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If you had the domain name romneyryan.com what would you do with it? The domain is currently pointed to Mitt's actual campaign site
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Plank
    What I would do is... probably receive a nastily worded letter and have to give it up for free.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
      Originally Posted by Robert Plank View Post

      What I would do is... probably receive a nastily worded letter and have to give it up for free.

      Yep... I think that sums it up nicely.

      I do not sell domains and things like that, but I think that is called cyber squatting.

      Here's more information on that... Cyber Squatting
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Shannon,
        I do not sell domains and things like that, but I think that is called cyber squatting.

        Here's more information on that... Cyber Squatting
        Hmmm. Maybe. I'm not sure that would apply to a site about politics, though. It would be interesting to hear from Dave or one of the other people here who are familiar with the law on this sort of thing.


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        • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Shannon,Hmmm. Maybe. I'm not sure that would apply to a site about politics, though. It would be interesting to hear from Dave or one of the other people here who are familiar with the law on this sort of thing.


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          That is a great point Paul. Did not think of it that way. In all honesty though, I do not do anything in the domain field so I am very uneducated in this particular field.
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      • Profile picture of the author davezan
        Originally Posted by Shannon Herod View Post

        Yep… I think that sums it up nicely.

        I do not sell domains and things like that, but I think that is called cyber squatting.

        Here's more information on that… Cyber Squatting
        Notice the Wikipedia entry mentioning, though, of profiting from the goodwill of a
        trademark of someone or something. Unless the politicians in question can show
        they have established trademark rights to their respective names, the OP might -
        to an extent - be able to make money off of that domain name still.

        Generally politicians or political figures are fair game, although they can create or
        establish trademark rights like Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin (?) are. Not that it's
        necessarily going to stop Romney or Ryan from pursuing this matter should one or
        both of them see fit, though.

        Whatever you decide, OP, just be ready to deal with it. Oh, and don't sell that to
        either one of them directly given that there is a law on cyberpiracy protection of
        individuals.

        Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author dbx3
      Originally Posted by Robert Plank View Post

      What I would do is... probably receive a nastily worded letter and have to give it up for free.
      Hahaha, this right here. This, right here.
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      • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
        Someone went the "windfall" route (see my earlier post) with a predictable result. Read a story of a $250,000 price at one point.

        The domain did not sell at auction. Now, with the convention over, and initial buzz about the domain gone, it may be becoming less valuable. Even if Romney wins the Presidency, IMHO who the VP is for a domain is more valuable before the election and not after, when the VP quickly slips into obscurity.

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        • Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

          The domain did not sell at auction. Now, with the convention over, and initial buzz about the domain gone, it may be becoming less valuable. Even if Romney wins the Presidency, IMHO who the VP is for a domain is more valuable before the election and not after, when the VP quickly slips into obscurity.
          Reminds me of the time a couple of years ago that a certain unlikely Scottish singer's video went viral.

          The owner of SusanBoyle.com (who was also named Susan Boyle) put her domain up for auction. We'll never know how much she would have taken finally but I offered $23,000 and was turned down. The geniuses at Sedo were telling her to hold out for a lot more -- she told me that in email.

          She still has the domain. The record company went with SusanBoyleMusic.com.

          It's not enough to get lucky -- you have to know how to play your cards or you get nothing.

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  • Profile picture of the author Wade32
    Post the regular political stuff on there, political ads... Different things like this. I would do a keyword search on this topic and see what people are searching about this guy before I made any decisions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    Before you do anything with particular domain you should contact your attorney or consult an internet attorney

    My opinion only.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    spreadingromney would be better than romneyryan... look how successful is spreadingsantorum
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianCorcoran
    You can only get into trouble if the name romney or ryan is copyrighted. SO yeah, consult an attorney but I cant see how two pretty common names could possibly be copyright!

