Sick of Writing - How to make $$$?

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Hey All,

I've been making a *modest* full-time income as a content writer (~ $3,000/month) for the last 3 years but I think I've finally pushed myself too hard... I really don't want to do it anymore. I feel like writing for others just isn't the smartest way to make money online.

So, I'd like to get your opinion. What would be the best/quickest way to make money without "ewhoring"? I say quickest because I want to see results quickly so I can know whether or not I'm wasting my time - this is my sole source of income we're talking about.

FYI, I'm a talented writer and take great pride in that. If there's a way to turn my gift for writing into a more passive full-time income, that's what I want to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Allard
    Originally Posted by MariseMedia View Post

    FYI, I'm a talented writer and take great pride in that. If there's a way to turn my gift for writing into a more passive full-time income, that's what I want to do.

    -Pete
    What about teaching others how you've been able to make $3,000/month as a content writer? You could create a course or coaching program and offer it here as a WSO and start building a list. You could also market this other ways as well outside of this forum.

    For every successful content writer there are probably 50 people who tried it and failed.
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  • Profile picture of the author MayfairNoble
    Considering your wealth of writing experience have you considered turning your hand to product creation? You'll make a lot more money selling your own ebook, than you will writing it for someone else.

    You could also consider writing PLR content and selling that. Depending on how well it goes you could set up your own PLR content membership site and make a comfortable living off the membership fees.
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    • Profile picture of the author MariseMedia
      I can't tell you how many times I've considered writing ebooks and selling them. I've thought of doing a course as well.

      I'm the kind of person that's so afraid of wasting my time that I'd never take action without comments from great people like you guys. Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author force5
      Hi Pete

      I would say that the natural path would be to carry on writing but do it for your own benefit.

      You could do some books for Kindle, and a course on how you got to 3k a month writing would be good but that would have more support issues than you would get by selling books on the Kindle platform.

      Good luck whichever path you choose.

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  • Profile picture of the author jasonallvall
    Good content and good PR backlinks = page 1 on google. Find a niche and nail it. You will be making 3k a week not a month
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    • Profile picture of the author davegarcia939
      Originally Posted by jasonallvall View Post

      Good content and good PR backlinks = page 1 on google. Find a niche and nail it. You will be making 3k a week not a month
      I agree with you. Select a good niche and research for some keyword. Then start writing content targeting your keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author jerkul
    If you are that talented, expand your service by offering sales letter creation. There is a demand for that and you'll make more money per project.
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by MariseMedia View Post

    Hey All,

    I've been making a *modest* full-time income as a content writer (~ $3,000/month) for the last 3 years but I think I've finally pushed myself too hard... I really don't want to do it anymore. I feel like writing for others just isn't the smartest way to make money online.

    So, I'd like to get your opinion. What would be the best/quickest way to make money without "ewhoring"? I say quickest because I want to see results quickly so I can know whether or not I'm wasting my time - this is my sole source of income we're talking about.

    FYI, I'm a talented writer and take great pride in that. If there's a way to turn my gift for writing into a more passive full-time income, that's what I want to do.

    -Pete
    Well, being a service provider is the quickest way to make money online since you get paid via Paypal. Since you're tired of that, however, you could create a niche blog or a PLR store as a means to generate residual income. You could also do what some other people have suggested and get into product creation. Each of these things take time to set up and start earning, but at least you won't have to work for every dollar that you earn.

    Joey
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  • Profile picture of the author HostWind
    Certainly a book of some kind would be best. Find your spark again, write about that - and sell it! Easier said than done of course - but you can't give up now.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I don't think there is a "best" or really "quick" way to shift gears so maybe you should resign yourself to continuing the ewhoring while you find something else to do. Here are some possibilities:

    * Product creation
    * Get hooked up with Web designers and be their "in house" writer. You're still writing for others but if you work it right you'll make a lot more than $3000/mo.
    * Article syndication and affiliate promotion (See Alexa Smith's posts on this)
    * Self publish fiction and non-fiction on Kindle

    These are just a few ideas. I looked at Kindle a couple of years ago and foolishly rejected it because all the experts suggest selling your stuff for small money. But there's a gold mine there. Just as this forum has a robust marketplace (WSOs) for certain types of products with ready and willing buyers hanging around waiting for the next offer, Amazon has the same thing with Kindle. Only there, there are millions of hungry buyers.

