Is it possible to sell my list of single optins in my aweber account?

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Is this possible? If so where would I sell it and roughly how much could I get do you think?

They are built from solo ads
IM niche
230 ish in total

Thanks Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Have the people who opted in been told that you might "sell them" to someone else? And have they all agreed to that, in the process of opting in?

    If not, then clearly the answer to your question's "no". And even if they have, you may still have Aweber's terms of service to think about (especially if you ever want to use their service again).

    How would you feel about being "sold" like that, yourself, if you'd opted in to a marketer's list?

    What value do you expect the list to have to a potential purchaser who isn't the person to whom those people opted in?

    I suspect you may be a little confused about the purpose and function of list-building? It's all about relationship-building to establish personal credibility and trust. http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982
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    • Profile picture of the author sitefurnace
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Have the people who opted in been told that you might "sell them" to someone else? And have they all agreed to that, in the process of opting in?

      If not, then clearly the answer to your question's "no". And even if they have, you may still have Aweber's terms of service to think about (especially if you ever want to use their service again).

      How would you feel about being "sold" like that, yourself, if you'd opted in to a marketer's list?

      What value do you expect the list to have to a potential purchaser who isn't the person to whom those people opted in?

      I suspect you may be a little confused about the purpose and function of list-building? It's all about relationship-building to establish personal credibility and trust. http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982
      Alexa, that's all very noble and that but people 'sell' their lists all the time. It's known as running solo ads. Jeez I'm not selling slaves or anything I'm just asking if it's technically possible and seeing if anyone else could benefit from them rather than just shutting the account down.

      What's the purpose of a list you say? I think you may be a little confused if you think that people go to all that effort of building a list and paying their monthly Aweber fees to have some bunch of cyber friends that think you're great. The purpose - even if you don't want to admit it is TO MAKE MONEY.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by TomYevsikov View Post

        No it's impossible.

        aweber's terms of service wont allow that and I am pretty sure the haven't opted in and agreed to be sold..lol..
        You're right, of course, Tom ... but it turns out that in spite of the title line saying "sell my list", that's now not what he's asking about at all, apparently.

        Originally Posted by sitefurnace View Post

        Alexa, that's all very noble and that but people 'sell' their lists all the time. It's known as running solo ads.
        No, it just isn't, Paul: doing solo ads is something totally different from selling a list! One relates to the credibility and trust you've built up with the subscribers and the other doesn't; and that's the point you're missing. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Have the people who opted in been told that you might "sell them" to someone else? And have they all agreed to that, in the process of opting in?

      If not, then clearly the answer to your question's "no". And even if they have, you may still have Aweber's terms of service to think about (especially if you ever want to use their service again).

      How would you feel about being "sold" like that, yourself, if you'd opted in to a marketer's list?

      What value do you expect the list to have to a potential purchaser who isn't the person to whom those people opted in?

      I suspect you may be a little confused about the purpose and function of list-building? It's all about relationship-building to establish personal credibility and trust. http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982

      Great point. If you want to make your list earn you some extra income from time to time you could do solo ads but you then risk losing a list to another marketer. Also you have to think about how your list would feel about it. I personally like to keep the relationships I build. Seems like everyone wins in the end that way. At least it is what's working for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketinguk
    Originally Posted by sitefurnace View Post

    Is this possible? If so where would I sell it and roughly how much could I get do you think?

    They are built from solo ads
    IM niche
    230 ish in total

    Thanks Paul
    Right so there's a number of points to consider most of which Alexa has already covered.
    1. "Is it possible to sell my list of single optins in my aweber account?" The answer to that is yes it's possible. Q. Should you do that? A. Definitely not. From the way you are writing I am pretty confident that you didn't ask your subscribers before they opted in, which means that both ethically and according to Aweber's TOS you shouldn't do so.
    2. Whoever would think of purchasing these leads should ask themselves why they would want to do this. For example when I was a newbie I bought a site that had almost 10,000 subscribers coming as a bonus with it.

    These were unrelated to the site itself but the seller had picked up these subscribers through a Fbook marketing campaign. When I discovered this I decided to chuck the whole list away as they're not my leads and if I were in their shoes and got contacted by someone I didn't know I would have been tempted to report the sender for spam. Now if 500 of that 10,000 list reported me it wouldn't do me much good would it?

    3. "If so where would I sell it and roughly how much could I get do you think?

    They are built from solo ads
    IM niche
    230 ish in total"
    Instead of trying to sell them, why not try and build a rappport with them and provide them with valuable content and information that can assist them in their business (why did they subscribe in the first place).

    Joel
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    You can make money on the list though and offer solo ads yourself, 230 is enough. Just post in the classified section and charge a nominal rate of about 10 dollars per 50 emails Let them know you only have 230 prospects and at the same time continue to build your list.

    Safe swap can help you do that.
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    • Profile picture of the author sitefurnace
      Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke View Post

      You can make money on the list though and offer solo ads yourself, 230 is enough. Just post in the classified section and charge a nominal rate of about 10 dollars per 50 emails Let them know you only have 230 prospects and at the same time continue to build your list.

      Safe swap can help you do that.
      Thanks I'll look into that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
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    Here's an idea:

    You could sell solo ads yourself. It's a small list so you couldn't charge much, but you could sell ads over and over for a while, until you burnt out the list. This way you at least make a little money rather than just throw it away.

    Setup a Fiverr gig or Classified Ad here at WF.

    Good luck!

