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Just thought I would throw it out there as I have found many entrepreneurs say they never sleep, but they work all day

Could this be a bit of an exaggeration? The body does require some rest at some point, am I correct.

I have actually tried this, and I found out that - If I do stay up for 24 hours, than the very next day I would fall asleep maybe for an hour or two and then I would be ok. But eventually I did sleep.

I remember In my teens and early 20's I could stay up for days, even weeks at times, but now I don't see how this is possible.

What are your thoughts on this? Can you stay awake all the time, and if so how do you do it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    If I don't get enough sleep my productivity goes down. But then I'm not in my twenties anymore

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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    Yeah, I need to sleep.

    Once I've been writing for a long time my eyes start to get so heavy I can't keep them open and I start seeing double lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author intergen
    Funny you ask that - I was up until 4:00 am in California launching my first WSO - and its cranking - whoo hoo!

    But as far as regular sleep - I work A LOT. Probably 14 - 16 hours per day right now. Its a sprint as I'm spinning up new projects. I try to work in 90 minute bursts and then do something completely different (Modern Warfare 3 or the gym) and then back at it.

    I can run on 4 hours of sleep a night for quite a while. The book the 4 hour body by Tim Ferris teaches you how to get less sleep but feel fully rested. Check it out
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    • Profile picture of the author MP80
      Originally Posted by intergen View Post

      Funny you ask that - I was up until 4:00 am in California launching my first WSO - and its cranking - whoo hoo!

      But as far as regular sleep - I work A LOT. Probably 14 - 16 hours per day right now. Its a sprint as I'm spinning up new projects. I try to work in 90 minute bursts and then do something completely different (Modern Warfare 3 or the gym) and then back at it.

      I can run on 4 hours of sleep a night for quite a while. The book the 4 hour body by Tim Ferris teaches you how to get less sleep but feel fully rested. Check it out
      Congrat's on your WSO, but you may need some sleep now.. Your signature link is not working because it has two 'www.warriorforum.com'(s) in it.

      (Unless I'm just seeing double, and in need of some sleep myself. )


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    • Profile picture of the author David James
      Originally Posted by intergen View Post

      I can run on 4 hours of sleep a night for quite a while. The book the 4 hour body by Tim Ferris teaches you how to get less sleep but feel fully rested. Check it out
      Going to find that chapter right now, must have missed it first time round.
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      • Profile picture of the author nipsyr
        I try to get enough sleep at least 6 hours or more. There really is no reason to stay up for days. We have to respect our bodies and minds and not abuse them.

        If you have bi polar tendencies it can be easy to get into a manic phase and stay up for long periods but there comes the crash later.

        I know how to organise my time well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jrivera680
      Originally Posted by intergen View Post

      Funny you ask that - I was up until 4:00 am in California launching my first WSO - and its cranking - whoo hoo!

      But as far as regular sleep - I work A LOT. Probably 14 - 16 hours per day right now. Its a sprint as I'm spinning up new projects. I try to work in 90 minute bursts and then do something completely different (Modern Warfare 3 or the gym) and then back at it.

      I can run on 4 hours of sleep a night for quite a while. The book the 4 hour body by Tim Ferris teaches you how to get less sleep but feel fully rested. Check it out
      I definitely like your method. 90 min burst the MW3 or work out. nice
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  • Profile picture of the author ashcornejo
    You should check out the Forum Thread that Kim Roach posted If you search under "new posts" It should be there.... titled " 7 rules for getting your first $100,000" its a great Post!! you should check it out! It Speaks about getting Sleep!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Lee Jr
      Originally Posted by ashcornejo View Post

      You should check out the Forum Thread that Kim Roach posted If you search under "new posts" It should be there.... titled " 7 rules for getting your first $100,000" its a great Post!! you should check it out! It Speaks about getting Sleep!!!

      Actually ashcornejo, Kim's first rule inspired me to start this thread. She said she is up by 6, and some of the responses to that were interesting.

      For me, after trying to do the 24 hour thing, I have decided to set a schedule of being sleep by 11pm then back up to start the day at 3am.

      I just wanted to see if most folks have a similar schedule, or am I falling behind.

