Avoid GURU Hypnotism ... Then DO THIS & Make $$$$

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A word of sympathy and advice to you if you are so desperate to make cash that you allow yourself to be bounced around from Guru Product Launch to product launch.

Truth is there is a lot of stuff out there that simply does not work ... products that will probably NOT teach you how to make an income from the web.

Not saying all but there is a lot of stuff out there that will just leave you feeling deflated and broke.

This is because that the guys launching these products have an amazing ability to convince you, they know how to show you 'proof' and testimonials that will hook you. They will tell you how they lived on the sidewalk until on day they managed to find one little thing that made them $$$$$$$ in 48 hours.

IF YOU ARE LIABLE TO BE TAKEN IN BY THESE TYPES OF LAUNCHES THEN STOP GOING TO THE SALES PAGES TODAY ... MAKE A DECISION. Say no more BS for me!

My humble advice on how you can and will start making money.

1) Learn from the WF solid IM marketing techniques

2) Create your own information product (s)
You can do this, it is easier than you think. Just make sure you offer your customers VALUE

3) Build a simple sales page & sell your product ... unless you are offering the world make sure it is a low ticket price

4) Once you have this converting create additional offers either as upsells or back end products.

It honestly is that simple. If you stop chasing the money, stop being hypnotised by fancy launches and knuckle down and build your own business money will eventually start coming into your account.

One final tip ... in the mix of steps 1 to 4 BUILD A LIST

Happy Weekend

BERNARD
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  • Profile picture of the author Mena Jo
    True! There is no quick way to success in this game it takes work. Lots and lots of work.

    So many people get blinkered by the end results of success - the house, the cars, the free living, the whatever - but it took some pretty hard graft to get to that point.

    It really doesn't matter what fancy make money products you buy; they are not going to work unless you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikefrommaine
    You've simplified it quite well, but a lot of people don't even know how to make a website. Instructions need to be much more detailed for people to follow or they will get lost or give up.
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  • Profile picture of the author BernardR
    Mike

    If someone does not know how to make a website they need to either learn how to do it or pay someone to do it for them ... it really is that simple.

    Mena has it right ... IM will not work unless you do
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerd4
    I agree with you, too. I always keep this in my mind : "There will be no success without pain".
    It keeps me motivated in working hard for the future of my company.
    Thanks for sharing this.
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  • Profile picture of the author BernardR
    Exactly my point Tyler ... buying into the get rich quick ideas prevents people from actually doing the work and building their own business.

    We keeps the them broke
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
      Originally Posted by BernardR View Post

      Exactly my point Tyler ... buying into the get rich quick ideas prevents people from actually doing the work and building their own business.

      We keeps the them broke
      I don't believe that is entirely true. People who only give half or less of an effort then head straight back to their inbox are to blame for their own failure. They advertising is to blame once they have opened it. I believe it is a desire to not have to work that keeps people trapped in failure in this business. They don't want to do the work.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayParker
    Solid advice Bernard you may add to your post building a targeted email list of subscribers and create a relationship with them and then offer information products on the backend.
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  • Profile picture of the author acebingo2006
    agreed 100%
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Pupke
    I agree that reading those aggressive sales pitches can lead even the most level headed of us astray. I usually ignore testimonials unless its from a reputable person, because you can always find someone to say something good about anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
    There is one guy on the Clickbank Marketplace selling a course that is just all hype. The upshot of all the video's he feeds you is to just simply sell HIS product, i.e. 'Hot air' and his video's and nothing else to do with marketing on the internet whatsoever. He shows you Clickbank stats that show HE makes a fortune on the net, but what he does not say is, that the hundred or so affiliates selling his video's is making him that money, not making the money 'on the internet', so YOU the buyer are hardly likely to emulate the takings on Clickbank that he gets.
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  • Profile picture of the author ahmar2
    You are correct about the products and sales BS. But is there ANYTHING else in the Internet marketing besides these products.

    Look around mate even the warrior forum you are promoting and recommending is full of these WSO and products with flashy banners and testimonials. In my opinion internet marketing is all about products and selling them to others (using whatever methods). This is what that has been going on and it will be.

    Even when you say make your own product You have to create a flashy and tempting sales page to sell it right? So you are advising newbies to avoid the BS offers from others but make one of their own right? You are funny.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    What I have found out about most gurus out there is that they really don't teach you their true techniques on how they are able to make the BIG money online. They just give you general info on how to take their product and promote it for them.

