7th sky and I beleive , in the next day I will made a looooooots of money.

Then I realized , the greediness of the human race , some people make a lots of money (the scammers one) and they want more.

And all of these scammers , take advantage of the innocent , naive newbies and they are selling hopes and dreams.

I learnt a lots in all of these 4 years , but I didn't leran how to make money :p , but yes , the conclusion is we all work for this money.

The money was betrayed Jesus.

There are a lots of good people here and they are make me good company and I like it.

Take a look at some of the good products that you have purchased over the years. Look at their sales pages too. What made you buy? Can you duplicate that process in another niche? If so, do it.

I do not suggest that you try to create and sell products in the IM niche. There are many other niches you can sell in, without claiming you are a guru, when you are not. If you do, you will be just like the "Bustards" you are complaining about.

Yes I am not planning to promote any kind of money making product , because none of them prove to be working and yes I don't want to become yet another "*******" I see you have offended a little.

If in the fuuuuuture I will become a successful marketer (IF) and if I will create my own unique way which I can prove to myself first, after years of success, might I will create my own product in money making niche.

And my product will expose everything and will be the best product.

So, so far I will try to promote other products , but even other products are overhyped too , for example one product I always received...

I wasn't received only money making products , but and other products.

One product I was receiving and I was tried to promote and was total waste of money , "Acne Treatment" product. How one e-book is able to cure your acne?

And another one product which I was received was "skin moles removal". How one e-book is able to remove your moles from your skin? , only doctor with surgery is able to remove your moles from your skin. Any kind of e-book and overhyped product , insults the intelligence of the patient.

Another one product I tried to promote and I was purchase was Sean Donahoes' , "Exreme Niche Empires" and I made a research and I had a website for whole year and I was promoted any kind dog training products there are in the clickbank.

I had created one huge blog , with themes , with plugins , I was paid for all of these , with amazon products , with extra SEO plugins this website contained 50 different clickbank dog training and dog care products , any kind of dog and cat world was in this website , I had ordered and a lots of unique articles for dog advices , treatment , how to make your dog not peeing or pooping in your living room.

The result , very few visitors , not a single sale , and I never found my website even in 145th page in google , I remember I was stayed 4 hours and I was pressed the next page in google results pages until to find where my website was. After a lots of unique articles , I paid for unique articles , I never used any kind of re-rotation or translation or any kind of foolling article creation all of my articles was genuine and unique , I had paid money for them , I never used any kind of PLRs , but the site never rank , very few visitors and wasn't a new website , was 12 months old website , with nice domain with nice theme , with nice articles , with all dog related clickbank products and matterial , with videoclips , I was promised from Sean Donahoe I will make sales and my website was authority website , conclusion , no sales , very few visitors , and I deleted the website ,because I was pay for the damain.

I made and another one website similar to dog related with acne , not with Sean Donahoes , because Sean Donahoe don't exist or I didn't discover him yet.

The top fail website I have ever made was a website which promoted the product , "Take your EX back" this product was one e-book product from clickbank which advice divorced couples or any kind of lovers to bring their ex-lover back and hook up again.

I was found one fantastic wordpress theme and with a lots of changes I was made one fantastic website (Blog).

Conclusion , after couple of months my website was full of viagra ads and commets , I rediculate to few visitors I had and I complain to my host service , this was before HostGator , I was at the HostMoster. They didn't find any way how to solve the problem and I sold my problem alone and I left from HostMonster and came to the HostGator.


And I was purchased the product from Jamie Lewis , "Copy the Blueprint" and another one which I am not remember now , it was my first product , everything was about how to use google adwords , I remember I was spent 500 Euros to promote one diet product "Fad Diet that Work" , I was spent 500 euros in adwords to make a sale of $49 and this sale was happen from one lady from Australia and was Christmass because this sale was happen , else no one will purchase anything.

I didn't have any kind of list and I still not have and this lady never gave me her e-mail , but when you make the purchase the e-mail appears in the clickbank sales history.

I never sent any thanksgiving e-mail to this lady which I am very proud to her who was the only one who purchased from me and I wish to her the best to lost her weigh.

She was the first and only one customer and shame on me , I never thank her. I never bother her with lists and autoresponder craps and fool her to purchase yet another diet , what is the point why does she purchase yet another diet? , if you send another e-mail to your customer and promote another product and you have already sold a diet , you are insult the intelligence of your customer and devalue and the product which you just sold.

How is it possible to promote another diet product to the same lady after 2 days , even she didn't start using the already purchased one?.

And then I am getting ungry and I say it again all of these "*******s" sell something and then send another e-mail to the same people to purchase yet another same product , what is the point to sell 9 different diet products to the same lady , is waste of money for your customer , and the point for marketer is to fool the customer and make money.

The fact is , no one cares about any customer , all they care how to sell products to same people and make money. Everyday all of these marketers (Hit their lists and send garbage to their trusted customers).

Is pointless for the same lady to take yet another diet and she doesn't used the one she purchased 1 day before but there is a point for marketer , the money (Marketers not cares ,they pretend they give a value , but there is not value , there is only MONEY).

Have a nice day.

You subscribed to 1,000 lists and then spent 6 months unsubscribing from them all?