      Thanks everyone, it does look like just about all of us are getting some sort of rest at some point throughout the day
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      • Profile picture of the author MP80
        Originally Posted by Martin Lee Jr View Post

        Kim's first rule inspired me to start this thread. She said she is up by 6, and some of the responses to that were interesting.
        Well, I'm actually up by 6am everyday too (Moscow time.)

        The only problem is that I live on the east coast of Australia, and not in Russia! :p
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      • Profile picture of the author ashcornejo
        Originally Posted by Martin Lee Jr View Post

        Actually ashcornejo, Kim's first rule inspired me to start this thread. She said she is up by 6, and some of the responses to that were interesting.

        For me, after trying to do the 24 hour thing, I have decided to set a schedule of being sleep by 11pm then back up to start the day at 3am.

        I just wanted to see if most folks have a similar schedule, or am I falling behind.

        Thanks everyone, it does look like just about all of us are getting some sort of rest at some point throughout the day
        I know me too!! Haha... I want to apply it! ! But its so hard!
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    • Profile picture of the author jwmann2
      I get nine hours per night and then do the errands I need to do for the day and then begin my work for the rest of the evening until it's time for bed. Everyday feels the same and it gets old but it's extremely rewarding. Seven days a week I work and it doesn't feel like work. I guess I'm doing ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author faisalmaximus
    For me, when I say I don't sleep, means I keep awake at night. Nights are awesome to concentrate on work, I work till 5/6AM and then sleep for 6 hours, this is my regular routine.
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    • Profile picture of the author John J M
      Originally Posted by faisalmaximus View Post

      For me, when I say I don't sleep, means I keep awake at night. Nights are awesome to concentrate on work, I work till 5/6AM and then sleep for 6 hours, this is my regular routine.
      I actually love to do this when I can as well. For some reason, I get a lot more done working at night. That being said, good sleep the majority of the time is important. I find that if I am really going on a project one week, having a day where I take a really long nap helps restore my body and mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
    Up until a year or two ago I went on about 20 hours of sleep a week. I have slowed down a lot lately and actually sleep about 6 hours a night now.

    As a kid, I rarely slept and when I got into marketing in my twenties I would often go days at a time without sleep, simply because I couldn't sleep. When my mind gets going it doesn't want to stop, so I just go with it.

    I also always have and still do my best thinking during the wee hours.

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    • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
      Originally Posted by faisalmaximus View Post

      For me, when I say I don't sleep, means I keep awake at night. Nights are awesome to concentrate on work, I work till 5/6AM and then sleep for 6 hours, this is my regular routine.
      Yeah, I'm a night owl too, though I try to discipline myself to go to bed at least by 3 a.m. though I don't always succeed.

      Actually, I've tried for years to make it to bed before midnight, or at least 1 a.m.

      But that's like telling someone with a bedtime of 10 pm to go to bed by 6 or 7 pm. Not going to happen!

      Last night I worked on a wonky web page on a deadline and was up till 8!!! Then got about 4 or so hours of sleep. And I'm paying for it now.

      And yes, I also find that night time is among my most productive time.

      Of course, who knows. I might be more productive during the day if only I went to bed earlier???
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      • Profile picture of the author MP80
        Originally Posted by wordwizard View Post

        Yeah, I'm a night owl too, though I try to discipline myself to go to bed at least by 3 a.m. though I don't always succeed.

        Actually, I've tried for years to make it to bed before midnight, or at least 1 a.m.

        But that's like telling someone with a bedtime of 10 pm to go to bed by 6 or 7 pm. Not going to happen!

        Last night I worked on a wonky web page on a deadline and was up till 8!!! Then got about 4 or so hours of sleep. And I'm paying for it now.

        And yes, I also find that night time is among my most productive time.

        Of course, who knows. I might be more productive during the day if only I went to bed earlier???
        Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one.. I totally relate to what you are saying. It's 4.30am here at the moment, and each day I keep telling myself that I will make it to bed by 2am, lol. Yesterday it was 6am, and I think today is gonna be the same.

        (Strictly speaking, I'm not exactly working right now, though. )
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  • Profile picture of the author TomYevsikov
    stay up for days? weeks? holy golden cows!

