Sites that ACTUALLY Send Traffic (because EzineArticles.com is dead!)

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Warriors,

As many of you probably already know, article directories like EzineArticles.com are not NEARLY as effective as they used to be. It's a HUGE time waste.

So if you're looking for sites that ACTUALLY send traffic - here are a few of my favorites...

BlogEngage.com
Blokube.com
BetterNetworker.com
BizSugar.com
Business2Community.com
Biznik.com

Feel free to add to this list if you'd like
#dead #ezinearticlescom #send #sites #traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenBernard
    Thanks, I will check them out!
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerd4
    Dear Kim,
    what is the best, based on your experience?

    I am more interested to learn from your experience....
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  • Profile picture of the author JayParker
    Thanks for the tip Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

    article directories like EzineArticles.com are not NEARLY as effective as they used to be. It's a HUGE time waste.
    That's not my experience at all, Kim.

    Many of us here who are making increasingly good livings through article marketing are actually finding Ezine Articles, in particular, since the Panda updates and the Penguin update, are no less useful at all as a way of getting our articles syndicated.

    That is the purpose of article directories, you know?

    We're all people using article directories for the purpose for which they exist in the first place - not to try to get potential customer traffic from them to our own sites. No article marketer wants to try to do that, because we all lose most of that traffic: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5075780

    It's not at all true to say that Ezine Articles isn't as effective as it used to be.
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      That's not my experience at all, Kim.

      Many of us here who are making increasingly good livings through article marketing are actually finding Ezine Articles, in particular, since the Panda updates and the Penguin update, are no less useful at all as a way of getting our articles syndicated.

      That is the purpose of article directories, you know?

      We're all people using article directories for the purpose for which they exist in the first place - not to try to get potential customer traffic from them to our own sites. No article marketer wants to try to do that, because we all lose most of that traffic: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5075780

      It's not at all true to say that Ezine Articles isn't as effective as it used to be.
      Make believe visitors don't count.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Roach
    Hey Alexa,

    From our stats - EzineArticles.com is sending a LOT less traffic.

    How much traffic are you getting per article?

    For me, if I'm not getting at least 100 visitors per article - then my time is better spent somewhere else.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

      From our stats - EzineArticles.com is sending a LOT less traffic.
      Nobody's disputing that, Kim.

      But that isn't what article directories are there for. It isn't how they work.


      Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

      For me, if I'm not getting at least 100 visitors per article - then my time is better spent somewhere else.
      You're using an article directory to try to draw potential customer traffic to your site? No disrespect meant at all, Kim, but that isn't what article directories are for! Posts #2 and #6 of this thread explain in detail, if you're interested: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

      My point is that it's pretty unfair and unreasonable to announce that "Ezine Articles isn't working any more" when you've been trying to use it for a purpose it was never designed to fulfil in the first place!!

      Sorry, I'm not trying to "pick on you" but all these threads with titles announcing that "things are dead" do become a little tiresome after a while, as so many have been commenting.

      Articles in EZA are there to be found by publishers, not by customers.

      And it's every bit as good for that purpose as it ever has been.

      So to announce that it's "dead" is simply untrue. Sorry!
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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        You're using an article directory to try to draw potential customer traffic to your site? No disrespect meant at all, Kim, but that isn't what article directories are for!
        No fighting please.

        Alexa - I think you're only arguing because you're being pedantic about the wording of Kim's post.

        In your own words - "so that you can get targeted traffic from publishers who have the traffic/subscribers "

        So tell Kim she's wrong for looking to get traffic from posting articles can only possibly "wrong" if you meaning something different when you read her words - maybe you mean that the places that republish your content and send you traffic are sites other than EZA and you're picking on Kim's comment because you want to highlight that you mean posting their gets people that pick up content from there to send you traffic, rather than that you expect direct traffic from EZA when posting an article there?

        Anyhow - While I agree that blanket "x is dead" statements are usually wrong, I think you're arguing over semantics here rather than just getting to the point.

        Do you get much direct traffic from EZA? maybe not - do you get much traffic from posting on EZA - it's a definitely possibility, I know I have.

        Anyway - it DID used to send a lot of direct traffic, so it definitely HAS reduced in that sense.

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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

          Do you get much direct traffic from EZA?
          No - very little, thankfully! These days that problem's gone. EZA is working better for us than ever, as so many article marketers have been so repeatedly commenting in so many threads.

          Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

          Anyway - it DID used to send a lot of direct traffic, so it definitely HAS reduced in that sense.
          That's a good thing, not a bad thing. That helps article marketers. It makes it easier and more worthwhile for us to use EZA for the purpose for which it exists, without worrying that we lose traffic there.

          Nobody wants 100 potential customers going from Google to EZA when only 25/30/35 of them will reach their own site that way. It's obviously better to have those 100 people going from Google straight to your own site, because that way you get 3 or 4 times as many of them at your site. That part of it is "as simple as that".

          To refer to "sites that ACTUALLY send traffic because EZA is dead" is completely illogical, Andy. You know it and I know it. It's implying (in fact a little more than just "implying") that the purpose of EZA is to send traffic. This isn't so. It's an article directory, for Heavens' sake: it's there for publishers to look up articles there to re-publish. That's what an article directory is.

          Sorry, I'm not trying to cause or provoke any arguments, but to start a thread off by dismissing Ezine Articles as "a HUGE time waste" is just desperately misleading.

          It's just factually wrong.
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        • Profile picture of the author marketinguk
          Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

          Warriors,

          As many of you probably already know, article directories like EzineArticles.com are not NEARLY as effective as they used to be. It's a HUGE time waste.

          So if you're looking for sites that ACTUALLY send traffic - here are a few of my favorites...
          I'm sure Alexa will correct me if i'm wrong here, but I was fully expecting her to come on to this thread and answer in the way she has done. The reason is your thread title starts "Re: Sites that ACTUALLY Send Traffic". If you had left the title at that and said for the affiliate or whatever there's been a large drop in direct traffic from EZA, and thus here's some alternatives in where to get direct traffic then I think Alexa would have accepted that.

          However, you're title says for some reason " (because EzineArticles.com is dead!)" which is facually incorrect, and coming from someone who many people myself included respect your views on IM is something which wouldn't easily go unnoticed.

          You then procceeded to say - "
          As many of you probably already know, article directories like EzineArticles.com are not NEARLY as effective as they used to be. It's a HUGE time waste."

          Making such a blanket statement in addition to what you wrote in your thread title without explaining that you are aware that trying to get direct traffic is not the way article directories work, but for those seeking it as a source for direct traffic it isn't as effective as it used to be is what bothered Alexa (and me to a limited degree).

          In short I know what you're getting at and Andy Henry summed it up pretty well in that you meant for direct traffic but you could have left out "(because EzineArticles.com is dead!)" which isn't true, and your blanket statement that it's a waste of time. Who's it a waste of time for? A. For direct traffic seekers - definitely. B. For people like Alexa et al who never used it for that in the first place, it's as effective as ever.

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          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          That's not my experience at all, Kim.

          Many of us here who are making increasingly good livings through article marketing are actually finding Ezine Articles, in particular, since the Panda updates and the Penguin update, are no less useful at all as a way of getting our articles syndicated.

          That is the purpose of article directories, you know?

