Are forums obsolete now?

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And I am asking this on a forum itself...

Anyway, the thing is that I wanted to launch a forum in a broader niche, and when I consulted some of my friends, they were of the opinion that now people talk on twitter or FB or search something on Google or ask on Yahoo answers... In short, they tried to convince me that I would be wasting my time and money launching a forum... I think differently....

What is your take on this, starting a NEW forum can work?
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  • Profile picture of the author MayfairNoble
    Launching a new forum is a lot of hard work.

    You need an initial userbase to get others to sign up (nobody wants to join a forum without anything going on).

    If you're prepared to cheat a bit, I recommend hiring article writers to create some high quality topics, then paid posters to fill out the discussion.
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    • Profile picture of the author Web Warrior
      Originally Posted by MayfairNoble View Post

      Launching a new forum is a lot of hard work.

      You need an initial userbase to get others to sign up (nobody wants to join a forum without anything going on).

      If you're prepared to cheat a bit, I recommend hiring article writers to create some high quality topics, then paid posters to fill out the discussion.
      I'd been planning on that
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    • Profile picture of the author easternodyssey
      Put this way, i have a niche site. The site since launching 2 months ago, even though i a have small amount of trafic that is until my hard work in link building over the past week shows up, still has no members. I currently have a user forum on the site and have struggled with how to market this. I originally thought if people where not persuaded to like the site or even read the articles that they maybe wanting to use the forum. The problem is if hide the forum to none registered users, then people may not want to sign up to the site through lack of features. On the other hand if a leave the forum on the site then it pasuade people not to sign up to the forum as their is no posts and people may see it as a sign that my website is dead.

      Clearly the problem is that website have improved other the last few years and people are always demanding more and more from websites. Starting a social networking site really depends on your subject and features. Like clearly you will struggle to start a social networking site anyway. Unless you have a revolutionary idea you will never be able to compete with the major competetors. So in conclusion i dont think forums are dead, they just happen to take such a longer period of time to start whether you are doing just a forum site or a site with a forum. Plus they also have to serve a individual purpose that most social networking site do not provide. .
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  • Profile picture of the author asiancasanova
    Yes, I have to agree. The only way for you to have a decent forum is if you have a great user-base or else, it'll take you ages for your forum to be filled with quality posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    I spend more time here than I do on Facebook and Twitter combined (But then again... I am kinda nuts about IM!).

    But yeah, ton of upfront work involved but if you can pull it of, it could be your most profitable online asset in your arsenal.

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  • Profile picture of the author Trevor M
    Starting a new forum is easy...

    The hard part is attracting regular contributors and building a community on your forum.

    You'll find more than most of new forums die out quickly. Simply because no one wants to get involved in a forum where there are few members. Especially if there are other forums in the same niche with a large number of members.

    My advice to you would be to get well known in the niche first. Start a blog. Then when you launch the forum make sure YOU are very active in it. Then you'll find a lot of people post just to get to interact with you and get your advice.

    Good luck.

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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by Trevor M View Post

      Starting a new forum is easy...

      The hard part is attracting regular contributors and building a community on your forum.
      This. But forums are still very useful, and a new one (set up correctly) can definitely succeed if you take care of everything that others in this thread have mentioned. Something else to consider that your friends didn't. Why not leverage those people talking about your subject on social networks into regular users ? It's probably one of the few scenarios where social networking actually can work towards your business goals.
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by Trevor M View Post

      Starting a new forum is easy...

      The hard part is attracting regular contributors and building a community on your forum.
      That's because most people go about it backwards. The trick is to build the community first and the forum simply becomes the logical progression.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMFury
    I don't think forums are obsolete. Forums were there before FB and Twitter and until now forums are still there.

    If I want to have a question something like "I want to buy this latest processor, is this available now in our local market?" - I ask this in our local forums because 90% of my FB friends/Twitter followers don't know about it.

    I think forums and social networking sites will co-exists without hurting each other.
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    • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
      Originally Posted by IMFury View Post


      I think forums and social networking sites will co-exists without hurting each other.
      I agree. To me, the title of this thread sounds just like the sorts of questions I get about backlinks/SEO. Hysteria seems to abound when things online change and people tend to listen to and then repeat what others say, regardless of whether it's substantiated or not. And often the information being repeated has NOT been substantiated, or someone says "X happened to me" (without providing evidence) and then everyone takes it and runs with it. This goes on ALL the time.