    A lot of people do not realize this.

    Many gurus don't want you to know their secrets because if you do, then they have more competition. Their goal, at the end of the day, is to recruit as many affiliates into their funnel and have them all promote for them.

    That is why you see guys and ladies earning $5,000-$10,000 per day on places like clickbank. Do you think that these gurus are about to share with you how EXACTLY they are doing it? No way. No chance.
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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      What I have found out about most gurus out there is that they really don't teach you their true techniques on how they are able to make the BIG money online. They just give you general info on how to take their product and promote it for them.

      A lot of people do not realize this.

      Many gurus don't want you to know their secrets because if you do, then they have more competition. Their goal, at the end of the day, is to recruit as many affiliates into their funnel and have them all promote for them.

      That is why you see guys and ladies earning $5,000-$10,000 per day on places like clickbank. Do you think that these gurus are about to share with you how EXACTLY they are doing it? No way. No chance.
      yes
      The guru's i've come across do give it all. I think it's when people stray away from the basics that their success is limited. Things like writing blogs, articles, newsletters, forum signatures, etc are thing's that people just don't do. Look at the original posting on this thread the poster has List Building somewhere near the bottom, a good list could well mean 1k to 10k for that day.

      With what I know I could probably have most with as little as 100 to 200 bucks making at least 5k a month, but only 5% are going to put in the time and the work.

      The other interesting thing if I put that information out there on the cheap, most would ignore it, if I charge then still only that small 5% or going to actually put in the work. The gurus add value by giving you the basics and their personal spin as to what they have done and tested.
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    • Profile picture of the author fedor50
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      What I have found out about most gurus out there is that they really don't teach you their true techniques on how they are able to make the BIG money online. They just give you general info on how to take their product and promote it for them.

      A lot of people do not realize this.

      Many gurus don't want you to know their secrets because if you do, then they have more competition. Their goal, at the end of the day, is to recruit as many affiliates into their funnel and have them all promote for them.

      That is why you see guys and ladies earning $5,000-$10,000 per day on places like clickbank. Do you think that these gurus are about to share with you how EXACTLY they are doing it? No way. No chance.
      This. The gurus would rather avoid having you as competition and would rather have you as an affilaite making them money day in and day out.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      they really don't teach you their true techniques on how they are able to make the BIG money online.
      This is because YOU CAN'T DO THOSE THINGS.

      If you are looking for a $7 ebook, what are you going to say when that ebook says to spend $1,500 on advertising?

      If you are tired of not making money right now, what are you going to say when it says to spend 40 days making your product and 90 more waiting to get paid?

      You want solid, reliable systems that work? I can point you at two great forums that cost $40 to $50 a month. And if you don't have that kind of money, you're not ready for those systems anyway.

      You want those systems for free? Here you go. You won't use them, because - and this is one of the great mysteries of life - you didn't pay for them. It's free, it must not be worth anything, AMIRITE? But here you go anyway.

      System 1: Build a series of low-price infoproducts and sell them as WSOs.

      System 2: Build a series of low-volume passive income systems that require little or no work to maintain.

      Not rocket surgery, people. System 1 used to be my entire income. System 2 is as we speak paying my bills every month while I work on that "40 days to build and 90 days to get paid" process. Which takes more than that 130 days, because what to build is another process entirely before that. And then I'll probably use system 1 again to pull in the $1,500 for advertising.

      Right now, I have a copy of Frank Kern's Mass Control 2 in a box in the other room. It is worthless to me. I'm not at the level I need to reach before I can use it. And when I reach that level, guess what? The $2,000 Frank charges for it will no longer be a lot of money.

      That's one of the things price tags are for. If it's a lot of money to you, chances are pretty good that you can't make use of it anyway. Go find something in your price range. And when you find your $7 or $10 product, don't expect to "make the BIG money" with it.

      Ray Kroc did not open his first McDonald's and sell billions and billions of hamburgers on day one, and the internet is not magic.
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      • Profile picture of the author fedor50
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        This is because YOU CAN'T DO THOSE THINGS.

        If you are looking for a $7 ebook, what are you going to say when that ebook says to spend $1,500 on advertising?

        If you are tired of not making money right now, what are you going to say when it says to spend 40 days making your product and 90 more waiting to get paid?

