Are These Domains Valuable?

by jimcal
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Almost a year ago, a guru suggested buying gplus domain names. I purchased a few such as: gplusdating.com. Now they are coming up for renewal. Are these ever going to be valuable?
Thanks in advance,
Jim
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  • gplusdating doesn't have any exact match search volume
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    • Profile picture of the author jimcal
      Yes, I realize that. He said Google would somehow make them valuable. Unfortunately, I don't remember the guy's name or the plan. Getting old sucks.
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    I was a CFM member too.

    I registered one on a whim.

    I'm not renewing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sharpest Pen
    Honestly, I don't believe that anything other than your own plans will make anything valuable. Back in 2005, I had a friend who was interested in buying domain names, so he and I brainstormed one night and came up with 10-15 and bought them. I bought 2 sites that I found quite funny: iPodArt.com and GoBitches.com. (I have a warped sense of humor.) We never did anything with either one, and I let the expire the next year.

    Well, I checked on them a couple of years later, and GoBitches.com had been turned into a homosexual pornography site. (I quickly clicked off of that one!) iPodArt.com hadn't been used for anything. Checking them tonight, I see that they neither is being used, although someone registered them both in 2011.

    Had I known what I had, I couldn't turned iPodArt into IPODart.com and made a nice financial newsletter site out of it. Can you look at your domains any differently and make something better out of them?
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    • Profile picture of the author CEOArob
      Originally Posted by Sharpest Pen View Post

      Well, I checked on them a couple of years later, and GoBitches.com had been turned into a homosexual pornography site. (I quickly clicked off of that one!)
      Lol. Post of the night for me.

      I'm going to start investing in domain names with profanity now, lol.

      Flip then for porn sites in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    You if you have several of them then I think keeping a single domain is good. Don't renew all of them.
    And The Big G will definitely make the G+ popular today or tomorrow. So If you have a very good luck you can get a good price for that Domain or can also use them personally.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaiganeshv
    Not worth even REG to be honest...
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  • Profile picture of the author noelj07
    I agree with jaiganeshv, unless one of the current domains is an exact match for a high traffic search, then it isn't worth it because you would have to build the site to make it valuable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    What is a gplus doman? Do you mean like Google+?
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    Hi

    I got this suggestion from Chris Farrell on a post from his member site. I expect that is where the OP got the same advice.

    Chris gave the advice to be taken "with a grain of salt" and not as a "sure fire winner".

    The idea was that Google+ had just been launched and was being pushed by Google as the next big social media platform.

    After a few drinks (okay that's me) Chris and some of his friends came up with the idea that gplus(keyword).com domains could be valuable by tying them into the "Google+" (gplus) phenomenom.

    The idea was not that these terms would get SEO or search engine traffic, but that they could be branded and aligned with Google+.

    I have no idea if anyone has been able to brand a gplus domain and/or make one successful, but it seems to me this was a little idea that sounded good after a round of drinks, but a year or so later hasn't really turned into the anything.

    Mahlon
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  • Profile picture of the author krestup
    The term G+ is gain a lot of popularity, my advise for you is, renew it you can but don't put too much hope on it. Domain investment is a speculative investment, so just be careful. You never can tell what's going to be big tomorrow except you have to look into the future. also find out is the term G+ is a trademark.
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  • Profile picture of the author Redwyn88
    Try selling one of them, that's the best way to find out what it's worth...
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  • Profile picture of the author KimboJim
    I would stay away from domains with trademarked names. Businesses are known for hunting you down and suing you. They'll wait until the website is making money, and then they will send a cease and desist letter.
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    • Profile picture of the author giuseph90
      Chances of those domains getting any value at all is 50% like almost all domains so you might as well sell one of them at least. This way you still get to have some of your money back. And if you would like them to have large value at all then I suggest that you just insert a lot of traffic into them. With lots of visitors on any of them I'm sure it'll have a good profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author JerrickYeoh
    It might value but not for now. Google + users is still less compare to Facebook . It yet still state as ghost town for years.
    You might need to hold it still the end of Facebook and replace by Google Plus. Then it might be worth for the domain .

