A Question of Branding. Nearly died when I saw this .... lol

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So there's this 22 year old female who aspires to hold a NY State Senate chair and she set up her campaign website. You've got to see it, complete with BRIGHT pink, sparkles, and leopard skin graphics (reminiscent of Myspace days).

I won't keep you in suspense any longer

http://mindymeyer4senate.com/index.html

So, is this appropriate branding for a wanna be politician?
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by RyanGillam View Post

      She isn't even pretty. How sad.
      Yes she is.




      I'd vote for her if I was American. I think it stands out.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        Yes she is.




        I'd vote for her if I was American. I think it stands out.
        Meh. She's a 5 at best. It looks more like a poorly put together amateur model page than anything else. All I know about her political ideals is that she thinks she'll be able to pull off a pink suit in front of the capital building :rolleyes:.

        When these are the kind of people that think they have a shot, it kind of makes you think about where our country is going. This sucks.
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

          Meh. She's a 5 at best. It looks more like a poorly put together amateur model page than anything else. All I know about her political ideals is that she thinks she'll be able to pull off a pink suit in front of the capital building :rolleyes:.

          When these are the kind of people that think they have a shot, it kind of makes you think about where our country is going. This sucks.
          I don't know Joe. She's got a BA in political science and she's a law student currently, so I'm not doubting her intelligence at all. I've seen so many political campaign sites and the one thing that ALL of them have ... they are ultra conservative in design and color. It's as if there is a cookie cutter political "look." Well, people are talking about her, that's for sure.
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          • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
            Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

            I don't know Joe. She's got a BA in political science and she's a law student currently, so I'm not doubting her intelligence at all. I've seen so many political campaign sites and the one thing that ALL of them have ... they are ultra conservative in design and color. It's as if there is a cookie cutter political "look." Well, people are talking about her, that's for sure.
            This is almost Lady Gaga, Part Deux. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a huge fan of hers, and I've looked on YouTube and seen videos of her when she was still in college and using her real name. The girl has a set of pipes on her and can sing anything, but she knew that's not enough to make it in today's world.

            So what did she do? She created this wild, unabashed, unadulterated public image that immediately got everyone's attention and has been a huge success ever since. Now she can sing what she wants and do what she wants and everyone will pay attention. Before, she could do that too, but no one had ever heard of her.

            I think this NY Senate-wannabe is trying the same trick.

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          • Profile picture of the author Lance K
            Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

            I don't know Joe. She's got a BA in political science and she's a law student currently, so I'm not doubting her intelligence at all. I've seen so many political campaign sites and the one thing that ALL of them have ... they are ultra conservative in design and color. It's as if there is a cookie cutter political "look." Well, people are talking about her, that's for sure.
            Yes...it seems like a ploy. She has her backers based on merit. Now she's trying to pull off a different/additional persona in order to appeal to a certain segment of voters. Her campaign seems to lack consistency in it's message/image.

            Additionally, I'd be a bit uneasy if I was depending on the demographic that responds to "I'm Senator and I Know It" flocking to the polls on election day.

            It will be interesting to see how it turns out though.
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            • Profile picture of the author Lance K
              So...she has already won a primary election?
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            • Profile picture of the author Lance K
              Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

              Yes...it seems like a ploy. She has her backers based on merit. Now she's trying to pull off a different/additional persona in order to appeal to a certain segment of voters. Her campaign seems to lack consistency in it's message/image.

              Additionally, I'd be a bit uneasy if I was depending on the demographic that responds to "I'm Senator and I Know It" flocking to the polls on election day.

              It will be interesting to see how it turns out though.
              Yep...quoted myself.

              After further thought...if she has the backing of the conservative base already, maybe it's not such a horrible idea to try to appeal to the voters who may just want a fresh approach.

              Her "branding" may even mask her conservative views. Independents (and perhaps even some Democrats) may just see her as a fresh face with a nontraditional approach & as a better alternative than the incumbent.

              It's hard to pass judgement based on personal feelings/opinions without knowing more about the demographics, voting history, etc. of the district she's running in.

              I may have been a bit hasty in my earlier comments. (Still don't care for the approach, but alas that's not relevant.)

              As I said...it will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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          Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

          Meh. She's a 5 at best. It looks more like a poorly put together amateur model page than anything else. All I know about her political ideals is that she thinks she'll be able to pull off a pink suit in front of the capital building :rolleyes:.

          When these are the kind of people that think they have a shot, it kind of makes you think about where our country is going. This sucks.
          Guess what I just done (don't want to start a new thread)?

          I accidently emailed someone, "glad you like the list," instead of, "glad you like the blog." LOL doh.

          Anyway, I don't go by numbers. My scale is I'D DO HER or NAH
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by fin View Post

            Guess what I just done (don't want to start a new thread)?

            I accidently emailed someone, "glad you like the list," instead of, "glad you like the blog." LOL doh.

            Anyway, I don't go by numbers. My scale is I'D DO HER or NAH
            lol ... you guys. This is about branding ... not sex
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            • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

              lol ... you guys. This is about branding ... not sex
              Please...when are large groups of guys ever involved in something that's not about sex? roflmao!

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            • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

              lol ... you guys. This is about branding ... not sex
              Sex might just be the brand .
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            • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

              lol ... you guys. This is about branding ... not sex
              lol
              think about it the guys will vote for sex reasons
              the older women will vote because they want to be young
              the younger women will vote because they found someone to represent them, and the feminist well uhhh their stat is probably so small they dont even matter lol Cheers!!!
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        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        Yes she is.




        I'd vote for her if I was American. I think it stands out.
        I'd vote too, hehe
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      She is obviously targeting a very specific section of the population. So, with that in mind, perhaps it's not too bad.
      I think I agree with this.

      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      So, is this appropriate branding for a wanna be politician?
      I think it isn't what most people would consider "appropriate", but presumably she knows this and that's part of the point? I hope so, anyway. It's a little ambiguous, I can see ...

      She's my age. I wouldn't be running for the Senate anyway, but if I were, I'd expect my age to be hugely against me, and that my website ought to be addressing that issue pretty substantially - which hers clearly isn't.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        She's my age. I wouldn't be running for the Senate anyway, but if I were, I'd expect my age to be hugely against me, and that my website ought to be addressing that issue pretty substantially - which hers clearly isn't.
        I wonder if this is going to work for her. She's getting a lot of attention, but a lot of tweets and blog articles are ridiculing the website. People are laughing ... not sure she is being taken very seriously.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          People are laughing ... not sure she is being taken very seriously.
          I see ... well, that's not too encouraging. I think there are probably limits (especially in this context?) to the theory that "there's no such thing as bad publicity"?
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        • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
          That's the whole point! She's sending a polarizing message to her community which creates conversations and of course people are going to just hate her web site and the angle she's taking with her public image. LOL

          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          I wonder if this is going to work for her. She's getting a lot of attention, but a lot of tweets and blog articles are ridiculing the website. People are laughing ... not sure she is being taken very seriously.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

            That's the whole point! She's sending a polarizing message to her community which creates conversations and of course people are going to just hate her web site and the angle she's taking with her public image. LOL
            Funny thing is ... I like a little bit of "gaudy" .... no seriously, but I never did get into the Myspace thing ... the ultimate site for gaudy and this site reminds me of Myspace.
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      • Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        She's my age. I wouldn't be running for the Senate anyway, but if I were, I'd expect my age to be hugely against me, and that my website ought to be addressing that issue pretty substantially - which hers clearly isn't.
        That's precisely the point Alexa: she's probably not running for a "serious" race to the Senate. She's leveraging on her age and on her "kewl" looks trying to target the young crown (or the crowd who votes for the fun of it).

        Therefore, age and her looks are not against her. They're precisely her USP (unique selling proposition), to put in marketing terms.

        Controversy sells, and she's exploiting that.
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      Originally Posted by RyanGillam View Post

      She isn't even pretty. How sad.
      What does it matter? I think she is but then again, that isn't the point is it
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        At least she's got the balls ...

        SHE does? Huh - that's interesting.:p
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          Originally Posted by hardinflash View Post

          At least she's got the balls to take action and at least attempt to achieve a goal. Haters gona hate
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          SHE does? Huh - that's interesting.:p
          Must be the language evolving or something.

          I've heard more and more women claiming to have balls - big ones, brass ones, you name it - in the last couple of years than in the rest of my life.

          Many of these women do choose to wear pants, where a discrete glance will expose the lie. Unless, of course, they're really men doing the RuPaul tuck-n-tape routine...
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          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          At least she's got the balls ...
          SHE does? Huh - that's interesting.:p
          Would that be a "Unique Selling Point"?
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    In a Huffington Post interview, she said she got inspired at age 11 by the movie "Pretty in Pink."

    She isn't even pretty. How sad.
    Pretty isn't a necessary qualification for Senate.
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      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      In a Huffington Post interview, she said she got inspired at age 11 by the movie "Pretty in Pink."



      Pretty isn't a necessary qualification for Senate.
      That's true. This is the incumbant. Not pretty. Handsome perhaps, but not pretty.
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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      In a Huffington Post interview, she said she got inspired at age 11 by the movie "Pretty in Pink."
      Pretty isn't a necessary qualification for Senate.
      I don't know if you saw it or not, but I think she is working that "Legally Blonde" Reese Witherspoon Strategy.
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        Originally Posted by Walter Parrish View Post

        I don't know if you saw it or not, but I think she is working that "Legally Blonde" Reese Witherspoon Strategy.
        I don't know if you know the difference between a fictional movie and reality, but that stuff doesn't happen in real life :rolleyes:.
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        • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
          Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

          I don't know if you know the difference between a fictional movie and reality, but that stuff doesn't happen in real life :rolleyes:.
          Hey fiction works. There's plenty of folks on the warriorforum that still believe, some college kid started facebook in his dorm room. lol

          Even better than that there's folks who actually believe that The Facebook has close to a billion members, when theres only 7 billion people in the world.
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  • Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

    So, is this appropriate branding for a wanna be politician?
    She is obviously targeting a very specific section of the population. So, with that in mind, perhaps it's not too bad.

    Didnt Sarah Palin follow a similar strategy? She did not do bad considering her "worth" as a potential country-leading politician.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      She is obviously targeting a very specific section of the population. So, with that in mind, perhaps it's not too bad.

      Didnt Sarah Palin follow a similar strategy? She did not do bad considering her "worth" as a potential country-leading politician.
      Yeah ... in the HP interview, she did say she was targeting young people and I'm sure that demographic will probably think her site is the coolest. :p

      I don't recall Sarah Palin ever being "gaudy" ... not very smart, but not gaudy. This girl has a great education (I think law student). Her website is being posted on blogs and Twitter so she's certainly getting viral attention from it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Croque
        That site hits a new low even for a politician!


        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        Yeah ... in the HP interview, she did say she was targeting young people and I'm sure that demographic will probably think her site is the coolest. :p
        Yeah, but 16 year old's can't vote lol
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      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      She is obviously targeting a very specific section of the population. So, with that in mind, perhaps it's not too bad.

      Didnt Sarah Palin follow a similar strategy? She did not do bad considering her "worth" as a potential country-leading politician.
      Sarah was under the RED SHOE Project.
      Red means Gooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
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    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

    OMG Suzanne...your warning wasn't enough. I almost covered my computer screen in coffee when I clicked on the link!