    I don't think they mean it when they say they never sleep, just work a lot.

    they work hard not that smart I guess...

    somtimes you do work "over-time", but the thing is that you decide the hours you work, so if you don't sleep, you're gonna have a bad time...
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  • Profile picture of the author nbsteuv
    I'm really impressed by the hours people put into IM. I'm still a bit of a newbie myself, but it's nice to see that everyone else hasn't discovered some magic formula to work ten minutes a day and make a full time living.
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  • Profile picture of the author Arief Ramadhan
    I can stay all day long and in fact I post this reply at around 1:30AM in Indonesia time. But then I will sleep all day long as well.

    It's not good for someone to work whole day, the body needs to rest. We need to manage our work time and rest time.
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  • Profile picture of the author DannyFikes
    I subscribe to the theory that some people are sprinters and some are marathoners. I'm a marathoner. I find I'm most productive when I pace myself. Although I've had a few experiences with working hard (and sleeping little) for a week, then taking a week to work less and rest.

    It's all about what works for you. And you'll never know until you try it all out. Testing in life is as important as testing in IM
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  • Profile picture of the author lollobrigida
    I recommend a IMHO very interesting interview with successful entrepreneurs on the subject "how hard they work".

    Among the 12 people interviewed were such well known guys as Darren Rowse (Problogger), Rand Fishkin (SEOMoz), Aaron Wall (SEO Book), Neil Patel (Quicksprout), Chris Pearson (Thesis Theme), Shawn Collins (Affiliate Summit) and Yaro Starak (Entrepreneurs-Journey).

    Turns out they all have a 7 day work week and work an average of around 80 hours per week. For me that interview pretty much put an end to the myth of the "4-hour-week" ...at least I think that one has to work very hard to get there.

    On the other hand I for my part feel so compassionate about my work... that it doesn't really feel like "work"... I simply do what I like to do. Having the freedom to adjust my work to my own rhythm and my own inner clock is unparalleled and worth more than money.

    I am and always have been a night owl... and I hardly ever sleep more than 6 hours. Sometimes I have to force myself to take breaks.
    With those guys in the interview above... I think I'm in excellent company.
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  • Profile picture of the author lovboa
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    The longest I ever made it without sleeping is about 3 days.

    I also read that you will start hallucinating after 3 nights of not sleeping.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wade32
    The first 4 months of my IM career, I didn't sleep that much...maybe 4-5 hrs per night. After learning a bit more, I started to slow down and create a schedule.

    Now I sleep all the time! My sites are where I want them to be, I'm making the money I want to make, I am definitely catching up on some lost sleep time!
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  • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
    Sleep is extremely important for overall health, I really recommend at least 7 hours of sleep no matter what just to stay healthy. That's my 2 cents sir
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  • Profile picture of the author JayParker
    I sleep around 7 hours a day, sometimes less, I'm going to try sleep better, but I like to work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
    Of course, 7-8 hours per day.
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  • Profile picture of the author A.Green
    I'm actually better at working tired now than I was in my teens and twenties. I need more sleep in winter than in summer, though, so I take advantage of the summer to work a lot.

    I also read that you will start hallucinating after 3 nights of not sleeping.
    I've heard that, too. There was a radio DJ who ran some kind of promotion based on him staying up as long as he could and after a while he started hallucinating on the same cycle the sleeping brain dreams on. So he was essentially having waking dreams.

    Here's more about him (Peter Tripp): Sleep Deprivation: From Insomnia to World Records
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  • Profile picture of the author Baadier Sydow
    I find myself working obscene hours and then crashing, at least once a week where my body is just too exhausted and I physically cannot go on.
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    I usually get to bed fairly early and wake up early as well; although, there are nights/days where I'm up for 2-3 days straight working on something.

    It's not uncommon for me to be up at least 24 hours straight when working on something.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I've been an insomniac for as long as I can remember. 5 hrs is a long night's sleep for me. 4 hrs. is good ... less than that, I feel pretty tired. It isn't a choice really. It's just my "clock" I guess.