    People don't seem to realize (I sure didn't right away) how powerful that is. As a Kindle author you get to fish in a pool where people are already looking for what you have. That saves you massive amounts of time and marketing effort.

    Of course, like any other "pool" or market you need to identify who your buyers are but that part is pretty easy because Amazon makes it easy to see what's popular and what's selling. And the good part is, Kindle is big and getting bigger all the time. More people buy Kindles every day and they want and need good content for them.

    In the last month I've decided it's time to actually do what I want to do, which is write fiction. I've been making the transition and it feels really good. Maybe it's something you should check out.
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    • Profile picture of the author MariseMedia
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      I don't think there is a "best" or really "quick" way to shift gears so maybe you should resign yourself to continuing the ewhoring while you find something else to do. Here are some possibilities:

      * Product creation
      * Get hooked up with Web designers and be their "in house" writer. You're still writing for others but if you work it right you'll make a lot more than $3000/mo.
      * Article syndication and affiliate promotion (See Alexa Smith's posts on this)
      * Self publish fiction and non-fiction on Kindle

      These are just a few ideas. I looked at Kindle a couple of years ago and foolishly rejected it because all the experts suggest selling your stuff for small money. But there's a gold mine there. Just as this forum has a robust marketplace (WSOs) for certain types of products with ready and willing buyers hanging around waiting for the next offer, Amazon has the same thing with Kindle. Only there, there are millions of hungry buyers.

      People don't seem to realize (I sure didn't right away) how powerful that is. As a Kindle author you get to fish in a pool where people are already looking for what you have. That saves you massive amounts of time and marketing effort.

      Of course, like any other "pool" or market you need to identify who your buyers are but that part is pretty easy because Amazon makes it easy to see what's popular and what's selling. And the good part is, Kindle is big and getting bigger all the time. More people buy Kindles every day and they want and need good content for them.

      In the last month I've decided it's time to actually do what I want to do, which is write fiction. I've been making the transition and it feels really good. Maybe it's something you should check out.
      Wow, this sounds like something I'd LOVE to do. I have several unfinished novels sitting on my laptop but never had the time to finish them. I've always gravitated toward fiction writing but didn't like the idea of waiting 6 months for a publisher like Tor to reply. If you have some tips you can share to save me from hours (or weeks) of frustration with this, I'd be happy to trade some writing services for your time/expertise.

      -Pete
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      • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
        Originally Posted by MariseMedia View Post

        Wow, this sounds like something I'd LOVE to do. I have several unfinished novels sitting on my laptop but never had the time to finish them. I've always gravitated toward fiction writing but didn't like the idea of waiting 6 months for a publisher like Tor to reply. If you have some tips you can share to save me from hours (or weeks) of frustration with this, I'd be happy to trade some writing services for your time/expertise.

        -Pete
        Heh, heh... I appreciate the offer. But writing is the last thing I need. There's a lot of free information out there. Just do a 'Kindle' search on this forum. There are lots of threads with great tips.
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        • Profile picture of the author Brant
          Hi Pete,

          As one burned-to-the-wick content writer to another (and I am impressed with your relative financial success at it), I would suggest the following:
          • Publish creative works of your own, written for yourself, via the Triond website
          • Create and maintain an AdSense (or similarly) monetized blog or a Squidoo Lens
          • Create a subscription-based website where you teach others about how to successfully make decent money as a writer
          • Write articles for Internet syndication
          • Subscribe (it's free!) to Angela Hoy's "Writer's Weekly" e-zine to find ideas and markets
          • Put together e-books with materials gleaned from your previous writing and research experiences and sell them online (including here as a Warrior at the Special Offers forum)
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          • Profile picture of the author MariseMedia
            Originally Posted by Portlandrocks View Post

            There is no need to completely switch gears. As a matter of fact you ALREADY have the answer sitting right under your nose!

            Here is what you are already really good at:

            Getting writing clients
            Providing quality service
            Knowing what a "good" article is

            Here are your assets:

            loads of clients (I am assuming)
            network for getting referrals
            lots of work

            Here is how to make instant money while cutting back on your writing:

            Move from being a freelancer to a business owner. Hire someone else to write while you focus on marketing the business. If you are making $3,000 a month from writing then you obviously know how to get work and deliver a good product. That is an asset you can use against future clients.