    I agree with krestup that sometime it might face trademark issues, make sure it fine to register it . Trademark might cause you to paid back more rather than you earn.
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    hi, if you want to check vlaue for your domain names here providing domain appraisal...in this you can check your domain name value and how it worth now.......
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  • Profile picture of the author utuxia
    Not worth anything, and you could get slapped with a UDRP because it's a trademark name.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankMiller
    Take the hit. Don't renew. That domain isn't worth much. Just sayin. It's still better than me and my 10-15 useless domains I keep registering
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  • Profile picture of the author utuxia
    I went on a binge about 4 months ago and bought about 20 domains. I regret having done that. I've built out 2 or 3 of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Smale
    Any "guru" advising you to buy trademarked domains needs to be steered well clear of. That's terrible, terrible advice.

    If Google did make G+ popular, then the domains would still be worthless as you're infringing on their trademark. Google are quite aggressive with their trademarks as well so I doubt you'd get away with it for long.
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    • Profile picture of the author onSubie
      Originally Posted by Thomas Smale View Post

      Any "guru" advising you to buy trademarked domains needs to be steered well clear of. That's terrible, terrible advice.

      If Google did make G+ popular, then the domains would still be worthless as you're infringing on their trademark. Google are quite aggressive with their trademarks as well so I doubt you'd get away with it for long.
      Google does not own the exclusive trademark for gplus.

      'GPlus' is trademarked by Yuna Software Ltd. for "Computer software for Instant Messaging Services". It has been registered by them for this purpose since 2005.

      I found Google has a trademark for "G Plus', wth a space. In a URL that may be moot as they don't have spaces.

      Trademarks can be limited in what they cover. For example, if I started a hotel chain, calling it "Delta" would infringe on Delta Hotels trademark.

      But if I created a chainsaw and I called it the Delta 500, that would likely not infringe on Delta Hotels trademark.

      That being said- I don't really see the 'intrinsic' value of a 'gplus' domain over any other domain that would need to be branded.

      Mahlon
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      • Profile picture of the author Thomas Smale
        Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

        And people who don't know what they are talking about shouldn't post misinformation in public forums.

        Google does not own the trademark for gplus.

        'GPlus' is trademarked by Yuna Software Ltd. for "Computer software for Instant Messaging Services". It has been registered by them for this purpose since 2005.

        Trademarks can be limited in what they cover. For example, if I started a hotel chain, calling it "Delta" would infringe on Delta Hotels trademark.

        But if I created a chainsaw and I called it the Delta 500, that would likely not infringe on Delta Hotels trademark.

        I have no idea why you post a bunch of BS about Google being aggressive with their trademarks and what that has to do with 'gplus' at all.

        Mahlon
        I'm talking about "google plus" not "gplus", which is what the guru advised buying. The OP just happened to buy "gplus". If you bought anything with googleplus in it, they certainly would be aggressive over it.

        Maybe I intrepreted it incorrectly, but buying Google Plus domains is not a good idea. And if he were actually talking about "gplus" - why would anyone want to buy them? Totally worthless regardless of how popular Google Plus gets.

        I don't know why you're getting so aggressive anyway. Regardless of what's right/wrong trademark wise, Google are big enough to bully you out of the domain if they want to. Not many people can afford to fight them and win. But hey, what do I know...
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        • Profile picture of the author onSubie
          Originally Posted by Thomas Smale View Post

          I'm talking about "google plus" not "gplus", which is what the guru advised buying. The OP just happened to buy "gplus". If you bought anything with googleplus in it, they certainly would be aggressive over it.
          LOL Yes, I toned down my rhetoric...

          But the OP, and the "guru" advice was for gplus.

          I'm sure there is a difference between 'gplus' and 'g plus' and 'g+'.

          It would also depend on the intent of the user.

          If you created a site gplus-something, and it was tied to Google/Google+ and relied on that assocition for the value of 'gplus' Google could have a case for infringement.

          But if the term were used for some other purpose than to exploit the 'Google' connection it may be fine.

          Naturally I am not a lawyer. Trademark law can get quite complex. Simple or complex I do not have the pockets to fight with Google.

          Peace.



