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Writer trying to make money. How?

by SeanMurphy91
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Hey guys,

I have been wanting to make money online for awhile now and i have come to the conclusion that writing may be the best fit for me. The only problem is, how can I get paid to write? Do you know any websites that may be helpful. I'm from Ireland. I have a few gigs up on Fiverr and I have sold some. I want to be making more then the 10 euro that I am currently making by writing online.

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kragsig
    odesk.com
    elance.com

    Odesk is the biggest
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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      I would look on oDesk but you do have to be careful on there that you apply to only the jobs that pay well. You can also put up an ad on the Warrior for Hire section of this website. It will cost you about $20 but you should be able to find some writing work there. You can also put up an ad on Craigslist offering your services and that is completely free.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
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    This forum also has a 'warriors for hire' section too.

    Also, have you considered ghost writing? It requires more work, but if your skills are good you can make more money.
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  • Profile picture of the author mdan287
    You can look on freelancer.com and guru.com.
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  • Profile picture of the author HN
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    Do you mean €10 a day? There are many ways to increase your earnings.
    1. Write more
    2. Charge more per article
    3. Write once, sell many copies of it (PLR)
    4. Team up with web developer, write for them for the share of profits.

    Options 1 and 2 have limits, obviously, since there are only 24 hours a day and there a certain amount that you can charge. Although some charge more than $100 per article, it might be difficult to find clients.
    Option 3 may also have it's limits since people probably won't buy if you sell unlimited copies of article because they don't want overused content.

    What I can offer to you is this. You write content for my website, and receive the share of profits what that page generates for as long as it stays up. It might be a few cents per month or a few bucks a day. Obviously it depends on content. If needed I can pay upfront. Let me know if you are interested. I do the niche research and promotion of website, you just write the content.
    I think I 'll post this to JV as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author solemanali
    I have clients who needs lot's of articles per month so show me some example of your writing if you are good then I will definitely hire you.
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    • Profile picture of the author SeanMurphy91
      Originally Posted by solemanali View Post

      I have clients who needs lot's of articles per month so show me some example of your writing if you are good then I will definitely hire you.
      I can't PM you yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanMurphy91
    Thank for the response guys. I have heard about sites like odesk but I am worried that you cant really earn much from them. Maybe I'll just give it and go and hope for the best!
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    • Profile picture of the author bxuhub
      Originally Posted by SeanMurphy91 View Post

      Thank for the response guys. I have heard about sites like odesk but I am worried that you cant really earn much from them. Maybe I'll just give it and go and hope for the best!
      I've been around working in odesk but currently I am pausing my writing gigs there as the quality of available works are declining. Still, it's worth a try.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel75
    Visit iwriter.com. You can start writing and earn income today!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lakshmi SEO
    Make a portfolio to show case your skills and latest published articles of yours. Approach internet marketers with your proposal, but you have to wait to get contacts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    I would second the suggestion to run your own ad in the Warriors for Hire section of this forum. Then link to the ad in your signature. Post links to sample articles and resist the urge to price yourself too low.

    Rose
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Originally Posted by SeanMurphy91 View Post

    Hey guys,

    I have been wanting to make money online for awhile now and i have come to the conclusion that writing may be the best fit for me. The only problem is, how can I get paid to write? Do you know any websites that may be helpful. I'm from Ireland. I have a few gigs up on Fiverr and I have sold some. I want to be making more then the 10 euro that I am currently making by writing online.

    Thanks!
    What methods are you currently using to make your €10? Can those be expanded? Can you charge more? Do more?

    What is your income goal? "More than €10" is not a goal. Set a specific number. Focus on it. Stay committed to achieving it until you reach it. Once you get close to reaching that number, set a new goal.

    You really don't give a lot of information in your post, so it's hard to give a good answer.

    If you are talking about your Fiverr gig, then you may want to change your description. You should use a "friendlier" image (nothing personal, but looking happy and/or professional helps). You also need to word it in a way that appeals to your potential customers. There are also some basic errors that need to be corrected.

    Like I said, it's nothing personal, but I wouldn't purchase articles from you based on your Fiverr description.

    Here are a few suggestions, these are my opinion only.

    I'm from Ireland
    Cool! But how does that help me?

    and am very interested in writing online.
    I don't want a writer that's "interested in writing". It sounds like you are testing the waters. Either you are a writer or not. Don't tell me you're "thinking about it." Question: Would you hire an electrician who was "interested in electricity"?

    Both my Written And Speaking English are fluent.
    If you mention being from Ireland to show that you are a native English speaker, then you don't need this line at all. However, as it is written now, you are actually proving that you are NOT fluent. You need to use the word "spoken", not "speaking". And "written" and "spoken" should not be capitalized.

