Help needed with my prevent hair loss squeeze page.

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Hey. I am very new to this IM stuff and require some help!

I have a prevent hair loss squeeze page and it has been set up. I would just like some advice on it, whether there is anything I could change, add or remove. I am looking to start building my list and am giving away a free hair loss e-book for subscribers. address is www(dot)hair-grow-back(dot)com

I am currently using listwire free auto-responder BUT am definitely ready to try aweber if I can get a plan together on how to drive quality traffic to my site and get subscribers. Once I build a list would I then email them a few times a week with maybe affiliate offers from clickbank?

I have heard of solo ads (I don't know too much about this), youtube, forums, facebook, etc.

Thank you in advance
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
    There's a lot of text on your squeeze page. I'd test a
    much shorter to-the-point version to see how it affects
    conversions.

    The graphical header dominates the first view rather than
    the headline.

    Plus your red to orange to red headlines and sub-headlines
    make those elements difficult to read.

    I would recommend that you use a professional third-party
    autoresponder service like AWeber from the get-go. You
    can get a $1 30-day trial. Then focus on building your list
    for the coming month so your next bill is easy to pay.

    Test having your opt-in form 'above the fold' so that it is
    in the first view that the visitors sees.

    Dedicated to mutual success,

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    • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
      Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

      There's a lot of text on your squeeze page. I'd test a
      much shorter to-the-point version to see how it affects
      conversions.

      The graphical header dominates the first view rather than
      the headline.

      Plus your red to orange to red headlines and sub-headlines
      make those elements difficult to read.

      I would recommend that you use a professional third-party
      autoresponder service like AWeber from the get-go. You
      can get a $1 30-day trial. Then focus on building your list
      for the coming month so your next bill is easy to pay.

      Test having your opt-in form 'above the fold' so that it is
      in the first view that the visitors sees.

      Dedicated to mutual success,

      Shaun
      Hey thanks for the response. Yeah, maybe I could shorten some of the text and stick to the main points. Also I will experiment further with the colours used.

      Once all of that is worked out how could I drive quality traffic to the squeeze page and hopefully start building my list.

      Also a question about aweber. Can I use one aweber subscription to add opt-in forms on more than one website? I am starting a recipe webpage and would love to use aweber on there too, to allow subscribers to recieve free recipes through email, plus maybe an affiliate product every once in a while.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

      I would recommend that you use a professional third-party autoresponder service like AWeber from the get-go.
      This.

      This is so important that it makes any other observations about your page, at the moment, kind of "academic", to be honest.
      Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

      Can I use one aweber subscription to add opt-in forms on more than one website?
      Yes.

      I would be looking at GetResponse and Aweber, if I were you, and staying well away from free autoresponders. Your list is one of your business's main assets.
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      • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
        Thanks Alexa. Implementing aweber is something I intend to do today! I have read enough posts about the necessity of a paid auto-responder if you are serious about IM. I just want to be sure that I can drive quality traffic to my squeeze page or else it would be a waste of money.

        So I guess the question is HOW would I drive quality traffic to my HAIR LOSS site? I am willing to go for paid traffic to gain quicker results. Solo ads? forums? THIS IS WHERE I AM CONFUSED! :confused:

        I was thinking of getting a male on fiverr create a video review my e-book and then I could post it on youtube and also maybe on my squeeze page?
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          swiftstep, you're putting the cart before the horse IMO. Driving 'quality traffic' to a page that doesn't work is both counterproductive and wasteful. Work on getting whatever visitors you already can get to become subscribers at some reasonable rate before you worry about driving traffic.

          It also sounds like your plan is only half-formed. You want to build a list with a freebie that promises to solve the problem for which you then want to recommend multiple solutions.

          Once I build a list would I then email them a few times a week with maybe affiliate offers from clickbank?
          This is the problem I have with the so-called "desperate buyer" niches. Yes, that person may have a burning problem, but what do you after you solve it?

          Think about it. If you send a stream of hair-loss related offers, you're admitting that your wonder solution is bogus. Anything else, and you're (in many list members' minds) spamming them just for the money.

