How do you promote a clickbank product through a offline flyer?

by raywarrior1978

Posted: 12 years ago 22 replies

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Hi. I am not sure if I am posting this on the correct thread.

I am thinking about outsourcing someone who can create me a nice converting flyer to promote a clickbank product.

This are my thoughts:

For example, lets says I want to promote: silver lotto
I would buy this domain silver-lotto.org

I would make a really nice flyer enticing all of the benefits of silver lotto and have my domain name in the bottom telling people to visit the site

I would mask the url with my cb affiliate link. The reason I would mask the url instead of using a 301 redirect is because it looks better as the url address will stay the same but it really is my affiliate url hidden within the domain.

If they buy I get the commissions

What else do I need to do?

Thanks for your help guys and ladies

:O)

#clickbank #flyer #offline #product #promote

Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by raywarrior1978

What else do I need to do?

These things (promoting offline - which can work well as long as you send the traffic to your own pre-selling site with an incentivized opt-in - doesn't make them any less worthwhile or important) ... http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5210243
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- raywarrior1978 12 years ago
  
  Alexa I aprreciate your response but the link you gave me is a thread that talks about list building, creating great content for your customers, providing value and so on....
  
  I am referring to offline marketing through flyers only
  
  Have you ever tried it yourself?
  
  I was wondering if anyone has had any success promoting cb products through offline flyers
  
  What steps did they take..
  
  Please try to stay within this topic only as I am interested in giving this a try.
  
  Thanks Alexa
  
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  Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  I am referring to offline marketing through flyers only
  
  Sorry you found my link unhelpful.
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  Have you ever tried it yourself?
  
  Yes. Before I understood the three basic essentials listed in the post to which I linked. It was a complete waste of time, effort and money for me. I wish you much better luck with it than I had.
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  I was wondering if anyone has had any success promoting cb products through offline flyers
  
  What steps did they take.
  
  The people I know who've been successful with it (and that's quite a few) have all taken the three steps listed in the post to which I referred you in addition to distributing flyers. Distributing flyers simply generates type-in traffic. It's a traffic-generator, pure and simple. It doesn't obviate the need for effective online pre-selling and list-building. To sell ClickBank products, you need those wherever the traffic comes from. In my opinion. Let's hope I'm wrong, eh?
  
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IM Support Banned 12 years ago

It's best to use CPA offers for Flyers - Have college kids hand them out at there college. On the flyer you have 2 hot celebrities. and it's a simple yes or no- Guess which one is hotter- go to www(dot)yourwebsite(dot)com to submit your answer- if you answer it right you could win a free iPad- of course you use a free email submit ipad offer you can find at neverblue(dot)com
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SandraLarkin Banned 12 years ago

Well, you would have to go where you would think the people the product is targeted after hang out.

For example, "How to get free college grants for kids struggling with tution". or something like that, you would take the flyers, and put them in college buildings around your area. Simple as that.
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alamest 12 years ago

I think you have to distribute in the busy place and distribute 10,000 flyers and see the testings, if it goes good than boom.. do it continually but if it is doing good than built list and capture their details and use them for future marketing purpose..

You have to test it, without testing you can't judge and approve, go out and go for distributing heavily..

I hope this suggestion works..
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- raywarrior1978 12 years ago
  
  Hey thank you for your replys. Alexa maybe you didn't have success and it was a waste of time because maybe you didn't have the right flyer design or the correct audience. How many times did you try it? Did you test out different flyers and handing it out in different places split testing results or did you say it was a waste of time for you based on a one time trial?
  
  I am just asking because I needed to know why you wrote it off so fast before jumping to the conclusion that it didn't work out for you.
  
  I hear some are saying to capture their emails but I was thinking that if I just send people to a clickbank product that has the lowest refund, it has a recurring billing cycle and people are extremely happy then I can keep making money every month. For example I can promote chris farrell membership which is excellent and people stay there for a long time. I know I did.
  
  Let me know, thanks Alexa and the rest for your input.
  
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  Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  I am just asking because I needed to know why you wrote it off so fast before jumping to the conclusion that it didn't work out for you.
  
  Yes, perfectly fair question, of course.
  
  I wrote off the "flyers only" idea when I learned that if you don't build a list, you can effectively send most people to your hoplink only once each, rather than many times each.
  
  Most people who buy ClickBank (and other) products don't do so at their first visit to the sales page. (I think we can agree about that principle without needing to debate it, can't we? This is kind of "marketing 101", after all? ).
  
  So compared with the easy alternative, it seems terribly wasteful not to have a way of doing more pre-selling and sending your traffic back there repeatedly?
  
  Not to mention that with a list you can have a sales funnel and make multiple sales to the same people (which, again, I hope we can agree without needing to discuss it, is where most of the money is, in affiliate marketing?).
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  I hear some are saying to capture their emails but I was thinking that if I just send people to a clickbank product that has the lowest refund ...
  