    But I don't work all the waking hours. I read, have hobbies and do other things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Online Guru
    Less than 8 hrs of sleep I can't even thinking properly.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoDemon
    i sleep 5 hours a day, and the most annoying thing is that i dream of work while i'm sleeping, last night i was dreaming that i was sending my clients their designs, and was making revisions in the dream too, LOL
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  • Sleep is very important for me, i have a family to look after. I need enough strength to be able to do my job and to be able to prepare everything for may family. I guess we all need to sleep, 4, 5, 6... hours of sleep is enough to keep us going for the whole day.
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  • Profile picture of the author fnoperi1
    7 to 9 hours a day for me. If you want to lose weight, you better get some sleep. I notice when I don't I start feeling cranky, hungrier, lost, and can't think right. When I'm working on the computer, & tried to work late to finish my school work, I automatically fell asleep on my PC, haha.
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  • Profile picture of the author fedor50
    Originally Posted by Martin Lee Jr View Post

    Just thought I would throw it out there as I have found many entrepreneurs say they never sleep, but they work all day

    Could this be a bit of an exaggeration? The body does require some rest at some point, am I correct.

    I have actually tried this, and I found out that - If I do stay up for 24 hours, than the very next day I would fall asleep maybe for an hour or two and then I would be ok. But eventually I did sleep.

    I remember In my teens and early 20's I could stay up for days, even weeks at times, but now I don't see how this is possible.

    What are your thoughts on this? Can you stay awake all the time, and if so how do you do it?
    Many marketers I know do sleep, but generally at very infrequent and random times and not for the recommend 8 hours like their suppose to
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  • Profile picture of the author greenowl123
    I take a 3 hour nap every Sunday. Coffee is your friend.

    I also take a shower every Sunday, whether I need one or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author anonymous99
    realistically we all need sleep... but im get 6 hours a nitgh, work the rest
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  • Profile picture of the author Always-A-Warrior
    Eric Thomas talks about giving up sleep @ 2:55

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    I spend between 2-4 hours of sleep and on weekends 4-6 hours.

    My mind is constantly thinking.
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  • Profile picture of the author contentwriting360
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    Our bodies are built to get enough sleep. So what can be considered enough sleep for you? It depends on you. Sometimes, there are people who feel they've slept good enough already for a 3 to 4-hour worth of sleep. Some slept for 12 hours and they still feel tired when they woke up. Generally, it's recommended to have at least 8 hours of sleep. I sleep every day though I don't meet the 8-hour quota sometimes.
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  • Profile picture of the author freebuys
    Sometimes i gonna be a tired because of so much hard working then only sleeping make me fee again. So its very natural thing to take always .Basically, I always try to sleep at least 6 hours in a day.
    I would like to sleep always.
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    • Profile picture of the author kolled
      I've tried working the entire day and night for a number of times. Usually, things flow very well, bit if I try for the second night, concentration plummets.

      My tests have shown that I must sleep for at least 4 hours every day, though in practice I do 5 hours. I've also wondered how this guys can 'never sleep' and remain productive throughout.
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  • Profile picture of the author wordpressmania
    Without sleep a man can not work continuously. We are not Machine that is why need to eat and need to get rest.... Those who says they do not get sleep they are some kind of crazy people who does not know what to do and when to do...
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  • Profile picture of the author bamstk090
    i sleep 4 hour at night and 3 hours at noon
    too much sleep
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  • Profile picture of the author Litherland
    Sleep helps to recharge your batteries. I think all Internet marketers should sleep but as people say, the internet never sleeps
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidG
    What happens when a horse is forced to run more than it's suppose to?

    Resting is a huge part of success... I mean some people can stay up all night or sleep too little... but ask yourself if it's healthy for your body. Is it?

    Sometimes when I get hungry and don't eat.. the hunger goes away. But that doesn't mean that "It's just me therefore I'll just keep working..." it means that your body is now eating itself since there is no food.

    Get your rest on.

    Just my .02
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  • Profile picture of the author therichb
    I really dont remember last time I went to sleep for long hours... My busy schedule keeps me loaded with too many activities that I cant even think of sleeping lately...

    Bad luck for me, even I am not enough free to give time to my sleep on regular basis, making me sometimes sick & too much tired.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Ever since I learned how to make money online way back 2002, I think I can count the nights that I slept for more than 6 hours. I always go to bed at 12AM and wake up at around 5AM (unless I took alcohol the last night )...
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  • Profile picture of the author rising_sun
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    Actually it is just a talk .
    Just think is it possible?
    Actually they do it according to their need ,not like a lazy man.
    This is why ,they are saying never sleep.
    I think you are clear.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew74
    I am not productive without enough sleep. I need 7hours a night, if i don't get my 7hrs i am stuffed and really unproductive the next day. I wish i only needed 4hrs, it pisses me off some people only need a few hours sleep. I wish my body/mind could handle that. *******S
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  • Profile picture of the author aries mu
    Sleep is an invigorating one.
    Sleep is part of life.