        You want solid, reliable systems that work? I can point you at two great forums that cost $40 to $50 a month. And if you don't have that kind of money, you're not ready for those systems anyway.

        You want those systems for free? Here you go. You won't use them, because - and this is one of the great mysteries of life - you didn't pay for them. It's free, it must not be worth anything, AMIRITE? But here you go anyway.

        System 1: Build a series of low-price infoproducts and sell them as WSOs.

        System 2: Build a series of low-volume passive income systems that require little or no work to maintain.

        Not rocket surgery, people. System 1 used to be my entire income. System 2 is as we speak paying my bills every month while I work on that "40 days to build and 90 days to get paid" process. Which takes more than that 130 days, because what to build is another process entirely before that. And then I'll probably use system 1 again to pull in the $1,500 for advertising.

        Right now, I have a copy of Frank Kern's Mass Control 2 in a box in the other room. It is worthless to me. I'm not at the level I need to reach before I can use it. And when I reach that level, guess what? The $2,000 Frank charges for it will no longer be a lot of money.

        That's one of the things price tags are for. If it's a lot of money to you, chances are pretty good that you can't make use of it anyway. Go find something in your price range. And when you find your $7 or $10 product, don't expect to "make the BIG money" with it.

        Ray Kroc did not open his first McDonald's and sell billions and billions of hamburgers on day one, and the internet is not magic.
        Solid post. I think this post will help benefit many newbies
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  • Profile picture of the author webalfie
    Great advice!

    Mos advice and information out there is crap. And even if it's good most people that get the information will never know how to use it properly.

    The most important thing you need to know as an online marketer trying to make money is this...

    Everything is Selling.


    Whether you're writing a blog post trying to get social shares, trying to launch a successful facebook "like" campaign, trying to attract affiliates, etc it's all action oriented and to get action you need to "make a sale".

    Instead of buying these crappy hype books go out and get as many books on salesmanship and copywriting you can.

    Your writing abilities will earn you more than any other traffic generation skill (you still need traffic but if you can't convert people to take action no amount of traffic will be enough for you).
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  • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
    Originally Posted by BernardR View Post

    A word of sympathy and advice to you if you are so desperate to make cash that you allow yourself to be bounced around from Guru Product Launch to product launch.

    Truth is there is a lot of stuff out there that simply does not work ... products that will probably NOT teach you how to make an income from the web.

    Not saying all but there is a lot of stuff out there that will just leave you feeling deflated and broke.

    This is because that the guys launching these products have an amazing ability to convince you, they know how to show you 'proof' and testimonials that will hook you. They will tell you how they lived on the sidewalk until on day they managed to find one little thing that made them $$$$$$$ in 48 hours.

    IF YOU ARE LIABLE TO BE TAKEN IN BY THESE TYPES OF LAUNCHES THEN STOP GOING TO THE SALES PAGES TODAY ... MAKE A DECISION. Say no more BS for me!

    My humble advice on how you can and will start making money.

    1) Learn from the WF solid IM marketing techniques

    2) Create your own information product (s)
    You can do this, it is easier than you think. Just make sure you offer your customers VALUE

    3) Build a simple sales page & sell your product ... unless you are offering the world make sure it is a low ticket price

    4) Once you have this converting create additional offers either as upsells or back end products.

    It honestly is that simple. If you stop chasing the money, stop being hypnotised by fancy launches and knuckle down and build your own business money will eventually start coming into your account.

    One final tip ... in the mix of steps 1 to 4 BUILD A LIST

    Happy Weekend

    BERNARD
    I think the price depends on the product and who you are marketing it to, but I'm curious which guru's were you listening to that didn't mention the thing's on your list???
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    • Profile picture of the author BernardR
      Originally Posted by Walter Parrish View Post

      I think the price depends on the product and who you are marketing it to, but I'm curious which guru's were you listening to that didn't mention the thing's on your list???
      Not really going to name names as that is inappropriate.

      Plus I am pretty sure you have seen these hyped products that promise quick rich systems aimed at desperate newbies
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      • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
        Originally Posted by BernardR View Post

        Not really going to name names as that is inappropriate.