    I never make spelling mistakes
    Yes, you do. Even the best writers MAKE the mistakes. The trick is that they catch those mistakes in the proofreading process.

    and have great grammar skills.
    Based on the above, your grammar is okay, but not great.

    Hopefully
    This makes you sound desperate.

    i can write some words for you
    My thought would be, "You can't even capitalize the word "I", so why should you write for me?"

    As you can see, there are a lot of problems, all of which can be fixed. HOWEVER, if this is the way you write, then I would strongly suggest you hone your skills before trying to sell your writing services.

    All the best,
    Michael
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    • Profile picture of the author SeanMurphy91
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      What methods are you currently using to make your €10? Can those be expanded? Can you charge more? Do more?

      What is your income goal? "More than €10" is not a goal. Set a specific number. Focus on it. Stay committed to achieving it until you reach it. Once you get close to reaching that number, set a new goal.

      You really don't give a lot of information in your post, so it's hard to give a good answer.

      If you are talking about your Fiverr gig, then you may want to change your description. You should use a "friendlier" image (nothing personal, but looking happy and/or professional helps). You also need to word it in a way that appeals to your potential customers. There are also some basic errors that need to be corrected.

      Like I said, it's nothing personal, but I wouldn't purchase articles from you based on your Fiverr description.

      Here are a few suggestions, these are my opinion only.

      Cool! But how does that help me?

      I don't want a writer that's "interested in writing". It sounds like you are testing the waters. Either you are a writer or not. Don't tell me you're "thinking about it." Question: Would you hire an electrician who was "interested in electricity"?

      If you mention being from Ireland to show that you are a native English speaker, then you don't need this line at all. However, as it is written now, you are actually proving that you are NOT fluent. You need to use the word "spoken", not "speaking". And "written" and "spoken" should not be capitalized.

      Yes, you do. Even the best writers MAKE the mistakes. The trick is that they catch those mistakes in the proofreading process.

      Based on the above, your grammar is okay, but not great.

      This makes you sound desperate.

      My thought would be, "You can't even capitalize the word "I", so why should you write for me?"

      As you can see, there are a lot of problems, all of which can be fixed. HOWEVER, if this is the way you write, then I would strongly suggest you hone your skills before trying to sell your writing services.

      All the best,
      Michael
      Thanks for the reply.

      Yes, I can see some of the mistakes I made. I was telling you that I'm from Ireland because a lot of the sites for writers are for Americans only. Just trying to narrow it down a little.

      To answer your questions, yes, I would hire a electrician that is interested in electricity. It shows that they have a interest in what they are doing and not simply doing it because it's something they have to do.

      My grammar may not be truly great but would you hire a writer that said their grammar was "OK".

      Thanks for pointing out my obvious mistakes. As you said, even the best writers make them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by SeanMurphy91 View Post

        Thanks for the reply.

        Yes, I can see some of the mistakes I made.
        It's not that you made a few mistakes, it's that you made 5 or 6 mistakes in the space of 36 words. That won't instill confidence in your potential clients.

        I was telling you that I'm from Ireland because a lot of the sites for writers are for Americans only. Just trying to narrow it down a little.
        Yep, then it's probably okay to keep the comment about being from Ireland.

        To answer your questions, yes, I would hire a electrician that is interested in electricity. It shows that they have a interest in what they are doing and not simply doing it because it's something they have to do.
        If they have the credentials to be an electrician, then I suppose they would already have an interest in it. But what if they only have an interest in it, but aren't qualified?

        My grammar may not be truly great but would you hire a writer that said their grammar was "OK".
        No, but I definitely would NOT hire a writer who claimed their OK grammar was great. But you don't have to waste space telling people you have good grammar, just show them with the other words in your description.

        Thanks for pointing out my obvious mistakes. As you said, even the best writers make them.
        Absolutely. I make them all the time. As long as you are willing to learn and make improvements, then you will be able to start picking up more clients.

        All the best,
        Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author easternodyssey
    I dont think there is much money in it in the long run. I would more try to create you own blog or website and try to earn an add revenue instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ninja Ana
    Writers in oDesk or Elance only get paid like $3.50 an article. If you want to make a good income out of writing, you can join Constant Content. Some clients pay $25-$50 for one well-written article.
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    • Profile picture of the author SeanMurphy91
      Originally Posted by Ninja Ana View Post

      Writers in oDesk or Elance only get paid like $3.50 an article. If you want to make a good income out of writing, you can join Constant Content. Some clients pay $25-$50 for one well-written article.
      I have heard about CC before. I will definitely try it out.
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      • Profile picture of the author 4DayWeekend
        Here on the WF and other related Internet Marketing forums are your best bet for picking up article work if that is what you're after.