  Whoa ... hold on a minute, Ray ...
  
  First of all, refund rates are not published, not available, and not derivable from published information (yes, there are sites that claim to be able to work them out, but the operative word is "claim"!).
  
  Secondly, why would average refund rates have anything to do with your refund-rates, anyway? :confused:
  
  Products typically have hugely varying refund rates across their ranges of affiliates, because the refund rate is determined principally by how the product's pre-sold by the affiliate.
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  ... it has a recurring billing cycle and people are extremely happy then I can keep making money every month.
  
  On the very few sales that you happen to be able to make from "first pass visits with no reminders/contact/further pre-selling", you mean? Well, yes, arguably.
  
  But still you'll be chasing perhaps 5% - 10% of the money that you could make from this, rather than all of it. In my opinion.
  
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  raywarrior1978 12 years ago
  
  Now I am confused, maybe I can target instead of a clickbank product a cpa offer.
  
  For example I see they have a free $500 dollars toys are us gift card with email submit from my cpa account
  
  maybe I can come up with a domain name like this:
  freetoysgiftcard.com this is just an example and i will mask the url with my cpa affiliate link so that my domain url doesn't change and doesn't scare the customer away.
  
  Then they land on my cpa offer and enter their email
  
  The only problem I see with this is that almost all cpa offers with either zip code or email submits have big letters that says: participation is required, or you must complete this offers at the bottom.
  
  So when people see this they leave your site. Unless you have those people who don't pay attention to this until later after they submit their email or zip code
  
  I am confused. lol
  
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  Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  maybe I can target instead of a clickbank product a cpa offer.
  
  That, I think, is a different proposition altogether (and not one I know much about, myself).
  
  But why not just do as you're suggesting and build a list from the leads? It might be very successful, if you choose a good niche? :confused:
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  maybe I can come up with a domain name like this:
  freetoysgiftcard.com this is just an example
  
  If you're dealing with type-in traffic, from a flyer, the domain-name isn't too relevant, really, perhaps? It's not as if you're dependent on SEO for your traffic (which is a good thing, of course)?
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  I am confused. lol
  
  I can't help you with any information about CPA.
  
  May I just ask: is there some particular reason you want to do something like this, flyer-based (I'm not criticising flyer distribution in itself, at all!) without list-building? :confused:
  
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  raywarrior1978 12 years ago
  
  Because I have failed miserable at building a list. So now i just wanted to try this out and since I never seen anyone in here talking about it then it might mean 2 things, either is great and converts and they are keeping it a secret or it does not convert well.
  
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  Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  Because I have failed miserable at building a list.
  
  So did I, when I first started.
  
  You have to get over it, dust yourself down, dust down the list and throw it away (if there's an "it" to throw away at all), and then start again after studying the essential things to know about building lists: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982
  
  "Failure at list-building" is generally caused by taking action prematurely without knowing exactly what actions to take.
  
  Unfortunately, the forum's full of post after post telling people to "just take action", and all that nonsense conceals the reality that the reason most people fail isn't failure to take action at all: it's setting off in the wrong direction.
  
  List building is one of the (many) things for which you need the correct information before you start. You can't learn it "as you go along". Well, you can, but it makes your first attempts a dreadful failure, like yours and mine were!
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  I never seen anyone in here talking about it
  
  Ooooh, I have - there are plenty of threads about it in here. They're a bugger to find, though, because you have to know exactly which words to search for. :rolleyes:
  
  I can give you my half-remembered impressions of the threads I read here about that, around 3 - 4 years ago. The gist was that it worked for some people and failed totally for others. (No big surprise there? Just like everything else in internet marketing?!).
  
  Specifically, it worked for the people who built lists. Sorry to go on about it, but that's how it is.
  
  Originally Posted by raywarrior1978
  
  it might mean 2 things, either is great and converts and they are keeping it a secret or it does not convert well.
  
  Or a third thing? That it works for some people and not for others, and that the people for whom it works are using it just as a traffic-generation method (which is what it is) which might be miles better than SEO traffic (because most things are) and then after they have the traffic, they're applying the basic principles of selling ClickBank products (as mentioned in post #2 above) and the basics of list-building (as mentioned here)? That's my reading of it, anyway. And I wish you really good luck, if trying it. I failed with it, myself, after doing some big printing jobs - but I didn't know what I was doing, and if you try it after reading those two posts, and understanding what to do with the traffic, you have much better chances than I did!
  
  I think there are two totally different ways forward, after a complete failure at list-building, and that whether you end up making a living through internet marketing will - for most people - depend partly on which you choose. The first way is to ask "Ok, I screwed up completely with list-building, so what are the ways of making a living online that don't involve list-building?". The second way (which I followed, and I recommend it to you, also) is to say "Ok, I screwed up completely with list-building, so what are the things I need to learn and understand about list-building so that I can be successful with it next time, as so many others are?"
  