          I'm not saying that you can't do well with this. I am saying that you may need to put more thought into it than simply finding a keyword that meets some arbitrary criteria and throwing up a squeeze page.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

          I was thinking of getting a male on fiverr create a video review my e-book and then I could post it on youtube and also maybe on my squeeze page?
          I hope you'll reconsider something about which it would be so clear to regulators, courts, enforcement people, service providers and even some customers that the intention is deceptive. That wouldn't be a review: it would be something pretending to be a review, i.e. deceiving people. Incentivized testimonials (bought on Fiverr or elsewhere) just aren't honest. Sorry to word it so strongly, but you did ask.
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          • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            I hope you'll reconsider something about which it would be so clear to regulators, courts, enforcement people, service providers and even some customers that the intention is deceptive. That wouldn't be a review: it would be something pretending to be a review, i.e. deceiving people. Incentivized testimonials (bought on Fiverr or elsewhere) just aren't honest. Sorry to word it so strongly, but you did ask.
            Also I didn't mean a REVIEW. More like describing my product and what the contents will show them. I do not want to deceive anyone
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  • Profile picture of the author Cali16
    Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

    Once I build a list would I then email them a few times a week with maybe affiliate offers from clickbank?
    I realize you're new here and you're asking really good questions (which is great!). But in response to your above statement:

    Would you want to be mailed a "few times a week" with endless affiliate offers?

    Most people quickly unsubscribe when they're bombarded with sales emails and treated like an ATM machine. Just something to consider...
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    • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
      Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

      I realize you're new here and you're asking really good questions (which is great!). But in response to your above statement:

      Would you want to be mailed a "few times a week" with endless affiliate offers?

      Most people quickly unsubscribe when they're bombarded with sales emails and treated like an ATM machine. Just something to consider...
      So once I get to the stage of having a list, how would I tackle sending follow up emails? I have ready any experts on here advising others to email a few times a week. But my question is WHAT WOULD I put in those emails?

      I wouldn't want to seem desperate by sending tons of affiliate offers, but I have learnt that having a good list is key to making money. So how could I use a list in MY niche/situation?
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  • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
    Hey. I am here to learn so am glad to receive such strong words. So no peoduct review from fiverr. I want to know how I could alter my plan to on my website to make the most of my list. As John rightly pointed out I am going about this all wrong. I really need to talk to someone face to face, 1 to 1 so I can get a plan together from STEP 1. As I am trying to rush into things without understanding fully the entire process.

    I hear that I could maybe get a mentor on here? Anyone want to teach me the basics? I would massively appreciate it.
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  • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
    Originally Posted by Thomas W View Post

    IMO you should focus on learning how to build traffic prior to jumping right into list building.

    This is how I start all my training program with. It takes patience but it's much easier to figure out conversions once you build a steady flow of traffic.

    You will find yourself spending lots of $$$ trying to build a list
    That's good info and all but I can't even think about building traffic until I have a solid plan in the first place and to be honest my plan at the moment is all over the place. I thought i had a plan but after some of the very honest replies I am left VERY CONFUSED and a little frustrated after reading TONS of posts on here, spending mannyy hours trying to pick up knowledge but it was all for nothing in the end as what i thought I knew was wrong

    I need some guidance on how to start and would really appreciate some help from someone who has 'MADE IT'.
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    • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
      Many wasted hours?? :rolleyes:

      I mean, you do realize you are embarking into internet marketing, a profession where people waste YEARS trying to figure things out, right?

      First off, don't bother sending PPC traffic to that page. It will never convert. Not in a million years.

      The offer is not good enough.

      From what I am seeing, you are offering 3 chapter of some book that promises to show people how to regrow hair. The following are the 3 chapter that are 'free'

      1. Talking about Male pattern baldness....{From the mind of the prospect}
      (Wow.... great! Like I need an explanation from a stupid e book about what going bald means)

      2. Hair Loss and it's impact..... {From the mind of the prospect} (Are you Fing kidding me? I need to hear from YOU why going bald sucks??)

      NOW... if the prospect hasn't already moved on by this point, your 3rd gem most definitely will...

      3. Anatomy of Hair......{Again, from the mind of the prospect} I dont need an anatomy lesson! I just want my gd hair back!!)

      Starting to make sense.....?

      Try looking a bit through the eyes of your prospect....

      You are trying to pitch information here that is readily available anywhere and in very low demand.

      Change it up completely. If your ebook has ONE really reallly good, trick on how to grow hair back quickly, turn THAT into a headline with benefit, and give away JUST THAT SECRET as your squeeze page offer.

      People don't want to study... they want an answer with immediate benefits.

      If you can provide them with a great secret that really works in the hair loss niche, You will have a MASSIVE list in no time and your squeeze page will convert like crazy with free OR paid traffic!

      Alex

      Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

      That's good info and all but I can't even think about building traffic until I have a solid plan in the first place and to be honest my plan at the moment is all over the place. I thought i had a plan but after some of the very honest replies I am left VERY CONFUSED and a little frustrated after reading TONS of posts on here, spending mannyy hours trying to pick up knowledge but it was all for nothing in the end as what i thought I knew was wrong

      I need some guidance on how to start and would really appreciate some help from someone who has 'MADE IT'.
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      • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
        Hey, yeah you're right. I should offer something from my e-book that is an actual METHOD for gaining hair back. thanks for the honest comments
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      • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
        Originally Posted by AlexCN View Post

        Many wasted hours?? :rolleyes:

        I mean, you do realize you are embarking into internet marketing, a profession where people waste YEARS trying to figure things out, right?

