Old Writer Headed in a Slightly Different Direction - Advice Needed

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I've been a ghostwriter for a very long time - more than ten years. A couple of years ago, I ran into a problem that was very big. I started experiencing intense pain in my hands and wrists. I thought it was carpal tunnel syndrome or arthritis, so I ignored it for as long as possible, but eventually had to see a doctor. It turns out that I have Lupus, and in diagnosing this, other health problems were also discovered.

This drastically changed things for me, as a writer. I don't function well with speech-to-text programs. Luckily, my husband makes a decent living, so working is not a requirement in terms of finances, but it is important for me to feel useful, and to do the things that I love to do.

I explained the situation to my clients, finished up pending work, and took almost two years off from freelancing. During that two years, I was visiting a doctor at least three times a month, working to get things under control with my health, and I find that I am finally able to get back to work.

I am not, however, able to work in the same way that I did before. I can't churn out x number of articles in x number of days, and I certainly cannot guarantee that I can finish work by a set deadline. My health situation is under control, but it hasn't gone away. I still have Lupus flares from time to time, so in all honesty, I cannot be counted on to meet deadlines and things of this nature, because I don't know when a flare is going to occur, how bad it will be, or how long it will last. For this, and a number of other reasons, I'm not interested in long term clients.

At the same time, writing is what I love, and writing is what I do. I've started working through vWorker again, only taking one or two jobs on at a time, and only those jobs that do not have too many articles...jobs that I know I can complete without a problem on the same day that I get the job.

I've recently discovered iWriter, and I love the site concept, and it works very well for me. The pay sucks, but I've almost reached the point where I can take the better paying articles, and again, the amount of money I earn isn't as important to me, personally, as my ability to earn the money that I want or need is, if that makes sense.

Unfortunately, I have a hard time finding articles there that I am interested in writing, and when I do, I note that the requester rejects more often than they approve, and I avoid those jobs. Yesterday, I felt great and I was amped to get some work done. I found a whopping three articles to write at iWriter...and that was pretty much it. I was disappointed - and bored. I also just started an account at Constant Content, which is a different platform, but I like the concept.

I know most of you will suggest creating my own information products and things of that nature, and I'm already formulating a plan for that, but that is a separate issue from this one, and really not one that I'm as interested in pursuing at this point in time.

Here is the advice that I need. Am I wasting time with a platform like Constant Content or iWriter? Are there specific sites similar to iWriter or Constant Content that I should consider, with my health situation in mind, that you, as a marketer use to obtain your content? What I want is to be able to write, when I am able to write, without too much deadline pressure, and I want to get paid for it - without having to create a product to do it at this time - and preferably not for private clients.

Advice? Thanks in Advance!

Shyley MacFarland
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    To me it's simple given the constraints. You can't work on deadlines and you like to write about topics that interest you.

    Write articles in good niches that interest you and sell them as PLR. A good PLR writer can make more per article than a freelancer often if their articles are popular niches and well written and researched.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    I'd go with Suzanne's suggestion, but your own products would be better if at all possible. I don't really see that as a separate kind of writing at all. If anything, it is even more beneficial than writing for clients. You set the deadlines, and the long term income is much better than any article is going to make you at any of the sites you have mentioned so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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    Originally Posted by ShyleyMacFarland View Post


    . . . . Unfortunately, I have a hard time finding articles there that I am interested in writing . . . .

    Shyley MacFarland

    Hi Shyley, sorry to hear of your health problems but happy to hear they've improved somewhat. Perhaps if you say what type and subject of articles really interest you, some further constructive advice could be forthcoming . . . other than the sound recommendations of sbucciarel and Joe Robinson.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShyleyMacFarland
    In terms of the types of articles that I prefer and the subjects, I like to write articles that are not overly long, on topics that fall into categories such as healthcare, education, family, personal finance, pets, gardening, and so on. I hate articles based on specific products like rugs or iPods. I guess I'm trying to say that I like articles that are truly informational, even if they are used to sell a product, as opposed to articles that really just sell a product without being useful for any other purpose, on a huge range of topics.

    As to why I'm not as interested in product creation...creating PLR articles or other informational products would be very easy for me to do, and therefore, this is a logical way to go. What stops me dead in my tracks is that once the product is created, it has to be sold. I'm a good writer. I would be a horrible marketer. The very thought of marketing a product makes me uncomfortable. I realize that I can learn how to market, but I am a shy person, and I've always found that I'm most happy and comfortable quietly working behind the scenes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by ShyleyMacFarland View Post

      In terms of the types of articles that I prefer and the subjects, I like to write articles that are not overly long, on topics that fall into categories such as healthcare, education, family, personal finance, pets, gardening, and so on. I hate articles based on specific products like rugs or iPods. I guess I'm trying to say that I like articles that are truly informational, even if they are used to sell a product, as opposed to articles that really just sell a product without being useful for any other purpose, on a huge range of topics.
      Those topics are covered pretty often, and would once again be prime niches to create PLR in. Then you don't have to worry about catching them when they come up on the freelance sites. Your real competition would be how well you position yourself.