  And I wish you well!
  
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  raywarrior1978 12 years ago
  
  wow I just notice someone who actually implemented my idea and had success on this thread
  
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  raywarrior1978 12 years ago
  
  I created a flyer myself 2 days ago with microsoft powerpoint and got a few fiverr gigs to distribute my flyers.
  
  Will post results maybe in 2 or 3 weeks and see if any sales come in.
  
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mojojuju 12 years ago

It's been more than 10 years ago, but I used to hang up flyers on bulletin boards at a nearby university. Seduction/dating/How-to-pick-up-chicks ebooks is all that I sold on a campus that had a disproportionate amount of men to women.

I'd basically just make flyers that had some attention grabbing graphics and text on it, a small amount of information about the product, and then the URL where more information could be found. I always put little tear-off strips at the bottom of the flyer that had the web address on it.

The URL was simply a Clickbank hoplink that was frame-cloaked using the service provided by shorturl.com.

It's a pretty cool way to get sales, and an easy way to get money quick, but it takes some work hanging up the flyers in the buildings and classrooms and lots of walking. But it's fun.

BTW, college kids are a great market for all kinds of stuff.
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RedShifted 12 years ago

Flyers definitely work for other things but I'm yet to see one single thread about promoting clickbank products.

Whatever you do, target the hell out of your market. If its a weight loss ebook, drop flyers at gyms, vitamin shops, health food stores.

I still don't know if this will work. You're really going to need something engaging to get people to act. It may be better to use the flyers to drive people to an optin page where you give something AWESOME away for free. Collect their information then market clickbank products to them later.

If you plan on going flyer directly to > product, I don't see that working well. You want a STRONG VALUABLE OFFER on that flyer that people can't resist. It will be hard to do that with a pay for ebook.

An alternative can be to write a free ebook about weight loss. Really put your time into it and make it informative/unique. Give it a KILLER title, then use the postcards to promote the free ebook. Inside the ebook put a bunch of affiliate offers. That could definitely work better if you know anything about writing good copy.

G/luck! - Red
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dklab756 12 years ago

I think if CB product addresses "wants" of people where flyers are distributed you may have a good shot. I think you strategy with url is logical and will increase conversions.

I came across new marketing program released by USPS - Every Door Direct Mail. You can slect area around zip code and they will mail out for you for the cost of stamp. You need to be a business and have mail out permit , but other than that it is pretty straight.

You can pick the right zip code by analyzing US Census data that will let you target wealthy neighborhoods and ethnicity.
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fcebri24 12 years ago

You should give it a shot since I read many people having success with it. I would suggest CPA instead of Clickbank; I reckon the conversions would be much higher. Fiverr is a great place to find people who would distribute your flyer pretty much everywhere within the US.
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- raywarrior1978 12 years ago
  
  Yes I already tried fiverr out and they are distributing the flyers this week.
  
  The problem is that there is no actual proof that they are actually doing it.
  So that is a risk. But I went to walmart yesterday and purchased some bright yellow paper and I will print them myself and go door to door.
  
  A clickbank product would work very well depending on the niche you are promoting.
  For example, what person wouldn't be interested in making money online, especially those who are not working right now or those who want to make some extra cash.
  
  The problem with cpa offers is this. Too many people are use to those cpa sales page that looks fishy. People know that there is nothing for free and when they see at the botton the small print that says you must complete X amount of sponsor emails to qualify for this offer, they automatically click away.
  
  maybe you haven't thought about that.
  
  I believe that maybe some people alter the cpa offer with some type of html coding to delete the sponsor messages at the bottom and just leave the top part where they enter only their email and zip code to make it look more legitimate. Just a speculation thought, lol.
  
  Oh well away we go with my vibrant yellow flyers today. At least this way I know for sure they are being seen as I will deliver them myself
  
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JBagnas 12 years ago

Hey Ray, smart idea about the flyers! Are you still having success with them?
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dengkane 12 years ago

Alexa's posts are inspiring, and thank you.
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martimoney 12 years ago

Thanks Alexa for your insight. I too believe any type of marketing we do needs to have a list building component to it. I have been building my list for the past 3 months or so and it wasn't until last week that I realized I have been doing so much of it wrong. Live and learn : )

Raywarrior, I have had some flyer success at a local college with writing jobs online. I put flyers up all over the campus. I made a pretty good profit on my monetary investment, but factoring in my time didn't produce the results I was hoping for. I'm sure with more outsourcing of the leg work I could have ramped this up, but took myself into different directions. I also did flyers with a Starbucks CPA offer and handed them out at every Starbucks I could find. Again made some quick cash. My only regret through both of these processes was not sending them to a lead capture page first. I would love to be able to build a relationship with these customers who signed up for the services and continued to market to them in the future. I would strongly suggest listening to the advice Alexa is giving.

Good luck with your project!
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