        First off, don't bother sending PPC traffic to that page. It will never convert. Not in a million years.

        The offer is not good enough.

        From what I am seeing, you are offering 3 chapter of some book that promises to show people how to regrow hair. The following are the 3 chapter that are 'free'

        1. Talking about Male pattern baldness....{From the mind of the prospect}
        (Wow.... great! Like I need an explanation from a stupid e book about what going bald means)

        2. Hair Loss and it's impact..... {From the mind of the prospect} (Are you Fing kidding me? I need to hear from YOU why going bald sucks??)

        NOW... if the prospect hasn't already moved on by this point, your 3rd gem most definitely will...

        3. Anatomy of Hair......{Again, from the mind of the prospect} I dont need an anatomy lesson! I just want my gd hair back!!)

        Starting to make sense.....?

        Try looking a bit through the eyes of your prospect....

        You are trying to pitch information here that is readily available anywhere and in very low demand.

        Change it up completely. If your ebook has ONE really reallly good, trick on how to grow hair back quickly, turn THAT into a headline with benefit, and give away JUST THAT SECRET as your squeeze page offer.

        People don't want to study... they want an answer with immediate benefits.

        If you can provide them with a great secret that really works in the hair loss niche, You will have a MASSIVE list in no time and your squeeze page will convert like crazy with free OR paid traffic!

        Alex
        I changed it a little, is that better?
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  • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
    Is anyone willing to help me? I know what it takes and am willing to give a alot to learn the correct way to set out a plan and execute it. It is a hard lesson I have learnt as I have put a bit of money into many 'things' without clearly thinking of my plan and I regret it now.

    But people make mistakes and that is how we learn. I just need a little guidance on where to begin.
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  • Profile picture of the author redeyegirl
    Hair Loss Niche is quite same as Weight loss niche where stiff competition, you have to add in pictures of before and after that means a lot to viewer or buyers visiting to your website as people go to website for a purpose and that is get quick results or solution from it.
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    • Profile picture of the author JEasy
      I think you should try and send some ppc traffic to the page the way it is right now and see what happens. The only exception is to switch to Aweber. There are plenty of ppc networks that don't cost as much as Adwords and you can test with a small amount of money like $50-$100.

      Getting advice is good, but jump in and see what works and what doesn't. Everyone will have something different to say and then you'll start to go on the info overload rollercoaster.
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      • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
        Originally Posted by JEasy View Post

        I think you should try and send some ppc traffic to the page the way it is right now and see what happens. The only exception is to switch to Aweber. There are plenty of ppc networks that don't cost as much as Adwords and you can test with a small amount of money like $50-$100.

        Getting advice is good, but jump in and see what works and what doesn't. Everyone will have something different to say and then you'll start to go on the info overload rollercoaster.
        You call $50-$100 a small amount? Heh

        I would be willing to give it a shot but based on some of the earlier replies I would be wasting my money. Im not sure if offering the whole of my e-book for free to subscribers is going to work out as then what products would I follow up with?
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  • Profile picture of the author Anomalous
    Swiftstep -

    Congratulations on getting a squeeze page up and running. This puts you leaps and bounds ahead of many, many internet marketers. Don't be discouraged by the expert advice and criticism here. If you are taking action, and learning first hand you are absolutely doing something right.

    Obviously there are several people participating in this thread that have knowledge and experience you will benefit from. Even still, experience is the best teacher. Take their suggestions, try out your own ideas, and just keep plugging away.

    There are some good suggestions here about using a paid autoresponder and what not to do with your e-mail list. For some good tips on what you should be doing with your list, I can recommend Presell Mastery - Pre-selling Strategies And Techniques by Paul Hancox. I am not affiliated. What you can get for free here is enough to get the wheels turning and give you some ideas about how to approach your list.

    Your burning question seems to be traffic. Start with some basic free strategies until you have enough hits to know something about your opt-in rate. You obviously don't want to pay for traffic until you have reason to believe that people will opt-in.

    Search the forum for free traffic strategies.

    Also, be sure that you are using Google Analytics or something to capture data about your visitors. This should be in place before you ever begin to drive traffic. Without this data you are flying blind, it is absolutely critical to your success.
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  • Profile picture of the author WarGasm
    You really haven't done much of attempt to play on the emotions of the reader. Explain how good they're going to feel looking in the mirror, or how much extra confidence they're now going to have with the ladies, or how they're going to look and feel younger.

