Does this mean I found a good niche

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Hi Guys,

I am literally a newbie to IM and trying to learn by reading this wonderful forum.

Your feedback and help on this would be appreciated.

I have a product that I can easily make and different sizes sells from 25$ all the way up to 1500$ (sometimes more) These are prices I have seen people buy the product at actual stores and on the internet.

Next I checked available .com domains and to my surprise the actual two word domain of the product is available.

When I google the two words the first 5 pages are not one company at all. It is either ebay listings or question sites like yahoo answers and ask.com. Midway through the 5th page on google is where the first company that sells this product appears.

My question to you is does this mean I have found a good niche since no big companies appear on the first 5 pages?

What would be my next steps to take to see competition, how many people in the world search for said product, etc?

I thank you in advance,

<B> PS sorry for double post, server said it timed out. Mods delete one post please
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas W
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  • Profile picture of the author Wade32
    Sounds like you may have stumbled onto something. I would do what ThomasW said and check the number of monthly searches for that keyword. It may be that the reason no other big companies are showing up for that keyword is because there is just no traffic from it. Hope there is for your sake tho!
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    • Profile picture of the author jb456223
      Thanks for the reply,

      I did as you have asked and here are my findings.

      My two letter search word. Global Monty Searches 4000, Local Monthly 3600

      Now 3 words can also be used to search this and that is Global 18100, Local 14400

      The product is used for several different things in the household and go by different names and when I search different names in the keyword tool that they go by the highest I seen was Global 201,000 and Local 135,000

      Like I said I am an extreme newbie so your help is appreciated.

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author PCH
        Oh gee,

        that all sounds too hard - you'd better just pass it to me and I'll look after it for you - lol

        It sounds like you might be onto a winner there buddy. Bit more work required, but the initial signs sound promising.

        These things CAN happen. But there are many millions of smart cookies out there who have already thought of most things. And the idea of a total noob stumbling across a great idea is rare to say the least. But it obviously does happen from time to time, so I'm not knocking the idea. I'd just really caution you to do your homework properly before getting too excited.

        Hope it all works out for you though
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        • Profile picture of the author jb456223
          Originally Posted by PCH View Post

          Oh gee,

          that all sounds too hard - you'd better just pass it to me and I'll look after it for you - lol

          It sounds like you might be onto a winner there buddy. Bit more work required, but the initial signs sound promising.

          These things CAN happen. But there are many millions of smart cookies out there who have already thought of most things. And the idea of a total noob stumbling across a great idea is rare to say the least. But it obviously does happen from time to time, so I'm not knocking the idea. I'd just really caution you to do your homework properly before getting too excited.

          Hope it all works out for you though
          HI PCH,

          Can you help me with the next steps I should take to continue looking into this further?

          I am not a total noob when it comes to online. I worked in the Online Gaming industry for sports betting for 10 years so I know a few things and have thought myself how to build websites. (HTML and Wordpress)

          I am currently reading and reading how to do proper seo, keywords, meta tags, etc.

          What I do not know is what are the steps to take from finding a niche, to searching if its a good enough to make buy the domain, etc.

          I already have about 750 pieces of the product in my shed ready to sell. Currently I only have a few posts on craigs and from time to time a local calls and comes buys a few pieces. I can easily make more on the weekends.

          I don't know if I should just go the route of posting them on ebay and getting a few bites or actually make a website and start marketing the product.

          If you can point me in a direction of how to's on the next steps after finding a possible niche that I can read and do some homework on it would be appreciated greatly.

          Regards,
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      • Profile picture of the author Obosh
        Originally Posted by jb456223 View Post

        Thanks for the reply,

        I did as you have asked and here are my findings.

        My two letter search word. Global Monty Searches 4000, Local Monthly 3600

        Now 3 words can also be used to search this and that is Global 18100, Local 14400

        The product is used for several different things in the household and go by different names and when I search different names in the keyword tool that they go by the highest I seen was Global 201,000 and Local 135,000

        Like I said I am an extreme newbie so your help is appreciated.

        Thanks
        Are they broad monthly search or exact money search? It's really hard to believe but if you are correct then you got a good niche...