          We're all people using article directories for the purpose for which they exist in the first place - not to try to get potential customer traffic from them to our own sites. No article marketer wants to try to do that, because we all lose most of that traffic: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5075780

          It's not at all true to say that Ezine Articles isn't as effective as it used to be.
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    Kim,

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  • Profile picture of the author Monitium
    It is true that article marketing is starting to feign but it is still a very good source of visitors for me and it does help with SEO some. Adding any social media to the mix of the articles gives the articles a real boost, so combined is working for me for article marketing. Thanks for the tip on where to get some more real traffic !
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Roach
    Hey Alexa,

    If you're getting good results from Ezinearticles.com that's super!

    Feel free to post what kind of results you're getting.

    Personally, I'd rather have both benefits - direct traffic AND high-quality backlinks.
    So from that perspective you can get much faster results using something as simple
    as guest blogging.

    For example, I did a guest post for SmartPassiveIncome.com and received a little over 1,600 visitors and a VERY high quality backlink. Although personally I'm not into SEO because I
    find it a slow way to build a business.

    But I'd love to hear more about your specific results.

    Cheers,

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    • Profile picture of the author therichb
      Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

      Hey Alexa,

      If you're getting good results from Ezinearticles.com that's super!

      Feel free to post what kind of results you're getting.

      Personally, I'd rather have both benefits - direct traffic AND high-quality backlinks.
      So from that perspective you can get much faster results using something as simple
      as guest blogging.

      For example, I did a guest post for SmartPassiveIncome.com and received a little over 1,600 visitors and a VERY high quality backlink. Although personally I'm not into SEO because I
      find it a slow way to build a business.

      But I'd love to hear more about your specific results.

      Cheers,

      Kim
      A good way to subscribe a bulk of traffic is through video marketing & web 2.0 sites. They help me a lot to drive visitors to my site in a perfect way.

      I mostly look in this way, if traffic is higher, doesnt matters, whats the conversion rate, that matters a lot....

      Giving your traffic something when they come to your site is one of the important things I found, dont let them leave your site for long & give them something to remember you !!!
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    • Profile picture of the author m00n11t3
      Ezinearticles is so difficult to get published. When I first attempted to write an article there, my time ran out and I was logged out of my post. I had written a 2,000 word article that was completely erased after I attempted to log in.

      I guess it was my own failure to recognize that I should have written it down on a word document first to have it saved on my hard drive and copy and paste it onto the site but I have to say that it made me lose a lot of credibility towards that site.

      Other than that, I've written articles with proper documentation and references to peer review'd articles that have failed to pass the proper documentation formatting. Meaning, the site has made it more difficult for me to publish an article unless it is very well written. Has anyone else faced this dilemma?

      I have found GoArticles to be much safer and easier to deliver the content necessary, and with its little awards that I get from the articles I write, it honestly make me feel quite proud to have my posts there....
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Hi m00n11t3,

        Originally Posted by m00n11t3 View Post

        Ezinearticles is so difficult to get published. When I first attempted to write an article there, my time ran out and I was logged out of my post. I had written a 2,000 word article that was completely erased after I attempted to log in.

        I guess it was my own failure to recognize that I should have written it down on a word document first to have it saved on my hard drive and copy and paste it onto the site
        More to the point, if you'll excuse my mentioning it, you shouldn't ever be submitting "unique" (i.e. previously unpublished) content to Ezine Articles or to any other article directory. They belong on your own site first, and you should have them indexed there before they go anywhere else at all. Article directories don't require previously unpublished content. And it takes only a minute to paste a copy in to EZA's submission-box a day or two later.

        That way, in the long run you're building up your own site and business rather than EZA's.

        When you have time, if you have a read through this long thread, you'll see many of the successful article marketers here explaining in great detail and at great length all their shared reasons for always doing it this way round: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

        There's no need to give up all the initial indexation-rights to someone else's site, when you can just as easily gradually accumulate them for your own site.

        This thread may help, also: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

        This post explains why no article marketer should want potential customers going from a search engine to an article directory and only from there to the marketer's own site.

        And welcome to the forum.
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        • Profile picture of the author agmccall
          Here is my 2 cents.

          I have published several articles on Ezine articles. It is the only site, other than my own, that I publish articles.

          I have never received one referral from EZA to my site.

          But, when viewing my Google analytics and looking at referring sites I will always notice sites that I have never dealt with. When I click to view where the referral is coming from, it is from someone that has re-published my article.

          I do not post my articles for links or traffic, but I get it anyway

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        • Profile picture of the author jficarro
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Hi m00n11t3,



          More to the point, if you'll excuse my mentioning it, you shouldn't ever be submitting "unique" (i.e. previously unpublished) content to Ezine Articles or to any other article directory. They belong on your own site first, and you should have them indexed there before they go anywhere else at all. Article directories don't require previously unpublished content. And it takes only a minute to paste a copy in to EZA's submission-box a day or two later.

          That way, in the long run you're building up your own site and business rather than EZA's.
          Alexa, do you have any favorites. I am an author at a bunch of sites, but haven't published in a long time because I was worried about some of the things that you've cleared up here (that was an awkward sentence!).

          Anyway, what sites do you think are best for syndication?

          And thanks OP - I cut and pasted the ones you mentioned.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by jficarro View Post

            Alexa, do you have any favorites. I am an author at a bunch of sites, but haven't published in a long time because I was worried about some of the things that you've cleared up here (that was an awkward sentence!).

            Anyway, what sites do you think are best for syndication?
            From my own experience Ezine Articles, in all 8 of my niches, has been incomparably better than everywhere else I've ever tried all added together. And even that's putting it very mildly.

            When I put copies of articles into article directories, I change something (usually substituting a semi-colon for a comma - something nobody else will notice) so that I can always tell, when I unearth syndicated copies later, where they came from. More than 99% of the "passive syndication" I've achieved over the years has been through EZA. And that does seem gradually but consistently to be improving, and for many of us (another reason it's a little strange to find all these threads proclaiming it "dead"! ).

            Note that that 99%+ figure is the proportion of my passive syndication - not the proportion of my syndication. Most of my syndication is direct/active, though Ezine Articles was what got me started in the first place.

            Look at it from the prospective publisher's/webmaster's/ezine owner's perspective: they need content all the time for their publications/ezines/websites, and they know that's what article directories are there for. Which is the longest-established well-known one that they've all heard of, where they instinctively look first for content to publish?

            I admit I often put a copy of mine in either GoArticles or ArticlesBase in addition to EZA, but I can't honestly claim any real benefits from that. I suspect that many publishers/webmasters who do look there have looked first in EZA and are just being "thorough".

            (And long ago, before I understood how article marketing works, I spent many months submitting every article - or variations of them - to 8 different article directories: now that really was a "HUGE time-waste"! :rolleyes: ).

            More important than this, though, are two other things ...

            (i) to appreciate that this is only "passive syndication" (i.e. it's dependent on others happening to find it, albeit that that's where they look, and happening to take it, rather than offering it to them directly), and that any kind of active syndication is typically going to be faster, much more reliable and much more productive all around - explained in this post: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794

            (ii) that to achieve benefits from article syndication, your articles need to be both (a) written for syndication (explained in this post) and (b) actually syndicated (many suggestions here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6575732 ).
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      • Profile picture of the author dblgdee
        Other than that, I've written articles with proper documentation and references to peer review'd articles that have failed to pass the proper documentation formatting. Meaning, the site has made it more difficult for me to publish an article unless it is very well written. Has anyone else faced this dilemma?
        Google stated almost emphatically a long time ago that they don't care much for article marketing.
        If you're publishing articles with worthy content, as opposed for just getting links back to your site,there should be no problem.
        The problem is that after being hit hard in the Panda update, EZA now have editors that scrutinize your content to decide if it is worthwhile. So proper formatting is almost irrelevant.
        The problem is that this is now very subjective...
        Editors can reject your material for no reason, they can accept it one day and reject it the next day.
        The inherent danger about using services such as EZA.
        Nebulous and arbitrary
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    • Profile picture of the author gpimienta
      Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

      Hey Alexa,

      For example, I did a guest post for SmartPassiveIncome.com and received a little over 1,600 visitors and a VERY high quality backlink. Although personally I'm not into SEO because I find it a slow way to build a business.