    How ever there are a lot of time sleeping when death.
    But m if you not sleep. The time came up.
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  • Profile picture of the author WiltonChu
    I think its just over stating that entrepreneurs don't sleep. I am an entrepreneur and I can't fulfill my duties and responsibilities when I lack sleep. I don't know if you feel the same, but one time I had only an hour sleep the following day, I feel that my head is so light and my eyes are terrible. I don't know if it goes with age but then I think a person needs atleast 6 hours sleep.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
    Originally Posted by Martin Lee Jr View Post

    Just thought I would throw it out there as I have found many entrepreneurs say they never sleep, but they work all day

    Could this be a bit of an exaggeration? The body does require some rest at some point, am I correct.

    I have actually tried this, and I found out that - If I do stay up for 24 hours, than the very next day I would fall asleep maybe for an hour or two and then I would be ok. But eventually I did sleep.

    I remember In my teens and early 20's I could stay up for days, even weeks at times, but now I don't see how this is possible.

    What are your thoughts on this? Can you stay awake all the time, and if so how do you do it?
    When I was a teenager and far more stupid than I am now... my friends and I had a bet to see how long we could go without sleeping at all. I managed 8 days (and turned into a total bitch), the 'winner' lasted 10 days (and was only slightly more responsive than a zombie).

    Unfortunately, my brain turned to mush after about 48 hours...

    Being so much older and wiser now (hah!), the last time I did a marathon work run was about 2 years ago. 80 hours with no sleep to meet a software launch deadline. After about 50 hours I just wanted to croak RedBull and excessive use of energy drinks got me through to 80 hours, when I actually fell asleep at my desk and ended up with keyboard face :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author ragstworiches
    Wow, a lot of people not sleeping v much and working way too hard.

    If you work smart, you should be able to get everything done in 35-40 hours a week, leaving plenty of time for 8/9 hours sleep a night.

    if you can't then outsource or do something else.
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  • I have, on and off, problems to fall asleep because my brain is always racing and thinking of ways to improve my business. I rarely sleep more than 6 hours, and rarely in one go.
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  • Profile picture of the author Connie Lim
    Everyday I will wake up at 6:30am (Malaysia time), send my sis to school then go to office, reach office around 8:00am. Will go home at 6:00pm, then start my IM at 8:00pm - 10:00pm...... can't wait to get a good result in IM, so that I can concentrate on IM full time
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Kelly
    Hi,

    It's a rarity to meet someone who can function well on 4 hours sleep/night. I know we have all heard this before, yet 7-8 hours quality sleep is necessary for optimal functioning.

    You can function on less, but in the vast majority of cases (humans not robots!), you are not tapping into your true capability.

    'Rest up, relax and then load up for the next day' !