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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      OMG Suzanne...your warning wasn't enough. I almost covered my computer screen in coffee when I clicked on the link!

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      I know ... you see that sparkly gif in the headline that says "I'm Senator and I Know it"? lol.... and if you click on Issues ... there's a big headline that says

      DIVA OF THE DISTRICT in leopard skin graphic.
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      • Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        I know ... you see that sparkly gif in the headline that says "I'm Senator and I Know it"? lol.... and if you click on Issues ... there's a big headline that says

        DIVA OF THE DISTRICT in leopard skin graphic.
        Looks like something Jane would do on the television show "Drop Dead Diva".
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        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        I know ... you see that sparkly gif in the headline that says "I'm Senator and I Know it"? lol.... and if you click on Issues ... there's a big headline that says

        DIVA OF THE DISTRICT in leopard skin graphic.
        Haha, so are you sure this isn't personal Suzanne, ie. 'Diva of the District vs Domaining Diva'? J/K

        Anyway, regarding your OP, I usually agree with most of your opinions but, in this case, I think it is actually clever marketing. Especially since it sounds as though she has the smarts to back it up. (Sell the sizzle, then give them what they need.)

        I must admit that the first thing I thought of when I saw the site though, was legally blonde, lol. (And, yes, I've watched the movie. )

        I'm not really familiar with voter demographics in the US, but if it is true that the majority of young people don't vote then, who knows, perhaps she will be able to tap into that market. If traditional methods (ie. playing it safe) used by other politicians aren't appealing to that crowd, then maybe it is time to try something new?

        Re: Her attractiveness.. I don't think that she is unattractive but, as with most women, would certainly look heaps better if she lost [most of] the makeup, and the fake tan.
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        • Profile picture of the author DABK
          I'm sure that most prospective voters will forget about the pink when they realize that:

          "Mindy feels that career fairs and unemployment seminars should be more transparent and implemented throughout our district."

          And that she'd make New York safe by turning gangsters into PH D candidates:

          "She also intends to help our young involved in gang related activity by restructuring their lives and helping them work toward a degree."

          Anyway, she has the attention of a lot of people (even if bad). The question is, what is she going to sell? Seems like if you've been on TV, as anything, you can always sell something... even if it's nothing else than exclusive interviews and the story of your failed attempt at something.

          I see money in this lady's future but not a political career. Of course, I've been known to be wrong about both money and political campaigns.

          In the meantime, this thread's been fun. Thank you all.
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      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      OMG Suzanne...your warning wasn't enough. I almost covered my computer screen in coffee when I clicked on the link!

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      Seriously! I almost fell out of my chair when I heard the music! But, hey, anyone who can rock LMFAO on their campaign website gets my vote

      There's no doubt this girl is getting a ton of attention, but there's a big difference between people laughing *at* you and people laughing *with* you. Whatever legitimate credentials she may have are completely covered up by the fact that she wants to be the Snooki of the NY state senate.

      Contrary to what Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian think, not *all* publicity is good publicity.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Well, I've always said that pink is not just a color, it's an attitude.

        I'm thinking that the message that she's sending or the branding she's going after is that she is thinking outside of the box, that she's going against the grain of politics as usual. That she will bring something fresh and unconventional to an otherwise conventional non-working system

        Considering the complaints and dissatisfaction of government in recent days, that could work.

        As for being laughed at, she's being laughed at by the very ones she's pointing out as not bringing change and their staunch supporters who obviously aren't her target. Perhaps she's thinking that by them talking about her, or I should say ridiculing her, they're falling right into her plan. If she weren't considered a viable opponent or a threat, she wouldn't even be given a mention or a passing thought. Maybe that's why she didn't just go against the tide, but blatantly, wildly and loudly went against the tide.

        Will it work? Who knows? What I'd like to know is if she's getting a significant amount of donations through her website donate page. That would be an indicator if her campaign and branding is successful or not.

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        • Profile picture of the author Coast2Coast
          Interesting to watch. She and her web designer (a Mindy Lehman, who said the site is supposed to be funny) certainly got people's attention (100,000 hits in less than 24 hrs, kept crashing the servers & forcing Ms. Meyer to buy more spaciousness), a few TV news spots, raised $12,000 so far, and though many of the articles and comments following them poke fun at her (not always so good-naturedly), does seem that it also got quite a few people talking about the negative points of other various politicians including her opponent Kevin Parker.

          Wondering if or when she'll cross the threshold where the NY Times pays her mind or Jon Stewart brings her on for a minute.

          "If the only thing negative you can say about me is that my website is pink and it's not red, white and blue and it doesn't put you to sleep, then I think I'm all right," Meyer said. "When I actually go out there and campaign, they will see that I'm serious and informed." (from an ABC News bit)

          I like 'thinkers-outside-the-box.' Gonna have to check in on this story from time to time now.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            Here in the UK in many constituencies, there are enough non voters to win the seat!
            Here, too, which is why states are trying to require voter ID

            One article said this is a great campaign if you are running for Senator of the 8th grade. I agree with that one.

            Schools weren't mentioned. Could this be the next University of Phoenix success story?:p

            I'm probably biased - I don't like pink.

            Mindy has been quoted as saying one of her idols is the Reese Witherspoon character in "Legally blond". Hey - it worked in the movie.
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            • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
              I hear you Kay.

              I like pink, but this is over the top pink, blinding pink even!

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          • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
            Originally Posted by canyon View Post

            Oh God, imagine the pinky tears streaming down her face once reality hits her.

            In other order of things, I wonder what other themes she had to turn down in order to accept the Pinky Mindy persona...
            And read the following quote

            Originally Posted by Coast2Coast View Post

            "If the only thing negative you can say about me is that my website is pink and it's not red, white and blue and it doesn't put you to sleep, then I think I'm all right," Meyer said. "When I actually go out there and campaign, they will see that I'm serious and informed." (from an ABC News bit)
            That is so spot on, perfect response.
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            • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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              Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

              That is so spot on, perfect response.
              Yes, because there is nothing more serious for a real candidate than their Myspace page :rolleyes:.

              Being able to speak politician does not make one a politician.
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              • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
                Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

                Yes, because there is nothing more serious for a real candidate than their Myspace page :rolleyes:.

                Being able to speak politician does not make one a politician.
                So tell me... what makes a politician then? Isn't that the PROBLEM here? Too many career politicians instead of people just wanting to serve and make their city, county, state, and country better?

                Geeze... Give me someone honest who isn't already corrupt and has a pink website over someone who has red white and blue and being in the pocket of lobbyists.

                You want to take shots at her, and her website and say its a myspace page, but then say that being able to speak politician doesn't make them a politician, what's the point? You don't have to wear a suit, you don't have to conform... in fact, it's probably better that she IS different.

                She's right though... if all you can say about her is the website.... then really, is that a big deal? Seems to me if people have no problem with her stance on issues she's doing pretty great.
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                  Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                  So tell me... what makes a politician then? Isn't that the PROBLEM here? Too many career politicians instead of people just wanting to serve and make their city, county, state, and country better?
                  Where's the proof that they'd bring good change?

                  Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                  Geeze... Give me someone honest who isn't already corrupt and has a pink website over someone who has red white and blue and being in the pocket of lobbyists.
                  Where's the proof they won't just be another career politician who chases the money? They're already willing to settle for gimmicks just to get elected.

                  Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                  You want to take shots at her, and her website and say its a myspace page, but then say that being able to speak politician doesn't make them a politician, what's the point? You don't have to wear a suit, you don't have to conform... in fact, it's probably better that she IS different.
                  Sorry all of us aren't easy to please with a picture in front of the wrong building and a sparkling background. Did you research the candidate yet? I highly doubt it, unless you did so before now, so you're kinda talking out of your backside on this one.

                  All I'm saying is that this certainly doesn't help, and if gimmicks are what count for "change" these days, well we're in the sh**er already and we ain't comin' out.

                  Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                  She's right though... if all you can say about her is the website.... then really, is that a big deal? Seems to me if people have no problem with her stance on issues she's doing pretty great.
                  It's not a big deal. I give it about 15 minutes before she fades to a desk job in some bureaucracy .
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                    Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                    That is so spot on, perfect response.
                    What is so spot on about it? Apparently, she admits her website looks like crap, and that people will rightly ridicule her.

                    In other order of things, if she wanted to brand herself differently from the other competitors but still leveraging her advantage - being young - she could have easily just portrayed as a normal girl that wears normal clothes, goes out with normal people of her age in normal venues, is interested in the problems the young people face, but despite her young age she's still able to talk about more serious matters, to hold conversations with experienced politicians and experts in different fields, that she has a good understanding of how law works (she's a law students), etc., or even that because she's so young, she can set up a plan to serve the state for many years to come.

                    "Mindy intends to utilize her religious values and moral compass as her guide." Last time I checked, a woman claiming she's a diva is not something people with "a moral compass" or with "religious values" tolerate. But maybe that's just me. Or maybe not.

                    Anyway, I wish her all the luck in the world, cuz she needs it.
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                  Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                  So tell me... what makes a politician then? Isn't that the PROBLEM here? Too many career politicians instead of people just wanting to serve and make their city, county, state, and country better?

                  Geeze... Give me someone honest who isn't already corrupt and has a pink website over someone who has red white and blue and being in the pocket of lobbyists.
                  This is more about branding than politics. Politics are not allowed on WF, so let's avoid getting the thread closed by leaving politics out of it and stick to whether this is a good message for someone who wants to be a politician.
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                  • Yes, Suzanne, by all means let's leave politics out of it.

                    As long as you're allowed to slam Sarah Palin, that is.

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                      Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

                      Yes, Suzanne, by all means let's leave politics out of it.

                      As long as you're allowed to slam Sarah Palin, that is.

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                      Without mentioning her ******* political skills, we have to admit that she knows how to brand: even if it's a TV show about hunting moose.
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                    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                      Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

                      Yes, Suzanne, by all means let's leave politics out of it.

                      As long as you're allowed to slam Sarah Palin, that is.

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                      Stuff it Fluffy. Saying SP is not bright is not a political statement. She actually isn't a politician, is she .. or at least not employed or elected as one. Saying politicians are corrupt is a political statement.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                        Stuff it Fluffy. Saying SP is not bright is not a political statement. She actually isn't a politician, is she .. or at least not employed or elected as one. Saying politicians are corrupt is a political statement.
                        Gonna have to agree on this one. She's not a politician at the moment, she's a Pundit/Reality Star hybrid.

                        In fact, we as marketers can learn a lot from the brand that has been created around her (I wonder who her marketing team is).

                        From an obscure state governor, she turns a failed vice-presidential run into a few TV shows, a few book deals, air time on Fox News pretty much whenever she wants, mysterious bus tours when she wants to get buzz going, and she was almost immediately made a figurehead of the Tea Party movement.

                        It's been fascinating to watch.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                        Suzanne,
                        Stuff it Fluffy.
                        That was uncalled for.

                        We generally don't remove threads that discuss political strategy, as long as they stick to the strategy and don't get into the merits of the issues or philosophies involved. Campaigns are a rich educational resource for marketing ideas, but partisan political discussions have never lead to anything useful in this group.

                        That said, the comment about Palin wasn't any more political than it would have been to say that Anthony Weiner was an idiot. In his use of Twitter, at least, he was. If the comment is motivated by the person's perceived intelligence, rather than their policy positions or partisan affiliation, it's not really political.

