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First things first!

I have a music release site (Latest Music Releases) I have a twitter page (https://twitter.com/Exec_Business), Facebook Fan Page (Latest Music Releases | Facebook), Google + Page (https://plus.google.com/b/1030818311...97400110/posts)! And basically been reading about Youtube being the way forward for traffic!

I tried to make a couple of video's the other day, and it totally put me off, the video's were taking ages to make, and then ages to upload which is a massive pain as I don't have much time due to other commitments! Anyway, I would like to venture into the idea of using Youtube for view, but would like to do so without all the hassle!

I was wondering if there was anything out there to basically, copy an existing youtube view, change the image used on the video and upload it onto your account! Or something along those lines?!

Thanks for your time!
#video advertising #video making #youtube #youtube help #youtube posting
  • Profile picture of the author Ron Desi
    Can you be more descriptive as to what you're trying to do? What's on the video that you tried to make?

    Are you suggesting taking someone else's YouTube video, changing something on the video to mark it as yours and uploading it to your channel? If so, that's not very cool.

    I suggest making your own content. Whether you do it or hire someone to do it...but it should be yours.

    My 2 cents
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    • Profile picture of the author cooperman16
      Originally Posted by WebsiteVideoPresenter View Post

      Can you be more descriptive as to what you're trying to do? What's on the video that you tried to make?

      Are you suggesting taking someone else's YouTube video, changing something on the video to mark it as yours and uploading it to your channel? If so, that's not very cool.

      I suggest making your own content. Whether you do it or hire someone to do it...but it should be yours.

      My 2 cents
      i did try, it just took so much time and effort, there must be a quicker way to create?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Originally Posted by KimJongUn View Post

    Yes its possible. Rip a video with atubecatcher or whatever, change the length a bit, re-upload, boost views with Vagex = profit

    Don't rip an old/popular video, take one with a few views that was recently uploaded.

    And ignore the people who will tell you its unethical.
    OK...How about if some of us use the word "illegal" instead? (Unless it's your own video or allowed under Creative Commons/Public Domain)
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Desi
      Amen to that Kurt!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by KimJongUn View Post

        Nothing is going to happen to him except maybe his video gets deleted after a few months.
        OK, forget about legality and morals. Your advice is, don't worry about a video being taken down just before it gets "ripe" and starts to get real traffic.

        BTW, is it really that hard to use Youtube's editor, search for Creative Commons videos, use them to make videos, and do it the right way? There's tons of people that allow you to use their videos, why not do that?
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    • Profile picture of the author cooperman16
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      OK...How about if some of us use the word "illegal" instead? (Unless it's your own video or allowed under Creative Commons/Public Domain)
      oops, didn't realise it was illegal.. definite no no then! sorry, my bad!
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  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
    Originally Posted by KimJongUn View Post

    Yes its possible. Rip a video with atubecatcher or whatever, change the length a bit, re-upload, boost views with Vagex = profit

    Don't rip an old/popular video, take one with a few views that was recently uploaded.

    And ignore the people who will tell you its unethical.
    How can anybody with just a spattering of intelligence not see the intent right there? Why wouldn't you want to choose a popular one with a lot of views? Simple!

    So you don't get busted! Why wouldn't you want to get busted?

    Because it is illegal, as Kurt just pointed out!

    Sheesh! The nerve and/or ignorance of some people!

    Originally Posted by KimJongUn View Post


    Don't ripoff any video...
    Fixed that for you.

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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by KimJongUn View Post

        Well I was more coming from the approach that he wont get any real traffic by ripping a popular vid so it'd be pointles, but this is also true. I think maybe we can take it as a given that he wont want his vids getting deleted and his account banned. This can happen if he rips famous vids but will almost certainly not happen if he takes a recently uploaded vid from a no name channel.

        He said he wants to earn with youtube without much putting effort in. Forgive me for answering the guy's question in an honest way and telling him a method he can actually earn money with.
        I'll forgive you as soon as you admit that you're trying to teach the guy how to steal videos illegally, violating copyright infringement laws.

        If one wants to utilize already created videos for time saving purposes, then not only should they heed Kurt's advice by searching for Creative Commons videos, but I also recommend they take a look at his product. It has awesome tips for doing just that as well as a lot of other excellent tips regarding YouTube marketing.

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  • Profile picture of the author foxtrot3
    Go to fiverr, get vids made for 5 bux.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
    Originally Posted by KimJongUn View Post

    Yes its possible. Rip a video with atubecatcher or whatever, change the length a bit, re-upload, boost views with Vagex = profit

    Don't rip an old/popular video, take one with a few views that was recently uploaded.

    And ignore the people who will tell you its unethical.
    THIS is why you are no doubt going on a lot of Warrior's ignore lists right about now. You've only been a forum member for a few days, so you may not know this, but this community does not advocate theft and piracy. Good luck in your stay on the forum. It will likely be short lived if you continue advocating stealing from others online.
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  • Profile picture of the author rohan731
    It's not that hard. And yes, it does take a bit of time- it depends on how big your videosize is. You could do something else in the meantime- couldn't you? If you are doing internal recording which you are probably not, download a program called Screenflow. If you are doing external recordings, video cam would do just fine and when uploaded, just stabilize it. Try cutting out bits which are not needed so the filesize is smaller and takes less time.
    You could use a video editing software to do this. Yes, it does take time to do external recordings but when the views start coming in, it's worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author bengirwb
    My problem with using my video, or part of it, in a mashup, or on an aggravator site, etc., is that I don't get a cut of any ads on or around it.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I think you are thinking youtube is going to be a little too easy. Youtube has been fairly simple for me so far but you need to do some initial set up work.

