Webinars

Originally Posted by RedShifted

Only webinar I've ever enjoyed was Niel Straus's annihilation method webinar.

I was involved in the seduction community long before marketing and had no idea who Frank Kern was at that point.

But what made the webinar so awesome wasn't Frank because he had very little to do with it, it was nothing other than Neil Straus and his skills in dating. A short man with the biggest balls you could ever imagine. Taking cameras out into the real world to answer questions in REAL LIFE about dating.

Approaching women, opening them, making out with them, all on camera.

It was one of the most intense "webinars" I've ever seen. When you consider the sheer amount of brevity that went into producing the webinar, then you come to a forum like this, you quickly realize WHY so many people are screwing up with webinars.

You could ask Neil a question about how to "open a set", he would take a camera to the bar with him so you could see everything, would open a set and be making out with girls in minutes.

THIS is the reason people paid so much money for Annihilation method. I think Frank Kern definitely helped them pull in more cash than they would have, but EVEN IF Neil didn't have Frank, his webinar would have STILL killed it. Frank was able to just keep things simple enough for Neil to work with.

Like "do this first, then get people to ask questions, release product based on questions people ask".

The point is its all about the product imo. If you have a ****ty product, you can make the best webinar in the world, it will still suck.

Neils product sold itself. He did virtually NO PROMOTING of the product either, ALL HE DID was BUST HIS ASS HELPING PEOPLE LEARN the actual methods. The methods were GREAT, he knew they were GREAT, so he did almost no promoting of the actual product. He was a known celebrity in the dating world, he was ALWAYS on camera proving his skills. There was NOTHING mysterious about anything he did. He simply had balls and he showed other men how to have balls too.

Anyway, I'm kinda getting off topic here but I always refer back to this webinar as one of the best I've ever seen. Marketers just seem so lazy most of the webinars I see on here. Like they're doing them just for the sake of doing webinars, they don't even care about making a killer product that tons of people will obsess over.

So thats just my conception of webinars coming from a dating "guru" who is now also a marketing newbie. I still watch the seduction community intensely, and fact is they seem to understand marketing better than most internet marketers on this forum.

Its quite the bold statement, but I honestly believe it to a certain extent. Just watch when dating gurus release a product, most of the time the products are fairly good.

In internet marketing, most of the time the products suck. You can tell they were put together in some half ass way. This is why I've always assumed that marketers are the laziest group of people in the world. I have a ton more reasons why I firmly believe this, but I won't get into it.

I do think laziness has a huge role in why most marketers fail. So many of them are so entitled just thinking "if I do this and this and that I will make money". Instead of thinking in terms of nothing other than value. They literally become blindsided by all the marketing options they have. Seems the marketing process itself distracts them from what real value actually means.

But enough of the rant!! Thats just been my take on webinars up untill this point.

-Red