                        That said, you're smart enough to know that any mention of certain people or issues will be filtered through strong partisan beliefs by some group or another. And many of those people will take offense. Nature of the beast.


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                  • Profile picture of the author luane
                    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                    This is more about branding than politics. Politics are not allowed on WF, so let's avoid getting the thread closed by leaving politics out of it and stick to whether this is a good message for someone who wants to be a politician.
                    Branding is very powerful...it caught all of our attention, didn't it? It's called courage to swim against all of the other fish in the sea - good for her! Reminds me of the Legally Blonde movies...and that actress is laughing all the way to the bank. Think outside of the box..Have you seen the Katie Perry movie and how she courageously branded herself? Now THAT was branding!
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                    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                      Originally Posted by luane View Post

                      Branding is very powerful...it caught all of our attention, didn't it? It's called courage to swim against all of the other fish in the sea - good for her! Reminds me of the Legally Blonde movies...and that actress is laughing all the way to the bank. Think outside of the box..Have you seen the Katie Perry movie and how she courageously branded herself? Now THAT was branding!
                      Sure it caught a lot of people's attention, but in a good way? Not so sure about that. Branding for movie stars and musicians like Lady Gaga are a lot different than branding for politicians.

                      I once worked for an agricultural lobbyist and went to his annual Christmas party. It was like Stepford ... everyone, including the wives looked very much the same in their attire, hair styles, plastic smiles on faces, etc.

                      There was not one in the bunch who dared to be different in terms of clothing, hair, color choices. There's got to be a reason for that. It's a look that will offend the least amount of people.
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                      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                        Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                        Here listen...

                        Has any of you lovely people thought that this campaign was to get a young aspiring lady starting out on the political ladder to get noticed?..as in to get people to actually talk about her?

                        Well she has certainly done that..

                        Even reached an Internet marketing forum several frikkin stratospheres away from politics.

                        Smart Marketing imo.

                        I f****ing learned something there..but you know...carry on slagging off great marketing...

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                        Well, only time will tell how well it converts
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                        • Profile picture of the author Cali16
                          Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                          Suzanne,

                          It's about people noticing you.
                          Getting noticed is one thing; getting noticed in a favorable way is another. I'm not so sure she is doing a good job of accomplishing the latter with her current approach. Anyone attempting to get into politics needs people to admire and like them, not make fun of them.

                          Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                          Conversions are not the goal.
                          Her goal is clearly to get voted into the Senate at some point. I'd certainly consider votes "conversions".
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                        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                          Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                          Suzanne,

                          To me branding is NOT about conversions.

                          It's about people noticing you.
                          For conversions. You just said in your last post that this was a smart way for her to get noticed and climb the political ladder. You know, here version of "converting".

                          Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                          It's about owning a piece of a persons sub-concious.
                          As skinnier, not pregnant, and "meh" looking Snooki knock off ?

                          Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                          imo the purpose of that particular campaign is not to convert, hell it's not even to get into office at 22 years of age.

                          ...it's simply a way of saying to people "I'm over here, this is me"...
                          How's it gonna do for her when she's running for President and they pull that crap up? Shoot, if Hillary Clinton had made a site like that when she was 22 (play along), she wouldn't be where she is now. They'd have shot her down before making it to the New York senate.

                          Unfortunate, but true. She has a political science degree. If she was serious, she would know better.

                          Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                          That website goes against the grain of the norm, which is exactly what you need to do to get noticed.
                          As others have stated: what kind of notice matters.

                          Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                          I agree it's bloody god-awful, but I bet it's doing the job, which is to get noticed.

                          Conversions are not the goal.
                          You're right. Without speaking to her to confirm, I would say that this is achieving the only goal I can fathom: attention.

                          It's just not the right goal. At all. Unless she's looking for a 30 second bit on the daily show or a shot on MTV.
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                          • Profile picture of the author fin
                            I think some people here are completely off the mark.

                            She'll be quiet for a few years, come back in here thirties all grown up and mature, end up saving a baby from a burning car and the nation will accept her. Now they will forget how they know her, but instantly she is more recognizable than that other bird who no-one knows.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                              Originally Posted by fin View Post

                              I think some people here are completely off the mark.

                              She'll be quiet for a few years, come back in here thirties all grown up and mature, end up saving a baby from a burning car and the nation will accept her. Now they will forget how they know her, but instantly she is more recognizable than that other bird who no-one knows.
                              As stated above, with our reality show politics though someone will dig this up and run her into the ground with it. It's the kind of thing that 24 hour news networks live for.
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                              • Profile picture of the author fin
                                I'm sure you have successful politicians who've done much worse.
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                                • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                                  Originally Posted by fin View Post

                                  I'm sure you have successful politicians who've done much worse.
                                  Of course. See: every politician ever.

                                  But if you ask me, it's a horrible strategy at a horrible time. She's a conservative right? Trying to break into the game at a very critical time for the GOP, and doing it in the worst way possible considering where the party is at. Not only have they had horrible luck with women (Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman), but they're facing an identity crisis on a party-wide basis. Are they tea party or not? How much longer can they hope to get by on hard-line, partisan stances on issues (the Democratic party does this as well, but the GOP is becoming known for it, part of their brand), and gimmicky campaign strategies like this and Herman Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan (as one of many examples)? They know they're in a bad spot, and that things need to start changing now.

                                  Do we really think this is the kind of conservative that the GOP wants rising the political ladder? Not at all! What we're going to inevitably see soon is a move closer towards the middle, and an attempt to return to a more conservative level of politics/campaigning that better represents what the party is about. They're not backing this girl, and will more than likely actively pump money into any "normal" person they can get to campaign against her. The GOP has no choice. They either hop off of the crazy train they are on, or ride it straight off of a cliff. She loses then, too. Whatever reincarnation replaces the GOP isn't going to want her around to represent the "new wave".

                                  She's playing checkers while everyone else is playing Call of Duty. It's an outdated strategy, and far from an ideal one in even the best of situations.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author fin
                                    Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

                                    Of course. See: every politician ever.

                                    But if you ask me, it's a horrible strategy at a horrible time. She's a conservative right? Trying to break into the game at a very critical time for the GOP, and doing it in the worst way possible considering where the party is at. Not only have they had horrible luck with women (Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman), but they're facing an identity crisis on a party-wide basis. Are they tea party or not? How much longer can they hope to get by on hard-line, partisan stances on issues (the Democratic party does this as well, but the GOP is becoming known for it, part of their brand), and gimmicky campaign strategies like this and Herman Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan (as one of many examples)? They know they're in a bad spot, and that things need to start changing now.

                                    Do we really think this is the kind of conservative that the GOP wants rising the political ladder? Not at all! What we're going to inevitably see soon is a move closer towards the middle, and an attempt to return to a more conservative level of politics/campaigning that better represents what the party is about. They're not backing this girl, and will more than likely actively pump money into any "normal" person they can get to campaign against her. The GOP has no choice. They either hop off of the crazy train they are on, or ride it straight off of a cliff. She loses then, too. Whatever reincarnation replaces the GOP isn't going to want her around to represent the "new wave".

                                    She's playing checkers while everyone else is playing Call of Duty. It's an outdated strategy, and far from an ideal one in even the best of situations.
                                    This is why I don't get involved in branding discussions.
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                          • Profile picture of the author tpw
                            Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

                            imo the purpose of that particular campaign is not to convert, hell it's not even to get into office at 22 years of age.

                            ...it's simply a way of saying to people "I'm over here, this is me"...

                            How's it gonna do for her when she's running for President and they pull that crap up? Shoot, if Hillary Clinton had made a site like that when she was 22 (play along), she wouldn't be where she is now. They'd have shot her down before making it to the New York senate.

                            Unfortunate, but true. She has a political science degree. If she was serious, she would know better.


                            That website goes against the grain of the norm, which is exactly what you need to do to get noticed.
                            As others have stated: what kind of notice matters.

                            I have to agree with the drunk monkey. :p

                            Everyone is saying that this is pure stupid, but the reality is that this is probably a long-term plan and a good starting point if I am right.

                            She probably does not expect enough votes this year to win her the seat. But she does expect enough votes to ensure that she will be a serious contender next time around.

                            What better branding can you bring to your next campaign than, "I was a nobody, with no financial backing whatsoever, and I managed to get 100,000 New Yorkers to cast a ballot for me in 2012."

                            Her goal for this year is to get media attention, so that when she makes a serious run later, people will already be aware of her.

                            Think Mitt Romney in 2008. He ran, and he was soundly defeated. But his 2008 run was only there to give him the experience and exposure to win the nomination in 2012.

                            Do you honestly think that if Romney did not run in 2008 that he would have won the nomination in 2012? Yeah, I don't either.



                            The thing that I was surprised about that no one mentioned is this:

                            "I can tell you one thing, I have no experience in corruption," said Meyer.
                            Really? I can see that statement coming back to bite her in the ass in some future campaign.

                            I can see the headline now from her competitor, in the election following her first win:

                            Mindy Meyer: She now has 4 (or 8) years experience in corruption.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Coast2Coast
                    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                    This is more about branding than politics

                    I'm tending to read it as being more about positioning than branding, unless or until I have good reason, based on her next move(s), to stop giving her the tentative benefit of the doubt.
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                  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                    Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

                    Here is her explanation for the pink site:
                    New York state Senate campaign: ?Diva? candidate Mindy Meyer explains pink site - POLITICO.com

                    She should know that appealing to the younger generation is not the best idea. They don't represent a high percentage of people voting.
                    This was my first thought - she's going after a market that isn't interested in buying.

                    Oh, and did someone explain to her that Elle Woods is a fictional character who rocked Harvard in pink because that's what the screenwriter wanted to happen?

                    Statements like that give her more in common with Palin than she might want.

                    On second thought, two names from Minnesota come to mind...

                    Governor Jesse 'the Body' Ventura

                    US Senator Al (second banana from the Franken & Davis comedy duo) Franken.

                    If those two clowns can win, maybe this Octomom doppelganger does have a shot...
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                    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                      Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                      Some people need to get a f****ing grip on what real world marketing is.

                      Does the phrase "the money is in the backend sale" mean anything to anyone in this
                      A smart marketer wouldn't market tampons to dudes, even if later on down the line they may need to buy them for a girlfriend/wife/daughter. Same way a conservative wouldn't market themselves as a bimbo, even though later down the line those conservatives probably will be voting.

                      Your brand means jack **** if it's the wrong product aimed at the wrong people.
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                    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                      Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                      Some people need to get a f****ing grip on what real world marketing is.

                      Does the phrase "the money is in the backend sale" mean anything to anyone in this thread, apart from about a couple of people who actually understand the point.
                      From someone who has made their living for over 12 years on front end sales, it means little to me personally. I don't care if she is planting seeds. Plant poisonous seeds and the impression you're making isn't going to sell whether it's now or later or front end or back end.

                      Branding is all about first impressions and the impression she's sending out is of someone who is immature and who thinks that playing the "sex card" is going to get her into the political arena as a serious contender.

                      I'm sorry ... but no matter how you slice it, she's putting out an image of herself that is both ridiculous and unflattering and beneath her aspirations and education.