      Forums provide a different type of service than Social Networking sites do. I don't think forums are going away anytime soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I don't really think that FB and Twitter are at all comparable to a forum. Forums are topic focused and attract like-minded people interested in the focus of the forum. They're nowhere near obsolete.

    That being said, they're a lot of work getting subscribers and keeping spammers out.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
      Originally Posted by Web Warrior View Post

      ...and when I consulted some of my friends, they were of the opinion that now people talk on twitter or FB or search something on Google or ask on Yahoo answers... In short, they tried to convince me that I would be wasting my time and money launching a forum...
      See that part I bolded and underlined ^^^ up there?

      I'm sure your friends are great people, otherwise you wouldn't be friends with them, but ask yourself this: Do you want what your friends have? If your friends are millionaire Internet marketers, then take their opinions like gold. If they're just friends trying to make a dime, why would you want to emulate what they're doing?

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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Talking with your friends is an important part of the equation, Jason. The fact that they aren't millionaires gives them the ability to see things from a perspective that might otherwise be missed. Sure, most of what they say may not be accurate, but that's why he did the right thing and asked relevant people right after .
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    • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
      Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

      Talking with your friends is an important part of the equation, Jason. The fact that they aren't millionaires gives them the ability to see things from a perspective that might otherwise be missed. Sure, most of what they say may not be accurate, but that's why he did the right thing and asked relevant people right after .
      That's the catch -- there's absolutely nothing wrong with talking with them. The problem is taking financial or business advice from people who aren't financially-wise or business-smart. (Again, nothing against your friends. I don't know them so I could be way off here.)

      Let's flip this around a little. Let's say you're considering getting a new toilet, the Flush-O-Matic 10000. Would you go and ask a banker if he thinks the pressure in your water pipes as well as the diameter of the outflow pipes is good enough to handle what the FOM10000 can do? Or would you consult with a plumber since that's what plumbers do?

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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

        Let's flip this around a little. Let's say you're considering getting a new toilet, the Flush-O-Matic 10000. Would you go and ask a banker if he thinks the pressure in your water pipes as well as the diameter of the outflow pipes is good enough to handle what the FOM10000 can do? Or would you consult with a plumber since that's what plumbers do?

        -- j
        Apples and oranges. You wouldn't go to your banker to ask about a toilet. You'd ask your friends though. Same way you would ask your friends before you made a career change and jumped online to start a forum. Social acceptance and having a support structure in place can be a huge part of the equation for the really successful business owners.
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        • Profile picture of the author fin
          Sometimes it's easy to start a forum. I've seen people do it, but never become huge.

          One of the easiest ways to do it is building a following on another forum and trying to move everyone across from one to the other. I've only seen this happen on forums that already have problems.

          Another way is to build up a huge tribe like Steve Kamb at NerdFitness and add a forum to your site.

          Good luck trying to start one from nothing. It could be pretty hard work.
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  • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
    I personally love forums but from a marketing sense not so sure, I am a member of a few I.M. ones and loads of sports ones but it seems that you would have to do a lot of maintenance to keep your forum clean and good.
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  • Profile picture of the author louie6925
    Forums and chat rooms will never be obsolete, maybe harder and harder to start your own, but as long as there is internet you will find forums!
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  • Profile picture of the author sriram rajan
    2 ways to look at it, i have taiing course in non im niche , technology to be specific where te entire was delivered through a forum platform , and it did pretty well.

    if you want to have a forum inside your membership site as an added value you can certainly do so.... big folks like jeff walker , brendon burchard all have forum onside their high priced offers and mention is as an FREE bonus ..
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  • Profile picture of the author CurtisSWN
    Things move rapidly on the Net, forums would seem be taken over by more flashier things like FB, Twitter, and now Pinterest; but forums seem to be going strong still. The social sites attract more of the shorter attention span crowd, albeit I always seem to have my FB page open...

    If there is a need, it will be filled. So far forums seem to do their job well.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Just be a major player in your field and you don't have to worry about been obsolete. We have seen it in Google, fb, PayPal, clickbank e.t.c.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Humans are social beings, so as long as you can attract members with like interests and provide compelling information along with some of the good advice given thus far, it is indeed feasible.

      Just be prepared to put in a lot of work, you know, like with a newborn baby.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dan J
    If you have a base of users/subscribers prior to creating a forum then yes, it will work great.