            If you really are making $3,000 a month then there are LOADS of writers out there who are reading your post wishing they could get some of that. That is an asset you can use against hiring writers.

            Combine your two assets, manage the middle and you could potentially double your earnings while writing much less.

            Note that I said you will be "writing" much less, not working much less. You are still going to have to put in the same amount of work, just leverage your assets and get the proper valuation for them.
            I tried this but it's waaay too much stress and too little payoff. I actually lost a handful of clients because the writers I used weren't reliable.
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    Create your own ebook on the subject where your feel comfortable (writing) and sell that. You can also create WSO about that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bright Future
    If you are a good writer then you have a really valuable advantage over many others - you won't have to outsource content creation in case you decide to develop your own websites. Then you can also learn slowly about seo and other ways of getting visitors to your site (or you can outsource it and use the money you have already earned to grow faster)
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  • Profile picture of the author MariseMedia
    I've decided to try my hand at PLR articles. I just put up a listing on Ebay (don't want to lay out $40 on a WSO until I know there's a strong market for this kind of stuff) for 157 top notch niche Appliance/audio related articles. Limited release (only 21 people can buy the package) for $20... That's a good price, right? This is my first time delving into PLR stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author MariseMedia
        Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

        In your looking to test things quickly to see if it converts or not then PLR is not the way to go, you still need to build a list since sales would be dismal with direct marketing.

        Listen to travlinguy, Kindle will yield you the quickest results if done correctly.
        Thanks Joseph and Travelinguy I'm going to check out Kindle tonight. No harm in trying every approach in this thread
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      • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
        There are risks in anything you do.

        But with that said.
        Use a platform that ranks such as Squidoo.
        Write Amazon product reviews with 12 modules or so per lens. Each module is one review, each review is 100 to 300 words.

        You wont need anything more than just a handful of back links to each lens. Really I am saying 20 or so with proper post penguin anchor text/non anchor text percentages.

        Keep your writing gigs and do this on the side until your income matches what you make now then split.

        Create 2 to 4 lenses per day and you could hit your goal in a few months.

        NOW!!!! For all the people who are going to yell at me with all caps saying 'Patrick are you nuts?' 'Have you lost your mine man??'

        Hear me out. I know that he won't own the Squidoo properties and so takes that risk.

        But, it costs nothing, they rank quickly and hold their rank without tons of work.

        Plus then he does not have the learning curve of getting good at SEO, WP, Backlinking etc...

        Then later on start building your own properties once you have your income replaced.

        Only my 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    Fiverr and the bargain basement section of Odesk have put the pressure on writers from "developed" countries. See what you can do to add value to your writing services and push that. Other than that, while you're doing work for clients, create a huge network of blogs and seed it with your content and continue to "water" your blog garden with backlinks and generate nice traffic as time progresses. Milk as much income from your blog network by building a list and filtering it with funnel lists within lists. To some writers this is too much work but faced with slow starvation, you'd be surprised how motivated people can get
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    • Profile picture of the author MariseMedia
      Originally Posted by icoachu View Post

      Fiverr and the bargain basement section of Odesk have put the pressure on writers from "developed" countries. See what you can do to add value to your writing services and push that. Other than that, while you're doing work for clients, create a huge network of blogs and seed it with your content and continue to "water" your blog garden with backlinks and generate nice traffic as time progresses. Milk as much income from your blog network by building a list and filtering it with funnel lists within lists. To some writers this is too much work but faced with slow starvation, you'd be surprised how motivated people can get
      Thanks. Yea, I know how tough the competition is... people seem to care more about their pocketbook than the quality of the writing their buying. I'm the best writer I've come across (and very modest ) but I can't stand when clients approach me and ask if I'll write articles for $4 or $5 each. I'll be much happier writing for myself if I can get one of my new enterprises to take off.

      I'm going to be launching a PLR subscription service: ~200 top quality PLR articles per month for $20 membership fee. In addition to the PLR articles, I'll be promoting rewriting services (to make them original) for $1 per article. I've got a pretty wide network of decent writers from developing countries that would be more than happy to rephrase sentences for $.50 or $1 each if I offered them volume. I wouldn't trust them to write original articles but they'd do a bang up job paraphrasing
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