        Another way you can find out competition is google your keyword with "". Write your keyword "my keyword" in google and see total results. It will be like About 2,460,000 results (0.11 seconds)....hope you are correct...
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  • Profile picture of the author happy2deal
    you are definitely in for a treat go ahead and buy that domain needless to say that wont be the end of it as you would need to work on it as well..
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  • Profile picture of the author Joni D
    try a free tool at traffictravis.com and check the websites on page one results for your keyword as to #backlinks to the page and the site BLP,BLS, PR pagerank, if they are listed in DMoz, if KW is in the url, title, H1,2,3 (headings) & title,
    I heard since the last panda update that now large sites like Amazon, Ebay, shopping dot com walmart dot com,etc are not easy to beat now like they were before the update, so make sure there is some PR0-PR 2,or PR3 sites you could beat, It's not the # of page results you are worried about but the rankings of those on page one, (like I listed above), as you will have to beat them.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimmyab
    Hey jb


    The best definition of a good niche would be something like this:

    "High search volume, low competition, with easy to rank 'buyer' keywords"


    To really know if the niche is solid and worth pursuing do some solid keyword research and especially look at how you can compete for "buyer" kw's.


    By this I mean kw's that people would have more intent to purchase with rather than kw's where people are just at the research stage... e.g buy 'yourproductname', best price 'yourproductname', 'yourproductname' reviews... etc


    Next I would check the search volumes of your main kw's in 'phrase' and 'exact' match on the Google kw tool.


    Then I would go and do a quick competition search... open a browser page, then type in "your-keyword" inside quotes and look up at the top left of the page at the returned search results - anything less than 50k pages is worth a look, less than 25k pages is worth pursuing and less than 10k pages is a definite.


    I have some solid teaching on keyword research... it's part of a course that shows how to build your own website and create passive online income... you can get it by clicking my signature... it's free!


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    Hope this helps

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    • Profile picture of the author mumu11
      Hai jb456223!


      Thats a good keyword if you get Local Monthly searched for 3600

      However if I'm using google keyword tool I checked the box at left side of the tools for Exact Match

      That showed you amount of the exact searched for that keyword people are searching for every single month

      and you can use Seoquake Plugin to check the PR for every website in First Page of Google for that keyword

      If you see some PR 0, PR 1, PR 2, PR 3 website on that page, if you are lucky you see this low PR website on Top 3, looks like you got a good keyword to go
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
    Domain names are not as important as they once were. Google keyword tool is awesome for this. Try all the different long tailed keywords and exact phrases. Or scrap SEO all together and buy traffic with whatever domain you like.
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  • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
    Sounds like you could be onto something, but you need to verify if there is an online need/market. I there is no market dont waste your time.
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  • Profile picture of the author sriram rajan
    If it looks so promising and i assume you already know about the product and its uses, start dong a review site which will benefit users, of course do a proper keyword search first, but more importantly check the market which can be done by a combination of online search which you have completed, offline (magazines, dummies books etc) and also search amazon for similar products and what kind of reviews are in there ..

    and then go for it , the worst that can happen is you spend about say $20 -200 on histing, domain and content and nothing happens, but best case if you have a winner just start doing rather than spending too much worrying about it .... you may be just 3 feet away from the gold.. so go for it ... with a little bit of research of course
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by jb456223 View Post

    Hi Guys,

    I am literally a newbie to IM and trying to learn by reading this wonderful forum.

    Your feedback and help on this would be appreciated.

    I have a product that I can easily make and different sizes sells from 25$ all the way up to 1500$ (sometimes more) These are prices I have seen people buy the product at actual stores and on the internet.

    Next I checked available .com domains and to my surprise the actual two word domain of the product is available.

    When I google the two words the first 5 pages are not one company at all. It is either ebay listings or question sites like yahoo answers and ask.com. Midway through the 5th page on google is where the first company that sells this product appears.

    My question to you is does this mean I have found a good niche since no big companies appear on the first 5 pages?

    What would be my next steps to take to see competition, how many people in the world search for said product, etc?

    I thank you in advance,

    <B> PS sorry for double post, server said it timed out. Mods delete one post please
    Technically, finding a profitable niche should be the first step in the process. The niche you're in dictates what kinds of products you are going to promote. The highest-converting keywords will be based around the products you find within your niche. With that said, you might have accidently stumbled onto something great. Go for it. When it comes to making money online, the only way you really learn is by doing.

    Joey
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  • Profile picture of the author Kadztheman
    depends how much traffic you get to your site and how many people search for it. try get up the ranks in search engines and you will make money if people buy
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  • Profile picture of the author JackCronfield
    Do you have a link to your website ?
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