Avoid GURU Hypnotism ... Then DO THIS & Make $$$$

I don't believe that is entirely true. People who only give half or less of an effort then head straight back to their inbox are to blame for their own failure. They advertising is to blame once they have opened it. I believe it is a desire to not have to work that keeps people trapped in failure in this business. They don't want to do the work.

Agreed Jay

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The guru's i've come across do give it all. I think it's when people stray away from the basics that their success is limited. Things like writing blogs, articles, newsletters, forum signatures, etc are thing's that people just don't do. Look at the original posting on this thread the poster has List Building somewhere near the bottom, a good list could well mean 1k to 10k for that day.

With what I know I could probably have most with as little as 100 to 200 bucks making at least 5k a month, but only 5% are going to put in the time and the work.

The other interesting thing if I put that information out there on the cheap, most would ignore it, if I charge then still only that small 5% or going to actually put in the work. The gurus add value by giving you the basics and their personal spin as to what they have done and tested.

This. The gurus would rather avoid having you as competition and would rather have you as an affilaite making them money day in and day out.

This is because YOU CAN'T DO THOSE THINGS.

If you are looking for a $7 ebook, what are you going to say when that ebook says to spend $1,500 on advertising?

If you are tired of not making money right now, what are you going to say when it says to spend 40 days making your product and 90 more waiting to get paid?

You want solid, reliable systems that work? I can point you at two great forums that cost $40 to $50 a month. And if you don't have that kind of money, you're not ready for those systems anyway.

You want those systems for free? Here you go. You won't use them, because - and this is one of the great mysteries of life - you didn't pay for them. It's free, it must not be worth anything, AMIRITE? But here you go anyway.

System 1: Build a series of low-price infoproducts and sell them as WSOs.

System 2: Build a series of low-volume passive income systems that require little or no work to maintain.

Not rocket surgery, people. System 1 used to be my entire income. System 2 is as we speak paying my bills every month while I work on that "40 days to build and 90 days to get paid" process. Which takes more than that 130 days, because what to build is another process entirely before that. And then I'll probably use system 1 again to pull in the $1,500 for advertising.

Right now, I have a copy of Frank Kern's Mass Control 2 in a box in the other room. It is worthless to me. I'm not at the level I need to reach before I can use it. And when I reach that level, guess what? The $2,000 Frank charges for it will no longer be a lot of money.

That's one of the things price tags are for. If it's a lot of money to you, chances are pretty good that you can't make use of it anyway. Go find something in your price range. And when you find your $7 or $10 product, don't expect to "make the BIG money" with it.

Ray Kroc did not open his first McDonald's and sell billions and billions of hamburgers on day one, and the internet is not magic.

Not really going to name names as that is inappropriate.

Plus I am pretty sure you have seen these hyped products that promise quick rich systems aimed at desperate newbies

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the funniest one I heard over the past two months is
It Only Takes 5 Minutes a Week

Rule #1 Study what they do, not what they say!!!

Sign up for their lists, play prospect. See how they are selling. If you are on more than one list, you'll also see how they structure their affiliate sales pitches and who's selling for them. If you can, sign up for their affiliate partnerships too.

David

Those are the basics, but when you are talking about beginners, they need to know those basics. Also, the guru's I have come across walk through everything step by step, showing beginners how it's done. They also add extra value by mentioning tools newbies can use to get things done faster.

The other thing you need to keep in mind is that technology changes almost daily, so if you are stuck on the basics like the guy with the horse and buggy whips eventually you won't be able to keep up with the changes coming down the pike. So, it's a good thing to find out what the other guy is doing or what they have come up with at least once a month.

In the beginning you don't know what you don't know. The learning curve can be steep for newbies. Some learning can't be skipped. You're going to have to bump your head until you figure some things out. That is why it is called evergreen.

There will always be new people going in the funnel for the "gurus" to market to. The question is perhaps how fast you can move out that funnel and create your own funnels. The rules don't change only the players. Every day a person picks up a golf club and wants to be a good player. And there is a industry made just for them to get them there. If they ever make it "there" is another story.

Totally agree with you. hack, they don't even need a computer to make money, all they need is some haste and they can turn it into pure gold:-)

No, it's because of the scamming guys like you are doing because they think it's what the gurus do.

I know easily more than thirty people who make five figures a month, and sell WSOs for under $20 right here on this forum that lay out the exact strategies they used when they were starting out.

It was really pretty trivial for me to make $250 a day when I got here. I just took on a writing client and wrote ten articles at $25 a pop. Of course, first I had to prove I was worth $25 an article, which I did by writing for $7 an article, then $12 an article, then $15 and $20 and finally $25 - after about a month. Later I went to $50 an article. Now I don't write for clients at all.

But it's not hard to figure out that $250 a day is $1,250 a week and $65k a year; I did this my first six months and pulled in significantly over $30k. Also not hard to figure out that $50 an article would be $130k per year (but I didn't do this for any appreciable amount of time, because of reasons). And hey presto, that's five figures a month.

Missing pieces: (a) you have to be worth $50 an article which you're not, and (b) you need to have clients lined up every day of every week which you don't.

However, you're undoubtedly worth $5 an article, which is $13k a year, which is more than a lot of people here are making. (Hell, it's more than I'm making, because most of my time is taken up with thoroughly unprofitable research and practice.) You can probably do $10 an article, if you can write coherent English. That's $100 a day. $500 a week. And $26k is not exactly a terrible income.

But turning up your nose at anything short of guru-level money will leave you right where you are: making a grumpy face at the gurus and calling them names because they're "lying" to you about where they get their money.

You don't need to know where they get money. You need to know where you can get money. And no, you cannot just wave a magic wand and turn yourself into Brad Gosse or Dr. Ben Adkins. It takes years of hard work.

Knowing where the road leads is no good. You have to know where it starts.