          Mahlon

          PS: If you Google 'gplus', you find this Warrior thread started by Gaz last year...

          http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-dot-coms.html

          That post by Gaz, the 'rush' for gplus domains and Google's filing for a "G Plus" trademark all happened around the same time... mid-July 2011.
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          • Profile picture of the author Thomas Smale
            Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

            Naturally I am not a lawyer. Trademark law can get quite complex. Simple or complex I do not have the pockets to fight with Google.
            Yes... this was pretty much my point. I feel it's irresponsible to advise people to buy domains that are borderline (not even saying it's right or wrong) as Google could cause you a lot of headaches if they wanted to, especially if you tried to leverage of their popularity.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Let them go. GPlus is valuable only to Google. I haven't checked, but GPlus may even be trademarked, which makes them even less valuable to people who will not buy domains that infringe on trademarks.

    EDIT: Just saw the post above saying Google doesn't own the trademark for gplus, so you can take that out of the consideration, but in my opinion, you'd be really lucky to dump these domains for a price.

    Do keyword research before buying domains and buy domains that have a good amount of exact match searches and domains that have commercial value. One way to determine commercial value of a domain is to type the keyword in Google and if there are a lot of competing Adwords ads showing, it has commercial value.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Kyle
    Domaining is a tricky area and requires deep specialization to do well. As KJ suggested, stay away from any trademark terms.

    The occasional massive payday in domaining keeps a lot of wannabe domainers ploughing money in but it's a tough game.
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    As an example...

    PayPal and eBay are very aggressive with their trademarks. A few years ago I registered a paypalsomething.com domain and had a CnD from PayPal within 48 hours. I hadn't even set the DNS servers- it was simply registered.

    But sites like paypalsucks.com and paypalsucks.net run without a problem.

    This is often called the "walmart sucks precident". You can use a company tradmark as a 'complaint platform' as long as consumers are not confused about the purpose and you don't use the trademark for infringing commercial benefit.

    Users are also protected from trademark violations if the trademark is used in a parody. This is why you see many porn movies and porn sites using trademark names without getting sued.

    In this case, even using the parody specifically to create a commercial 'for profit' product (adult film) that relies on the trademark for marketing does not seem to cause a problem.

    Mahlon
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    Drop them. You're much better off establishing your own brand(s).
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas W
    from my experience a domain name is worthless unless it's a one word name. Forget about keyword searches, but more of TYPE IN value. So if there isn't a type in value it's not worth the price of renewal. Escpecially if you don't plan to develop the site but rather just squating the domain name.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
      Originally Posted by Thomas W View Post

      from my experience a domain name is worthless unless it's a one word name. Forget about keyword searches, but more of TYPE IN value. So if there isn't a type in value it's not worth the price of renewal. Escpecially if you don't plan to develop the site but rather just squating the domain name.
      Sorry, but this is poor advice. I make my living selling domain names, and have done so for many years. I assure you, the domains that are in demand (I've sold thousands of domains), are 2 or 3 word domains. Most of them are keyword rich.
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  • Profile picture of the author utuxia
    Parking domains does not pay what it used to pay.
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  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    There was a thread here I read about a warrior that owns the domain scooby.com and has owned it for a few years but has never done anything with it. Even if you have a good domain name you won't make any decent money from it if you don't use it unless you're lucky enough that somebody wants it badly enough to offer you a decent price.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheWrightWords
    Did google even apply for "gplus" as a new TLD? I know ICANN recently released about 1800 applications, and google was at the forefront (with amazon and a few others), but don't recall gplus as an applied name. If they don't think it was valuable enough to secure as a tld, I wouldn't want it. (They did go for .app (the most popular potential new TLD), .book, .movie and about 70 others).
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    • Profile picture of the author TheWrightWords
      I got curious and double checked -- nobody applied for ".GPlus" as a TLD -- so even Google doesn't want it, I'd pass!
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    Have it appraised w/some reputable co. Maybe somebody here can recommend one to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author zigzag007
    In my opinion it's a waste of money, but if someone wants it bad enough you never know.
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    Another "guru" bites the dust

    Anyway, a great way to find out if a domain niche has some traction is by looking at Twitter trends for that niche. If you notice a nice uptick, you're in the ballpark.
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