    But if you dont already have that base of users...you will find it difficult to make active unfortunately. =/
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  • Profile picture of the author MariamN
    I agree that making a forum roll so that new members will be register and keep it alove is very hard.. What you can do is creating a blog, get some subscribers and hugebtraffic, then create a forum and drive your readers there, they might like the idea of a forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author prismkuet
    Forum users and Facebook/twitter users are different types of people. For sure, you find most of the warriors pass few times in Facebook than this forum. People who are using Facebook is not your target customer. A forum, if can distinguish itself from the crowed, will soon get enough traffic on it. But the difficulties are;
    -For almost every niche
    -lot of forums are working, It's difficult to make your one popular,
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    Forum users and Facebook/twitter users are different types of people. For sure, you find most of the warriors pass few times in Facebook than this forum. People who are using Facebook is not your target customer. A forum, if can distinguish itself from the crowed, will soon get enough traffic on it. But the difficulties are;
    -For almost every niche
    -lot of forums are working, It's difficult to make your one popular,
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  • Profile picture of the author Woodward82
    There is another thread on here about this discussion I will try to find the link and post it later



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  • Profile picture of the author ErickColletti
    Originally Posted by Web Warrior View Post

    And I am asking this on a forum itself...

    Anyway, the thing is that I wanted to launch a forum in a broader niche, and when I consulted some of my friends, they were of the opinion that now people talk on twitter or FB or search something on Google or ask on Yahoo answers... In short, they tried to convince me that I would be wasting my time and money launching a forum... I think differently....

    What is your take on this, starting a NEW forum can work?
    Forums will never die.
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  • Profile picture of the author Web Warrior
    Now, after reading your replies, I think that I'm glad I asked this on this forum and didn't just rely on the advice of a few friends.
    Now I am positive about it but still not sure whether I can do it or not.

    Still, I'll try to keep you posted in case I go for it...

    Meanwhile, any other advice would be more than welcome...
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  • Forums have a sense of control for the end user, they feel apart of the community. Where Facebook and the like serves a different function. Facebook is growing beyond it's original idea but forums never do, they are more constant, people like constant. That is why forums will be around for a long time to come.
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  • Profile picture of the author Woodward82
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ote-forum.html

    There is a lot of good insight in this thread, Mike Tucker and others have some great advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You wouldn't be wasting your time. A forum is a great way to get a ton of traffic to your website. It's a catch 22 though. It's gonna take alot of work to make it successful, but you can definitely do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author sandman123
    Started a forum just over a year ago and making $200-$400PM on Adsense and $1000+PM with Amazon and then we also have sponsors, so I don't believe they'll ever die.
    Never used Twitter and don't have or ever intend to have a facebook account.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Curtis
      Originally Posted by sandman123 View Post

      Started a forum just over a year ago and making $200-$400PM on Adsense and $1000+PM with Amazon and then we also have sponsors, so I don't believe they'll ever die.
      Never used Twitter and don't have or ever intend to have a facebook account.
      Sometimes you look long and hard through thread after thread for anything unique and clever, and then suddenly a forum about TRACTORS! and he's taking it to the bank.

      This might be a good time for someone who hasn't had the success they would like to step back and see how this model could fit with something from their world.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andre Slater
    I never understood the point of forum's until I found WF. This is even better than facebook because people genuinely communicate and help out each other and the products are affordable to everyone. I have never even joined a forum except this one...
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  • Profile picture of the author domz
    The hard part on starting a forum is the work involved on getting people to join. It's easy to start it.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Ayling
    I don't think they're obsolete but better to be treated as a major enterprise that needs to be planned out carefully like a large authority site launch.

    Forums can attract an amazing amount of traffic and I really admire the webmasters that dedicate themselves to these forums - because that's what it needs. If you have 'focus issues', like a lot of us marketer types, then you need to think about whether you can really make it work in the long haul.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Originally Posted by Web Warrior View Post

    And I am asking this on a forum itself...