      Kim
      Kim can you explain what a guest post is in terms of a guest blogger. I have read about this around the internet but still don't understand.

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
    Kim, I think you're still missing the point...

    The idea behind EZA isn't backlinks, and it's not direct traffic either... the whole idea of an article directory (any article directory, not just EZA) is to get your articles in front of the eyeballs of publishers who may then include your articles on their sites, re-print them in their newsletters, or do other activities which may then result in traffic and backlinks.

    That's syndication... they take your content, and broadcast it to their eyeballs, through their delivery method.

    EZA itself was never intended to be a direct traffic source, it was always intended to be a directory by which OTHER publishers could find content to use on their own websites, etc... that's where the traffic, backlinks, and benefits to you should be coming from, and that's what you need to be tracking.

    When you publish in EZA, or any other directory, you should expect nothing... you should only expect to see results coming from 3rd party sites.

    We all know that EZA, in the past, was a provider of traffic... but it was never intended to be, which is why Google slapped the hell out of it, and put it (and all other article directories) back in their place.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Roach
    That's cool. So how's it working for you Gary?

    I love hearing a different viewpoint. But it doesn't really count for much if you don't have any stats behind it.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

      That's cool. So how's it working for you Gary?

      I love hearing a different viewpoint. But it doesn't really count for much if you don't have any stats behind it.
      You don't get them on this site.

      This isn't aimed at Alexa. She's told me stats that I never even asked for.

      But everyone likes to tell you it's the best thing ever.

      I've not tried it yet, but I will do. I've got other ways to get decent traffic at the moment. I just get bored hearing the same thing from everyone and the article syndicators are the only people in the whole IM game that don't tell anyone stats.

      I think that's why it gets on my nerves hearing it on here. I've been on too many forums where newbies come onto the forum and read something then start giving out advice to everyone saying it's the best thing ever.

      Alexa, MYOB, John, the one from the UK that lives in America etc All the bigger ones that's fine, but it just seems a bit iffy that everyone else preaches it after reading one of Alexa's threads while looking down at anything else someone does.
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      • Profile picture of the author dpwilliams
        Alexa I think you need to re-read the title of this post. This post was directed at the thousands of folks that have used Ezine Articles in the past to drive traffic directly to their sites...Not the folks that understand what Ezine Articles was actually designed to do...

        Here's that title again...
        Sites that ACTUALLY Send Traffic (because EzineArticles.com is dead!)

        It's a shame you had to jump in here and take the focus off what this thread was intended to do...and that is provide some very valuable information to folks wanting to learn some new ways to get traffic...Hopefully we can stop the bickering and let Kim get on with the discussion.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by dpwilliams View Post

          Alexa I think you need to re-read the title of this post.
          I read it. It says "EZA is dead". This is completely wrong.

          I read the OP, too. It says that EZA is a "HUGE waste of time". This is also completely wrong.

          Here's my point: that's very like the guy who goes into a shop and buys a car radio, takes it home and brings it back the next day saying "I want a refund: we simply couldn't cook the dinner with this thing you sold me". :p

          Article directories are not supposed to be traffic sources. They were never supposed to be traffic sources. That's all a huge misunderstanding: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

          Guess what? If you use something for a totally different purpose from what it was designed to serve, for a purpose it isn't able to serve, and for a purpose completely different from the one for which all the people who are successfully making a living from the activity are using it, then it probably isn't going to work for you.

          But to go into an internet marketing forum and calmly announce, on that basis, that "it's dead" and that it's a "HUGE waste of time" is obviously going to attract some attention and comment from the people there (and there are a lot of us, in this case, understandably enough!) who do actually know why it exists, what its intended purpose is, and how to use it.

          It's a huge waste of time trying to cook the dinner with a car radio, as well - but that really isn't much of a criticism of car radios, you know? And however you look at it, it clearly doesn't signify that they're either "dead" or a "HUGE waste of time".

          It's only common sense to point that out, when someone mistakenly alleges that they are.

          That's all.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kurt
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            I read it. It says "EZA is dead". This is completely wrong.

            I read the OP, too. It says that EZA is a "HUGE waste of time". This is also completely wrong.

            Here's my point: that's very like the guy who goes into a shop and buys a car radio, takes it home and brings it back the next day saying "I want a refund: we simply couldn't cook the dinner with this thing you sold me". :p

            Article directories are not supposed to be traffic sources. They were never supposed to be traffic sources. That's all a huge misunderstanding: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

            Guess what? If you use something for a totally different purpose from what it was designed to serve, for a purpose it isn't able to serve, and for a purpose completely different from the one for which all the people who are successfully making a living from the activity are using it, then it probably isn't going to work for you.

            But to go into an internet marketing forum and calmly announce, on that basis, that "it's dead" and that it's a "HUGE waste of time" is obviously going to attract some attention and comment from the people there (and there are a lot of us, in this case, understandably enough!) who do actually know why it exists, what its intended purpose is, and how to use it.

            It's a huge waste of time trying to cook the dinner with a car radio, as well - but that really isn't much of a criticism of car radios, you know? And however you look at it, it clearly doesn't signify that they're either "dead" or a "HUGE waste of time".

            It's only common sense to point that out, when someone mistakenly alleges that they are.

            That's all.
            And Kleenex was invented as a means to remove makeup. It wasn't successful until people started using it to blow their noses that Kleenex became profitable.

            My point isn't that EZA doesn't work. It's that Alexa's argument about what something was originally intended to do is the only purpose to use something, is flawed and analogies aren't often very good proof. Anyone that's slightly creative can make up an analogy to "prove" their point.

            Plus, when EZA was at its height of getting traffic, they themselves were pushing EZA as a way to get traffic directly, and were accepting articles of questionable quality.

            If someone is making money with EZA, fine. But let's not pretend that we can only use things for their original purpose, which BTW is why men love duct tape and bungie cords.
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              But let's not pretend that we can only use things for their original purpose
              I didn't see anyone suggest that.

              I certainly didn't suggest it.

              I said "Let's not assess its usefulness by something for which it was never designed, something it has never adequately fulfilled, something it has never even claimed or pretended to fulfil, something that has no underlying logic at all, and then because we find it isn't fit for that "new attempted purpose" start off a thread by proclaiming it (both in the title and in the OP) "dead" and "a HUGE time-waste". Sorry, but that's just plain mistaken.

              I'm still saying that, now. And so are a large number of other people in other threads, who, like me, are making a living as article marketers.

              So there's no need to confuse the issue by suggesting that anyone's pretending we can "use things only for their original purpose", because that - like many of the comments above - is also completely wrong - nobody's actually doing that at all.

              Handcuffs or no handcuffs.
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              • Profile picture of the author fin
                Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


                Handcuffs or no handcuffs.
                What color do you use
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                • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                  Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                  My point isn't that EZA doesn't work. It's that Alexa's argument about what something was originally intended to do is the only purpose to use something, is flawed
                  Correction: it "would have been" flawed, if I'd actually said that, or anything even resembling it.

