List building advice please

by carolf
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Would you share your list building wisdom with me.

I have around 200 subscribers and just over 3k facebook fans

I use aweber. Here are the links to my pages

https://www.facebook.com/CarolFinlaysonCoaching?ref=hl
Carol Finlayson - How To Be Happy

if you have any advice to share with me about increasing my list Id be beyond words of grateful. I have a free report on my website called Dream Your Way To Happiness that people get when the sign up.

Cheers from Carol
#advice #building #list
  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    The book image is very amateurish and the title totally uninspiring.

    There is no 'what's in it for me' message.

    No over-riding benefit laden headline
    to inspire.

    The audio player is barely noticable.

    What kind of conversion are you getting from visit to subscribe?

    All those things should be easy to fix.

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author carolf
    helisell I cant thank you enough for your straigh talking feedback.

    I have the wonderful Di Heuser helping me now and thinks are improving daily.

    The honest answer is I dont know to your last question. getting google analyticals to actually work is high on my agenda... I had a redesign done a while ago and the designer said the design of the site is custom made....... its also custom bloody hard to get much to work on it now...
    Di is going to help revamp the site ie removing the blog from the front page. I appreciate what you say re the book cover and would love a recommendation if anyone knows a good book cover designer
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  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    dream up a better title and I'll make you a nice book cover gratis
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    • Profile picture of the author carolf
      outrageously generous offer that I will bite your hand off for ....... you landing page on your website has certainly inspired me. The advice in the thread is worth a fortune
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    • Originally Posted by helisell View Post

      dream up a better title and I'll make you a nice book cover gratis
      WOW I would definatly take him up on this offer. He seems to know what he is talking about.

      A good title and a catchy headline and a snappy design may be just what you are looking for to increase conversions
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      • Profile picture of the author carolf
        Originally Posted by ExpertSEOServices View Post

        WOW I would definatly take him up on this offer. He seems to know what he is talking about.

        A good title and a catchy headline and a snappy design may be just what you are looking for to increase conversions

        believe me I have never snapped up anything so fast in my life and I intend to book an hour of his time next month...... dealing with a major operation this month.

        Also getting some work done on the site too.

        I have found a product that has transformed my relationship with my husband and I am going to base my emails on that work and include affiliate links to the product.

        I also have a plan for a new product for myself.

        A guide for success in early dating and then how to keep the relationship sweet.

        I have never had a coaching niche but now I am learning the power of target marketing and I am doing tons more offline marketing .......
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Lee Jr
    Hi Carol

    Nice Website

    However:

    1. I would go for a better e-book cover
    2. Also use a plugin like pop up domination so your e-book will be the first thing your visitor will see
    -Or-

    - Put the e-book on a separate page, and drive traffic directly to that page. Sometimes when there are several things going on at your website - your visitor sometimes will not know what to do because there is so many things going on at once.

    List building often works better when the visitor is driven to a page that only allows them to join your list.

    Fanpage: Make a tab that has a cover of your ebook, and have that displayed automatically when visitors come to your fanpage. I recommend having it the second tab after photos.

    You can also drive traffic directly to the url of that tab as well.

    Those are a few things that should help you Carol - Good luck with your List Building
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    • Profile picture of the author carolf
      Originally Posted by Martin Lee Jr View Post

      Hi Carol

      Nice Website

      However:

      1. I would go for a better e-book cover
      2. Also use a plugin like pop up domination so your e-book will be the first thing your visitor will see
      -Or-

      - Put the e-book on a separate page, and drive traffic directly to that page. Sometimes when there are several things going on at your website - your visitor sometimes will not know what to do because there is so many things going on at once.

      List building often works better when the visitor is driven to a page that only allows them to join your list.

      Fanpage: Make a tab that has a cover of your ebook, and have that displayed automatically when visitors come to your fanpage. I recommend having it the second tab after photos.

      You can also drive traffic directly to the url of that tab as well.

      Those are a few things that should help you Carol - Good luck with your List Building
      The genius that is Di Heuser is helping me Mark I will show her you suggestions and I cant thank you enough. These are fab
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Are you making any money from the 200 subscribers you have? Why are you making people have to click to reach your ebook autoresponder form? Put the form on the front page of your site. How much money are you willing to invest into advertising? It needs to be alot.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
    Originally Posted by carolf View Post

    Would you share your list building wisdom with me.