      If you're dead set on not writing PLR or products for yourself though, I'd probably say that Constant Content is your best bet. Writing requested material is certainly one way to go, but you can also just write on the topics that interest you and put them into the marketplace. I believe that the site's welcome PDF says that they sell 80%+ of the content posted there (I haven't read or been to the site in a bit, so double check before holding me to that number ).

      Originally Posted by ShyleyMacFarland View Post

      As to why I'm not as interested in product creation...creating PLR articles or other informational products would be very easy for me to do, and therefore, this is a logical way to go. What stops me dead in my tracks is that once the product is created, it has to be sold. I'm a good writer. I would be a horrible marketer. The very thought of marketing a product makes me uncomfortable. I realize that I can learn how to market, but I am a shy person, and I've always found that I'm most happy and comfortable quietly working behind the scenes.
      Luckily, you're in pretty much the best place around to learn the marketing aspect of it. If you absolutely don't want to handle that part, a Joint Venture could be very beneficial to you. Even after the agreed upon split, you're still looking at a nice income if you find the right person and create quality products.

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      • Profile picture of the author ShyleyMacFarland
        Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

        Those topics are covered pretty often, and would once again be prime niches to create PLR in. Then you don't have to worry about catching them when they come up on the freelance sites. Your real competition would be how well you position yourself.

        If you're dead set on not writing PLR or products for yourself though, I'd probably say that Constant Content is your best bet. Writing requested material is certainly one way to go, but you can also just write on the topics that interest you and put them into the marketplace. I believe that the site's welcome PDF says that they sell 80%+ of the content posted there (I haven't read or been to the site in a bit, so double check before holding me to that number ).



        Luckily, you're in pretty much the best place around to learn the marketing aspect of it. If you absolutely don't want to handle that part, a Joint Venture could be very beneficial to you. Even after the agreed upon split, you're still looking at a nice income if you find the right person and create quality products.
        Thank you. That has definitely given me food for thought. I had not considered joint venturing, and I guess that going in that direction would allow me to still remain quietly in the background, writing articles that make me happy...That uncomfortable feeling at the thought of having to sell the product that lives in the pit of my stomach just eased up a bit!

        I think I just got excited about this prospect - which means that you must be a great marketer LOL! I'll start doing some research on this possibility right away.

        I'm also happy to have the positive information concerning Constant Content.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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          Well there ya go, get to work!

          Originally Posted by ShyleyMacFarland View Post

          think I just got excited about this prospect - which means that you must be a great marketer LOL! I'll start doing some research on this possibility right away.
          I'm pretty much awesome, and people say I'm the best at everything ever. Which people? Let's not concern ourselves with that....
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          • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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            Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

            Well there ya go, get to work!

            I'm pretty much awesome, and people say I'm the best at everything ever. Which people? Let's not concern ourselves with that....

            There's no business like show business . . . :p
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            • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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              Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

              There's no business like show business . . . :p
              Especially with a face like mine!

              *Waits for inevitable comeback*
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            • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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              Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

              There's no business like show business . . . :p
              Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

              Especially with a face like mine!

              *Waits for inevitable comeback*

              Oh, if you insist Joe. Don't want to get on the wrong side of you now, do I?



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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Curses. My true identity has been revealed!
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    • OP, have you looked at any of the lupus blogs? There are a lot of them. It seems many of these (mostly) women are in the same situation you are: their health is stable, though they still have the disease, and they're trying to figure out how to be useful and keep busy.

      I know you're not a marketer but I am, and to me this screams opportunity. An opportunity to not only help yourself but help others too. That's one of our mantras here: You'll start making money when you figure out how to help other people.

      Some of the larger and most widely-read mommy blogs are collaborations among four to twelve writers, so why not a living with lupus blog powered by a stable of writers? I'd start it myself if I didn't have so many other projects going. What a great chance to raise awareness of the challenges faced by those with autoimmune diseases and promote positive thinking.

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      • Profile picture of the author ShyleyMacFarland
        Fluffythewondercat, I've never actually spent a lot of time reading Lupus related blogs - mainly just medical websites about Lupus, but this is certainly another wonderful idea, and possibly one that I would do really well with. I'll definitely be putting this on my 'research right away' list along with Joe and Suzanne's idea.