                  But I didn't.

                  And neither did anyone else. You introduced this line of argument and then called it "Alexa's argument", so that you could proclaim it "flawed", all on your own.

                  Originally Posted by fin View Post

                  What color do you use
                  With apologies, I decline to comment on the grounds that whatever color I mention, someone will start adducing reasons why some other color, which I never mentioned at all, isn't a wise/fashionable choice.
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                  • Profile picture of the author cbader
                    Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                    Correction: it "would have been" flawed, if I'd actually said that, or anything even resembling it.

                    But I didn't.

                    And neither did anyone else. You introduced this line of argument and then called it "Alexa's argument", so that you could proclaim it "flawed", all on your own.



                    With apologies, I decline to comment on the grounds that whatever color I mention, someone will start adducing reasons why some other color, which I never mentioned at all, isn't a wise/fashionable choice.
                    Hi Alexa, I just read a bunch of your posts on article marketing (from yor links). Thank you for clearing a lot this stuff up.

                    Folks all she is saying is the end goal isn't to get your article into a article directory, it's to get it syndicated. If you go in expecting to get traffic directly from the article directory itself then you will be disaapointed. If it's worked in the past great, if it doesn't work now it's more than likely that your articles suck and aren't getting picked up for syndication.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
                  Originally Posted by fin View Post

                  What color do you use
                  The pink furry ones would be nice
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            • Profile picture of the author ymest
              Best response I have read in a LOONNNG TIME, Kurt! Bravo!
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  • Profile picture of the author HansDavid
    From my experience, EZA is not a good source of traffic for MMO/IM niche because there are so many competition in there and the article topics have become too repetitive.

    On the other hand, my articles in EZA in other niches have been generating steady traffic and clicks.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    Here is what I use for traffic.

    Good ol' Google (requires SEO)
    Facebook
    Twitter
    Niche specific forums
    Blog traffic exchanges (widget based)
    Paid advertising
    PTC Advertising (like neobux)
    Guest Blogging

    Getting traffic is the easy part. Finding targeted traffic can be a smidge more difficult.

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  • Profile picture of the author vCr8
    It was fun reading this thread, I love how the reputable warriors clashes with their views... I understand all the views stated, it is just that come to think of it.. if we stick to what these platforms are "meant" to serve and not be allowed "in some ways" to take advantage of it to be used in IM.. well I guess youtube should not be used for IM as well because it was meant to be a video sharing site for the community as is... no intentions to drive traffic into your site.. (just saying...)

    On the other hand, I must agree that EZ is not dead, but I guess most of us can come to an agreement that, in terms of bringing traffic into your site, well yes it is not "as effective".

    BTW Thank you Kim for providing a list of sites that might help us pick up the traffic that we previously were gaining through EZ.
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  • Profile picture of the author wlasikiewicz
    Ezinearticles.com is no good these days, they get more people stealing articles than people post.
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    • Profile picture of the author Diesell
      Ezinearticles.com is no good these days, they get more people stealing articles than people post.

      OK..that was funny, but true ;-))
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Woolard
    The difference here is Alexa is likely creating long brilliant articles that are often picked up via syndication which is the best possible outcome.

    Bad articles that have no chance of syndication would do better with more direct traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author freeadstime
    We have had good traffic from goarticles.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by freeadstime View Post

      We have had good traffic from goarticles.
      actually I would like to expand on this.

      Many article marketers do not choose to use GO articles, and that is why we are having much more success with them, especailly for articles that are SEO'ed properly.

      However, if you are still in the kettle of fish article marketers that keep posting to directories you sir / madam are still being what is known as a article directory spammer. It will get results, but the best way we do it is article marketing, as alexa touched on above....

      To be a good article marketer : you need to have a high quality article and put it in directories, blogs, forums, communities, ezines, newsletters, etc etc, and this is when the right eyes see it, and you are most like to get lots of traffic, and sales, especailly if you have a nice funnel and are building a list with this traffic. We have a 6 figure a year business doing this simple process.... article syndication Rocks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jackson Tan
    i am a newbie here but i started by using EZA to get traffic to non IM niche which was pretty decent.but i do understand that that isnt what EZA was meant for. So i have no complain~

    But then again, I guess we all had our own viewpoints and different expectations and results. But I would suggest that the title was on the extreme end.

    Still, gr8 thread and thanks Kim for the new list
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  • Profile picture of the author Kragsig
    Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

    Warriors,

    As many of you probably already know, article directories like EzineArticles.com are not NEARLY as effective as they used to be. It's a HUGE time waste.

    So if you're looking for sites that ACTUALLY send traffic - here are a few of my favorites...

    BlogEngage.com
    Blokube.com
    BetterNetworker.com
    BizSugar.com
    Business2Community.com
    Biznik.com

    Feel free to add to this list if you'd like
    Thanks for the tip. I can understand Ezeine gives less than 100 visitors per article. Just wondering if your list i sorted with the BlogEngage.com as the one you prefer the most and so on...

    /Kragsig
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  • Profile picture of the author CurtisSWN
    Right, I"m getting no sales from my EZA postings!
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    While I only get a few visitors from EZA itself, one of my sites is getting around 500 visitors a month from a site that syndicated one of my articles. That is just ONE of the sites that syndicated it and all I did was post it up on EZA. About 80% of my traffic to one of my niche sites comes from articles I posted on EZA which have been syndicated.
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    • Profile picture of the author MP80
      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      While I only get a few visitors from EZA itself, one of my sites is getting around 500 visitors a month from a site that syndicated one of my articles. That is just ONE of the sites that syndicated it and all I did was post it up on EZA. About 80% of my traffic to one of my niche sites comes from articles I posted on EZA which have been syndicated.
      Thanks Amanda; appreciate hearing some solid figures, as opposed to rhetoric.
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  • Profile picture of the author BernardR
    Agreed volumes are lower from Ezine Articles however I still get plenty of traffic from this source.

    My articles have well targetted keywords and my CTRs are still above 70 - 80% on my top articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author christhurman
    Ezine turned into a dumping ground, maybe it works maybe it doesn't, but they accepted complete trash - unreadable, obviously spun, poor grammar and punctuation. I'd rather have my articles on a site that is respectable.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkBradley
    I still like using articles and posting parts of articles on blogs, facebook, and fourms then linking back to my site.
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    • Profile picture of the author capitalalchemy
      Well I used to make a lot of sales from my articles over there when they were able to get some rankings and get traffic. Heck, I would even take the time to boost them, because it wasn't that hard then!

      A person who is qualified finds your article ranking high in the search results for what they are looking for.

      If it's good enough, they will hang on to every word and click the resource box link. If you like you can even use that traffic to build up your mailing list.

      But now all the articles are capable of doing is getting syndicated, and honestly that's hit and miss.

      Most publishers will abandon the agreement and leave the link out, and you don't really know what their sites are like. Many people over that way who syndicate articles are publishing every kind of article they can think of on their site, so rather than be a tightly focused site -- it's like they are creating their own article directory. It's not as focused most of the times.

      I've never made a sale from a syndicated article personally, no matter how many times it's been picked up. Many junk sites pick them up that have no exposure.