    For instance, setting up my power director software right the first time took about 6 hours. I saved various projects, each project with tons of videos I downloaded from youtube (using keepvid), and tons of pictures as well. All relevant to whatever niche I was working in. Then I'd save the project as something like "dub turbo niche" or "basement waterproofing niche (for my own business)" or "truth about abs" niche.

    So imagine this, when I need to make a video in those niches now, I just open up the project I saved in powerdirector, it will autoopen about 50 videos and 100 pictures for that specific niche. Then I just get to work slicing things up, remixing, take out my mic and do a basic voice over. Run my voice through logic studio to beef it up then bring it back into power director.

    I am able to make LOTS of newly mixed videos using this "method". If you're going to get into making lots of videos, do what any artist would do. Like a musician or painter. Make a PALLETE of sounds or colors, or in this case pictures/videos. When you go through the work of gathering your "canvas" it makes it a thousand times easier to work in the future.

    Youtube takes a bit more time at first BUT once you make about 10 videos, you start learning tricks where you are able to finish things MUCH faster.

    If you are really that struck for time, then maybe you shouldn't even be in marketing?
    Some people will say you can finish things working on them only 1-2 hours a day, but lets face it you'll never move forward at that rate. You need MORE TIME or MORE EFFICIENT ways to work.

    You make the choice.

    -Red
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    • Profile picture of the author cooperman16
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      I think you are thinking youtube is going to be a little too easy. Youtube has been fairly simple for me so far but you need to do some initial set up work.

      For instance, setting up my power director software right the first time took about 6 hours. I saved various projects, each project with tons of videos I downloaded from youtube (using keepvid), and tons of pictures as well. All relevant to whatever niche I was working in. Then I'd save the project as something like "dub turbo niche" or "basement waterproofing niche (for my own business)" or "truth about abs" niche.

      So imagine this, when I need to make a video in those niches now, I just open up the project I saved in powerdirector, it will autoopen about 50 videos and 100 pictures for that specific niche. Then I just get to work slicing things up, remixing, take out my mic and do a basic voice over. Run my voice through logic studio to beef it up then bring it back into power director.

      I am able to make LOTS of newly mixed videos using this "method". If you're going to get into making lots of videos, do what any artist would do. Like a musician or painter. Make a PALLETE of sounds or colors, or in this case pictures/videos. When you go through the work of gathering your "canvas" it makes it a thousand times easier to work in the future.

      Youtube takes a bit more time at first BUT once you make about 10 videos, you start learning tricks where you are able to finish things MUCH faster.

      If you are really that struck for time, then maybe you shouldn't even be in marketing?
      Some people will say you can finish things working on them only 1-2 hours a day, but lets face it you'll never move forward at that rate. You need MORE TIME or MORE EFFICIENT ways to work.

      You make the choice.

      -Red
      Thanks a lot for that! Is there not any software that could make the process any quicker though?!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    We got a little side tracked. Part of your problem with the time it takes to upload could simply be the format you save your videos in.

    If you save them as avi or something similar, they could be 10x larger than if you save them as MP4. This means it will not only take 10x longer to upload each time, you could be eating up the bandwidth your ISP gives you.

    If your videos aren't in MP4 format, try one of these video convertors. I haven't tried them, as I use Camtasia to do conversions.

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    • Profile picture of the author cooperman16
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      We got a little side tracked. Part of your problem with the time it takes to upload could simply be the format you save your videos in.

      If you save them as avi or something similar, they could be 10x larger than if you save them as MP4. This means it will not only take 10x longer to upload each time, you could be eating up the bandwidth your ISP gives you.

      If your videos aren't in MP4 format, try one of these video convertors. I haven't tried them, as I use Camtasia to do conversions.

      IWisoft Video Converter
      XReCode
      Freemake Video Converter
      Thanks for all your help and putting me in the right direction! Ill take that into account and see if its any quicker! thanks a bunch!
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  • Profile picture of the author larry1113
    You could hire someone to make videos for you but to be honest they way you should approach videos is like this.

    Each and every video you make is a traffic generation machine. So make it good and make it count. Let's say you spent 1 hour creating and uploading a great video with great content...that one video is 10x better than 100 shoddy videos that don't offer much value.

    I mean think about it. Someone who watches a crappy video (you've seen them, there are tons), will probably not click on the link in the video description and even if they do, why would they trust you.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooperman16
      Originally Posted by larry1113 View Post

      You could hire someone to make videos for you but to be honest they way you should approach videos is like this.

      Each and every video you make is a traffic generation machine. So make it good and make it count. Let's say you spent 1 hour creating and uploading a great video with great content...that one video is 10x better than 100 shoddy videos that don't offer much value.

      I mean think about it. Someone who watches a crappy video (you've seen them, there are tons), will probably not click on the link in the video description and even if they do, why would they trust you.
      thanks! great pointer there for me!
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  • Profile picture of the author swriviera
    Too bad there aren't more people who ask themselves if they should or should not be using other people's work.

    There is a method called "curation" where you do like newscasters do:
    -you introduce the content that is coming with some interesting information
    -you use the important part of the video for your purposes
    - you end it with your opinion/your twist to the info
    - YOU GIVE CREDIT (clearly mark the http://.... ) TO THE ORIGINAL.

    This is good if you find REALLY good content. You get credit for finding it and bringing to your readers/viewers AND, don't forget, you spread their url/name even farther on the web. If you give proper credit for the original video AND add some of "you" most don't mind they even see it as a benefit.

    For videos there is a wso that outlines the whole process but .... it IS a lot of work to do it right: Ninja Curation Profits (I am not affiliated with them - I just think it is a very complete product for video curation).

    *********

    If the problem is that your video is too large you can condense it with a program called handbrake. I haven't used it yet but I have seen demonstrations. You can find out how to use it on youtube.

    Best of luck,

    Sandra Walsh
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