    -Jeff

    [EDIT: I took too long to type this out and guy above me submitted same idea first ]
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    • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
      Sorry age beat youth this time lol.
      Originally Posted by Jeff Burritt View Post

      Here's an idea:

      You could sell solo ads yourself. It's a small list so you couldn't charge much, but you could sell ads over and over for a while, until you burnt out the list. This way you at least make a little money rather than just throw it away.

      Setup a Fiverr gig or Classified Ad here at WF.

      Good luck!

      -Jeff

      [EDIT: I took too long to type this out and guy above me submitted same idea first ]
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  • Profile picture of the author TomYevsikov
    No it's impossible.

    aweber's terms of service wont allow that and I am pretty sure the haven't opted in and agreed to be sold..lol..

    (write your name and email adress below to recieve your free gift and be sold, ok?)
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    I guess lots people just buy solo ads and then sell them as solo ads.

    This would be okay as long as you send your list extremely HIGH QUALITY FREE Offers!

    Not just any old junk so is this what you are planning on doing then, you are ready to do a solo ad of some sort?

    Good luck anyway SiteFurnace!
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    I'm not sure what you mean by "selling" them..
    if you want to sell this list to other list builders by giving the entire data, then I think it's not what you want to do to make money. It's always better for you to do adswap than selling it to other people.
    Why don't you just do adswap when you don't need to lose them, and you will not violate their privacy and your credibility won't be hurt.
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    • Profile picture of the author sitefurnace
      Originally Posted by visimedia View Post

      I'm not sure what you mean by "selling" them..
      if you want to sell this list to other list builders by giving the entire data, then I think it's not what you want to do to make money. It's always better for you to do adswap than selling it to other people.
      Why don't you just do adswap when you don't need to lose them, and you will not violate their privacy and your credibility won't be hurt.
      All I have done is a little test to see if using solo ads work to build a list. I have accumulated just over 200 and had a little success offering affiliate products. I feel that this kind of business model is not for me so I want to close my Aweber account - I don't want to pay the monthly fee anymore.

      To close the account and loose all those leads seems a little bit of a shame as someone else who is building a similar list could benefit from this - especially as it would cost around $250 to replicate.

      All I am asking is if it is technically possible to sell this aweber account or transfer the subscribers to someone.

      I can't see why this is a problem as businesses are sold all the time that include a list of subscribers - for example https://flippa.com/2745760-over-2-500-per-month-12-000-unique-visitors-1-132-list-clickbank-site
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by sitefurnace View Post

        All I have done is a little test to see if using solo ads work to build a list. I have accumulated just over 200 and had a little success offering affiliate products. I feel that this kind of business model is not for me so I want to close my Aweber account - I don't want to pay the monthly fee anymore.

        To close the account and loose all those leads seems a little bit of a shame as someone else who is building a similar list could benefit from this - especially as it would cost around $250 to replicate.

        All I am asking is if it is technically possible to sell this aweber account or transfer the subscribers to someone.

        I can't see why this is a problem as businesses are sold all the time that include a list of subscribers - for example https://flippa.com/2745760-over-2-500-per-month-12-000-unique-visitors-1-132-list-clickbank-site
        Selling a list and selling an entire business, where the list is one of the assets transferred with the sale, are two different things.

        If you built the list using the basic "we will never sell, share or trade your address" rhetoric, and you turn around and sell the list, it's a breach of trust.

        If you want to sell the entire business, just announce the sale and introduce the new owner. Then pocket the proceeds and walk away.
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  • Profile picture of the author tftom
    I have a list of about 750 subscribers that were built using someone else's opt-in. I am also looking to sell my list.

    I purchased a service that was also supposed to build a list and give me a series of 14 autoresponders. The problem is that the AR emails given to me were tailored specifically for that marketer's program, so I couldn't use it whatsoever. They told me to find some affiliate programs and send those to my list. You would know the people involved if I named them. They sell on this forum and are well known for list building, so I am quite disappointed to say the least.

    I readily admit that I jumped into this without thinking it through. Building and maintaining a list is all about relationship. I get that now, but honestly this is not for me. I am in other IM segments that don't require a list. I simply don't have the time to make a list work. I admit I was thinking more like, "If only some of these subscribers buy every month I will break even." That's the wrong mentality, but at least I am being upfront about it.

    Anyway, the company who didn't deliver what was promised left me in an awkward position. I don't want to just walk away from all those subscribers. Someone else can provide something better than I can, so I don't consider it wrong to pass the list onto someone else. I am selling the list once and not emailing them any further. It's not like they subscribed to some well known marketer expecting something other than affiliate offers.

    What's my best option?

    BTW, they wouldn't give me a refund.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewStark
    As you're closing down the aweber account and don't see the value in the people who joined they why do you think that someone else would want to buy them?

    Listen to Alexa, and next time you try to build a list focus more on relationships and content than trying to make money. Go and learn about reciprocity and then you might see why some people are good email marketers vs all the snake oil salesmen.
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  • Profile picture of the author tftom
    For what it's worth there were no promises posted that emails would never be sold on the the signup page, so there's no breach of trust.
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  • Profile picture of the author TeamBringIt
    Originally Posted by sitefurnace View Post

    Is this possible? If so where would I sell it and roughly how much could I get do you think?

    They are built from solo ads
    IM niche
    230 ish in total

    Thanks Paul
    You could sell a list YOU built. Only issue is that, the next person will have no relationship with them and will not make a dime off that list....
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  • Profile picture of the author JabMonkey
    Sell solo ads on Fiverr. The size list you have is only worth about $5 anyhow. Then work on building it up more and charge more as an extra gig when you do.

    Of course if the list you have now is unresponsive, then it's worthless imo, but you can change that if you work on it.
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