      This site in my opinion worked better when Google favored them more. First I thought, well maybe it will be good for syndication, some multi-hundred articles later -- nope. So I thought well maybe it will be a diverse kind of back link, but that has no panned out either. I've abandoned this site.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        it just seems a bit iffy that everyone else preaches it after reading one of Alexa's threads while looking down at anything else someone does.
        This is a huge point. Too many people get so focused on one thing that they slam anyone with a different approach. Those same people also don't usually get anything like the best results they can, because they get into habits.

        And people get defensive about habits.

        For example, Alexa could have made her point by starting with, "As a source of direct traffic, yes. EZA is way down. If your content is good enough to get picked up by publishers, though, it's actually doing better now," and gone on to explain why. Her point may well be valid, but the presentation was more than a little confrontational.

        There are a lot of people who could help folks out who won't post here at all, because of precisely that kind of response.

        A few people in this forum (read: most) need to learn the difference between alternative and opposing perspectives. One leads to expanded thinking and the other to narrowed possibilities.


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  • Profile picture of the author MarkBradley
    Syndication content thru RSS and SocialAdr - Social Media Marketing Services is working for me as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author ownergolan
    Thnx, great info.
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    • Profile picture of the author luane
      Hey Kim, I, like others, just love the FREE traffic sources you are always
      dishing out to help others (including me) : ). Thanks Loads!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author a1Derek
      Firstly, thanks for the heads up on these sites.

      Secondly, what a really interesting debate on EZA and article marketing. Funnily enough I was just have a "nose" through the Google Webmaster Advise channel on YouTube and watched about 5 or 6 Matt Cutts vids.

      The last one was on article marketing. To precis he said...

      "Article sites provide poor content at best"
      "They facilitate a lot nof duplicate content across the Internet"
      "The result is a lot of identical anchor text links"
      and the kicker at the end...

      "I would veer away from article marketing"

      I accept EZA have done a lot of work post panda / penguin, and I was just about to re-engage on EZA, but I am now having second thoughts as I may as well just put the good contrent I have written on my own site!

      A common theme in ALL of the Matt Cutts videos was deliver good content it is the best SEO "technique" you can use!

      I hope this is helful.
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      • Profile picture of the author Leiif
        Well this was almost what I was looking for. Still hunting but close. I quit submitting to EZA some time ago but have an issue that I believe is directly related to that "some time ago". With googles updates EZA has lost a significant amount of traffic. So be it.

        Why does someone lose traffic? Because they are considered to be of less quality? Most likely. EZA is one of the few places I actually got links from for the site in question. I know, not its intention. It worked for a while. I even tried some tricks at EZA which worked. This was almost 2 years ago.

        The issue now is, for me and many of you hit by the zoo that used EZA, are those links behind the dreaded unnatural link penalty? I need facts if anyone has any. I suspect that EZA links are not only useless but can be the reason some can't get their sites back in Google's favor. Some are hanging on to those links in the belief they are still O.K..

        Did anyone remove their links/articles and then actually get reconsidered? Has anyone hung on to the links and reclimbed the SERPs? These are the questions that need answering.

        If the links do hurt then I wouldn't syndicate too often to MFA or link scheme sites or you might shoot yourself in the foot.

        Let's get this ramped up again.

        Best,
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    I'm sure Kim knows exactly how article directories work.

    To anyone getting all butt hurt over EZA being dead:

    1-You gotta understand that whatever is dead for me
    Isn't necessary dead for you and vice versa.


    2- If I say something is dead that does not mean I don't
    Understand how it really works.

    3- Saying something is dead is not a fact, unless I claim/prove it is.
    So you can't say Im wrong to simply say its been dead for me.

    4- At the end of the day everyone entitled to their own opinion.

    5- I can go on and on and on but I have got work to do
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  • Profile picture of the author yourreviewer
    Kim,

    It seems most of the resources you mentioned are geared more towards the IM community. Do you have a similar list for non IM niches?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Yawn, another, "EZA is dead," thread. I have lost count of the number of times people have made such a bold claim over the years I have been a member here, and yet EZA is still alive after 10+ years of operation.

    As far as using it for direct traffic, to each their own I guess...personally I would rather focus on building more long term sustainable traffic channels through syndication.

    As far as I am concerned, if all your doing all day is worrying about Google and trying to figure out a new system to try and game their algo, you don't have a business.

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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    There's nothing more exhilirating than going to an 'article directory' and surfing through reading all the posts by internet marketers. It's a great way to spend a sunny day
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  • Profile picture of the author micromike
    think while the fur is floating down, I'll point out that EZA themselves says they are a direct traffic site...and will bounce your article for a link in the resource box that DOESN'T point to a site directly related to the topic you wrote about.
    It DOES work, and if your article gets picked up in its entirety (instead of just copy-n-paste onto someone's website) then it can help you. But the folks who are just starting out (I include myself in that) are going to have a far harder time building traffic from EZA.
    And BTW, good point on the "don't put your content on an article directory first" - a lot of folks still think that's required there, and its not.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      In addition to EZA, I frequently use the Directory of Ezines and Writers' Market for article syndication. Arguably, that's not something for which they were originally intended, but both work great for finding niche publishers!

      [Quickly exits before arguments flare up once more]
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      • Profile picture of the author Patrick Wang
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        In addition to EZA, I frequently use the Directory of Ezines and Writers' Market for article syndication. Arguably, that's not something for which they were originally intended, but both work great for finding niche publishers!

        [Quickly exits before arguments flare up once more]

        Thanks for the tips, MYOB...
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Wang
    thx for the useful information, Kim

    I infact looking for writting to edit my article, just wonder can you recommend me some aregood writter?

    Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Roach
    Hey Warriors

    This has been a fun discussion and I thought I'd make one last stop here.

    The main point of this thread is NOT that EzineArticles.com is dead. Funny how people like to argue about that until their blue in the face Lol

    The point here is that there are hundreds of things you could be doing that are MORE effective and MORE profitable than posting to EzineArticles.com. And when you're running a six-figure business you'll find that TIME is hands-down your most important asset.

    One of the biggest keys to succeeding online is to stay laser-focused on the high-leverage activities in your business. Here are some of the highest leverage activities in my own business.

    1. Approaching other ezine publishers, membership site owners, and bloggers directly and offering them some exclusive content. I've personally done this for ChrisFarrellMembership.com - which has sent us thousands of visitors. I've guest post for SmartPassiveIncome.com - which sent us a little over 1,600 visitors. Among others. You're going to get exponentially more results by approaching publishers directly.

    2. Sending value-driven, entertaining emails to your list of subscribers. As many of you probably already know, your list is a perpetual traffic machine. If you're not building a list of subscribers and engaging with them every week - then you're not building a sustainable business.

    3. Webinars. Approach other marketers and offer to do a completely content-driven webinar for their subscribers in exchange for adding the people who register to your own subscriber list. You can do this for free using a really cool tool at OneClickTool.com. Which integrates Aweber and GoToWebinar.

    4. Forum Marketing. To this day forum marketing is STILL one of the fastest ways to get traffic to your website. My dad started a blog about Tennessee Walking Horses 6 months ago and he's using forums and Facebook for ALL of his traffic and last month he generated 10,000+ visitors (the majority of that coming from forums). Forums are one of the best places to build great relationships and tap into a highly targeted audience.

    5. Solo Ads. Tried and tested. Obviously these have been very popular this year. But one of the best things you can do is to approach people who aren't openly offering solo ads. Create custom advertising deals with mom and pop websites. This works especially well outside the IM market.