    But nothing ever shocks me when it comes to claims of copyright violation!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by BrianCorcoran View Post

      You can only get into trouble if the name romney or ryan is copyrighted.
      This is incorrect. There are several other circumstances under which you can very easily get into trouble.

      And yet another good reason (as if one were needed) of why people shouldn't ask for, offer or rely on legal advice from a forum.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...al-advice.html
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by David Hooper View Post

        By the time you get an attorney involved, you'll have missed your opportunity. Whatever you do, do it now.
        My thoughts exactly. Any strategy that takes more than a couple of months would be a wasted opportunity.

        After the second Tuesday in November, the domain will likely be worthless.

        I'd probably try to flip it to the highest bidder, which could be the Romney campaign or some car dealer in the middle of nowhere (Romney Ryan Ford?).
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    • Profile picture of the author ShyleyMacFarland
      Originally Posted by BrianCorcoran View Post

      You can only get into trouble if the name romney or ryan is copyrighted. SO yeah, consult an attorney but I cant see how two pretty common names could possibly be copyright!

      But nothing ever shocks me when it comes to claims of copyright violation!
      Can names even BE copyrighted??
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      • Profile picture of the author davezan
        Originally Posted by ShyleyMacFarland View Post

        Can names even BE copyrighted??
        Not copyrighted, but become trademarks. Gianni Versace...Vidal Sassoon...Yves
        Saint Laurent...even Kim Kardashian, but only if used in commerce.
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  • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
    Advertise Obama.

    I kid.

    Political stuff. The type would depend on who I wanted to win. I would come up with some type of logo and put it on merch by CafePress.

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  • Profile picture of the author David Hooper
    By the time you get an attorney involved, you'll have missed your opportunity. Whatever you do, do it now.
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  • Profile picture of the author CBusiness
    Post a connection betwene Romney and the OIl that killed our coastlines
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      Originally Posted by CBusiness View Post

      Post a connection betwene Romney and the OIl that killed our coastlines
      Naughty, naughty, no politics allowed...
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      • Profile picture of the author romneyryan
        Thanks. I wasn't asking for legal advice. I own this domain and am trying to decide how I should proceed.
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        • Profile picture of the author Calamaroo
          Originally Posted by romneyryan View Post

          Thanks. I wasn't asking for legal advice. I own this domain and am trying to decide how I should proceed.
          lol So you're the one that beat me to it! I tried to buy it but it was too late. Good luck!
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  • write a bunch of BS that the idiots would believe?
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  • Profile picture of the author Cali16
    Originally Posted by romneyryan View Post

    If you had the domain name romneyryan.com what would you do with it? The domain is currently pointed to Mitt's actual campaign site
    So, you joined this forum and chose that username just to post this question? Ummmm, okay... :rolleyes:


    Btw, Alexa's post is spot on, as always!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
    1. You could try to sell it.
    2. Probably the best chance of not getting a letter from Mitt or Paul's campaign office/attorney would be to make it a glowing praise site or fan club site. Then you might be allowed to profit from using their names as public figures. Adsense, banner ads, merchandise, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author romneyryan
      Originally Posted by Jeff Burritt View Post

      1. You could try to sell it.
      2. Probably the best chance of not getting a letter from Mitt or Paul's campaign office/attorney would be to make it a glowing praise site or fan club site. Then you might be allowed to profit from using their names as public figures. Adsense, banner ads, merchandise, etc.
      Thanks, not a bad idea
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Alan
        This could be a real money maker. Generally speaking if you use it for advocacy one way or another they can't take it away from you.


        The guy that owned GWBush.com spun it into a career. There were lots of legal precedents set by that site that would apply to your site.



        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Exley


        I talked to him once back when he was running that site and it was a real treat.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hamish Jones
    How about just encouraging greater participation in the US political process?
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  • Profile picture of the author wlasikiewicz
    If that was my domain i would point it to a porn site for a laugh
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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by wlasikiewicz View Post

      If that was my domain i would point it to a porn site for a laugh
      There is nothing funny about porn sites.