        Yes you'll probably have to start off writing for a low value, but you'll build your reputation by supplying quality articles and then your clients will be willing to pay a bit more.

        It costs $20 to post in the Warrior For Hire thread but is well worth it. Just make sure that your advert is compelling and you have lots of examples of your work.
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    • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
      Originally Posted by Ninja Ana View Post

      Writers in oDesk or Elance only get paid like $3.50 an article. If you want to make a good income out of writing, you can join Constant Content. Some clients pay $25-$50 for one well-written article.
      Constant Content is a good outlet to put your writing up for sale, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you had some free time. It doesn't work like the "pay per project" freelance writing sites do.

      Sure, articles can sell for $25 to $50 or more. As a writer, you set the price. Problem is, most people don't realize the following:

      - Constant Content takes roughly 30% off of your sale price. That $25 article sale puts $17.50 in your pocket. Sure, you're still making money, but it's something you need to factor in.

      - You need to write a considerable amount of content at first to "get the wheels spinning".

      - The approval process is rigerous if you aren't careful. Make a small mistake a few times and you could get booted. Happens more frequently than you might think.

      - You don't get paid unless you sell an article. You could write 100 articles and have 70 sit there for months on end, never selling and never earning you money.

      Like I said, Constant Content is alright for someone who has some free time on their hands and wants to get rid of some articles, but I wouldn't use it exclusively. Plus, any clients you might get for a direct order HAVE to go through Constant Content and they STILL take out a 30% commission on that.

      Instead of having someone earn money off of your hard work, take advantage of freelance sites and places like the "Warriors for Hire" section here and BUILD YOUR OWN LIST of clientele. That way, you can stand a fighting chance to earn a decent amount of money, rather than work for pennies and struggle to survive.
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  • Profile picture of the author nbsteuv
    If the amount of work you're getting in a day isn't enough, iWriter and Textbroker are good places to start. They don't pay a lot and some clients will reject articles for no reason, but you don't have to bid on jobs and wait to get hired. That means you can get a steady stream of articles to write. When you get some practice, you can build your portfolio and set up a Warrior For Hire ad.

    Definitely look into creating PLR, blogging, and other ways to make residual income on what you write. These are solutions that will be the most lucrative for you in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Grace
    Instead of writing articles for peanuts, learn how to write sales copy. I made 6 figs my first year doing that.
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  • Profile picture of the author think more
    Here are some sites That will help you to sell your writing service

    Constantcontent.com
    Textbroker.com
    odesk.com
    elance.com
    and also the warrior forum.Just take a look at the Warriors for Hire section in this forum.You'll find lot of members selling their writing talent.You can also sell your service there.

    Gud luck
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  • Profile picture of the author KickAss Marketing
    You may search in craigslist there are a lot of clients looking for a full time writer. Or you may also go to myoutdesk. Which ever you prefer i can assure you they are both good.
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  • Profile picture of the author therichb
    The following means of sharing your writing skills will help you generate enough income opportunities online. Here they are as folllows:

    Ehow.com
    Constant Content
    Review Stream
    Triond
    Proz
    Helium

    These are the resources which once setup can generate you good revenues as you get associated with them on long term basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author praveenpious
    It is impressive that you could sell some gigs at Fiverr. I have tried over there with little success.

    In fact, I am facing the same situation.

    I bid for projects at oDesk and elance. However, I had little luck in finding good clients. Yes; I get personal messages from clients who offer $1.00 for 500 words. At the present time, I require at least a minimum of $4.00 for 500 words (I am already working with someone who pays me $3.50 for 500 words).
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  • Profile picture of the author Tanya E
    I write product reviews which pay better than articles in a niche. It does involve doing research and takes time but is more fulfilling for me.

    You can submit unique articles to various sites that pay for content but there are not many that pay well. iWriter pays according to defined tiers but it has to be approved by the person who ordered the article.
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  • Profile picture of the author writerval
    Carol Tice offers a lot of solid information on not only making money writing, but on how to rise above low-paying gigs on Make A Living Writing. Another good blog on this topic is All Freelance Writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ltrain_riders
    Go in business for yourself instead of writing for other companies. You will make more money if you started offering your own writing services. If you can write high quality articles then you can command a higher price. There's always a need for content writers.
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  • Profile picture of the author 2ndopkate
    Sean,

    As you have seen, it's always a good idea to represent your talent in the best light. I would recommend you develop a short personal profile and a simple website or even a Facebook page. Then develop your skills and an inventory of articles that show people you can produce great content. Start up a gallery of articles in EzineArticles.com that you can reference. BTW you can post those articles to your own website first and then out to EA. Those articles, if interesting and well written will be syndicated to other sites further expanding your reach.