    6. Create an affiliate program. This is one of the best things you could ever do for your business. For our Traffic Dashboard product last year we opened up a 100% commission affiliate program and it's added 20,000+ subscribers to our list to date.

    7. Testing and Optimizing the front-end of your sales funnel. The front-end of your sales funnel is the squeeze page. Followed by your offer and possibly some upsells. You get the biggest impact and leverage in your business by optimizing the conversions of your squeeze page. Because the more people you have subscribing, the more people who see your offer, see your upsells, receive your follow-up emails, etc... The effects ripple through the entire sales funnel.

    Hope you got some value there

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    • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
      Kim is known as one of the most experienced IMers in traffic issues.
      She refers to EzineArticles only from that point of view. It's a waste of time to continue the thread under the terms stated in the discussion, which turned away from the main subject.
      I fully agree with Kim: presently EZA is useless to get traffic.
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      • Profile picture of the author Manie Amari
        Originally Posted by RobertoM View Post

        Kim is known as one of the most experienced IMers in traffic issues. .
        I think most of us know who she is brv and that's not what's at debate here..

        Originally Posted by RobertoM View Post

        It's a waste of time to continue the thread under the terms stated in the discussion, which turned away from the main subject
        No it's not. I think this is probably the most valuable thread here today. Maybe you should absorb the info before posting.


        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Her point may well be valid, but the presentation was more than a little confrontational.
        Sorry Paul I gotta disagree here. I think Alexa's response and approach at outlining her issue with the subject title of the OP's was perfectly stated.

        Originally Posted by Wade32 View Post

        This would have been a great post if Alexa hadn't came in and ruined it...
        Ruined what? This is an open forum where anyone can post their opinions and bring their points across regarding any subject matter. If you don't like it then I suggest you find something else better to do.

        Originally Posted by Wade32 View Post

        What do you care if someone thinks that Ezine articles is dead? Who cares???
        People that make a living using this model to build the business.

        Originally Posted by Wade32 View Post

        The topic, even though it was mentioned, is NOT about Ezine articles being dead
        Were in the forums rule's does it say you can't dicuss anything else related to an OP's post?


        Originally Posted by Ian Varnava View Post

        And I was just going to get some popcorn...
        Second that!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ian Varnava
      Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post


      This has been a fun discussion and I thought I'd make one last stop here.
      And I was just going to get some popcorn...

      Maybe next time.
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  • Profile picture of the author ashloren
    Okay, here's a question: if the intended purpose of EZA is to place content in front of publishers who may want to syndicate it...then why not just require those publishers to login to the site in order to view the articles submitted to the directory?

    I mean, if getting direct traffic from EZA is so wrong then why do they even make them public, when it would be easy to avoid this supposed misuse by all these supposed people who are so sadly misinformed?

    And I agree with the person in this thread who suggested that Alexa re-read the title...

    The OP is accusing EZA specifically when she says they do not drive much traffic to her sites. She didn't make any statements about whether or not that was a positive or negative thing in the context of article marketing. She is simply saying they suck as a method of driving traffic.

    And yeah, guest blogging does accomplish the same thing as syndicated content that's picked up by publishers who use content on EZA. In fact, I would argue that it's even more effective than article marketing.

    And if she's trying to get traffic, she's correct to say that EZA is a waste of time if it's not getting her any traffic. That probably means her stuff isn't being picked up from there and syndicated, and we've established that EZA itself sucks for that, even if they meant to suck at it.

    Last time I politely spoke out against something Alexa said, Paul immediately deleted my post...so I'll be taking screenshots of anything I write which challenges her, so I can at least see what was said later on.
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by ashloren View Post

      I mean, if getting direct traffic from EZA is so wrong then why do they even make them public, when it would be easy to avoid this supposed misuse by all these supposed people who are so sadly misinformed?
      I'll do you one better....if getting direct traffic from EZA is wrong, why hasn't anyone told EZA(or any other article directory on the planet for that matter), because they clearly haven't gotten that memo, lol?
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    thx man.. are you sure that ezine articles is dead??
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    Funny all of them are starting with 'B'
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  • Profile picture of the author DaveWarrior
    Your pagerank is good enough you should just publish blog posts. It's not hard to be on page 1 instantly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Kelly
    Hi Kim,

    Thanks for the tips.

    I still marvel at your style. You certainly have a great way of encouraging and maintaining a connection with your 'loyal' subscribers. Obviously, on WF, were not technically your subscribers. Yet with every post you write, I am drawn to what you have to say!

    Also, this post has certainly opened up a healthy debate. Once again I thank goodness we have a 'democratic WF' - the different perspectives, viewpoints and EVEN the debates certainly encourage growth in an ever changing internet landscape!

    Thank you.

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    • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
      Hey Kim,

      Great post. Honestly, I have never heard of most of those site. The great thing I love about you is how "obsessed" you are about testing and tracking. I am always confident your opinions do not come from theory or what you think may work. You know it works for you, because of the tracking you do.

      I have not used Ezine articles in a very long time, so I really can not add much, because I have also not used the site you mentioned.

      However, I look forward to tracking the results I get with them.

      Talk soon,

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  • Profile picture of the author davidfrankk
    For articles, there is Zimbio.com and Ideamarketers.com
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  • Profile picture of the author BernardR
    Wow ... you guys loool.

    I think that even if the intention was not too diss EzineArticles usefulness the words 'because EzineArticles.com is dead' does kind of imply that.

    Me and Alexa use Ezine Articles in totally different ways ... Alexa uses the site properly and I use it rather crudely just for clicks.

    Either way I have too concur with Alexa and say I continue to get stunning results (my best article has a CTR of over 80% and I average around 50%)

    However if you are saying the other sites can better that then I am all ears.

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  • Profile picture of the author JMSD
    Kim thank you for your contributions. I love your emails, your wit and your energy and if anyone knows anything about traffic-getting (no matter what the source) it's you and thanks to you, I've got my traffic-getting act together!

    I think Paul has put things in perfect perspective so I won't add to the heat other than to say that it matters not a jot what the article directories were 'intended' for.

    What matters is how each marketer chooses to use any source for whatever purpose, provided that use is not in violation of other people's intellectual property or the directories' TOS.

    As for the headline - would any of us have come on this thread had the headline not been intriguing enough?

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  • Profile picture of the author Jackson Tan
    The thread is plain awesome.. I learned alot. Thanks Kim for the insights
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  • Profile picture of the author plongmire
    linkedin has been working well for me...but I will add the sites above...another one that I am just now starting to test with tracking is Internet Marketing Blog | Social Media Marketing | Internet Marketing News

    Love these sites because they are quick and targeted traffic coming back to your site...

    I'll add some stats in a month or so to let everyone know how well they worked for me...
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  • Profile picture of the author bkat52
    An example of a well marketed forum post is what I see here. I enjoyed Kim's use of the "outrage + controversy = massive traffic" formula I learned of from the Social Triggers blog. Lots of interaction and tempers on the rise. And people chiming in to defend a fellow warrior. Nicely done.

    Intentional? Maybe. Maybe not.

    Always learning here.

    Always learning here.
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  • Profile picture of the author NetUsher
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    This has been my experience as well, I have seen a huge decline in traffic from article directories and for me, their just not worth the bother for the amount of traffic I get from them for the amount of effort involved. The bottom line is I am going to use venues that give me the best bang for my buck weather that is in dollars or in my time.


    Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

    Warriors,

    As many of you probably already know, article directories like EzineArticles.com are not NEARLY as effective as they used to be. It's a HUGE time waste.