                      I think any branding expert will agree that you DO NOT want to create a negative impression where people are talking, but they are laughing at her "brand" and the overall discussion is about how tacky her website is. Her branding says
                      Myspace Princess
                      Queen of Tacky
                      ... and worse with the super heavy makeup and fake tan if it is fake

                      Publicity is great if people are going to remember you in a good light. I think that most people will remember her for her hideous pink website.
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                      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                        Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                        In the same way people remember that brown liquidy stuff that looks like watered down sh**t.

                        AKA Coca-Cola.
                        That may be your impression of Coca Cola, but that image has never come to mind when I've thought about Coca Cola and in fact, if that was what most people thought of when they thought of Coke, I doubt many would drink it. :rolleyes:
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                        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                          Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                          Suzanne,

                          How the f*** can you be so out of sync?

                          I'm referring to the frikkin color ...duh?

                          Not SPECIFICALLY that I conjure up some frikkin vivid image in my head about watered down sh**.

                          The color is BROWN..if it didn't have coca-cola on it and you didn't remember the brand...would you drink it?

                          Cos I wouldn't..heck I don't the amount of crap in it.

                          Some people won't like it and don't drink it, in the same way people won't like her pink website, but there will be those that do and that's who she is trying to appeal to..unfortunately that demographic are probably not gonna vote, but here's the thing..one day they will and she will already be familiar to them.

                          At 22 years of age she probably has a 5 year plan, this is just a small part of it...hell, it's the beginning.

                          She is trying to get noticed, your talking about it enough...right?

                          ...sounds to me the amount of flat out rotten comments you've made in this thread that you almost resent her ambition.
                          You're being ridiculous. I don't resent her ambition. I merely think her site and branding are ridiculous and started a "polite" and lively discussion on it. Some don't agree with you, some don't agree with me. No big F&*%king deal either way.

                          And I drink brown liquid by the gallons daily ... it's called coffee.
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                          Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                          Some people won't like it and don't drink it, in the same way people won't like her pink website, but there will be those that do and that's who she is trying to appeal to..unfortunately that demographic are probably not gonna vote, but here's the thing..one day they will and she will already be familiar to them.

                          At 22 years of age she probably has a 5 year plan, this is just a small part of it...hell, it's the beginning.

                          She is trying to get noticed, your talking about it enough...right?

                          Agree.

                          Four years ago, most people would never have considered Mitt Romney as being a serious contender for the White House.

                          In fact, for the last four years, I thought the GOP would field a better candidate than Romney this year, so I figured he would get creamed in the primaries by the better candidate who never showed up.
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                          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                            Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                            Bill,

                            Your one of the few that "got" the point/marketing ploy.
                            If so few "get" it, it's not working very well
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                            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                              Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                              wtf are you talking about?

                              The general public aren't supposed to f***ing get it...right.

                              The art of marketing is to get your message across without revealing your f***ing motives...duh?

                              That's marketing.
                              Did you eat a bottle of nasty pills today or are you like this with everyone who disagrees with you?
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                                Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                                No.

                                I'm just chilling in my lounge in shorts and my T Shirt with a bottle of bud on my beer mat next to my laptop admiring the clueless tendencies of some people dude/gal..

                                ...just chillin.....and made a sale literally 30 secs ago ...so...how's Photoshop and your WSO design services going?....

                                Actually I'm out of this thread or it's gonna turn into another Myob turdfest no.2.
                                Good to hear you're chilling. Hate to see when you got riled up. I'm just sitting here chilling too, buck naked, drinking my favorite shi**y looking brown liquid, admiring the ... well, never mind.

                                My design service has been booked a week ahead since it opened, thank you.
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                                  Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                                  I'm just sitting here chilling too, buck naked admiring the ... well, never mind.
                                  Hey now, what did you tell me?

                                  This thread isn't about sex lol.
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                                  Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                                  Good to hear you're chilling. Hate to see when you got riled up. I'm just sitting here chilling too, buck naked, drinking my favorite shi**y looking brown liquid, admiring the ... well, never mind.
                                  Whew.. you know, a picture is worth a thousand words; Some of us might also like to admire the ... well, never mind.
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                                Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

                                Actually I'm out of this thread ....
                                Actually, he says that all the time - yet he still remains..... :p
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                            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                            In fact, for the last four years, I thought the GOP would field a better candidate than Romney this year, so I figured he would get creamed in the primaries by the better candidate who never showed up.
                            That's the exact problem, in this specific case. I don't disagree with what monkey is saying about the idea of branding at all, just that she has a horrible brand for the conservative audience she is trying to reach. Yes, later on down the line these people are going to be voters. But are they really going to want to vote for a candidate that conjures memories of the absolute circus that was the 2011-2012 GOP primaries? Of course not. Like it or not, that's just where she would fit in with that strategy too.

                            That's assuming she ever gets to a point where she is electable. As I opined above, I don't think she would have the backing of conservatives with the way she is going about things.
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                            • Profile picture of the author fin
                              Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

                              But are they really going to want to vote for a candidate that conjures memories of the absolute circus that was the 2011-2012 GOP primaries? Of course not. Like it or not, that's just where she would fit in with that strategy too.

                              .
                              You should never state facts in a discussion like this. This is YOUR opinion. I've seen it work plenty of times. Not in American politics, but there have been cases where people have became the darlings of the nation after being hated for so long.

                              Three people who spring to mind are Jade Goody, Alex Reid and Kerry Katona.
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                              "I have no experience in corruption"
                              She'll never go very far in politics without any corruption experience.
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                                Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner View Post

                                She'll never go very far in politics without any corruption experience.
                                lol. She's young. She has much to learn yet.
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                                Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner View Post

                                She'll never go very far in politics without any corruption experience.
                                You're absolutely right - At this point, fresh out of college, her knowledge of corruption is strictly theoretical. That won't pass at all - she needs some hands-on corruption experience.
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                            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                              Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

                              That's the exact problem, in this specific case. I don't disagree with what monkey is saying about the idea of branding at all, just that she has a horrible brand for the conservative audience she is trying to reach. Yes, later on down the line these people are going to be voters. But are they really going to want to vote for a candidate that conjures memories of the absolute circus that was the 2011-2012 GOP primaries? Of course not. Like it or not, that's just where she would fit in with that strategy too.

                              That's assuming she ever gets to a point where she is electable. As I opined above, I don't think she would have the backing of conservatives with the way she is going about things.
                              Joe, in one of the articles about her, it implied that she DID have the backing of her peers and they helped her fill out her papers to launch a campaign, so I think they must like pink also ...
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                  • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
                    Makes me think of that movie - oh what was it with Reese Witherspoon? Legally Blond - I would think her website would look a lot like this one.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan Curtis
                    Quite surprising comments coming from a marketing website.

                    There shouldn't really be any doubters in this bunch.

                    This is an example of marketing at its finest. She has people talking and interested that were never interested before.

                    I say it's an absolutely first-rate job of branding and a stirling example of public relations expertise.

                    Disagree? Then answer this for yourself: How much would this publicity be worth to you?

                    Now, whether she will get elected and if elected whether or not she will be able to have a positive influence remain to be seen.
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                    OMFG! ROFL!

                    Best thing I have seen all week!

                    This is the reason for everything that is wrong with America.
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                  • Profile picture of the author newimwarrior
                    Whilst I have the same 'I can't believe a politician has this sort of website', I do admire her for going for her dreams. At least she's trying - 'her way'. At 22, she's probably got time to modify and re-engineer her brand, if she keeps her political career going.

                    Thanks for sharing this - visiting the website is an experience!
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      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      OMG Suzanne...your warning wasn't enough. I almost covered my computer screen in coffee when I clicked on the link!

      -- j
      Hey we already got the 3 Stooges Government working, nothing wrong with trying out the Legally Blond Strategy. LOL
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    Regardless of her website she probably could do no worse as a politician compared to most.

    Jeffery 100% :-)
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  • Isn't part of the idea of branding to sow mental seeds.

    A car brand doesn't make you want to buy a car, but when you *do* want to buy a car, your brain goes to the brands that are embedded there.

    Same with this I think.

    When voting comes around, the young voters, who have maybe never voted, will think to that bright young energetic woman candidate and, bang, tick her box?
    If you ask them why they voted for her, they may not be able to give a sensible answer, but the job has been done by then.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by The Great Gordino View Post

      Isn't part of the idea of branding to sew mental seeds.

      A car brand doesn't make you want to buy a car, but when you *do* want to buy a car, your brain goes to the brands that are embedded there.

      Same with this I think.

      When voting comes around, the young voters, who have maybe never voted, will think to that bright young energetic woman candidate and, bang, tick her box?
      If you ask them why they voted for her, they may not be able to give a sensible answer, but the job has been done by then.
      $15+ trillion in debt and rising: it suddenly makes perfect sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    Do not doubt her intelligence. She is probably a lot smarter than most people know. Look at the attention she is getting. After all how many candidates currently have their own thread going on WF?

    This is a great example of "out of the box thinking."

    I loved the movie Pretty in Pink.
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    • Profile picture of the author Coast2Coast
      Piece from NY Daily News---

      24 Jul 2012

      ALBANY -- It's not the kind of political campaign typically run by Orthodox Jewish Republicans, but a Brooklyn state Senate candidate is turning "Sexy and I Know It" on its head.


      Mindy Meyer, a 22-year-old Brooklynite running on the Republican and Conservative lines against incumbent Democratic Sen. Kevin Parker, has a hot pink campaign website that is more "Legally Blonde" than Hillary Clinton.


      Her slogan -- "I'm Senator and I know it" -- is a play on the popular song "I'm Sexy and I Know It" by LMFAO.


      "It's to appeal to the younger voter and show them that politics isn't all boring," Meyer told the Daily News, noting that she "fell asleep" viewing other campaign websites.


      The pink inspiration for hers, she said, came from Elle Woods, the lead character from "Legally Blonde," played by Reese Witherspoon.


      "You can make pink sophisticated," Meyer said. "She took pink to a top legal institution like Harvard, so why can't I bring it to the Senate?"


      The Touro College law student said she knew she wanted to enter politics after meeting former Mayor Rudy Giuliani when she was 12.


      If there is one problem with her website, it's the photos of her -- one in a black blazer and one in a pink one -- that are superimposed in front of a picture of the U.S. Capitol -- not the state Capitol where she'd work if she beats Parker.


      "Does she know she's not running against (U.S. Sen.) Kirsten Gillibrand?" Parker scoffed. Meyer said she's aware of the flub, but said either way, it's a political picture.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
    Here is her explanation for the pink site:
    New York state Senate campaign: ?Diva? candidate Mindy Meyer explains pink site - POLITICO.com

    She should know that appealing to the younger generation is not the best idea. They don't represent a high percentage of people voting.
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    • Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

      She should know that appealing to the younger generation is not the best idea. They don't represent a high percentage of people voting.
      The fact that they don't vote means they can be a rich source to tap into if you convince them!

      Here in the UK in many constituencies, there are enough non voters to win the seat! I speak to many of them, and it's purely down to bad education. Give them a quick lesson, and you'd be amazed how they can turn!
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Presumably she's more "putting her marker/branding down for the future" than seriously hoping to win? (I do think she may actually be right about "taking pink all the way to Harvard" - though whether she's necessarily going to want that sort of branding - in politics - when she's a little older may be a different question? ).
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    • Profile picture of the author Bokva
      I thought it's some kind of parody... I can't believe it.
      She could put some effort (money) in her website. Leave it pink, but this...?
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
    Oh God, imagine the pinky tears streaming down her face once reality hits her.