        Plus I am pretty sure you have seen these hyped products that promise quick rich systems aimed at desperate newbies
        I've been around affiliate marketing since near the beginning so, if someone strays from the basics I see it. The few courses I have watched lately cover the basics, along with the guru's tossing in their methods and ways of doing things. Well, worth what I paid for them and then some.
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        • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
          I will confess even though I haven't really started rolling out things yet, people in general tick me off. They want to know how to make money and then when you tell them take no action. I only have a few active folks on my list and other places. I just get tired of seeing people poor whining and not doing anything about it. Sometimes I want to grab them and stick their faces in it or use a whip to make them get motivated lolol.

          I'm pretty sure the guru's feel the same at some point and just figure hey, if they don't want to take action that's their business at least they can pay for my time.

          It all gets sort of insane to me to see someone sitting here on WF talking about I been doing this for 3 years with no results and then when you ask what they tried they really don't have details of what they have done, only showing you what they have done for a day.

          And I won't even talk about the wannabes working the forums in teams lolol. The thing with that is, I think they honestly think their smart and no one notices the game.

          I'm going to stop now and repeat what someone said earlier here. Do some reading, but I recommend that you do some reading on Psychology, NLP, Copywriting, Subliminals, there's some good ebooks and physical books on it, both by markers and non marketers, because they are surely running that game on here.
          One way of taking control of someone is repeating what they have said, you also can tell them what they already know, you also can sell them the dream. Read the books you guys will learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author 8485marketing
    Ive got to be honest, a lot of what I have found working closely in some cases with big earners is actually a lack of knowledge sometimes about the market they work in. They instead focus their efforts on being "salesy" and a good vocal point for the business. They drive people in their hoards to the new product which is nearly always rehashed information presented in a better way or more understandable way than the way they were taught it.

    There is nearly always a "brains" of the business that you never meet and hear very little about. They are the technical geniuses that produce and create the products in a way which leaves customers breaking down the doors to get in and buy it. The marketer we all see is just the very convincing salesperson and I have to give credit with some, they are brilliant at it.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoDemon
    yes, it's all about selling what others need, i have read a similar thread lately, but unfortunately the op was attacked by the GURUS
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  • Profile picture of the author bluedevil
    The next time you are tempted to drop $67 on an IM product, go buy a domain name instead and start writing content. Follow that up with the millions of tips to be found on this forum and you will see results much faster.
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  • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
    Originally Posted by mschulte94 View Post

    Has anyone heard of the Traffic Magnet Secret Weapon. Is it a scam or good?
    never heard of it, but it looks like something I wouldn't touch.
    promises of instant gratification and instant happiness would fall under someone working that manipulation. no one is going to get you paying traffic over night, especially without knowing what your business or niche is.
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  • Profile picture of the author LukeDavenport
    Awesome info! This is the stunning truth that most people cannot fathom.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Marketers have always worked off the dreams of people, we love the word lazy, do nothing, push a button ect.

    It works always has and always will.
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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
      Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke View Post

      Marketers have always worked off the dreams of people, we love the word lazy, do nothing, push a button ect.

      It works always has and always will.
      lol
      the funniest one I heard over the past two months is
      It Only Takes 5 Minutes a Week
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      • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
        Hey I'm no better, I bought push button marketer when in the day it came out lol. Damn that button still don't work right.
        Originally Posted by Walter Parrish View Post

        lol
        the funniest one I heard over the past two months is
        It Only Takes 5 Minutes a Week
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  • Profile picture of the author BernardR
    They want to keep selling you the same dream over and over again.

    Sadly their sales pitches are so powerful that a lot of people fall for it over and over again too
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    • Profile picture of the author David-JP
      Rule #1 Study what they do, not what they say!!!

      Sign up for their lists, play prospect. See how they are selling. If you are on more than one list, you'll also see how they structure their affiliate sales pitches and who's selling for them. If you can, sign up for their affiliate partnerships too.

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  • Profile picture of the author kencalhn
    right from David's post; I've never bought a $1997 whatever from any guru. Study what they do. Just read the WF and study the launch processes and other content from gurus, is enough to get you going. the forum here is amazing, takes a Lot of time to study, and well worth it (the old forum too, especially good).

    Tip: I set up a bunch of yahoo/hotmail accounts and optin and create separate ones for each guru I study, to see a) timing/headlines for emails b) who they jv with c) launch models.
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  • Profile picture of the author louie6925
    I hate the word Guru!, if you are hanging on the words of so caloled guru's then you will lose alot of money....simple as that! forget guru's and just look for someone succesful that is happy to help, without calling themselves a guru!