    So if you're looking for sites that ACTUALLY send traffic - here are a few of my favorites...

    BlogEngage.com
    Blokube.com
    BetterNetworker.com
    BizSugar.com
    Business2Community.com
    Biznik.com

    Feel free to add to this list if you'd like
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  • Profile picture of the author aroth
    Wow this is a awesome thread, I've been considering guest blogging. These sites give me a good head start.
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  • Profile picture of the author FriendlyRob
    I think I agree with everyone. My only concern is when someone states that a particular website is "dead". With all due respect, many people are still using ezinearticles and getting wonderful results. I am one of them.

    True, it is not as effective as it once was for direct traffic (at least not for IM articles) but there are many other benefits. And I appreciate the list of sites that the O.P. believes will work. I will try those as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    this is all very confusing, I'll just continue to pay for my traffic and master testing and conversions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wade32
    This would have been a great post if Alexa hadn't came in and ruined it...Jesus, do you have to knitpick every little detail? In my opinion, the Warrior Forum is dead because of crap like this.

    You can't even have a decent conversation without someone directing the topic into a cockfight..

    No worries Alexa, ...*taken out, I'm better than that... you don't have to plop them out every time someone creates a post that actually provides information, and another result, besides something you swear by..

    What do you care if someone thinks that Ezine articles is dead? Who cares??? The topic, even though it was mentioned, is NOT about Ezine articles being dead, but to give another option besides Ezine articles for traffic.

    Thanks again for ruining the thread...
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    • Profile picture of the author zerofill
      Kim has a point and Alexa has a point...

      But Alexa's just wasn't suited for this thread. The reason was that the title actually did clearly state: EZA is dead for sending traffic. Which, it actually is dead for that.

      I was one of the biggest abusers of EZA... heck I ain't gonna lie about it.

      I'm not exactly a green peace kinda guy... I beat that article directly to hell!

      People will say... "You're part of the problem on why it doesn't work anymore for direct traffic..."

      You know what?

      I would agree... to an extent...

      But, I rode the train that I knew would get derailed, with me on it or not. I chose to ride until it was derailed... I rode that baby hard and put her away wet.

      But the problems were more, EZA's fault then marketers. They reviewed articles, they accepted questionable garbage. They wanted the traffic, so their ads were clicked. Those fat Adsense checks, plus the subscription fee is what made EZA go the way it did in my opinion.

      They knew the old heatmap on their site...

      They knew where the viewers eyes wondered.

      They wanted 30%+ of your clicks. Because it made them more bank then your $97.

      A lot more...

      Which is why the most valuable real estate on the site, was covered with ads eventually.

      Now they are trying to baptize it, and wash away it's sins. Because I can definitely imagine the bottom line on overall financials is about 70% lighter now.

      ...again my opinion.

      I know... I know... Opinions are like __________. We all have one...

      But then again I ever claimed to not be one. My wife tells me I am one daily. So I take it as fact. After all my wife wouldn't lie to me, at least I don't think she would.

      Don't get me wrong... I'm not knocking EZA for what they did to get big bucks. They knew Google was ranking articles every 2 seconds. I would have probably done the same thing if I owned them. I would have probably tried to stay a little more under the radar, but I would have still tried to get that money flowing in. Then stockpiling the cash for the inevitable slap in the face.

      So while EZA may have been built for syndication. Their actions proved that they were trying to capitalize on the rankings. They tried to expand that traffic more then worry about articles being syndicated. Now they are trying to go back to basics and be reborn. Which may be too little too late.

      And also... Kim, thanks for the list.
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  • Profile picture of the author gomzydecor
    Well yes Ezine Articles are not as effective as it used to be. But still it provides Links and for me it matters and nothing else. And yes if you are striving for traffic then please use YAhoo answers on a regular basis. It'll help for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenh512
    Just my 2 cents, I don't really want to get into the argument of who's right because I have a lot of respect for Kim and Alexa, they've both given all of us plenty of valuable information (here and in other threads). Instead of arguing or taking sides we should all look at what they're really saying, take the good information and use it.

    Is EZA dead? Of course not, I think most of us know that, but the side-effect of getting direct traffic from that article directory is (in most cases) dead. I think the whole "EZA is dead" thing is more a symptom of the kind of copywriting we've all been exposed to for so many years.. and let's face it, it works, you saw the subject and clicked didn't you?

    Alexa has gone to great lengths on this forum to help all of us learn how to use article directories (and especially EZA) for what they were intended for, passive syndication of our articles. That's where the real traffic and backlinks from article directories come from these days, you can't and shouldn't just spam articles to the directories and SEO them to page 1 like some of us did 5 or 10 years ago. She's also said, at least here in this thread, that active syndication is also important. I think that's the point of this post, all sensationalism aside, Kim gives us some pretty good resources to actively syndicate our articles.

    Now, put those together. Use EZA for passive syndication and use Kim's resources for active syndication, in the long run you should benefit from both.
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  • Profile picture of the author petemcal
    I think they're still a good place to get a trusted domain backlnk, where you can build up secondary / tertiary links behind it to achieve pagerank a little easier.

    Then you can turn that unindexed link into a more powerful one with both domain/page authority.

    IMO this is a better combo than having a well linked to backlink on a PR0 root domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author mohsinmallik
    Thanks for sharing those sites. But one thing I am in dispute with you and that is you said article directories like ezinearticles.com are not worth now. They are not sending traffic and they are just time waste. This is a huge misconception which many internet marketers having in recent days. Still ezinearticles and other high quality article directories are having a great value and they are still sending visitors in websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Wolfe
    thanks for the suggestions
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  • Profile picture of the author adamvanwildest
    *with all due respect* can we change the title of this thread to (Ezine Debate)

    In the meantime, can someone recommend some sites that actually send traffic besides ezine, squidoo and infobarrel?
    or a thread that does?

    cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    I don't even really get the point of disagreement or alternative viewpoint. Kim's title says for sites that send traffic. In syndication its not ezinearticles thats sending the traffic that is the thing. So they are not even disagreeing.

    Still as someone who has content needs God bless the webmasters that still look there for it. Maybe its improved but if I see an ezinearticle in a Google search come up at the top I click the link underneath it to find something valuable.

    NO not saying that good articles are not there but they earned their rep for low quality articles and rep hangs in the air for awhile on the net.

    Just happy to see a rare post from Kim (that I caught anyway), Never read anything of hers without some good tips.
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    • Profile picture of the author marco005
      Hi,

      notice;
      These sites for traffic

      BlogEngage.com
      Blokube.com
      BetterNetworker.com
      BizSugar.com
      Business2Community.com
      Biznik.com

      to write quest posts or blog comments to get traffic from them??


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    nice list thanks for the info
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    Thanks Kim Roach!
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  • Profile picture of the author Defacto
    I know this thread is about article directories but you can take any article that is ranking on Google and beat it with Youtube. Just use the material to make a quick video using Proshow or Animoto (I prefer Proshow), get a voiceover at Fiverr and then get some backlinks, views and comments at fiverr.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    The lesson everyone can take from this thread: make sure you word things correctly. If it can be interpreted in a way outside of what you intended, it will be.