    In other order of things, I wonder what other themes she had to turn down in order to accept the Pinky Mindy persona...
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by RyanGillam View Post

      She isn't even pretty. How sad.
      Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

      Meh. She's a 5 at best. It looks more like a poorly put together amateur model page than anything else. All I know about her political ideals is that she thinks she'll be able to pull off a pink suit in front of the capital building :rolleyes:.

      When these are the kind of people that think they have a shot, it kind of makes you think about where our country is going. This sucks.
      Well you can't really see the rest of her, but I'd definitely give her a 7 on what I see.

      On to the more important issue, I think you saying "these kind of people" thinking they have a shot, isn't bad for the country. It shows that people still have inspiration and want to make a change even if they go about it in an unorthodox way.

      It's only a state senate spot, not US senate. I think you'd be surprised what people on this board could do if they decided to run for their local government. I can tell you right now that if I would have run or other people on this very message board made an attempt to run, we probably wouldn't have the amazon/affiliate tax being passed in Illinois.

      Sometimes if you want change, you have to be the person that brings it. I have mad respect for her.
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    She picks a wrong background theme song...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacob Lot
    I personally suppose it isn't. Colours have effects on humans. Take red for example, it sets of a warning or attention signal in my head.

    Senaters are definitely looking at trust to be one of the number one emotions to install in others. Pink definitely doesn't render that behaviour.

    She should definitely go for a soft blue or brown to get the whole "trust" effect going for her 'brand'.

    Just my two cents
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Jacob Lot View Post

      I personally suppose it isn't. Colours have effects on humans. Take red for example, it sets of a warning or attention signal in my head.

      Senaters are definitely looking at trust to be one of the number one emotions to install in others. Pink definitely doesn't render that behaviour.

      She should definitely go for a soft blue or brown to get the whole "trust" effect going for her 'brand'.

      Just my two cents
      I don't know what emotion pink renders, but it definitely isn't a color people take "seriously." It's all fluffy and girly. But it's not just the pink. There's also the leopard skin Headline and the background music and calling herself a Diva of the District... All these things combined just make her seem immature to me.

      That's my impression of her anyway just based on the website ... Maybe there's more to her than pink fluff and sparkles and weird background music, but it isn't coming across to me. Like someone above said ... it looks like a "model" website without all the racy pics, although I also think she's trying to play the "sex" card also.
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    I love the background music.
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  • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

    So there's this 22 year old female who aspires to hold a NY State Senate chair and she set up her campaign website. You've got to see it, complete with BRIGHT pink, sparkles, and leopard skin graphics (reminiscent of Myspace days).

    I won't keep you in suspense any longer

    http://mindymeyer4senate.com/index.html

    So, is this appropriate branding for a wanna be politician?
    I looked at this for 5 seconds, and there's a pink outline of the site burned into my retina!! Is she running for Senate or Homecoming Queen??!!

    I don't know what emotion pink renders,
    Horror.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I can't imagine one population or group of people who will take that page seriously. Even young women her age. I just don't see it happening.

    She's got too much mascara on, looks like a jersey shore tramp (maybe thats her branding?) and reality is noones going to vote for her just because of her branding. I see more girls calling her a slut and taking offense to the way she's marketing herself like a little myspace whore. She better have a message and pretty damn strong message at that and right now all I'm seeing is pink and sparkly diamonds.

    She might as well throw a half naked pic of Brad Pitt up there and a photo of her doing a handstand on a keg.

    I'll put $100 down right now that the majority of folks just laugh at her.


    Also, I'm not sure if anyone follows Sam Harris but he once did this exercise to show how quickly people can associate traits to another human being. He stood up in front of a room of people and pretended to hold a very large diamond between his hands. Then he asked how peoples perceptions changed of him.

    Obviously the main perception was that he was wealthy/rich. But then people will also associate other irrelevant things as well (there is a name for this in psychology but I forgot it - misassociation of something its called). Like that he is a snob, or that he has had an easy life, etc etc.

    The point is people will draw MANY conclusions about her (whether they're right or not) just based on the way she's branding herself.

    Words like:

    cheap
    slut
    immature
    unexperienced
    stupid
    not to be taken seriously

    etc etc

    I just think she went a bit too overboard. Having a bit of pink wouldn't have been a problem, but she really just took it way too far imo.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      I can't imagine one population or group of people who will take that page seriously. Even young women her age. I just don't see it happening.

      She's got too much mascara on, looks like a jersey shore tramp (maybe thats her branding?) and reality is noones going to vote for her just because of her branding. I see more girls calling her a slut and taking offense to the way she's marketing herself like a little myspace whore. She better have a message and pretty damn strong message at that and right now all I'm seeing is pink and sparkly diamonds.
      I think "slut" is too strong a word. She is too heavily made up ... that's a fact. I guess it will boil down to how seriously she launches her actual campaign. If she wears pink everywhere she goes and carries a poodle with leopardskin clothing on, her message may get lost in all the "laughter."
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  • Profile picture of the author jivens
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    Crap, I had my volume BLASTING when I clicked that link and I woke up my daughter lol oh well. I just showed her what she never wants to be .
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Anybody remember Willyam the Hillbilly Marketer, speaking of branding. His main page is down now, but his facebook page is here
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Willy...13054048722800

    If you missed this character, he still has Youtube videos up if you Google willyam hillbilly marketer

    Was it out of the box thinking? The Internet was buzzing about him for a short while. Did anyone ever buy anything from this guy? I doubt it, but he was talked about and laughed at a lot.

    This girl is the Willyam of Politics, IMHO. A flash in the pan of Internet history. She's smart and has education behind her so she'll do alright even if this campaign is a bust.

    Attention comes in many different forms and poor old Willyam is just some scraps of what he created that are still left on the Internet. People's attention spans are short. Her gaudy website is the buzz today and will be forgotten tomorrow.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      You have to remember big Arnold was some foreign drug user who couldn't act, could barely speak English, and used to prance about a stage in his underwear with other mean while being covered in baby oil. Look how far it got him.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Anybody remember Willyam the Hillbilly Marketer, speaking of branding. <snip>
      I thought Thaddaeus T. Hogg had that market cornered.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
        Love this branding discussion! What a great example.

        Several people have made interesting points. I totally agree that her "branding" and "positioning" as a candidate are a complete joke. Given her education, I'm surprised she actually went with it.

        Her explanation for the site (as quoted by Coast2Coast) actually made some sense. But the resulting site is still all wrong.

        Does she stand out? Yes. Will people remember her? Probably.

        But for all the wrong reasons. The site and her branding/positioning are HIDEOUS.

        Yes, I understand that she's targeting the younger demographic. It's a poor choice (since that demographic doesn't vote in large enough numbers to make a difference), but even for the younger crowd that DOES vote, it's insulting.

        She could still stand out by using pink, yet do it in a way that conveys credibility and trust. (A color scheme of pink/black/gray comes to mind.) Her current site screams "amateur" and "immature."

        Also, no one has mentioned that all-important secondary sphere of supporters and influencers.

        Just like a business, you're not just speaking to voters (i.e. potential customers). You're also speaking to that secondary sphere of people who help make your campaign successful: donors, endorsers, etc. (In business, this is the equivalent of potential JV partners, endorsers, bankers and other sources of credit and capital, etc.)

        While secondary, these people can make or break her campaign. While they might be amused, I highly doubt any donor, organization, politician or other backer of any real substance will be willing to get behind her in a serious way. None of them wants her "branding" associated with them and reflected back to THEIR constituents.

        Political candidates need these "secondary sphere" supporters and influencers even more than entrepreneurs do.

        Several here have given her kudos for trying and standing out. Unfortunately, the saying that any publicity is good publicity is dead wrong -- especially in politics. (Bad publicity can sink a political career in no time flat.) Yes, you want attention, to stand out. Yes, she might be getting a lot of buzz now. But as others mentioned, I think most people are laughing AT her and not taking her seriously. In politics, that's bad.

        The shade of pink, sparkles and leopard print are all bad, bad, bad choices. Horrendous! But it's not just that. The site layout is also very basic and bad. And look at the e-mail. She has her own domain but is using a GMail e-mail?

        Yes, she's slim and "attractive." But she has an umm... "escort" quality about her. NOT good. She needs to lose the heavy makeup and fake tan.

        I'm not sure I could trust her to watch my cats, much less be my senator!

        If she's serious, I think the whole thing is a train wreck.

        But as someone else mentioned, she might be smarter than we give her credit for. She might be able to parlay this into a successful campaign the next time around. Maybe she just wants to get on the map now and get known. (I seriously doubt she's going to win this time around!)

        If so, kudos to her. But I still wouldn't approach it this way this time around. The entire thing is a farce.

        As for the Warrior who said she didn't need "conversions"... What planet are you from??? Votes ARE conversions, the equivalent of a sale in the business world. Just like enough sales make a successful business, enough votes make a successful campaign.

        EVERY candidate is looking for conversions (i.e. votes).

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    LOL, that's too funny!
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  • Profile picture of the author bwh1
    I think I just found here Mentor, an Italian congress woman (no joke)...

    (Ooopps, something has popped out of my blouse, wasn't meant to happen).

    Go and check who I'm talking about http://media.wistbacka.se/2008/09/crw_0136.jpg

    G.

    P.S. She had somehow a "strong" brand but I removed the image embedding due to WF rules, maybe better not to display
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    Did anybody else have a download immediately start? or attempt to?
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    OMG. There would be no way I could take that girl seriously. I feel like I landed on a page off MTV.
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    Oh god, the agony. Good luck, chick.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
    She lost all credibility with me as soon as her 'theme' song started and I read her tag line......

    "I'm Senator and I Know It"

    I'm all for new, fresh politicians......but c'mon....maturity really does need to be a prerequisite.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    /end thread

    Same exact thoughts that were going through my mind. People almost seem to believe any form of extreme branding is a good thing. Problem is this girl is branding herself to be an idiot. That was actually the first word to come to my mind when I saw her picture was "escort" followed by "jersey shore" (just look how jersey shore branding served the situation - he became known as the worlds biggest douchebag).

    People are using Arnold and Reese Witherspoon as examples but seem to be forgetting both these people were TOP OF THEIR GAME.

    Reese Witherspoon is an impeccable & highly talented actress, she's made many classic movies aside from Legally Blonde. BECAUSE of her SKILLs and ABILITIES. That is what branded her more than anything imo.

    Same thing with Arnold. When he was in his prime nobody could touch him. I don't believe his success had that much to do with his branding. I'm sure it played a role, but genetics likely played an even larger role. Dedication to the perfect physique and an insatiable drive to push the envelope is what made him who he is.

    This girl will be forgotten within a week after the election. If anyone does remember her it will be for how ridiculous she tried to campaign herself.

    She is also the first female to run for the NY senate, not to mention she's only 22. The more experienced, older, and potentially "corrupt" male politicians, as corrupt as they may be... its very likely they will make a machery of this girl.

    I just don't think what she is doing is smart. You need to make your mark in a more clever way than that. People are just not that stupid.

