makelotsofmoneynowork.com or make-lots-of-money-no-work.com

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Hi all,

English is not my first language but my question probably has not too much to do with proper English.

Look at these two domain names:

makelotsofmoneynowork.com
or
make-lots-of-money-no-work.com

is an example. Which format should be preferred?

So far I always preferred the second format for my domains since I think it is easy to read and doesn't make you scratch you head what it means.

OTOH I see lots of domains using the first format which most of the time takes some time for me to get the meaning.

I was wondering why so many people use the first and hard to read format. Are there any advantages regarding SEO? Or does a native English speaker not have problems with it so it doesn't matter.

Thanks
dtm
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
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    I have domains with the slashes between words, but it doesn't help with SEO, and it looks strange to me.
    I would use the first example, and capitalize the first letter of each word. That makes it easier to read.
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  • Profile picture of the author NeverStop
    I think you'll find the general consensus is, having that many hyphens looks spammy and some would believe it may have a negative effect on your rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Hower
      Thanks, so it is indeed a matter of the language one it used to. In my native language something like vielgeldohnearbeit.com would look very strange. However, I am living in an English speaking country and I also target English speaking markets so I better adjust
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  • Profile picture of the author vCr8
    SEO wise, hyphenated domain names are more helpful because...www.make-lots-of-money-no-work.com is seen by google as; www.make lots of money no work.com this means your keywords will easily be pulled out by search engines. IMHO with domain names, either go for a single word domain or for a hyphenated one. Though I have multiwords non hyphenated domain names, these were made with branding at the back of my mind. It sure does look more professional with a non hyphenated multi word domain. So my advise to you is to register both domains and just redirect the non hyphenated domain to the hyphenated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bluestarace
    That's a long domain name, but I would go with the first one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tanner
    Originally Posted by dtm View Post

    Look at these two domain names:

    makelotsofmoneynowork.com
    or
    make-lots-of-money-no-work.com

    is an example. Which format should be preferred?
    The truthful format.

    MakeLotsOfMoneyLotsOfWork.com
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner View Post

      The truthful format.

      MakeLotsOfMoneyLotsOfWork.com
      I feel bad that I didn't mention this in my first post. Yeah, I would never buy with a URL like that. In fact the URL Branden just used....would actually attract more people. I'm serious.

      Always make your proposition deliver more than you promised. That's a pretty solid piece of advice , I think. Amazingly, you can promise less than you deliver and still make it sound amazing. That's a sales lesson I learned years ago.


      This isn't moral advice, it's marketing advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    Neither. The domain is a oxymoron. Making money with no work is a LIE. You would be lying to your prospects from the beginning by selling them a dream. That is like saying to a man you can fall in love with a beautiful woman by never talking to women. Do you see the disconnect in logic there?
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Both look very spammy.

      I'd go with a much shorter name.
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      Originally Posted by jamesrich1 View Post

      Neither. The domain is a oxymoron. Making money with no work is a LIE. You would be lying to your prospects from the beginning by selling them a dream. That is like saying to a man you can fall in love with a beautiful woman by never talking to women. Do you see the disconnect in logic there?
      I agree with James on this point, but between the two, I'd loose the hyphens.
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    • Profile picture of the author liindsay
      Originally Posted by jamesrich1 View Post

      Neither. The domain is a oxymoron. Making money with no work is a LIE. You would be lying to your prospects from the beginning by selling them a dream. That is like saying to a man you can fall in love with a beautiful woman by never talking to women. Do you see the disconnect in logic there?
      Umm, love at first sight?

      He wouldn't be the first or last to advertise misleading information about making money online. I see it everywhere,
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  • Profile picture of the author Krisz Rokk
    Using long tail keywords in the domain name is fine, but the domain name you chose is really long.
    In case you decide to buy a new domain name I would stick to the one without the hyphens - due to everything mentioned by the warriors above.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Hower
      Thank you all.

      I thought it was clear that my example was just an example and a bit ironic too. I did not want to use a domain name like in my first post.

      The only thing I wanted to know was if hyphens are better than no hyphens. In my mother tongue which is German people could not be bother decipering a domain name without hyphens since it is hard to read and you might need a few seconds to recognize the words.

      I somehow got the impression that it is totally opposite for English speakers, and that was the reason for my question.
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      • Profile picture of the author DJL
        Originally Posted by dtm View Post

        ...
        I thought it was clear that my example was just an example and a bit ironic too. I did not want to use a domain name like in my first post.
        Aha! You forgot to use the [irony]Irony[/irony] tags!

        Oh, never mind, the forum gods forgot to implement them.
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  • Profile picture of the author zigzag007
    Without hyphens is always best. IMHO
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
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    Roll with this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
    This is one of the dumbest possible domain names I've ever seen. Serious.

    It WREAKS of hype and garbage.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Hower
      Originally Posted by Chris Thompson View Post

      This is one of the dumbest possible domain names I've ever seen. Serious.

      It WREAKS of hype and garbage.
      No worries Chris, as I said above that example was intentionally dumb, and I forgot the irony tags indeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author smodha
      Originally Posted by Chris Thompson View Post

      This is one of the dumbest possible domain names I've ever seen. Serious.

      It WREAKS of hype and garbage.
      Wow...that's a bit harsh. I thought the WF forum was designed for questions like this?

      Nobody was born an IMer. It's a skill learnt by trial/error and asking LOTS of questions...
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    What does the Google Keyword Tool tell you? If you are using [EXACT] search then I very much doubt that English speaking humans will be searching Google for "make-lots-of-money-no-work".

    The only time I have seen hypens used in search terms if for Amazon products (TV model numbers etc).
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Hower
      Originally Posted by smodha View Post

      What does the Google Keyword Tool tell you? If you are using [EXACT] search then I very much doubt that English speaking humans will be searching Google for "make-lots-of-money-no-work".

      The only time I have seen hypens used in search terms if for Amazon products (TV model numbers etc).
      Hi Smodha, that's interesting. You are right about no one would search for "make-lots-of-money-no-work". However, that is probably the same for the other version. Who would search for "makelotsofmoneynowork"?

      Cheers
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  • Always go for the one without any - as a preffered domain.
    Make sure you do some research first with a keyword tool such as adword keyword. Make sure there are people searching for this exact match keyword.
    A good number is 1000+ searches for a micro niche site. Also look for low-medium competition keywords.

    Hope this helps
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