    cheers, Patrick
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  • Profile picture of the author kencalhn
    i sleep 10:30pm-4am daily, and often take brief afternoon naps... my customers always ask me "when do you sleep?" since I produce a lot of content... good health is important, I need to EXERCISE more, which I don't.
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  • Profile picture of the author mdan287
    I need minimum 6 hours sleep a day. Because it refresh my body and make me more capable of doing things in the right way.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebDomain
    early sleep about 5 hours because work offline and online
    now work only online - and sleep about 7 hours
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  • Profile picture of the author snapping
    why stay up for 24 hours? it is not good to your health? no matter how much money you have, you cannot buy a good health.
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  • Profile picture of the author eugenedm
    I know IM is exhausting but I definitely need to sleep to keep my brain going. If I don't sleep at night, I can't understand a thing the next day. So lack of sleep really affects your health and your productivity.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Theriot
    I'm a full-time work-at-home copywriter, and we just had a baby 9 months ago, while my wife works full-time on weekdays. I let her get the sleep, I take care of the baby at night because I can sleep in. I often do, but I hardly ever feel like I'm getting enough sleep. You get used to it though. I've actually found that I am more productive when I am awake now that I get less sleep. It sounds counter-intuitive, but I think it's a matter of being awake so long, I get bored so I just go ahead and finish a couple things here, do a few more things there, and stuff moves along and gets done.
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  • Profile picture of the author kilco16
    6 hours at least per night.. Your brain cannot function efficiently without sleep
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  • Profile picture of the author kamaruzz
    I sleep less than 4 hours a day. I slept the night between the hours of 3 or 4 am. It made me constantly hallucinate in the day. My job performance is declining. doctors say that I may become sick with insomnia.
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  • Profile picture of the author sadneck
    I love sleep, but it is rare when I get to actually par-take in its wonderful bliss. 6 to 7 a night, but there are rare nights I will go without!
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  • Profile picture of the author fenomeno
    I need and I do sleep 8-10 hours per day. I still could stay up for 2-3 days, but I dont want to rape myself in that way for work, that is reserved only for a good party
    But I am nervous if I dont sleep at least 7-8 hours
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  • Profile picture of the author denysapu
    24hours with my laptop, but not for many days. I couldn't sleep and there's only internet and computers. And I just learning about IM that time, so enjoy it very much (although no money I can get in that time, just few lessons from the internet)
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  • Profile picture of the author mikefrommaine
    Sometimes I have to force myself to sleep...but I'll wake up in the middle of the night to check my Adsense...addiction!
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  • Profile picture of the author sav
    I'm not as able to stay awake as I'm reading other people in this thread. However, no matter what time I sleep, I always wake up, if undisturbed, at 10-12.
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  • Profile picture of the author jpsween88
    Entrepreneurship is living a few years of your life like most people wont, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't.

    A lot of us in IM sacrifice sleep to eventually get where we want
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  • Profile picture of the author shane_k
    A better question is how much sleep do you yourself need in order to perform at your maximum capabilities?

    if you can focus and do good work with 4,5, or 6 hours of sleep then keep it up.

    However, if you are still tired and unfocused and you aren't not performing very well, because you are trying to be like the big players who say they never sleep then that is a problem.

    Others might be able to sleep 4 hours a night but for me personally to be at my best performance I know I need at least 6 hours.

    Figure out what works for you best instead of trying to be like the big players
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    • Profile picture of the author theemperor
      I'm a cat I usually need 9 hours sleep per day to feel rested. Perhaps this is why it is taking me longer than other people who got successful in a few months, but I don't care, you need to work with the body and mind you are given.

      Also reading Tim Ferris, EMyth etc. shows you that you can work smart and not need to do so many hours by having proper systems in place. I challenge anyone doing an 18 hour day to do a postmortem and figure out if it could all be done using only 8 hours of their time, or maybe 2
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraLarkin
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    I just do not get how people can stay up for 17+ hours and spend all of their time on the computer. I need time off, I take it off. That is what being your own boss is for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Angellos
    Jim Rohn says make sleep a necessity, not an objective. We take rest, which the body and mind needs, many people sleep 8-10 hrs or even more per day. That's making sleep an objective.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jerome15
    we need to have enough sleep for us to be productive and our mind works properly
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Shaw
    The amount of time I sleep is not a problem for me. The problem is trying to get to sleep after having a new IM idea and the huge amounts of coffee I have drank. I love working through the night and sleep in the day, a little anti-social though!
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Rodrigues
    I need to get my 8 hours, call me weak
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    • Profile picture of the author shane_k
      Originally Posted by vueduejoe View Post

      I need to get my 8 hours, call me weak

      This is a part of my point. Is the op staying awake because he likes working on his business, or is he staying awake because he heard that is what the big buys to and he is trying to emulate them?

      What he might not understand is maybe those big players are saying that to try and show off how much of hard workers they are by saying they never sleep.

      Or maybe it's a look how strong and motivated I am kind of manly thing.

      Like their way of saying how much can you bench press? Well I bench press 250lbs, and the other one is saying well I bench press 300lbs.

      Sleeping 8 hours doesn't make you weak, if your body needs 8 hours of sleep for you to be your most productive then so be it.

      And being able to work for 3 days straight without sleep doesn't make you strong or seem impressive. At least in my eyes.
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      • Profile picture of the author MovingAround
        Originally Posted by shane_k View Post

        This is a part of my point. Is the op staying awake because he likes working on his business, or is he staying awake because he heard that is what the big buys to and he is trying to emulate them?

        What he might not understand is maybe those big players are saying that to try and show off how much of hard workers they are by saying they never sleep.

        Or maybe it's a look how strong and motivated I am kind of manly thing.