    I have around 200 subscribers and just over 3k facebook fans

    I use aweber. Here are the links to my pages

    https://www.facebook.com/CarolFinlaysonCoaching?ref=hl
    Carol Finlayson - How To Be Happy

    if you have any advice to share with me about increasing my list Id be beyond words of grateful. I have a free report on my website called Dream Your Way To Happiness that people get when the sign up.

    Cheers from Carol
    My antivirus went crazy when I went to one of those sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    well now you have a list, find out what your list likes or what they need and then create a product for them

    you could even set up an affiliate program so that other people drive you traffic to your product to build your list

    building your list is all well and good but you have to have some kind of funnel for everyone to go through

    unless you have a good sals funnel already set up and you have a clear laid out plan on exactly what your going to do with your subscribers, generating more people into your list won`t be very productive

    i looked at your fb page and it looks fine but your other page gave me a "threat warning" so it was blocked by my comp

    if you havent already got products of your own in your funnel i would create some and then you can progress from there

    paul
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  • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
    I cant even remove these viruses from my computer and I got eset and malwarebytes. F#@$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by bigballin6161 View Post

      I cant even remove these viruses from my computer and I got eset and malwarebytes. F#@$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Wasn't from one of her sites... I have all those programs too and nothing. You may have contracted it long before visiting her site.
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      • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
        Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

        Wasn't from one of her sites... I have all those programs too and nothing. You may have contracted it long before visiting her site.
        As soon as i clicked it it happened. I cant even remove them either ffs
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
          Originally Posted by bigballin6161 View Post

          As soon as i clicked it it happened. I cant even remove them either ffs
          There are some viruses that are dormant for quite a while as in months before they are "active" ... I had one and it was brutal, took me 30+ hours to get rid of it.. Kept restarting my computer. It wasn't the site I visited but was in fact the Sirefef virus.
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          • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
            Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

            There are some viruses that are dormant for quite a while as in months before they are "active" ... I had one and it was brutal, took me 30+ hours to get rid of it.. Kept restarting my computer. It wasn't the site I visited but was in fact the Sirefef virus.
            Sirefef! Thats the one i got! How u get rid of it?
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
              Originally Posted by bigballin6161 View Post

              Sirefef! Thats the one i got! How u get rid of it?

              Bleeping Computer - Computer Help and Discussion ...

              Search the forum for that particular virus, post a new thread and one of the guys there will help you. They were so helpful I sent them a $100 donation... Seriously, I thought I was going to have to buy a new computer and lose months and months of work.
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              • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
                Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

                Bleeping Computer - Computer Help and Discussion ...

                Search the forum for that particular virus, post a new thread and one of the guys there will help you. They were so helpful I sent them a $100 donation... Seriously, I thought I was going to have to buy a new computer and lose months and months of work.
                Thanks man! The antiviruses could not remove it but did a system restore and it worked thank god! Thought it was reformat time!
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
                  Originally Posted by bigballin6161 View Post

                  Thanks man! The antiviruses could not remove it but did a system restore and it worked thank god! Thought it was reformat time!
                  You're lucky.. My system had no system restore and came with no recover disks so it took a while and a lot of tools to debug this thing. What a nightmare. I run Malwarebytes, WinPatrol, Hijackthis and Security Essentials... Plus I run CCleaner every few days now too and use Revo uninstaller when I need a program completely gone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrey Adison
    Create a seperate (squeeze) page just for the ebook. Your site is nice but not for the purpose of getting subscribers.. There are too many distractions.

    Also there should be an opt-in box at the top above where says "Send My Copy" instead of making people click to then see the opt-in box.
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  • Profile picture of the author WesBlaylock
    A few suggestions..

    - At the end of your blog posts, you (in most of the posts atleast) have a call to action which says something like "Connect with me on Facebook", but nothing about your email list- probably why you have 3k fans and 200 subs.. Focus more on your list.

    - Create an actual squeeze page for your newsletter that focuses solely on it and promote it throughout your blog (on the side bar, at the end of every posts, etc..)..

    - Use a Facebook tab to promote your newsletter signup form as well and have the tab the first one displayed after the "Photos" tab so that your Facebook fans can find it easily..

    - The copy is more important than the ecover. Like the others above said, what does your freebie actually do for the visitor?

    - Your list is more important than Facebook fans, so redesign your site to get subscribers instead of Facebook fans. Once you have subscribers, it is easy to turn them into Facebook fans, or Twitter followers, etc..