        Two ideas that you would think might have occurred to me much earlier, but somehow escaped me! Let's just mark the cause of that down to lupus fog...and we won't mention my inability to think outside of the box
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Shyley, you've been given some good suggestions. I hope this strikes you as another...

        Have you considered writing for the Kindle/Nook platforms? As you say the satisfaction and accomplishment are more important than the money, the marketing of these ebooks can be minimal. Putting up the books themselves and sending a few announcements can get the ball rolling. Then you can focus on building your catalog, simply sending announcements for new titles and adding an 'Other Books by Shyley' page to existing titles.

        Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

        Especially with a face like mine!

        *Waits for inevitable comeback*
        Don't worry about it, Joe. There's nothing wrong with having a face made for radio...
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        • Profile picture of the author ShyleyMacFarland
          Thanks John! Another great idea for the list of possibilities!
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    I don't think anyone's mentioned dailyarticle.com. You can write about what you want, when you want and set the price you want to sell for.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    I am going to go against the grain.

    Why articles? And, why working for others?

    How about redirecting your writing skills into materials created for "your profit," which in turn will allow you to work on "your schedule."

    You could do as I have done. I am not ghost writing anymore. Now I create reports that I sell, and I write reports that I sell as books on the Kindle platform.

    In both cases, I profit directly from my own work, and the only deadlines I have are the ones that I set for myself.

    Just some more food for thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    You know it really makes me feel better when I read threads like this. You guys have posted some really good advice. What I hope is other warriors looking for ideas will take the time to drop in and read the entire thread.

    Shyley, thank you for posting such a well written post.

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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman View Post

      What I hope is other warriors looking for ideas will take the time to drop in and read the entire thread
      If they did that what would would we talk/argue/whine about tomorrow?!
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    Given the parameters you spelled out and the fact your husband works, why not just blog? I don't mean to sound harsh but you want to work for others but want a ton of flexibility and other goodies that frankly, in this age of hypercompetition in the content creation space, takes you out of the competition. Why not step out of your comfort zone and devote all those years' of precious experience into a blog that would put your brand on the map? Isn't it time to TRULY become your own boss?

    Fiverr.com has a lot of $5 for 1500 words ads and they are continue to ramp up. Even higher paying ad copywriting and technical writing jobs are under pressure from low cost companies that employ three tiered editing structures. There is a RACE TO THE BOTTOM in terms of pay, benefits, and deadlines. The question is: will you continue to keep looking to preserve your precarious situation or use this as an opportunity to STEP UP to higher levels in the food chain?
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    • Profile picture of the author ShyleyMacFarland
      icoachu - Thanks for the reply, and you are absolutely right. I should see this as an opportunity instead of a problem. Blogging has been mentioned, and it is definitely on the consideration list.

      I've been given three excellent ideas in this thread, which I have spent the majority of the day thinking about and researching. I'm actually interested in all three, and all three are obvious solutions (opportunities) for me in my current situation. But what is best about these ideas is that I can actually do all three...I don't have to choose just one. I just have to choose one at a time

      I also have the luxury of not having to bring in money right this minute because I have the emotional and financial support of my wonderful husband. We discussed the possibilities at length today (he's a wonderful sounding board), and his take was exactly what I just said..."Why can't you just do all three? If you are excited by all three, just do all three, but don't do them all at once - do them as you are able to, from a health standpoint."

      So I am formulating a plan, figuring out what I need to do for each project, deciding which one to work on first, and the only thing my husband has requested (and rightly so), is that I work within a budget on these projects. He is, at this very moment, looking at our current budget to determine how much we can afford each month to work on these projects, and I am working on a list of projected or potential expenses for each project.

      We both agreed that expense #1 should be the $37 membership here at this forum - especially if the help that I received here today is any indication of the help that is available in that 'secret room.'
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      • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
        Sorry to hear you have a chronic condition. That does make this difficult, although fortunately, not impossible.

        I believe that the Kindle ebooks would really be a good match for you, doing them as you are capable to commit the time because you are your own boss and the timelines set can be your own. Besides Kindle, those ebooks can go on various other sites as well, such as Barnes and Noble, etc. As you are doing an ebook, set up a blog for it and keep new articles on the blog coming fairly often to gain a readership.

        Do join the War Room. You will have a lot of reading and downloading to do with giveaways that will help you learn to market your work. There is a lot to know, but I've always felt that if I could get the hang of it, so can anyone else. Just do not let yourself be overwhelmed by the amount of information you find. Get that blog up, write the ebooks, social networking, press releases, blog comment, guest post, blog in signature where forums permit, etc. etc. The War Room is an enormous and helpful resource.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

          If they did that what would would we talk/argue/whine about tomorrow?!
          Proofreading? :p
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