        Like their way of saying how much can you bench press? Well I bench press 250lbs, and the other one is saying well I bench press 300lbs.

        Sleeping 8 hours doesn't make you weak, if your body needs 8 hours of sleep for you to be your most productive then so be it.

        And being able to work for 3 days straight without sleep doesn't make you strong or seem impressive. At least in my eyes.
        This.

        They may also be saying it to fool others to do it and thus render their potential competitors incompetent. Never take for granted anything that is extravagant, there's many reasons as to why it could be fake or wildly exaggerated.

        I run my own business (online) and the minimum I need daily is 6 hours to be productive. I bring in enough money too (as in 5 digits/monthly) and while I could bring a bit more, I believe that with my current daily sleep (6-7 hours) I am balancing a good income with good sleep. In other words, it is possible to have a business and get sleep!
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  • Profile picture of the author jiehaotan
    I'm one of those entrepreneurs that fall in the category of Workaholics! I wouldn't say that I never sleep but I sleep only 5 hours per day everyday because I'm so caught up with work! I probably sleep from 12am to 5am every day.

    P.S I have HUGE eyebags.
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  • Profile picture of the author Socialbakers
    If you have ever tried to stay awake for couple of days without even an hour of sleep, you had to notice that your productivity goes down and down. So, if you will do the calculations it's not even worth it in the end, because the work that you would normally finish in an hour would a sleepy body taken three hours.

    It's just not worth it!
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  • Profile picture of the author CurtisSWN
    I need about 6 hours myself, but why try to conform to any pattern? Sleep when you need it, find your work rhythm and you'll go far
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Rhodes
    Sleep has been proven to be beneficial to productivity. Therefore, I sleep for 8 hours every day. The lack of sleep can be fatal, so I would not recommend that any budding entrepreneurs sacrifice their sleep in order to do more work.
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  • Profile picture of the author jawasismanjanik
    i am like to sleep 6 hours on night, and 2 hours at noon.

    6 plus 2 = 8 hours. too much sleep...
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  • Profile picture of the author gr29
    I need at least 10 hours sleep each day plus an hour's sleep in the afternoon too some days. I have trouble staying awake otherwise.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eythil
    What's sleep? Haha.

    Nah, I sleep about 6-8 hours a day, and sometimes even more.
    Marketing is a bit strenuous for my brain, as well as this thing called exercise my body still isn't too used to. xP
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  • Profile picture of the author usainbolt
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    Should get at least 6 hrs a day for health and productivity reasons
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  • Profile picture of the author ceenote100
    No. I'll sleep when I'm dead!
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  • Profile picture of the author excelso
    Sleep requirements vary from person to person and even from day to day. The average sleep requirement is eight hours, but the normal range is six to nine hours per night.
    But sometimes if you enjoy with your job, hobby or everything you do, time feel like it goes faster and will affect to our sleep time..
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  • Profile picture of the author JeffHylands
    At first I didn't much. My mind wouldn't shut of when I was learning new things, I always thought about site improvements, always woke up to see if sales came in ect.. Now I am so used to everything that I can step away from the computer and not care or even think about it.

    Working 14 plus hours a day is so unhealthy you can't sustain it. Read the 4 hour work week. Outsource most of the dirty work to qualified people and do what you love for a few hours a day and watch the money come in. Always get your sleep
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  • Profile picture of the author funkynassau
    You cant stay awake indefinitely, and why would anyone want to? Your brain goes mushy after a while and you cant do the simplest of things. Anyone who says they never sleep is full of it. I keep a regular, normal schedule, up at 7 am and in bed around 10:30 - 11 pm. Sometimes I have a cat nap in the afternoon.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    To sleep properly at night requires 2 things:

    1) Balanced/clean diet. 3-4 servings of veggies EVERYDAY along with 3-4 servings of protien. I see SO MANY people who eat too many simple carbs, too little veggies, too little protien, and have HORRIBLE sleep issues. Your body needs protien to sleep at night, and needs veggies to give you energy during the day. So w/out these 2 for a long enough time you can easily become an insomniac.

    Other things that screw up sleep are cigarettes, caffiene (obviously) but one of the most significant insomnia triggers is actually sugar. Many people don't realize this. If you persistently take in lots of sugared drinks like soda, tea, orange juice, apple juice, this can also trigger insomnia over a short amount of time. In fact sugar has been shown to trigger insomnia worse than most things I can think of.