    -Red
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      I wonder if people will start backing her just to stick it to those bullies who are saying nasty things about her.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      /Reese Witherspoon is an impeccable & highly talented actress, she's made many classic movies aside from Legally Blonde. BECAUSE of her SKILLs and ABILITIES. That is what branded her more than anything imo.
      There's a BIG difference between Reese Witherspoon the actress and the fictional character Elle Woods. Apparently, she's modeling the fictional Elle Woods, NOT real-life actress Reese Witherspoon. You're right, but you can't really compare Reese's skills and abilities to that of the fictional Elle Woods (or lack thereof).

      I've seen Legally Blonde I & II too and also love them. However, they are FICTIONAL stories and the premise wouldn't really work out in real life the way it does in the movies. They are feel-good movies, the stuff of mists and fairytales. Perfect Hollywood material. VERY BAD real-life political material (at least, the angle this candidate is taking anyway).

      If this girl Mindy were a comedian or pundit, then this might be a great angle. But as a "serious" candidate, it's laughable.

      It's also very, VERY scary. What if she actually won??!!

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      • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
        Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

        There's a BIG difference between Reese Witherspoon the actress and the fictional character Elle Woods. Apparently, she's modeling the fictional Elle Woods, NOT real-life actress Reese Witherspoon. You're right, but you can't really compare Reese's skills and abilities to that of the fictional Elle Woods (or lack thereof).

        I've seen Legally Blonde I & II too and also love them. However, they are FICTIONAL stories and the premise wouldn't really work out in real life the way it does in the movies. They are feel-good movies, the stuff of mists and fairytales. Perfect Hollywood material. VERY BAD real-life political material (at least, the angle this candidate is taking anyway).

        If this girl Mindy were a comedian or pundit, then this might be a great angle. But as a "serious" candidate, it laughable.

        It's also very, VERY scary. What if she actually won??!!

        Michelle
        I don't honestly recall making that comparison in the first place. I was merely saying the reason that movie was good, was Reeses personality and ability to humor people.

        They could have easily picked a less competent blonde for the role, like Paris Hilton lol, and not a single person would have remembered the name "Elle Woods".

        You say these comparisons can't be made, yet movie directors get paid millions to do precisely that. In fact its the first thing thats done before any movie is made. The screening phase and what not. Take for instance Val Kilmer in playing Jimmy Morrison, or Joaquin Phoenix playing Johhny Cash or Russell Crowe playing John Nash. I mean do they just spin a wheel to decide who will play the role? I don't think so. In fact, I'm pretty sure these directors hire body language experts who do nothing but compare the actor to the person he's portraying.. in order to perfect the role that is.

        Maybe I'm missing your point? Idk, not trying to argue but I'm also not sure that statement was 100% true. Most movies are made by comparing actors to the roles they play.. no?
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          RedShifted,

          I'm not arguing with you. I agree with you.

          I'm merely pointing out that Candidate Mindy is NOT modeling her campaign/website/whatever on real-life actress Reese. She's modeling it on fictional Elle.

          You're right about Reese's abilities playing a huge part in making the movie a success.

          But that's a separate issue.

          I still don't think that Candidate Mindy is too smart when it comes to her branding and positioning. For a "serious" candidate, her choices seem to be very bad.

          But like I said, maybe she's smarter than we give her credit for. Maybe she'll surprise us all and is merely using it to "get known" in preparation for another candidacy later. Who knows?

          Forgive me if I seriously doubt it though. :rolleyes:

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      Just need to straighten out one factual point...

      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      is also the first female to run for the NY senate, to mention she's only 22.

      That's not true. In fact, women have been serving in the NY legislature since 1919. This woman is, however, the first 22 year old Jewish Orthodox woman (and however other many adjectives she put in front of her name). But definitely NOT the first woman.


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      I keep looking at what she's doing and thinking she's not angling for an actual elected position -- she's marketing herself for something like a reality TV show. In that case, her marketing is certainly working, because people are talking about her and she's polarizing her audience.

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  • It's good because it's unique. People are pissed off and tired of voting between two of the same old same old white guys. It's certainly not professional, but it should get her media exposure and attention and if she can actually hold her own in debates, she'll have a better chance than with a boring website/brand.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by HansDavid View Post

      I would do her.
      This is not about sex. It's a serious discussion about politics that's somehow slipped inside the making money forum. Stop talking about sex.
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        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        I would do her.
        This is not about sex. It's a serious discussion about politics that's somehow slipped inside the making money forum. Stop talking about sex.

        LOL

        As someone else said earlier, when a group of men gather to talk about a woman, it is always about sex!!



        I might do her -- IF she looks halfway decent after she scrapes all that crap off of her face!! But, I am afraid they don't make snow shovels stout enough to get all of that crap off of her face!!

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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by bwh1 View Post

        I think I just found here Mentor, an Italian congress woman (no joke)...

        (Ooopps, something has popped out of my blouse, wasn't meant to happen).

        Go and check who I'm talking about http://media.wistbacka.se/2008/09/crw_0136.jpg

        G.

        P.S. She had somehow a "strong" brand but I removed the image embedding due to WF rules, maybe better not to display
        lol ... now that's branding :p

        Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

        I thought Thaddaeus T. Hogg had that market cornered.
        I'd forgotten about Willyam so I googled redneck marketer and guess who came up #1 in Google - tpw

        Originally Posted by MP80 View Post

        Haha, so are you sure this isn't personal Suzanne, ie. 'Diva of the District vs Domaining Diva'? J/K

        Anyway, regarding your OP, I usually agree with most of your opinions but, in this case, I think it is actually clever marketing. Especially since it sounds as though she has the smarts to back it up. (Sell the sizzle, then give them what they need.)
        ... but I'm not running for Senate and my gaudy website wouldn't be what I would use for a campaign site.

        I know how conservative politicians are in the area of fashion, hair color, websites, etc. (having worked for a lobbyist).

        I'll never forget the time I dyed my hair and I wanted to go a bit red while I was working for the head founding lobbyist at this firm. The dye job went horribly wrong and it had a sort of purplish cast to it rather than the red I was going for. I went to work ... was promptly sent home and told not to come back until it was fixed. I sat outside of the head lobbyists office and politicians came in and out of there all day long, and he did not want them to see someone out there with "purplish" hair .... lol.

        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        This is not about sex. It's a serious discussion about politics that's somehow slipped inside the making money forum. Stop talking about sex.
        It's a discussion about branding and branding has a lot to do with making money. The sex is just a sidenote ... boys will be boys.
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  • Profile picture of the author IntoughShape
    wth.... you have to be kidding me "I'm a senator and I know it", sounds like its from the LMFAO song.... sexy and I know it... daam I think her only vote would be from fin. LOL im just screwin but seriously what can she possibly do to help, the economy just sux atm. I'm sure shes great in person but kind of an epic fail webpage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Taniwha
    "I can tell you one thing, I have no experience in corruption,". Neither with web design.
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    Ehhhhhhhh.....that's about all I can say.
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    Nice share!

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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    She is trying to create publicity and she is achieving it.

    I have always seen familiarity as a powerful weapon if used correctly.

    For Mindy Meyer, I see a story of "from WHO Are You to HOW Are You".
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Wagoner
    Okay, I checked out Miss Meyer's bling-bling site and followed a few of her press links to view reader comments.

    My take away is that this is like someone swallowing a grenade.

    You know it's gonna make a mess, but you just have to watch it happen.

    It appears to be more a parody than reality.

    Is it just me, or would the theme song for Madagascar 3 be a fitting background track for this site?

    This is what her branding efforts to date say to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeViney
    Her publicist/marketer should be shot! Lol no but seriously ambition is good at such a young age and i love seeing exceptional people who are so young excelling in there field. However if she wants to become a politican she needs to loose the cheesy gimicks and go with something that commands respect and provides a sense of credibility. My 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yulia from DNP
    Loved the ambition, definitely stands out, this is definitely " different"
    A little too young maybe, who knows, maybe a 22 year old pink girl will make more change then a another suit man, as said- to receive something you never received before, you need to do something you never did before, as in- i would give her a try.
    The hole message though screams- im young and have many things to learn but i have real interest and ambition.
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  • Profile picture of the author robcop
    But she does get a nice backlink and some free traffic! win!
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  • Profile picture of the author dv8domainsDotCom
    Le question: So, is this appropriate branding for a wanna be politician?

    WOW! I have to say, she has DEFINITELY gotten the attention she wanted, BUT, not appropriate for a politician (especially somebody that claims to be conservative).

    Maybe to explain at least, why I feel this way.

    Her CHOICES (made deliberately) for this website bring attention to her campaign, and not necessarily to her policy. Her choices speak to how she may act if she were a senate member. Will she make decisions to incite? Will she make the RIGHT decision that is best for the 'whole' of a particular situation? Or will she try to find the most glamorous, titillating, "talk about me", crowd-appeal option (right or not) that meets the flavor of the month?

    I worry for a public that would vote for a reason as shallow as having a pink website. Idiocracy, anyone?

    On that, though, is some ambiguity: her choices made for the website draw attention to the campaign (reaching an intended goal); however, I think also bring to light a potential flaw in mind-set.

    For that reason, I am torn on if it is the right decision. It is brilliant, and yet dumb at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anita Clark
    The in-your-face pink is doing one thing...getting people (like us) to talk about and visit her site. It's more flash than substance so my vote is NO, it's not a good message for someone aspiring to be a politician (or maybe it is...HA!).
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  • Profile picture of the author dv8domainsDotCom
    And FFS who uses a statcounter on their page anymore!!! From statcounter . com even....

    Really?!?! Really??!?!?!

    Forget just... EVERYTHING you know. I'm going back to angelfire websites. Seeya!!
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by dv8domainsDotCom View Post

      And FFS who uses a statcounter on their page anymore!!! From statcounter . com even....

      Really?!?! Really??!?!?!

      Forget just... EVERYTHING you know. I'm going back to angelfire websites. Seeya!!
      Background music kind of died awhile ago also, along with leopard skin Headlines.

      But people are talking ... I did a Google search for "ridiculous pink website" She dominates the first page of Google for ridiculous pink website

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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Monkey, it's yet another case of having a good strategy and executing it horribly.

      After a second look at that website, I'll amend what I said about aiming for a market that isn't interested in buying. She seems to be aiming for a market who isn't old enough to buy, and by the time they are, she'll be old news.

      She won't be 22, she won't be different, she'll just be older with an epic fail in her back pocket.

      By the time most people are interested in voting, they're more interested in what their candidate can do for them, what needs that candidate can address.

      As for the cutesy "no experience with corruption" quote, given the current state of most of American politics, she'd better get some quick or she'll get eaten alive if lightning should strike and all other candidates drop out...
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    Here is the only thing you need to know to be absolutely sure that she, and the people advising her know nothing about branding on the web:

    http://www.mindymeyerforsenate.com/

    She knows no more about branding on the web than any local business owner who has never marketed themselves on the web and suddenly decides to register a domain name with the number 4 in it.

    Any branding that happens as a result of her web presence will happen completely on accident as a result of people gawking at how bad it is.

    Her use of the number 4 in her domain name and the fact that she did not also register the domain with the spelling for shows that she knows how to market just about as well as the person who once becoming your friend on facebook without any other introduction suddenly sends you a message consisting of:

    "How R U?"

    Branding? Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft (wipes spray off monitor).

    Imagine what happens when web trolls or those running against her register http://www.mindymeyerforsenate.com/ since she forgot to?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
    'I'm senator and I know it'

    lol'ing pretty hard!