    Reminds me of a joke (although I can't remember where I saw it) where everyone was discussing what an author meant by describing a clear blue ocean in a book. The author comes into the conversation and says "I was telling you that the ocean was f***ing blue!"
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by MikeWike View Post

      Those sites seem OK, but most of them require some $$$ before you can started.
      Well, moving up in business usually requires some capital. I know we all like to say you can start with $0 (and that's certainly true in most cases), but the idea doesn't hold up further down the line.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    excellent discussion i love a little hot debate. If you're one purpose is to generate traffic, then Ezine articles isn't as good as it was but that doesn't mean it's no good at all. Thanks for sharing your excellent list of alternative sites, brilliant.
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  • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
    Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

    Warriors,

    As many of you probably already know, article directories like EzineArticles.com are not NEARLY as effective as they used to be. It's a HUGE time waste.

    So if you're looking for sites that ACTUALLY send traffic - here are a few of my favorites...

    BlogEngage.com
    Blokube.com
    BetterNetworker.com
    BizSugar.com
    Business2Community.com
    Biznik.com

    Feel free to add to this list if you'd like
    I have left a comment on B2C that keeps getting me traffic, but I don't think getting traffic was the whole point of ezines anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    Using EZA (and mot other article directories) to help get your posted content ranked highly in the SERPS and generate traffic direct "through" EZA is what has taken the BIG hit.

    I used to pull in 10,000's of targeted visitors from just one ezine article that was ranked very well for years...and that dropped to less than half.

    It hapened that this article was also syndicated well - I would imagine that the fact it ranked well in the SERP's also helped give visibility to others who then syndicated, so the two are linked a much as the "experts" in article syndication would like to argue otherwise.

    I've always had more luck forming direct relationships with publishers when getting content syndicated - in my experience they rarely look at directories like EZA anyway.

    Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author thinkoutthebox
    Thanks Kim going to run an alexa on this sites and then put 5 high quality posts on these sites tonight and report the traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author denysapu
    Hey Kim,

    Thanks for the list!
    Honestly, I have never visited the site before

    (Will check it soon)
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
    No doubt EZA back in the day was good for direct traffic and getting anchor text backlinks to your sites and they actively encouraged you to use relevant keywords to rank well and get direct traffic.

    In the past even if you didn't get direct traffic you could get SEO benefits from the backlinks for years without doing anything else such was the authority of EZA.

    Great to hear that people are having success with syndication but that's bad news for us lazy guys as it then becomes more like a job as you need to keep submitting articles to get more traffic and more people picking up your articles and publishing them.

    I don't use EZA at the moment but I might test some stuff soon but if I used them on a regular basis I would want to know how many visitors come to my site per article and track this.
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  • Profile picture of the author speedbird
    That list is definitely great Kim, will add them on my never ending list.
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  • Profile picture of the author headmaster211
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    Ezinearticles Most Viewed Section (once used to be) was my favourite. Not into Article marketing anymore. But YOUTUBE is where I get my most of the traffic from.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zend
    Well, if you want traffic of random people, ezine is not for you. Its an obvious concept, article directories such as ezine only give you targeted traffic, which actually demand you product. Yes, ezine has been decrease its efficiency lately, but it is not enough reason to not put your article in there.
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    How many visitors per month do you get by using the list below?


    Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

    Warriors,

    As many of you probably already know, article directories like EzineArticles.com are not NEARLY as effective as they used to be. It's a HUGE time waste.

    So if you're looking for sites that ACTUALLY send traffic - here are a few of my favorites...

    BlogEngage.com
    Blokube.com
    BetterNetworker.com
    BizSugar.com
    Business2Community.com
    Biznik.com

    Feel free to add to this list if you'd like
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  • Profile picture of the author gilbert90
    Thanks for the share kim, I will surely check some that i am not yet using
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  • Profile picture of the author JakeAng
    I don't find it to be dead either to be honest, as long as the article is syndicated and I get the links, I'm happy. Getting traffic from articles is a rare bonus and not worth much in my opinion.

    I want traffic send to a website owned by me, not to an article that will give the majority of the traffic a solution without them stepping foot in my website.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

    Warriors,

    As many of you probably already know, article directories like EzineArticles.com are not NEARLY as effective as they used to be. It's a HUGE time waste.

    So if you're looking for sites that ACTUALLY send traffic - here are a few of my favorites...

    BlogEngage.com
    Blokube.com
    BetterNetworker.com
    BizSugar.com
    Business2Community.com
    Biznik.com

    Feel free to add to this list if you'd like
    Kim, thanks for publishing that list but aren't those sites mainly geared to the IM niche? Nothing wrong with that, but what if you want to promote something in a niche that has nothing to do with business or marketing?
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    I would like to catch the people in charge of google in a dark alley one day.
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  • Profile picture of the author atshy21saraf
    Originally Posted by Kim Roach View Post

    Warriors,

    As many of you probably already know, article directories like EzineArticles.com are not NEARLY as effective as they used to be. It's a HUGE time waste.

    So if you're looking for sites that ACTUALLY send traffic - here are a few of my favorites...

    BlogEngage.com
    Blokube.com
    BetterNetworker.com
    BizSugar.com
    Business2Community.com
    Biznik.com

    Feel free to add to this list if you'd like
    Thanks for the usefull info.
    I have tried many way out for getting traffic, this might be one of the few good of them.
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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      Shame so much of this thread's been bogged down with EZA bickering.

      I've tried guest blogging, but it seems pretty difficult to find decent blogs to post on.... some even ask you for payment.

      I find video marketing works quite well for bringing traffic to my sites.

      I'm surprised this has only been mentioned a couple of times.

      I never really got the whole article syndication thing to work for me, I found the whole process quite time consuming... then again, I'm more comfortable working with videos... so, I guess work to your strengths.
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  • Profile picture of the author seotothecore
    If your going to try to syndicate content, then I agree that guest posting and promoting the content BEFORE its initially published is the best method forward as you will actually be able to get your content before people that will actually appreciate it right off
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  • Profile picture of the author Viremia
    Hey Kim, thanks for the tip. I am an Ezinearticle writer and I know that the site isn't as popular as it used to be. Hope to find some revenue through your suggestions. Thanks again mate!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Cavan
    Thanks for the links. I will check them out!
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  • Profile picture of the author tmtechno
    Ezinearticles is good for generating traffic that can be converted to paying customers and also good for syndicating your articles - getting backlinks etc.

    I myself have found several great sites from author links and have even purchased products from some of the sites.

    IMO, mileage varies depending on the industry and demographic.
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  • Profile picture of the author CFK
    Good info , I have preferred Go Articles over Ezine for the past year, been getting good traffic results
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  • Profile picture of the author andlosek
    Ok I understand that Ezine are sending low traffic but what about sites like hubpages, squidoo, goarticles. What can be the reason of low traffic coming from Ezine as I know they are the best.
    I am more curious to know.
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    MEOW. Cat fight!

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  • Profile picture of the author VivekThakur
    Agree with you EzineArticles.com really a huge waste of time. I didn't get a single approval from ezine, every time site makes a excuse. thanks for suggestion.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by VivekThakur View Post

      Agree with you EzineArticles.com really a huge waste of time. I didn't get a single approval from ezine, every time site makes a excuse. thanks for suggestion.
      I think that's not quite what the OP was saying, but more that even if you are approved and your articles are getting published, that you won't get the easy traffic that you used to get a few years ago.

      If you can't get approved that's probably because you're not following their guidelines in some way - which is probably a good thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ealham559
    Well yes Publication Material are not as effective as it used to be. But still it provides Backlinks and for me it problems and nothing else. And yes if you are trying for guests then please use YAhoo alternatives consistently. It'll help for sure.
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