    Then there are pharmaceuticals like blood pressure medicine, pain killers, and even sleep medicines can trigger rebound insomnia.

    2) Exercise. If you sit around by a computer all day chances are you'll have issues sleeping at night. If you smoke and spend a lot of time on the computer, and drink caffiene, this will make things that much worse.

    Being chronically dehydrated can also keep you awake so make sure you always get a lot of water. As far as exercise I try to run at least 30-45 minutes a day on days I don't work out. On days I DO work out I usually won't run. But if I don't exercise at all I do notice its much harder to fall asleep at night. At one point I went like 2 years not exercising, drinkings tons of sugar/caffiene, had a horrible diet, and my insomnia got so bad I was begining to skip nights of sleep.

    So you really got to pay attention to your health and I think sleep is one of the primary ways your body guages this. Bad sleep usually correlates to bad health, good sleep with good health. Sure there are exceptions, but for the most part this concept seems to hold true.

    ps. here is one simple fact but if diabetes runs in your family sugar is 3xs more likely to cause insomnia for you. There is a great video on youtube called "Sugar - The Bitter Truth" that goes into depth about all the long term effects sugar has on your body, its a very good watch imo for anyone who is addicted to sugar.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    If you want to sleep less and have more time to do stuff you should check out polyphasic sleep, check out Steve Pavlina's blog, no need to buy a book about it:

    Polyphasic Sleep

    He did it and it works but you have to be religiously committed to the times you actually sleep or it's not going to work. It severely limits your ability to be out and about, really, as you absolutely need that shut eye every four hours or whatever it is...

    Also takes time adjusting.

    Interesting stuff...
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Kennedy
    There is no way I could concentrate on work if I had 3-4 hours sleep. I have pulled the odd all-nighter but more than one in a row? No way I just can't function properly. It doesn't help my bed being just a few metre's away and when tired all I want to do is watch TV and lie down . I end up just sleeping in the day if I try to go without sleep and mess up my pattern.
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  • Profile picture of the author chroncile
    Work smart, not hard. No sleep = no productivity. I watched a 'motivational' video where this guy told people that some days you need to stay up 3 days in a row. That is actually counterproductive because you start to hallucinate, your concentration drops, creativity drops, cognition basically goes down the drain, after a certain number of hours without sleep.
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  • Profile picture of the author TonyDalton
    I normally sleep for 5-6 hours/day although this has been reduced to 4-5 since my baby girl was born
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  • Profile picture of the author tianan
    I was only sleeping for 4 hours a day for a while, but my performance at work was absolutely miserable. Different people need different amounts of sleep - for me it's 8 hours or I'm dying.
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    • Profile picture of the author smak
      The few times that I have gone through all night without sleeping, I found myself turned into hot tempered lunatic. Slightest irratation turned in green.

      I found 8.5 hours sleep suite me well.
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  • Profile picture of the author ajitam
    Try "the DaVinci" way

    Sleeps 15 minutes on each 3 hours. Thats around 2-3 hours of sleep per day.

    Is it possible? I don't know.

    Friend of mine say that it is hard to get use to, but after a week or two it is great. I will try to live this way at the end of the year.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sam England
      SLEEP!!!...5-6 hours a night is good for me...most successful IMer's that I know work long hours and late hours...it depends on how bad you want what you are going after and everyone has different goals, etc...

      We are all different folks, and all do things differently...I think it would suck if we all lived in a world where we were all the same and did the same things...BORING...

      Good post...have a great day WARRIORS....
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisha5684
    I get about 9-10 hours of sleep a night. That's the way I like it. I do feel most productive at night, but I like to keep somewhat normal sleeping hours, so I sleep from 1am-10am on average.
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  • Profile picture of the author TerranceCharles
    Seriously, I barely sleep! I can sleep when I'm dead, until then... There's money to be made
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  • Profile picture of the author UltimateOMG
    Guys! You need to sleep! The body needs to recuperate unless you are some biological marvel! Your health will start to deteriorate in the long run if you aren't noticing the effects already. Pace yourself, plan well, do whatever you will, but sleep, if only for a few hours. No point making the big bucks online and then not having the health to enjoy it.
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