    She may be targeting a certain demographic but unfortunately I don't think that particular demographic are too interested in politics.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sum1
    There's nothing new about strange branding to make a point. In the UK the Monster Raving Loony Party has managed to win seats before, even though there is pretty much nothing serious about their policies other than to point out the hypocrisy of the mainstream parties.
    In these situations the strategy may be to make it obvious you are making a point but not so obvious what that point is. That way you get lots of attention but people spend time trying to figure out what point you are trying to make. When the penny drops it is easier to recall what it was all about.
    Gaudy pink, leopard print text, diamante text and then strangely a suite of issues that are are pretty standard stuff for any campaign (which therefore don't stand out). There appears to be one thing on the site that by it's irony is probably the most serious topic (that most politicians would seek to steer well clear of in any campaign) included on the site while being portrayed in probably the least serious way. It also seems to fit with the persona of the candidate(?) while protecting her from too much fallout from a fairly contentious and polarising discussion.
    I'm not sure it is a strategy that would work particularly well for most products that are marketed on the warrior forum but it may have a place in some other niche altogether.
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  • Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

    So there's this 22 year old female who aspires to hold a NY State Senate chair and she set up her campaign website. You've got to see it, complete with BRIGHT pink, sparkles, and leopard skin graphics (reminiscent of Myspace days).

    I won't keep you in suspense any longer

    http://mindymeyer4senate.com/index.html

    So, is this appropriate branding for a wanna be politician?
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    • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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      Thanks for the laugh I thought I signed in on one of my other accounts cough cough
      Originally Posted by RyanGillam View Post

      She isn't even pretty. How sad.
      Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

      Meh. She's a 5 at best. It looks more like a poorly put together amateur model page than anything else. All I know about her political ideals is that she thinks she'll be able to pull off a pink suit in front of the capital building :rolleyes:.

      When these are the kind of people that think they have a shot, it kind of makes you think about where our country is going. This sucks.
      Originally Posted by fin View Post


      Anyway, I don't go by numbers. My scale is I'D DO HER or NAH
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      Well you can't really see the rest of her, but I'd definitely give her a 7 on what I see.
      Others distracting funnys

      Originally Posted by bwh1 View Post

      Hi John

      LMAO about your sig man

      "I did not fight my way to the top of the food chain to eat tofu!"

      Hilarious


      G.
      Originally Posted by Dragonfire Wealth View Post

      I could never succeed fooling with you folks, smh

      Back to work
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by theory expert View Post

        Thanks for the laugh I thought I signed in on one of my other accounts cough cough

        Others distracting funnys
        lol ... I have to admit that this was one of my favorites. Made me laugh all over again.

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  • Profile picture of the author brentb
    Bwahaha! This is funny! But seriously, she doesn't take stances on any issues...

    The NYPD's stop-and-frisk practices raise serious concerns over racial profiling, illegal stops and privacy rights. However, when used appropriately a stop and frisk can help to protect the public against potential harm.
    So does that mean she is for it or against it? She is too flip floppy for me.

    But I hope she wins! Only for the fact that I would love to see these uppity rich good ol boy politicians freak out!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

    So there's this 22 year old female who aspires to hold a NY State Senate chair and she set up her campaign website. You've got to see it, complete with BRIGHT pink, sparkles, and leopard skin graphics (reminiscent of Myspace days).

    I won't keep you in suspense any longer

    http://mindymeyer4senate.com/index.html

    So, is this appropriate branding for a wanna be politician?
    Looks like a stunt for media attention about the "absurdity" of it.

    She's probably just trying to get popularity to help sell herself as a marketing tool to some company or another.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankWellington
    LOL! She openly admits "she's not corrupt."

    All United States Senators proudly wear their
    "badge of corruption" with honor.

    Unfortunately, Ms. Myers does not meet the
    qualification for United States Senator.
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    • Profile picture of the author brentb
      Originally Posted by FrankWellington View Post

      Unfortunately, Ms. Myers does not meet the
      qualification for United States Senator.
      Good call! Forgot about that one... I believe the age requirement is 30 years old as written in the Constitution.

      She is officially a moron...
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by FrankWellington View Post

      LOL! She openly admits "she's not corrupt."

      All United States Senators proudly wear their
      "badge of corruption" with honor.

      Unfortunately, Ms. Myers does not meet the
      qualification for United States Senator.

      If I read the story right, she is running for the New York Senate, not the U.S. Senate.


      Originally Posted by dv8domainsDotCom View Post

      I worry for a public that would vote for a reason as shallow as having a pink website. Idiocracy, anyone?

      I worry for a public that makes their voting decision solely upon the selection of colors on a website.


      Originally Posted by dv8domainsDotCom View Post

      Le question: So, is this appropriate branding for a wanna be politician?

      WOW! I have to say, she has DEFINITELY gotten the attention she wanted, BUT, not appropriate for a politician (especially somebody that claims to be conservative).

      Maybe to explain at least, why I feel this way.

      Her CHOICES (made deliberately) for this website bring attention to her campaign, and not necessarily to her policy. Her choices speak to how she may act if she were a senate member. Will she make decisions to incite? Will she make the RIGHT decision that is best for the 'whole' of a particular situation? Or will she try to find the most glamorous, titillating, "talk about me", crowd-appeal option (right or not) that meets the flavor of the month?

      There are plenty of candidates who have won political office with questionable backgrounds.

      Jesse Ventura won Minnesota's Governor's Chair after a pro-wrestling career and running as a third-party candidate. His "pink moment" can be seen here. His moment in pink did not prevent him from achieving success as a politician.

      Former New York Senator, Hillary Rodham-Clinton went on public TV to share her husband's infidelities with the world. That did not stop her from achieving high office.

      Bill Clinton didn't inhale. LOL

      George W. Bush did drink and drive.

      Ronald Reagan starred in a film called, "Bedtime for Bonzo", about humans raising a chimpanzee as parents raise children.

      There are tons of examples of "embarrassing things" that politicians have done, yet these things have not stopped those folks from attaining high office.

      A pink website, with leopard skin banners, is NOT going to prevent anyone from getting elected to any office, today, five years or fifteen years from now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        If I read the story right, she is running for the New York Senate, not the U.S. Senate.
        Ooooh, I see. I'd misread that completely.

        Never having been to America and being unfamilar with such niceties, I didn't actually know there was such a thing as the "New York Senate", and just took it as meaning that she's running to be a US Senator (I'd heard of that one).

        Ooh, well - that's different, isn't it? Local government? Well, you want a bit of pink in local government, for a change, don't you? :p
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Ooooh, I see. I'd misread that completely.

          Never having been to America and being unfamilar with such niceties, I didn't actually know there was such a thing as the "New York Senate", and just took it as meaning that she's running to be a US Senator (I'd heard of that one).

          Ooh, well - that's different, isn't it? Local government? Well, you want a bit of pink in local government, for a change, don't you? :p

          For a Senate seat, you go national (U.S. Senate) or state-level (New York Senate).

          At the state and national levels, there are also representatives.

          Most every state has senators at the state-level, but if I remember my civics schooling correctly, there are a couple of states that do it differently.

          At county and city level, there are not Senators, but commissioners and mayors.
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        • Profile picture of the author Coast2Coast
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Ooooh, I see. I'd misread that completely.

          Never having been to America and being unfamilar with such niceties, I didn't actually know there was such a thing as the "New York Senate", and just took it as meaning that she's running to be a US Senator (I'd heard of that one).

          Ooh, well - that's different, isn't it? Local government? Well, you want a bit of pink in local government, for a change, don't you? :p

          Well fwiw there are 62 NY state senatorial positions, she's running for the 21st District (Brooklyn), and the incumbent she's running against has a history of "anger issues" (presently on probation on 2 misdemeanor counts, reduced from original felony charge, for a run-in with a photog) among other things.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by Coast2Coast View Post

            Well fwiw there are 62 NY state senatorial positions, she's running for the 21st District (Brooklyn), and the incumbent she's running against has a history of "anger issues" (presently on probation on 2 misdemeanor counts, reduced from original felony charge, for a run-in with a photog) among other things.

            Well, that has nothing to do with creating a butt ugly website for a campaign. Don't really care about the politics of NY since politics is a no no topic on WF.
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by Vasilev View Post

              She's got the whole forum's attention...

              so, who is the marketer here....

              a whole bunch of people pretending to be so smart,
              or a dumb girl with a purple site

              hahahahahahhaha
              Vasilev, how smart is it to have the attention, mostly negative, of people who couldn't 'buy her offer' even if they were inclined to do so?

              Her campaign is for a state legislature position in a district that encompasses a fairly small section of a New York City borough.

              What attention she gets from a group of people outside that district is irrelevant.

              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              Ooooh, I see. I'd misread that completely.

              Never having been to America and being unfamilar with such niceties, I didn't actually know there was such a thing as the "New York Senate", and just took it as meaning that she's running to be a US Senator (I'd heard of that one).

              Ooh, well - that's different, isn't it? Local government? Well, you want a bit of pink in local government, for a change, don't you? :p
              Most states have legislatures that mirror the structure of the 'national legislature', aka Congress. The closest comparison (and likely model) I can come up with is your House of Lords and House of Commons.

              Miss Mindy is running for a seat in the New York State version of the 'House of Lords'.

              Easy to get confused, especially since her attention to detail allowed her to be pictured against the dome of the national Capitol building in Washington... :rolleyes:
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              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                Former New York Senator, Hillary Rodham-Clinton went on public TV to share her husband's infidelities with the world. That did not stop her from achieving high office.
                I seldom take issue with Bill but I do on this one. An unfaithful husband does not make the wife "questionable". Dignity in the face of scandal can make the wife appear strong, though.:p

                her attention to detail allowed her to be pictured against the dome of the national Capitol building in Washington..
                Maybe photo shopped by the same person who inserted an image the Constitution in a photo - with dimensions a bit off?
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                • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
                  Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                  I seldom take issue with Bill but I do on this one. An unfaithful husband does not make the wife "questionable". Dignity in the face of scandal can make the wife appear strong, though.:p
                  Agreed - her way of handling the situation became an asset to her, in most people's eyes...
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                  • Profile picture of the author andrewkar
                    she is more like porn star than politician. I wish you guys and gals she is not going to make it...
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                • Profile picture of the author tpw
                  Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                  Former New York Senator, Hillary Rodham-Clinton went on public TV to share her husband's infidelities with the world. That did not stop her from achieving high office.

                  I seldom take issue with Bill but I do on this one. An unfaithful husband does not make the wife "questionable". Dignity in the face of scandal can make the wife appear strong, though.:p

                  I was being nice to Hillary in mentioning that.

                  The first thing I remember about Hillary is.... Way TOO Political to mention here.
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              • Profile picture of the author Vasilev
                Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

                Vasilev, how smart is it to have the attention, mostly negative, of people who couldn't 'buy her offer' even if they were inclined to do so?

                Her campaign is for a state legislature position in a district that encompasses a fairly small section of a New York City borough.

                What attention she gets from a group of people outside that district is irrelevant.
                Didn't really get what I said, a...?

                It's ok...
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                • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                  Originally Posted by Vasilev View Post

                  Didn't really get what I said, a...?