      Don't you mean a joke site?

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      • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
        Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

        There is nothing funny about porn sites.
        Sure there is. Not all porn is serious business.

        I'm sure he also meant funny to him.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I'd sell it on Flippa. (With the "go ahead" with my lawyer first).
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  • Profile picture of the author JayVance
    Right now there is a lot of heat on Romney about him not willing to release his tax returns for the last decade. Put up some content talking about that and throw up some advertising.
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    • Profile picture of the author romneyryan
      Well, I cashparked it for about 12 hours and had over 1200 visitors and about $13 in revenue. I just followed JayVance's advice and made it a joke site about Mitt's tax returns. I applied to google adsense but it said it can take up to a week to process my application, so until then I might go back to cashparking and just take the $25-$30/day I was on pace for. This is all new to me and I have no idea what I'm doing. Also thank you Randall Magwood for telling me about flippa.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Alan
        I think you would probably be better off selling an eBook maybe something along the lines of Mitt Romney's Hidden Tax Returns. I have a friend that is a retired CPA, and he is one of the tightest folks you will ever meet. He is 66 years old and he coughed up $600 cash plus hotel and travel expense to attend a course on how Obama's birth certificate is fake. The political niche can be very lucrative if you can dish out the red meat that your viewing audience wants.

        Keep in mind you have a very limited shelf life with something like this. If Romney looses it is dead in November if he wins you have the next 4-8 years to make money with it, but your peak traffic is always going to be at election time. If you don't want to take the time to develop it I'd just sell it for some quick cash now as it is likely never going to be worth more than it is worth right now.

        Originally Posted by romneyryan View Post

        Well, I cashparked it for about 12 hours and had over 1200 visitors and about $13 in revenue. I just followed JayVance's advice and made it a joke site about Mitt's tax returns. I applied to google adsense but it said it can take up to a week to process my application, so until then I might go back to cashparking and just take the $25-$30/day I was on pace for. This is all new to me and I have no idea what I'm doing. Also thank you Randall Magwood for telling me about flippa.
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        • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
          Originally Posted by Mark Alan View Post

          I think you would probably be better off selling an eBook maybe something along the lines of Mitt Romney's Hidden Tax Returns. I have a friend that is a retired CPA, and he is one of the tightest folks you will ever meet. He is 66 years old and he coughed up $600 cash plus hotel and travel expense to attend a course on how Obama's birth certificate is fake. The political niche can be very lucrative if you can dish out the red meat that your viewing audience wants.

          Keep in mind you have a very limited shelf life with something like this. If Romney looses it is dead in November if he wins you have the next 4-8 years to make money with it, but your peak traffic is always going to be at election time. If you don't want to take the time to develop it I'd just sell it for some quick cash now as it is likely never going to be worth more than it is worth right now.
          If anyone is going into political or religion type niches it probably would be a very good idea to hide ones identity if possible. lolol

          I'm thinking of doing a humor type site and debating the politic thing, but I tell you Romney is definitely a riot. Much material there.
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  • Profile picture of the author HorseStall
    Why not contact the Romney campaign and see if they have an interest in purchasing it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by HorseStall View Post

      Why not contact the Romney campaign and see if they have an interest in purchasing it?
      Why not read the entire thread first?



      Seriously though, while it may sound good, this idea has already been shot down.

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    • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
      Originally Posted by HorseStall View Post

      Why not contact the Romney campaign and see if they have an interest in purchasing it?
      Thats funny, I was thinking why not contact Ron Paul and ask if he'd buy it? The guy already dominates youtube/google for terms you'd never expect and his marketing skills are rather admirable imo.

      Not trying to talk politics just trying to think outside the box. Romney is focused on big media networks, Ron Paul is the one focused on the internet (from what I've seen it would just be worth more to Ron Paul - he would have a ball tearing Romney a new asshole using Romneys own search terms lol - he's already done this on youtube just go look).
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      • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
        Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

        Thats funny, I was thinking why not contact Ron Paul and ask if he'd buy it? The guy already dominates youtube/google for terms you'd never expect and his marketing skills are rather admirable imo.