Let this be a lesson to every newbie here that you should use a throw away "spam this all you want" email account to sign up for any list.

one very good method for any business [offline or online] is having a business plan before u start.
Stick to the plan,try to optimize by tweaking.
Treat it as learning process, a journey not a destination.

I tried to visit the site you displayed in an earlier post and got a warning that it was a dangerous site- just wanted to warn you in case it has been hacked or anything!

Take note of StevenM's post by the way- some really good advice there. Good luck with your business (I do understand your frustrations and can identify with some of the mistakes you have made) and let us know how you are doing.

Those was such a funny posts, Takis, i laugh really loud to all your stories (spending 4 hours to page 145 in Google waw). I am new to IM and can not give any advise on this subject but very far from any IM topic i tought like maybe it is about a control? It is like driving a car full of petrol, but speed is nothing without a control? Wish you success really and really amazed that people are so understanding and helpful.

What kind of answer was this? I didn't understand it (Seems to be very ironic) , I am not telling jokes here , I am very serious.
What is this Rule #1 of this forum?

The new marketers and newbies will not struggle from snake oil marketers.

If some day I will make this work , I will drop all snake oil marketers out and I will incorporate with good ones only.

All of these marketers will quit from their businesses , because they will not have customers, they will have all got exposed.

And already got exposed , I reached the mark of 15 , the party now begins , now I am able to reply and other posts and links.

Hehe the product review party just began.

So let me get this straight ok.

YOU are the one who screwed up at internet marketing yet the LAST person you seem to be blaming here is YOURSELF.

Instead what you DO is blame every other internet marketer in existence for YOUR FAILURE.

I call that a serious self defense mechanism at work. You are obviously the type of person who refuses to accept responsibility for your own mistakes. It took me about 5 minutes to realize I didn't want to sign up on anyones lists when I first came here.

I realized that would be an EXCELLENT way to WASTE MY TIME & MONEY.

Why?

Because there are some very basic things a person must master BEFORE they even think about getting involved in internet marketing.

Here is one thing noone has really brought up. I can BARELY understand every other word that you type. You obviously have a difficult time speaking fluent English. So I would be 1000xs more likely to suspect the reason you failed has NOTHING to do with "sharks" but with the fact that NOBODY CAN UNDERSTAND YOU.

Its not the spacing of your posts that need work is your POSTS that need work. The words, the grammar, the english, NOBODY would buy something from you because they can't understand wtf you are saying.

Lets be real.

Its not the "sharks" fault, its your fault for not having a clear conceptual lense to view your life through.

If I was you first thing I would think is "people seem to be having a problem understanding me or relating to me".

Second thing I would do is go get some English lessons. Or pick up a book and learn it yourself, there is software that can help you too.

If your marketing ventures read anything like your posts on WF, it should be glaringly obvious why you failed.

So lets see, what are your options now?

You can smarten up and learn how to communicate properly, then try again, or you can give up and go on some life long tirade about how people really aren't making money online. Which isn't going to accomplish ANYTHING other than WASTING YOUR PRECIOUS TIME to "help" people who DO NOT want your "help" in the first place.

We already have 1 saltydroid in this world who is fairly clear spoken, and if he couldn't do much about it you sure as hell won't have a chance.

Your post angered me not because you're implying 99% of marketers on here are scam artists (which is bs most are just newbies trying to get by), but BECAUSE you have no ability to BLAME YOURSELF for your life problems.

Accept the fact that YOU messed up and nobody else.

Develop a plan so that will never happen again. If you really think calling marketers out on a daily basis is going to help you in any way, you'll get very tired of reregistering accounts eventually I promise you that.

Most of all, is your time really so invaluable in the first place that you would actually WANT to do something like that? I mean just go get a job if you're that bitter about things. At least you'd accomplish something PRODUCTIVE with your time.

Aside from that you sound like another "aged newbie" whos been in internet marketing for "years" but still has not learned a single thing about marketing.

If you have really been in marketing for years, and THIS is how you communicate to people, you're still a marketing newbie afaic. Your past years trying to learn marketing probably went like this:

80% reading
15% complaining in your head why something won't work
5% taking action

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Fast forward a few years and this is your new protocol

100% complaining

Lets face it, you're still a major newbie.

I feel so sorry for the people who seem to have a serious problem understanding that THEY are the only problem with internet marketing.

You are DEFINITELY NOT changing other peoples behavoir I don't care how hard you try. The ONLY behavoir you can change in life is YOUR OWN.

So continue to bicker, continue to call people out, you're just wasting your life away. You're not learning anything valuable, you'll just continue to justify and validate your own failures in life.

If thats what you want to do, and it puts a smile on your face, more power to you.

But I don't have the time for it. Many marketers who are actually BUILDING BUSINESSES also don't have the time for it. I'm too busy making money and I'm not even an experienced internet marketer FFS. If I actually had the skills some of these guys have on this forum I'd be making a killing right now. There is absolutely a bunch of legitimate marketers on here making some decent money. Then likewise there are a TON of fakes and frauds who are too damn lazy to put the time in.

The fact remains plenty of people are still making money, they are the ones who take massive action, who treat people right, who release quality content, who don't have a care in the world for bitter marketers like you.

So don't tell me marketing doesn't work, YOU don't work.

-Red