                  It's ok...
                  I guess I didn't. I'm also guessing that I'm not alone.

                  Glad it's okay that I didn't understand whatever point you were trying to make. I was worried there for a minute that it might not be... :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author FrankWellington
        I stand corrected... Thank you, sir!

        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        If I read the story right, she is running for the New York Senate, not the U.S. Senate.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankWellington
    Please look at each one of her pictures...
    Notice how Ms. Myers NEVER touches
    anyone with her hands.

    No Brooklyn love!
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  • Profile picture of the author Vasilev
    She's got the whole forum's attention...

    so, who is the marketer here....

    a whole bunch of people pretending to be so smart,
    or a dumb girl with a purple site

    hahahahahahhaha
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I don't know whats more important to take from this thread.


    1) The fact that a drunken monkey could have executed this better...

    ORRR

    2) The fact we actually have warriors who seem to think this girls a genius.


    Either way, I am officially perplexed. Maybe if I get a bud out of the fridge I'll understand a little better. Too bad I don't drink.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Davis
    Seems like she'd be smart to have two sites -- mm4senate and mmforsenate.

    Keep the current one for the younger crowd (but will they vote???) - and a more conservative one to establish credibility.

    As for people focusing on the way she looks - I find it humorous but am not really surprised - there's not much at stake in the 'looks vs. qualifications' arena where politicians are concerned.

    I would, however, love to get on a plane with these male commenters and see what their reaction is to a hottie female pilot. When their immediate welfare is at stake, I'm guessing their thoughts are not on how the pilot looks (okay, well a little!), nearly as much as - God I hope this babe can really fly a plane!"

    Will be interesting to see how Mindy Meyers fares in November, and if she is elected, where she takes her branding from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsouravs
    sbucciarel I think this is a direct attack on any person.
    Based on just a web design we should not decide about a person's ability.
    If you see her gallery page then indeed she has a strong network.

    I dont know who designed the site but if she herself did it then may be she is not good at web design skills...Or may be she hired some newbie designer and they just used her fav color....She probably said it may work coz she is busy with Political studies rather than web design...

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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by dsouravs View Post

      sbucciarel I think this is a direct attack on any person.
      Based on just a web design we should not decide about a person's ability.
      If you see her gallery page then indeed she has a strong network.

      I dont know who designed the site but if she herself did it then may be she is not good at web design skills...Or may be she hired some newbie designer and they just used her fav color....She probably said it may work coz she is busy with Political studies rather than web design...

      Thak you.
      If you read the whole thread, you would see it wasn't an attack at all. I acknowledged her obvious intelligence (due to her degree and enrollment in law school).

      The thread was creating as a branding example that made me spit coffee all over the screen when I saw it. That is not a personal attack. I don't know this girl and don't care about her politics or anything else about her other than the appalling website she chose for a campaign site (which many other blogs and news organizations are equally appalled and amused by).

      She's young and ambitious and smart - but her website totally sucks in every way possible. If getting people to talk about you by laughing at you is an example of brilliant marketing, then all you people ought to mirror her and start putting up totally ridiculous websites ... or maybe standing on street corners in your undies playing a guitar with your [insert commercial message here] sign in front of you ... I believe there was someone called the Naked Cowboy who did that (also NY if I recall correctly).

      Will the website alone stop her dead in her tracks as a politician? Of course not and honestly, I don't care either way. I don't live in NY and don't vote there.

      I'm all for viral crazy stunts that make people laugh but you do have to consider the audience you are trying to reach and the goal of the publicity you'll get from it and while there have been many politicians "caught" doing crazy sh*t accidentally, most do not do it on purpose to further their political ambitions. I imagine there's a reason for that in the world of politics.

      I actually love the "naked cowboy" stunt, but then ... he's not running for an elected office.
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      • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        The thread was creating as a branding example that made me spit coffee all over the screen when I saw it. That is not a personal attack. I don't know this girl and don't care about her politics or anything else about her other than the appalling website she chose for a campaign site (which many other blogs and news organizations are equally appalled and amused by).
        For those offended on Senator Hopeful Mindy's behalf, this is what the thread is about - not to bash the lady or trash her reputation without knowing her, it's simply a critique on an admittedly horrid attempt at branding - which is absolutely germane to what we should be discussing here - it's part of our business. And yes, it is fun to poke fun at a bad attempt at presenting one's self to the public, same as comedians do every night on TV.

        No need for anyone to be offended about poking fun at a total stranger's website. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Pink, as a color is calming when you look at it, scientifically. Since some people were asking. It's only our stupid American macho culture that has made it a "girly" color. In other countries you don't see this nonsense and where grown men aren't afraid someone will think them "girly" if they wear a pink shirt. It'd be cool if we could outgrow that kind of nonsense at I don't know, the age of 10 or so? Ok off on a tangent here.

    But since this is America, people will think it's a not so serious website, perhaps.

    Also, as many have noted, if you target young voters it's not always going to take you far. On a national stage for sure. For one there are more old people as a demographic. For another, younger voters aren't as likely to vote as older voters.

    But anyway, I think her site is cool as it makes me smile and I hope she does well, regardless.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charanjit
    Is that for real or just a joke website? wow and you say us English have messed up wannabee politicians, at least it made me smile, if real life does not work just move to the states and run for politics.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimeTravelAgent
    Jesus ****ing christ. This joke is running for Senate? Did she really win the primaries?

    Ohgodwhy.
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      Originally Posted by TimeTravelAgent View Post

      Jesus ****ing christ. This joke is running for Senate? Did she really win the primaries?

      Ohgodwhy.
      aaaaaaaaaaaaand we're back to repeating page one comments. Think this has run it's course .
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        Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

        aaaaaaaaaaaaand we're back to repeating page one comments.
        Perfectly acceptable when your forum username is "Time Travel Agent."








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          Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

          Perfectly acceptable when your forum username is "Time Travel Agent."








          Haha Becky!

          Very clever! I used up all of my thanks yesterday on my 1,000th post thread and they haven't returned yet.

          But if I had them, you'd certainly get one!

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          Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

          Perfectly acceptable when your forum username is "Time Travel Agent."








          Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cpawhiz
    Wheres that ballot, my kind of candidate lol.
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    She isn't even pretty.
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    At least she's got the balls to take action and at least attempt to achieve a goal. Haters gona hate
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  • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

    So there's this 22 year old female who aspires to hold a NY State Senate chair and she set up her campaign website. You've got to see it, complete with BRIGHT pink, sparkles, and leopard skin graphics (reminiscent of Myspace days).

    I won't keep you in suspense any longer

    http://mindymeyer4senate.com/index.html

    So, is this appropriate branding for a wanna be politician?
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    Funniest thing I've seen today.

    Keeping to the theme of branding (and positioning) and away from politics, I think she's way off.

    Sure I'm 10 years older, male and live in the UK... I've no idea what the kids are doing these days but I reckon the people this appeals to aren't of voting age. Or don't vote.
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      Originally Posted by Kragsig View Post

      lol.. and when you want to watch photos you are taken to flikr.. Thanks for sharing, it was the "laugh of the day"
      OMG! I didn't see that! This just keeps gettin better!
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      • Profile picture of the author Rella
        Well, bless my leopard skin & spank my sparkles! Thanks for sharing! I really needed a laugh today and this does the trick.:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author lisag
    There is a lot of pent up anger from college students who perceive that the government is not delivering what was promised (I have 2 college kids, so I know from whence I speak). If she positions herself right to the 20-something group she might have a shot. Remember we're talking about kids who think pink hair and pierced-whatever, with lots of body ink, is a great look.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by lisag View Post

      Remember we're talking about kids who think pink hair and pierced-whatever, with lots of body ink, is a great look.
      She has the wrong image altogether for that crowd, wouldn't you say? She appears to be rather a conservative dresser, from all the photos on the site (apart from, arguably, one showing her in a pink jacket) ... :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author lisag
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        She has the wrong image altogether for that crowd, wouldn't you say? She appears to be rather a conservative dresser, from all the photos on the site (apart from, arguably, one showing her in a pink jacket) ... :confused:
        True. What I was trying to say is that this particular demographics isn't concerned about what people look like. It's no tan issue. They are more moved by sincerity and message and tend to trust people closer to their age group. And if you think about it, hasn't that always been the case with every generation?
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    Just when I thought this couldn't get any worse, the music starts....
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    Hell, I'd probably vote for her just to throw some current bum out!
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  • Casting my vote for "pop-tart idiot"
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  • Profile picture of the author GorillazGoods
    After seeing the website, I found it to be a very facepalm worthy moment. Obviously no respectable or logical person could ever take that seriously....but of course we've had unreputable people elected for respectable political positions before so I wouldn't count her completely out :-P
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  • Profile picture of the author jficarro
    don't some of those pics look like they are photoshop fakes? I'm not a photoshop expert, but the lighting and clarity of some of her pics doesn't look right.

    just wondering.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Rhodes
    The decadence of society is exemplified by this woman. She intends on applying for the position of a Senate while her marketing slogan is "I am a Senator and I know it." Has she ever watched the video of "I'm sexy and I know it"? The movements in the video are certainly questionable, but the fact that this woman is utilizing it for her popularity is beyond belief. I certainly would not wish for me to be associated with such a song.
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  • Profile picture of the author Topwriters
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    It's all PINK and bold...not to mention, the glittering fonts really make my eyes hurt. Do you think she'll have my vote?
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  • Profile picture of the author Socialbakers
    I don't think that people are even thinking about what they are doing a what consequences would their behavior bring. This is just ridiculous.
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      I can't believe this thread's still going! :p She obviously does have people talking :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by cjreynolds View Post

        I can't believe this thread's still going! :p She obviously does have people talking :rolleyes:
        People were talking ... in July. Now she's just another hideous website on the Internet. lol. Looked it up and there's no new news after the original swarm of OMG have you seen her website news.
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        • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          People were talking ... in July. Now she's just another hideous website on the Internet. lol. Looked it up and there's no new news after the original swarm of OMG have you seen her website news.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by lisag View Post

            True. What I was trying to say is that this particular demographics isn't concerned about what people look like. It's no tan issue. They are more moved by sincerity and message and tend to trust people closer to their age group. And if you think about it, hasn't that always been the case with every generation?
            I guess. I'm the same age as she is. (Talking of clothes, I was about to add that I just vote according to how high their heels are, but it suddenly struck me that someone might actually manage to take me seriously ).

            Originally Posted by Blame It On The Caffeine View Post

            Casting my vote for "pop-tart idiot"
            Ooh well, that settles it: elect the chick, by all means.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    It works well if her constituency is 12 years old.
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  • Profile picture of the author ScottGordon
    Mindy obviously likes to pose for pictures. She relates to the camera, not (apparently) to the people around her in the photos.

    The problem with the whole website is it's all about Mindy, not about the potential constituents. Even her "issues" page is all about Mindy.

    There's nothing on the site to engage me at all. Why should I care if she's the youngest woman to run for this office? What does that have to do with anything?

    Just based on what I see in the website, she is self-centered and somewhat phony. (Not all that different from many politicians, I suppose.) She doesn't seem to be the kind of person I would vote for. The statements on the "issues" page are pretty shallow.
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  • Profile picture of the author tooAlive
    I love how "I'm Sexy And I Know It" plays in the background.

    If she doesn't make the senate, at least she'll have a career in IM.
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