    ?
    http://topadmin.net/find-new/1631751/threads

    grab the free download in the top right, read it and check the boxes, it will answer your question
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    If you need CHEAP forum posters, let me know. I can get you forum posters for as little as 5 cents a post for 30 to 50 words per post. That translates to a .00125 base cost per word. Not bad, no?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by icoachu View Post

      If you need CHEAP forum posters, let me know. I can get you forum posters for as little as 5 cents a post for 30 to 50 words per post. That translates to a .00125 base cost per word. Not bad, no?
      Or, the OP can go to a site like Postloop where quality is pretty much guaranteed (your rating decides if you get paid), and pay the same prices .
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      • Profile picture of the author icoachu
        Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

        Or, the OP can go to a site like Postloop where quality is pretty much guaranteed (your rating decides if you get paid), and pay the same prices .
        As far as I can tell, Postloop doesn't deliver volume quickly though. Also, clients tell me if they want to pay for certain posts or not. It's all about QUALITY, ORIGINALITY and VOLUME
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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          Originally Posted by icoachu View Post

          As far as I can tell, Postloop doesn't deliver volume quickly though. Also, clients tell me if they want to pay for certain posts or not. It's all about QUALITY, ORIGINALITY and VOLUME
          They actually make a point of delivering quickly. Of course, it's not my service so I don't have to defend it. Best of luck selling yourself compared to them though ! Forum posting is how I made my first few bucks way back when, so if you can actually deliver what you say you're on your way.
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          • Profile picture of the author icoachu
            Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

            They actually make a point of delivering quickly. Of course, it's not my service so I don't have to defend it. Best of luck selling yourself compared to them though ! Forum posting is how I made my first few bucks way back when, so if you can actually deliver what you say you're on your way.
            Thanks, Joe for the encouragement and support. I am profoundly glad to get your support in promoting my forum promotion services. You are obviously a smart, accomplished, educated and brilliant man with a heart of gold. Your kind and warm words go a long way. May your wish of good luck be exactly what I need to push my business to even higher heights. Thank you, Joe.
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    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      Originally Posted by icoachu View Post

      If you need CHEAP forum posters, let me know. I can get you forum posters for as little as 5 cents a post for 30 to 50 words per post. That translates to a .00125 base cost per word. Not bad, no?
      buying on penny prices is not worth it, unless you do not mind crap, quality at an affordable rate is much better, people who quote rock bottom prices usually just peddle crap that costs you more in time to clean the junk up and more in money, as you just flushed your last lot down the loo.
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      • Profile picture of the author icoachu
        Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

        buying on penny prices is not worth it, unless you do not mind crap, quality at an affordable rate is much better, people who quote rock bottom prices usually just peddle crap that costs you more in time to clean the junk up and more in money, as you just flushed your last lot down the loo.
        While I can understand your position and see where you are coming from, I just have to say: NO, buddy. It doesn't work that way. You only pay for posts you like. That's what makes these services different. Just because you got burned in the past doesn't mean you have to get burned in the future. Also, don't paint low cost providers with the same brush. Sure, there are some bad ones in the bunch but there are also some gems in the pile. Just because YOU won't use it, doesn't mean NO ONE else should.
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        • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
          I've lately considered starting a forum - but I'd have to agree with most of the advice here - starting a forum without an existing fan base would be difficult.

          I was thinking more of developing an authority site or group of related/networked niche sites, building a large following first, then doing the forum more as a 'spin-off' of the existing community.

          Just my thoughts...
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        • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
          Originally Posted by icoachu View Post

          Just because YOU won't use it, doesn't mean NO ONE else should.
          you seem to be talking about an unnamed service ? so how do you know what I would do ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Andre Slater
    I think forums other than this one are pretty much dead. To have a great forum you need members and participation and a general subject that everyone likes. The only reason WF is so great is that there are a butt-load of members, great participation, and everyone loves money...

    Now forums have converted to facebook and twitter style. What facebook is, is a social forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Wisley
      I don't think forums will ever be obsolete. But, not all forums will be a success. A lot depends on what you put into it and the niche that the forum caters to. I have been in a couple of forums and they both did great because they provided what the people coming to the forum wanted. It people find what they are looking for and can associate with people of similar interest a forum can be very successful.

      Much success if you decide to go forward with your plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author therichb
    The more tools we ll have to promote, to say, to discuss, the more the traditional methods will go obsolete...

    Forums are still in use by millions of marketers & are a revenue generating streams that will stay in use for years to use, coz it allows direct speech said to whole world.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    You can actually cheat alot. I had a bot made for simple machines and vbulletin once that would auto populate members from a like forum, then it would autopopulate there threads.

    Then another bot that would show more people online than were and so forth.

    It's either that or run a wso or something like that with a forum as a bonus.

    It can be done and it is worth it. I see new membership forums going up all the time and there getting members.

    When someone tells you something is dead, find a twist to bring it back to life.
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    This looks like a useful bot that you have made.
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