    Wes Blaylock
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    Build a twitter feed (customize it with your site's look and feel so everything is consistent with your overall brand) and set up a tool that that posts Happiness/Self-improvement/Self-Awareness quotes on the #quotes channel. Put your list squeeze page link on there. Promote your twitter feed on your site and on your mail outs.

    Your main site doesn't clearly and effectively grab the reader by the eyeballs and in less than 3 seconds convey your value proposition. Remember, Net users have ADHD, you have to hit them in a very short amount of time or they will bounce out of your site quicker than a Justin Bieber fan gets beaten down in a Slayer concert.
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    • Profile picture of the author carolf
      Originally Posted by TomYevsikov View Post

      Hey I really like the site & the niche, well done!

      yep I think you could Improve the E-book cover & a big benefit inside "send my copy" page.

      something that will tell them like: "Hey guys, the **** is good for you because **** and it can also do ***** so grab it now while it is still *****"

      That's just my two cents
      Originally Posted by icoachu View Post

      Build a twitter feed (customize it with your site's look and feel so everything is consistent with your overall brand) and set up a tool that that posts Happiness/Self-improvement/Self-Awareness quotes on the #quotes channel. Put your list squeeze page link on there. Promote your twitter feed on your site and on your mail outs.

      Your main site doesn't clearly and effectively grab the reader by the eyeballs and in less than 3 seconds convey your value proposition. Remember, Net users have ADHD, you have to hit them in a very short amount of time or they will bounce out of your site quicker than a Justin Bieber fan gets beaten down in a Slayer concert.
      not only do I aodre your rocking advice but you also make me giggle.....:p fanks
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  • Profile picture of the author TomYevsikov
    Hey I really like the site & the niche, well done!

    yep I think you could Improve the E-book cover & a big benefit inside "send my copy" page.

    something that will tell them like: "Hey guys, the **** is good for you because **** and it can also do ***** so grab it now while it is still *****"

    That's just my two cents
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  • Profile picture of the author carolf
    Sorry I m just getting back to you all now.... been away !

    First of all guys seriously !!!!!! I am knocked sidewides by your help and fantastic suggestions.

    I am setting aside a couple of days next week to knuckle down to sorting out the website issues.

    Helisel that is an awesome offer thank you so much. Once I get a new name for my free book Ill give you a shout ........... so generous thanks!

    ps re the virus I had a few notes telling me there was a virus on my site but I had the woman that does my hosting check it over plus she asked the technical dudes to check it and nada

    my computer had the security sheild vrus a while ago and super antispyware was able to get rid of it
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    Don't liked the Cover page and also the title. Sorry mam but its not catchy at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author carolf
    thats ok the reason I come here is to learn and improve

    so the free book is a guide to creating a vision board and its called Dream Your Way To Happiness

    none of you like the title or the cover and the amazing mr helisel has offered to create me a cover if I come up with a bettet name

    HELP ME lol

    how do you like

    How To Create A Dream Board
    A step by step guide to kickstarting your dream life

    if you can do better than please doooooooooooooooo
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  • Profile picture of the author NezNezAt5
    Carolf!! I tried to look at your site and I got virus!!
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  • Profile picture of the author carolf
    I have had this message from other ! I am really sorry but I have asked a few technical genuis to look at it and the assure me there is no virus on my website........ so I am bloody stuck as I have no idea but if you read the top of this message Mike Hill also says its not my site thats doing it
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    • Profile picture of the author carolf
      you are correct I do not have much traffic. For ages I was working non stop on getting traffic and it was working but then I was making no money as a coach as I was spending so much time on the website. So now I am coaching and making money but I want some passive income too....... I hear you about the traffic....... I only started last year so its going quite well but there is a ton of room for growth
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    • Profile picture of the author carolf
      yes your right I do need a proper reveal page on my fb page... I think I sort of have one that a guy on fiverr did for me but I dont think its quite what you mean........ anyone create a fabulous reveal page for me?
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    • Profile picture of the author carolf
      THANKS :0 again
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  • Profile picture of the author Vasilev
    Originally Posted by carolf View Post

    Would you share your list building wisdom with me.

    I have around 200 subscribers and just over 3k facebook fans

    I use aweber. Here are the links to my pages

    if you have any advice to share with me about increasing my list Id be beyond words of grateful. I have a free report on my website called Dream Your Way To Happiness that people get when the sign up.

    Cheers from Carol
    Your site looks fine to me.

    You could do some changes like:

    -Automatic start of the audio when somebody lands on your homepage.