    Here's an idea to get you started building a reputation. There are plenty of people looking for product reviews for electronics, toys, games, etc. Write a few of those and post to your own website under Samples..Product Reviews. Then create a signature like: Do you need product reviews written? Check out these examples of my work and check out my starter pack deal...

    Something like that.

    Good Luck, Kater!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChadClayton
    you can register yourself at freelancer.com

    or you can try fiverr.com

    Hope it is useful

    all the best in your success.
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    • Profile picture of the author praveenpious
      Originally Posted by ChadClayton View Post

      you can try fiverr.com
      He has already tried fiverr.com.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    vworker is a great site that nobody has mentioned. I have done a lot of work from there. The more sites you register with, the more chance you have of getting work.
    I know tons of sites that advertise jobs but you have to be persistent in applying because there is a lot of competition as well. Work on honing your skills and you'll make more money too.
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    • Profile picture of the author praveenpious
      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      vworker is a great site that nobody has mentioned.
      vWorker is good. However, they always send me invitations to the wrong set of projects. I seek new clients to offer me article writing work. On the other hand, I hardly get invitation to write from vWorker. For the sake of illustration, someone from vWorker just invited me to give a voice over to his presentation!
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  • Profile picture of the author Melanie Crouse
    Do you have any samples of your writing somewhere that I can view? I occasionally need to outsource some projects when I get too swamped and I'm always looking for new writers to outsource to.

    I would definitely recommend a Warrior for Hire Thread. That's how I got started and I could barely keep up with the orders.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eelco de Boer
      Hey Sean,

      If you're a writer, create your OWN product and start building a BUSINESS. It's a (time) investment but once you have your own product (e-book), you can start implementing all the advice you learn here on your BIZZ.

      Good luck man.

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    i suggest a warriors for hire thread, offering review copies to members, then getting great reviews will bring a lot of orders to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Do a google search on freelance writing sites, and join all of them and build your portfolio. You will still have to market your services in the "online world" also - so dont think that freelance sites is the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Originally Posted by SeanMurphy91 View Post

    Hey guys,

    I have been wanting to make money online for awhile now and i have come to the conclusion that writing may be the best fit for me. The only problem is, how can I get paid to write? Do you know any websites that may be helpful. I'm from Ireland. I have a few gigs up on Fiverr and I have sold some. I want to be making more then the 10 euro that I am currently making by writing online.

    Thanks!
    Please don't take this the wrong way. But if you're a writer, be a writer all the time. Your post, for example... Professionals always capitalize words like "I." Euro should also be capitalized. The word then should be than. That's three mistakes inside a very short paragraph. Not very impressive.

    People pay attention to what you post and as a writer you seem to be pretty sloppy. If I were looking for someone I'd pass you right by.

    Am I being picky? Of course. I want the most value for my money if I'm hiring someone and it doesn't look like you know or care about delivering value. I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to help. Again, if you're a writer, be a writer all the time. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author SeanMurphy91
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      Please don't take this the wrong way. But if you're a writer, be a writer all the time. Your post, for example... Professionals always capitalize words like "I." Euro should also be capitalized. The word then should be than. That's three mistakes inside a very short paragraph. Not very impressive.

      People pay attention to what you post and as a writer you seem to be pretty sloppy. If I were looking for someone I'd pass you right by.

      Am I being picky? Of course. I want the most value for my money if I'm hiring someone and it doesn't look like you don't know or care about delivering value. I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to help. Again, if you're a writer, be a writer all the time. Good luck.
      You're absolutely right. My post was sloppy. I'm just starting out and have already learned to be a professional at all times. If I never make a penny from writing, at least I learned a lesson!
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by SeanMurphy91 View Post

        You're absolutely right. My post was sloppy. I'm just starting out and have already learned to be a professional at all times. If I never make a penny from writing, at least I learned a lesson!
        Maybe you have learned your lesson, but now it's time to follow through on what you've learned.

        I made suggestions on how to fix your Fiverr.com profile a few days ago, and it is still the same.

        Then...

        I looked at some of your offers. Offers for WRITING!

        Here is just a sampling of the mistakes I found...and mistakes that are costing YOU money.

        I will deliver these within 24hours if possible and I can promise that they will be unique and well written.
        There should be a space in '24hours'. There should be a comma around 'if possible' (though I would either guarantee you can do it, or don't mention it at all). There should be a hyphen in 'well writtem'. That's 3 mistakes in 20 words, and yet you PROMISE that the articles will be well written [sic].

