Would this completely free set-up be "sufficient"?

by Emaloy97 Banned
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So Ive been reading a lot about micro niche adsense sites and authority sites, and i think that is the way i want to go. To test it out, here was the method i had planned:

Hosting: 000webhost.com (or whatever) = Free

Domain: Use a free .co.cc/.cu.cc domain and point the nameservers to free host = Free

Install wordpress into my hosting so that i will be able to use helpful plugins.

Now i realize this has its limitations, but just to test this area of IM, would it work?

A couple of other questions:

Would the free domain rank comparably in search engines? (i still plan on having most of my traffic from articles and youtube)

Will adsense ban me for doing this? (might sound dumb but i'd prefer to be on the safe side.

Thanks for any input!
#completely #free #setup #sufficient
  • Profile picture of the author Leo Wadsworth
    It will be a bit harder to rank the sites this way, but the smaller the niche the easier it will be to rank (although it will also have less traffic overall).

    The free sites will cut you off if you get any significant traffic - but again, if you go for tiny micro niches, that is less of a problem. Unfortunately, it takes significant traffic to make any real money, so you would end up having to make a lot more micro niche sites to compensate. Creating lots of sites would violate the terms of use for the free hosting.

    This doesn't violate any AdSense policies, so as long as you keep the implementation clean as well, it sounds like the cheapest possible way to do some testing and learning. Long term you'll want to go a bit more conventional, but it lets you try things out cheaply.
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    • Profile picture of the author Emaloy97
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      Thanks for the quick reply leo!
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      • Profile picture of the author fin
        I would buy a proper domain name. Don't waste your time building a business with a free one.

        But everything else sounds fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    I have heard some good things about 000webhost.com
    I do not know much about free domain names but I do know namecheap is highly recommended.
    Make sure you do NOT register a domain and host with the same company.
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  • Profile picture of the author briantymes
    I can understand that you are trying to do this for free, but you can find hosting account online these days for about 10 per month, and then you can create sub-domains of your own and you won't have to worry about the free sites closing you down.

    Also you will have an advantage over the free domains you can get, because you will have the ability to get one .com name, which will provide you with better rankings in the search engines.
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    • Profile picture of the author Emaloy97
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      Originally Posted by DWaters View Post

      I have heard some good things about 000webhost.com
      I do not know much about free domain names but I do know namecheap is highly recommended.
      Make sure you do NOT register a domain and host with the same company.
      Alright. Whats the reasoning behind not having a domain and host in the same place?
      Originally Posted by briantymes View Post

      I can understand that you are trying to do this for free, but you can find hosting account online these days for about 10 per month, and then you can create sub-domains of your own and you won't have to worry about the free sites closing you down.

      Also you will have an advantage over the free domains you can get, because you will have the ability to get one .com name, which will provide you with better rankings in the search engines.
      Yeah but I asked if the setup would work not if its a good idea.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Emaloy97 View Post

        Whats the reasoning behind not having a domain and host in the same place?
        Well, the forum (just like many other IM forums) is full of "horror stories" of the unforeseen "accidents" (some of them in fact "disasters") which people could so easily have avoided simply by registering and hosting in two different places. Having the registration and the hosting in the same place is really very inadvisable. In a sense, admittedly, it only really matters if/when something goes wrong. (But, as we all know, that "only happens all the time").

        If your host isn't also your registrar, then in the event of any accident/problem, if anything ever goes wrong with your hosting, you're in control, not them. And can avoid nightmares, disasters, long delays and entirely unexpected "ransom demands". And can re-host your site somewhere else the next day, minimising the commercial interruption.

        Brad expresses it very well, with several well-known examples, in this post.

        It's one of those issues which so many people look at and think to themselves "Eew, well, those are all other people and they must have done something wrong: it wouldn't ever happen to me".

        Until someone on one of their lists reports them, even with absolutely no justification at all, to their host for alleged "spamming" and their website disappears and the host (in accordance with its TOS which few people have ever read all the way through at the time they registered the domain) suddenly wants hundreds of dollars to release the domain so they can get it back online somewhere else.

        As a search of this forum will show, GoDaddy, in particular, is notorious for causing major problems and interruptions to its clients' businesses in this regard. But it can be done even by some "good hosts", too!

        The point is that "whether something goes wrong" may not be within your own control - it can be just fairly random.

        Paul Myers' comment in this thread is significant, also.

        Originally Posted by Emaloy97 View Post

        I asked if the setup would work not if its a good idea.
        Well, there you go: people around here are very helpful, and you sometimes get even more information and opinion than you've asked for.

        For myself, I agree entirely with Jamie, above: it all sounds perfectly alright apart from the sort of domain name you're planning to use. For the sake of $3 for a .info domain name (which is a top-level international domain and ranks just like any other), I wouldn't do it the exact way you're proposing and would recommend that you change the plan to include a proper domain.

        Also, there could be a slight difficulty with the specific free host you suggest: the last I heard (which wasn't long ago), on their free hosting the one-click Wordpress installer was "down" and they didn't have a date for when it would be fixed. So, if you have the know-how to do a manual installation that isn't a problem, but otherwise it is. For myself, I might look at Hostica instead (where hosting one site on one domain name costs $1 per month). But, again, you didn't ask that ...
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        • Profile picture of the author Emaloy97
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          I can install wordpress manually, thats not a problem.

          If i get paid hosting, I'm looking a Brainhost. .99 a month for 5 domains.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by Emaloy97 View Post

            I can install wordpress manually, thats not a problem.
            Cool ... under those circumstances, my own first choice would be Byethost.com. I know people who've been using their free hosting successfully for many years. They're a good host. They sell their paid upgrades by impressing people with the free service, rather than by frustrating them with it and making them want something better. It's a better business model, I think. And they don't put any advertising buttons or anything nasty/unprofessional on your pages. (I know 000WebHost also don't).

            Originally Posted by Emaloy97 View Post

            If i get paid hosting, I'm looking a Brainhost. .99 a month for 5 domains.
            I haven't heard of that one. Which makes me feel "cautious" about it, and would make me want to see objective, unincentivized reviews about matters like how long they've been in business, what their down-time's been like over the last 3 years, and so on. But maybe you've already done this ... good luck!
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            • Profile picture of the author Emaloy97
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              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              Cool ... under those circumstances, my own first choice would be Byethost.com. I know people who've been using their free hosting successfully for many years. They're a good host. They sell their paid upgrades by impressing people with the free service, rather than by frustrating them with it and making them want something better. It's a better business model, I think. And they don't put any advertising buttons or anything nasty/unprofessional on your pages. (I know 000WebHost also don't).



              I haven't heard of that one. Which makes me feel "cautious" about it, and would make me want to see objective, unincentivized reviews about matters like how long they've been in business, what their down-time's been like over the last 3 years, and so on. But maybe you've already done this ... good luck!
              Just signed up for byethost, and I'm looking for BrainHost reviews.
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      • Profile picture of the author briantymes
        Originally Posted by Emaloy97 View Post

        Alright. Whats the reasoning behind not having a domain and host in the same place?


        Yeah but I asked if the setup would work not if its a good idea.
        Yes it it possible to set things up like this, however the chances of being profitable using the system you have explained above will be low. Not to mention, you will most likely not be able to build an authority site using any .co.cc/.cu.cc domain name.
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