    -Make your free report more compelling to your visitors
    ( change colours, cover, etc. )

    -Like some already suggested- a separate capture page popping out...
    and some stuff like that.

    -May be create a whole different capture page to get people to, instead of your site.
    etc.

    But what you need to concentrate more on, is gettin traffic to that site to
    build your list.

    It's not that much the design or whatever. Traffic is what you need.

    From what I saw, you don't have that much traffic going to your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      Originally Posted by Vasilev View Post

      -Automatic start of the audio when somebody lands on your homepage.
      Do NOT do this, either for an audio or video.

      Many, many people strongly dislike autoplay audios and videos. If they're in a place where they either can't hear them or it's not a good place to play them (like work for example!), you'll alienate your audience before you get a chance to know them.

      Not everyone in your audience will have this problem, but letting your audience play your audio or video when they choose to is the respectful, professional thing to do.

      Michelle
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      • Profile picture of the author Vasilev
        Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

        Do NOT do this, either for an audio or video.

        Many, many people strongly dislike autoplay audios and videos. If they're in a place where they either can't hear them or it's not a good place to play them (like work for example!), you'll alienate your audience before you get a chance to know them.

        Not everyone in your audience will have this problem, but letting your audience play your audio or video when they choose to is the respectful, professional thing to do.

        Michelle
        This is just more than not right.

        Those who dislike that ( like you for example ) are really nobody...

        because nobody cares about 10 people's emotion's or situations.....

        Always better to autoplay the audio/video....

        If they can't hear or watch it or whatever, they could stop it.

        Guys, think before you talk.
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      • Profile picture of the author carolf
        I agree Michelle 2 things I loathe pop ups and autostart video

        cheers and thansk

        Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

        Do NOT do this, either for an audio or video.

        Many, many people strongly dislike autoplay audios and videos. If they're in a place where they either can't hear them or it's not a good place to play them (like work for example!), you'll alienate your audience before you get a chance to know them.

        Not everyone in your audience will have this problem, but letting your audience play your audio or video when they choose to is the respectful, professional thing to do.

        Michelle
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        • Profile picture of the author Vasilev
          Originally Posted by carolf View Post

          I agree Michelle 2 things I loathe pop ups and autostart video

          cheers and thansk
          Carolf,

          it's not about you or me or anybody agreeing with anybody.

          It's about what works. I understand some people express their preferences
          feelings etc., but it doesn't matter.

          Autoplay has always been working better. ( except some very rare cases )
          You can always stop it if you don't wanna watch or listen.


          Some people don't like it, but you can't get everybody to like you, your site, audio or whatever.

          Do what works, not what ten people like or dislike.

          I hope you get me right.
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          • Profile picture of the author carolf
            I really appreciate that and how good it was for me to step away from my own perspective and to consider something that might actually work, despite my own preferences.

            thank you for helping me to widen my perspective.

            I get you right

            Originally Posted by Vasilev View Post

            Carolf,

            it's not about you or me or anybody agreeing with anybody.

            It's about what works. I understand some people express their preferences
            feelings etc., but it doesn't matter.

            Autoplay has always been working better. ( except some very rare cases )
            You can always stop it if you don't wanna watch or listen.


            Some people don't like it, but you can't get everybody to like you, your site, audio or whatever.

            Do what works, not what ten people like or dislike.

            I hope you get me right.
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  • Profile picture of the author mickeyroad
    You are definitely correct! Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author CaseyB
    Nice site. Can you scale the process you used to get your 200 subscribers. I would start there.
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  • Profile picture of the author therichb
    List building is my long back dream from years & now I apply it via squeeze pages, sales pages, swaps etc.

    The one real advantage is a bigger list gets you more traffic & then you have the opportunity for conversion more quickly & with more ease coz you can convince a big list well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Silvey
    Originally Posted by carolf View Post

    Would you share your list building wisdom with me.

    I have around 200 subscribers and just over 3k facebook fans

    I use aweber. Here are the links to my pages

    https://www.facebook.com/CarolFinlaysonCoaching?ref=hl
    Carol Finlayson - How To Be Happy

    if you have any advice to share with me about increasing my list Id be beyond words of grateful. I have a free report on my website called Dream Your Way To Happiness that people get when the sign up.

    Cheers from Carol
    Dont hit the second link fellow warriors. The site is infected with a Finance Trojan.

    2012/07/27 09:45:59 -0500 CHRIS-PC Chris DETECTION C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Local\Temp\mor.exe Spyware.Zeus QUARANTINE
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