        I will write you a great article for you on any topic you want.
        The first 'you' isn't needed, and makes the sentence very sloppy.

        I will write two professional and unique, 200 to 300 word high quality article on the topic of your choice for $5
        There should, technically, be a hyphen after '200' and '300'. 'High quality' should also be hyphenated. You are going to write 'two articles', not 'two article'. There should be a period at the end of your sentence.

        You asked for our help. You don't need help finding places to offer your "writing", you need to be a better writer first. Please take that the right way, I really am trying to help.

        Perhaps you're not meant to be a writer, that's okay; there are many other ways to make money online. If you are serious about writing for money, then you MUST improve your skills. You can start by editing your current postings at Fiverr.com

        All the best,
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        • Profile picture of the author SeanMurphy91
          Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

          Maybe you have learned your lesson, but now it's time to follow through on what you've learned.

          I made suggestions on how to fix your Fiverr.com profile a few days ago, and it is still the same.

          Then...

          I looked at some of your offers. Offers for WRITING!

          Here is just a sampling of the mistakes I found...and mistakes that are costing YOU money.

          There should be a space in '24hours'. There should be a comma around 'if possible' (though I would either guarantee you can do it, or don't mention it at all). There should be a hyphen in 'well writtem'. That's 3 mistakes in 20 words, and yet you PROMISE that the articles will be well written [sic].

          The first 'you' isn't needed, and makes the sentence very sloppy.

          There should, technically, be a hyphen after '200' and '300'. 'High quality' should also be hyphenated. You are going to write 'two articles', not 'two article'. There should be a period at the end of your sentence.

          You asked for our help. You don't need help finding places to offer your "writing", you need to be a better writer first. Please take that the right way, I really am trying to help.

          Perhaps you're not meant to be a writer, that's okay; there are many other ways to make money online. If you are serious about writing for money, then you MUST improve your skills. You can start by editing your current postings at Fiverr.com

          All the best,
          Michael
          Thanks for pointing them out, Michael. I will edit them right away!
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        • Profile picture of the author SeanMurphy91
          Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

          Maybe you have learned your lesson, but now it's time to follow through on what you've learned.

          I made suggestions on how to fix your Fiverr.com profile a few days ago, and it is still the same.

          Then...

          I looked at some of your offers. Offers for WRITING!

          Here is just a sampling of the mistakes I found...and mistakes that are costing YOU money.

          There should be a space in '24hours'. There should be a comma around 'if possible' (though I would either guarantee you can do it, or don't mention it at all). There should be a hyphen in 'well writtem'. That's 3 mistakes in 20 words, and yet you PROMISE that the articles will be well written [sic].

          The first 'you' isn't needed, and makes the sentence very sloppy.

          There should, technically, be a hyphen after '200' and '300'. 'High quality' should also be hyphenated. You are going to write 'two articles', not 'two article'. There should be a period at the end of your sentence.

          You asked for our help. You don't need help finding places to offer your "writing", you need to be a better writer first. Please take that the right way, I really am trying to help.

          Perhaps you're not meant to be a writer, that's okay; there are many other ways to make money online. If you are serious about writing for money, then you MUST improve your skills. You can start by editing your current postings at Fiverr.com

          All the best,
          Michael
          You can't place a hyphen in the title of a gig.
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          • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
            Originally Posted by SeanMurphy91 View Post

            You can't place a hyphen in the title of a gig.
            I didn't know that. Perhaps you could find a way to re-word it so a hyphen isn't needed.

            Just a thought.

            All the best,
            Michael
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    Signup for writing pltaforms like elance iWriter etc.. Make good content, make demand, increase the price.
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    I’m a writer myself and I’m not native. Still I manage to write well; most of my clients are quite happy with my work. What I do when it comes to grammatical mistakes and sloppy words; I read them loud. It’s really difficult to detect your own mistakes but reading loud helps a lot. On top of this I use two grammar checking tools like The “Ginger” and MS Word’s own spell & grammar checker.



    And last but not least, I revise them once again after a few hours, this time I easily find what to edit before final delivery. Hope this helps.

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    you can try Freelancer.com

    all the best !! cheers.
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    I'm new here but I have been working in Odesk as a content provider for two years. You can try out Odesk and build your reputation there. The first months will be tough but once you get your first feedback, things will be easier. Aside from writing, clients can ask you to manage their blogs and web 2.0 sites. That way, you'll learn a lot of new things like on-page SEO and backlinking than can help you demand a higher pay in the future.
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