        Not trying to talk politics just trying to think outside the box. Romney is focused on big media networks, Ron Paul is the one focused on the internet (from what I've seen it would just be worth more to Ron Paul - he would have a ball tearing Romney a new asshole using Romneys own search terms lol - he's already done this on youtube just go look).
        RP isnt doing it. His fans are.
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        • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
          Originally Posted by GarrieWilson View Post

          RP isnt doing it. His fans are.
          Good to know I did not realize that.

          But now that I think about it that makes things so much more ironic. That means there are A LOT and I mean A TON of Ron Paul supporters online then... which makes me wonder why he seems to be doing so bad in the polls.

          I know we can't talk politics here but that really makes me consider how corrupt mass media actually is. I mean the guy is all over the internet but every major media source seems to ignore him like he doesn't exist.

          America really needs to get its crap together after this November election. I'll stop talking about politics now sry folks.

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  • Profile picture of the author FoieGras
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    I registered justshowyourtaxrecordsmitt.com and so far, knock on wood.
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  • Profile picture of the author Guru4u
    I really don't think anyone can take the domain from you. Your free speech rights are much stronger when you are dealing with politics.
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  • Profile picture of the author usainbolt
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    I wouldn't do anything too radical / crossing the line though. Free speech does have limits and you just wouldn't want legal trouble especially from someone with that kind of financial resources.
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  • Profile picture of the author rhondaklewis
    I don't know a romneyryan I know a romney brown and a ryan smith
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    Someone made national news:

    'romneyryan.com' mocks Mitt on tax returns - POLITICO.com

    But you only made $13? As you said, you don't know what you are doing. I have a feeling quite a few marketers are crying about this.

    How difficult is it to put up affiliate links for Amazon, CafePress, etc.? Or to do simple searches for Romney / political products with "affiliate" on the page (hint: so you can sign up for the affiliate program)?

    Considering people most likely to visit the domain are Romney supporters, why on earth would you put up mocking content and expect anyone to click some generic ad link?

    You need to offer the domain for sale ASAP. As others have said, you're blowing an opportunity. Possibly a once in a lifetime opportunity.

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    • Profile picture of the author Calamaroo
      Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

      But the site owner didn't register it privately. Now his profile in on whois . net and it has been posted by one of the people that left a comment in response to the article.

      p.s. The site owner could put in some affiliate links to P90X, which is unofficially endorsed by Ryan.

      Also, there ebooks on the amazon kindle under "Paul Ryan biography" and other key words.

      Links to amazon kindle ebooks by Ayn Rand might also be appropriate.

      Affiliating with the above three products could boost the site owner's earnings above $13. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author chrismatt
    What ever you do just be carfull, you are dealing with very powerfull people. When people like that want to make some thing or some one disapear it will and no one will ever know what happened !!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author rhondaklewis
    Couldn't the op put a notice on the site saying
    "This site for sell"
    The Romney campaign can afford to buy this site for at
    at lease 5000 bucks or more. I can't
    Imagine that they want this site to remain
    as it is. I hope the op keeps us posted.

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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    I see this a lot. Someone has a domain name with high, but short-lived value, and tries to sell it for a windfall (like the $150,000 demand for kerryedwards) - without making any effort to monetize a website on the domain. Since the price is unrealistic it doesn't sell. Two years later the domain is not re-registered with a net loss of domain registration fees.

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  • Profile picture of the author romneyryan
    I'm planning on auctioning it off. I admittedly don't know how to develop a site and would like to leave that to someone who does. But how much do you think a cafe press store could bring in?