    Self acclaimed guru's are only successful because they've convinced vulnerable people they are one!
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  • Profile picture of the author Arief Ramadhan
    I've bought several WSO about product creation and all of them tell me this method exactly. Create an information product and sell and build the list from the buyer I got and then send affiliate promotion by broadcast email to make another money and repeat the same thing to keep increase your list. This is just an ordinary method that guru sells. I really agree, we need to avoid GURU hypnotism. The product possibly tells you about these method. Don't waste your money and start action!
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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
      Originally Posted by ariefrizkyr View Post

      I've bought several WSO about product creation and all of them tell me this method exactly. Create an information product and sell and build the list from the buyer I got and then send affiliate promotion by broadcast email to make another money and repeat the same thing to keep increase your list. This is just an ordinary method that guru sells. I really agree, we need to avoid GURU hypnotism. The product possibly tells you about these method. Don't waste your money and start action!
      Those are the basics, but when you are talking about beginners, they need to know those basics. Also, the guru's I have come across walk through everything step by step, showing beginners how it's done. They also add extra value by mentioning tools newbies can use to get things done faster.

      The other thing you need to keep in mind is that technology changes almost daily, so if you are stuck on the basics like the guy with the horse and buggy whips eventually you won't be able to keep up with the changes coming down the pike. So, it's a good thing to find out what the other guy is doing or what they have come up with at least once a month.
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    lol, great post! I still have to slap myself every now and again! I think what it comes down to two types of people. 1. the lazy ones that know what to do but still search because they don't want to do the work and 2. the people who just don't know! It's not easy thats for sure but with a bit of determination and a little patience good things will follow. yeah I agree building the list is probably one of the most important things you can do. Leverage! You are building yourself your own targeted traffic source over time!
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  • Profile picture of the author LukeDavenport
    Lots of truth here, Plenty of products will be great information for you..But will not get you started! People take that information and go okay this is great i know how to make money online now. Then don't implement what they were taught. Only SOME products help you progress. That is what will get you going, start building your business and get momentum.
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    • Profile picture of the author hodari
      In the beginning you don't know what you don't know. The learning curve can be steep for newbies. Some learning can't be skipped. You're going to have to bump your head until you figure some things out. That is why it is called evergreen.

      There will always be new people going in the funnel for the "gurus" to market to. The question is perhaps how fast you can move out that funnel and create your own funnels. The rules don't change only the players. Every day a person picks up a golf club and wants to be a good player. And there is a industry made just for them to get them there. If they ever make it "there" is another story.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    I agree 100%.... Fast track to becoming a "guru" is learning how to con people 99% of the time. There is a reason why the FTC and Google hate internet marketers, and it's because of the scamming that 99% of these "gurus" are doing..

    I get emails everyday from some of these clowns , talking about how they went from sleeping under a bridge, to becoming a millionaire by using one simple method, that requires no traffic, no website, no seo, no domain, no effort, no work, hell you don't even need any customers, you just need to buy their course, and the riches will come.

    Sometimes I write these clowns back, and ask them "are you freaking serious?"
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    • Profile picture of the author mickyl
      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      I agree 100%.... Fast track to becoming a "guru" is learning how to con people 99% of the time. There is a reason why the FTC and Google hate internet marketers, and it's because of the scamming that 99% of these "gurus" are doing..

      I get emails everyday from some of these clowns , talking about how they went from sleeping under a bridge, to becoming a millionaire by using one simple method, that requires no traffic, no website, no seo, no domain, no effort, no work, hell you don't even need any customers, you just need to buy their course, and the riches will come.

      Sometimes I write these clowns back, and ask them "are you freaking serious?"
      Totally agree with you. hack, they don't even need a computer to make money, all they need is some haste and they can turn it into pure gold:-)
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      There is a reason why the FTC and Google hate internet marketers, and it's because of the scamming that 99% of these "gurus" are doing..
      No, it's because of the scamming guys like you are doing because they think it's what the gurus do.

      I know easily more than thirty people who make five figures a month, and sell WSOs for under $20 right here on this forum that lay out the exact strategies they used when they were starting out.

      It was really pretty trivial for me to make $250 a day when I got here. I just took on a writing client and wrote ten articles at $25 a pop. Of course, first I had to prove I was worth $25 an article, which I did by writing for $7 an article, then $12 an article, then $15 and $20 and finally $25 - after about a month. Later I went to $50 an article. Now I don't write for clients at all.