    Thanks for all the advice. Even though I haven't made any money off of it It's been fun getting some media attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    According to a new story on Politico 70 Pres/VP domain name combinations were bought 3 years ago. Assuming all were kept that is an investment of $1750. Some were probably not re-registered this year as it became clear someone was not going to be the Prez or VP selection.

    Top offer has been $3k, which was not accepted.

    Someone was probably sweating over the media reports last month that General Petraeus was being considered for VP.

    Possible domains for 2016 are going fast ...

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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    How many uniques per day is the site getting?
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    • Profile picture of the author romneyryan
      My stats page says 28,606 for August 14th, but I anticipate it will be slightly higher for yesterday and today since I started getting some media attention
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      • Profile picture of the author Marakatapolis
        Originally Posted by romneyryan View Post

        My stats page says 28,606 for August 14th, but I anticipate it will be slightly higher for yesterday and today since I started getting some media attention
        I don't understand why you are ignoring everyone. I wish I had your site, I would have monetized the hell out of it.



        And P.S. to the guy who said porn isn't funny... you obviously haven't watched enough porn to make that assumption
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      • Profile picture of the author Blogs
        Originally Posted by romneyryan View Post

        My stats page says 28,606 for August 14th, but I anticipate it will be slightly higher for yesterday and today since I started getting some media attention
        Hopefully you won't start getting attention from those guys themselves . Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Russell Turner
      In exchange for an email address you could give away ebooks full of women!
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  • Profile picture of the author missnikki
    I bet that domain is worth a lot of money!
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    At least Flippa made money, though. So let's look on the bright side
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
    Originally Posted by romneyryan View Post

    If you had the domain name romneyryan.com what would you do with it? The domain is currently pointed to Mitt's actual campaign site
    The mistake is linking it. You've made an association to leverage from his name. In the eyes of the law you would be "passing off" if it was taken to that extreme.

    Additionally your sales method (assuming you go onto sell) shouldn't promote it as being association with this person neither in any way shape or form. This includes possible suggestions for use.

    Needless to say, you'd fare better editing out the domain in your OP and thread title too.
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  • What value are your creating with that domain other then trying to extort money from them. If you where the celebrity and someone did that to you how would you feel and what value did they create?
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  • Profile picture of the author ScottGordon
    You could point it to CafePress (sign up as an affiliate first.) Just point it to items which people are already selling for that campaign (t-shirts, mugs, etc.) Or design your own items there and set up your own "gift shop." (But maybe stay away from using any of their official campaign materials if you're worried about legal issues.)
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmarketer1
    Sell Tshirts etc via the site
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    • Profile picture of the author See
      Originally Posted by mrmarketer1 View Post

      Sell Tshirts etc via the site
      This is what I'd do. Get a CafePress or Zazzle store going and make serious $$$. Just be careful not to use any copyrighted imagery.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charanjit
    To be fair, you do not need to sell it, do a joint venture with some of the best IM's on here. I would make that site into a pro romley site and talk about how they can support him etc etc.
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    Whatever you do, do it now.
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    • Save it. The OP is long gone. The DNC bought the domain and it's now a gag site.

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      • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
        Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

        Save it. The OP is long gone. The DNC bought the domain and it's now a gag site.
        It seem like only one gag but it's quite a good one. They are putting it to good use. I bet before the next election, any pair that is thinking of teaming up will buy their domain.
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          i just went to the site and its damned funny!
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          I've spent the last 59 months building 412 MFA sites. Each site averages 8 cents per day...I said average, some make up to 17 cents per day, PASSIVE INCOME! This income allows me to live comfortably and buy ANY flavor Jolly Rancher or Skittles I desire. Don't give in to fear, it CAN be done!
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    If i have this type of domain name then i would be happiest person in this world now. Because i would get unbelievable traffic in each of every day especially traffic from USA.
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    the site was sold to the DNC

    Lesson One : think bigger
    Lesson Two : chicken little lives in the heart of many.
    Lesson Three : knowing why trademark law exists helps to understand what's OK, and not.
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