      But it's not hard to figure out that $250 a day is $1,250 a week and $65k a year; I did this my first six months and pulled in significantly over $30k. Also not hard to figure out that $50 an article would be $130k per year (but I didn't do this for any appreciable amount of time, because of reasons). And hey presto, that's five figures a month.

      Missing pieces: (a) you have to be worth $50 an article which you're not, and (b) you need to have clients lined up every day of every week which you don't.

      However, you're undoubtedly worth $5 an article, which is $13k a year, which is more than a lot of people here are making. (Hell, it's more than I'm making, because most of my time is taken up with thoroughly unprofitable research and practice.) You can probably do $10 an article, if you can write coherent English. That's $100 a day. $500 a week. And $26k is not exactly a terrible income.

      But turning up your nose at anything short of guru-level money will leave you right where you are: making a grumpy face at the gurus and calling them names because they're "lying" to you about where they get their money.

      You don't need to know where they get money. You need to know where you can get money. And no, you cannot just wave a magic wand and turn yourself into Brad Gosse or Dr. Ben Adkins. It takes years of hard work.

      Knowing where the road leads is no good. You have to know where it starts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark72
    The biggest lie that most these guys will feed you is that they actually make the money they claim with the system they're trying to sell you.

    Most of the money in clickbank screen shots and account login videos are from vendor accounts or people with large lists.
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  • Profile picture of the author nav123
    I truly salute your efforts on writing this thread to warn people out there whom still believe that there's such thing as push button software. Honestly, I was once a victim too when I first started my IM journey. Anyway, in the positive side especially for those information product creators out there we can actually study the technique to sell by seeing the guru's sales page, squeezepage etc. The most importantly that triggers human's brain in my opinion is the price of the product which eventually end at .97 and .99. But of course please make sure you make an valuable product!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    Hi Bernard,

    Like your nonest approach and I am sure it can help to change peoples directions and point them towards success than chasing the next best thing.

    You also mentioned list building which is great advice.

    I know I was once caught in an endless cycle of being promoted the next best thing since life began etc etc.

    The life cycle spending for me as a customer must be one of the top 10 at least.

    I would get excited, do lots of work, have a couple of failures, get a bit downhearted and then they would pitch me something else.

    Then I would jump ship and buy that shiny new onject as it's described by many I.Mers.

    You have provided some great value here and that's what the W.F. is all about!

    All the best my friend and I wish you every success in the future...
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  • Profile picture of the author markwilson4074
    Sheer focus on one project only is what actually required to succeed. If you keep on reading stories of success/failure on various forums on daily basis then nothing will come up.

    "Take action" is the keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
    Originally Posted by BernardR View Post

    A word of sympathy and advice to you if you are so desperate to make cash that you allow yourself to be bounced around from Guru Product Launch to product launch.

    Truth is there is a lot of stuff out there that simply does not work ... products that will probably NOT teach you how to make an income from the web.

    Not saying all but there is a lot of stuff out there that will just leave you feeling deflated and broke.

    This is because that the guys launching these products have an amazing ability to convince you, they know how to show you 'proof' and testimonials that will hook you. They will tell you how they lived on the sidewalk until on day they managed to find one little thing that made them $$$$$$$ in 48 hours.

    IF YOU ARE LIABLE TO BE TAKEN IN BY THESE TYPES OF LAUNCHES THEN STOP GOING TO THE SALES PAGES TODAY ... MAKE A DECISION. Say no more BS for me!

    My humble advice on how you can and will start making money.

    1) Learn from the WF solid IM marketing techniques

    2) Create your own information product (s)
    You can do this, it is easier than you think. Just make sure you offer your customers VALUE

    3) Build a simple sales page & sell your product ... unless you are offering the world make sure it is a low ticket price

    4) Once you have this converting create additional offers either as upsells or back end products.

    It honestly is that simple. If you stop chasing the money, stop being hypnotised by fancy launches and knuckle down and build your own business money will eventually start coming into your account.

    One final tip ... in the mix of steps 1 to 4 BUILD A LIST

    Happy Weekend

    BERNARD
    Interesting thread.
    I've seen these before and I'm always curious as to which Guru is telling you there is no work involved. Every Guru I've come across covers a ton of work that has to be done.

    Or maybe I should be asking what's your definition of a Guru? I mean just because someone puts out a WSO it doesn't mean they are a guru.
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