    Create a story for the reader to give them something they can relate to and imagine in their heads.

    Most marketing gurus will tell you this is much more important than listing the features or talking about how great the product is.
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    • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
      Originally Posted by WarGasm View Post

      You really haven't done much of attempt to play on the emotions of the reader. Explain how good they're going to feel looking in the mirror, or how much extra confidence they're now going to have with the ladies, or how they're going to look and feel younger.

      Create a story for the reader to give them something they can relate to and imagine in their heads.

      Most marketing gurus will tell you this is much more important than listing the features or talking about how great the product is.
      thanks! Funny thing is I feel I do have all of those elements, or most of, in my squeeze page, saying confidence and giving them my story to relate to... is it completely wrongly written?
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  • Profile picture of the author fedor50
    Focus on converting the visitors you're already getting into subscribers. If you drive quality traffic right now, it'll essentially be a waste of your time and money. I also agree about getting a top level autoresponder such as aweber or getresponse
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  • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
    the help I have received has been absolutely FANTASTIC and I am very grateful to all of you. I now understand that I must design my squeeze page a little better, with more examples of what my product does and try to relate to the viewer on an 'emotionaly level'...heh.

    My final question which hasn't been answered is this:

    So once I get to the stage of having a list, how would I tackle sending follow up emails? I have ready any experts on here advising others to email a few times a week. But my question is WHAT WOULD I put in those emails?

    I wouldn't want to seem desperate by sending tons of affiliate offers, but I have learnt that having a good list is key to making money. So how could I use a list in MY niche/situation?

    this is the last part that I am confused with. I know it is nothing I should be worrying about RIGHT NOW but I would like to get a picture in my head so I can work on the idea and really develop it while my list grows.
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    • Profile picture of the author svsets10
      Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

      the help I have received has been absolutely FANTASTIC and I am very grateful to all of you. I now understand that I must design my squeeze page a little better, with more examples of what my product does and try to relate to the viewer on an 'emotionaly level'...heh.

      My final question which hasn't been answered is this:

      So once I get to the stage of having a list, how would I tackle sending follow up emails? I have ready any experts on here advising others to email a few times a week. But my question is WHAT WOULD I put in those emails?

      I wouldn't want to seem desperate by sending tons of affiliate offers, but I have learnt that having a good list is key to making money. So how could I use a list in MY niche/situation?

      this is the last part that I am confused with. I know it is nothing I should be worrying about RIGHT NOW but I would like to get a picture in my head so I can work on the idea and really develop it while my list grows.
      I could be wrong here, but just a thought. This niche is more of one and done type thing don't you think? I don't see a reason to build a list despite the fact that "the money is in the list." Maybe you could test building traffic and creating content that would drive visitors to a sales page first. Would you be leaving money on the table? Maybe, but you are also learning some skills.

      I know that the money is in the list so perhaps you could be a little more creative IF you decide to build a list at all. Find out information from your list. Could those same subscribers (bald males) be suffering from dating issues, women trouble, or self esteem problems? What is the real motivation for wanting their hair back? To reclaim youth? Perhaps they would be interested in other products in that vein. I know I am probably not the best person to be giving advice here but if you don't have another product to sell is there a need for a list at the moment?
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      • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
        Originally Posted by svsets10 View Post

        I could be wrong here, but just a thought. This niche is more of one and done type thing don't you think? I don't see a reason to build a list despite the fact that "the money is in the list." Maybe you could test building traffic and creating content that would drive visitors to a sales page first. Would you be leaving money on the table? Maybe, but you are also learning some skills.

        I know that the money is in the list so perhaps you could be a little more creative IF you decide to build a list at all. Find out information from your list. Could those same subscribers (bald males) be suffering from dating issues, women trouble, or self esteem problems? What is the real motivation for wanting their hair back? To reclaim youth? Perhaps they would be interested in other products in that vein. I know I am probably not the best person to be giving advice here but if you don't have another product to sell is there a need for a list at the moment?
        Hey. Some great points made there mate. I may just call it a day on this hair loss product and research a CURRENT niche. If I do pursue this niche you have given me some great ideas on future offers. But that is a LONG way down the road yet. I am still learning and slowly the puzzle pieces are coming together.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

        the help I have received has been absolutely FANTASTIC and I am very grateful to all of you. I now understand that I must design my squeeze page a little better, with more examples of what my product does and try to relate to the viewer on an 'emotionaly level'...heh.

        My final question which hasn't been answered is this:

        So once I get to the stage of having a list, how would I tackle sending follow up emails? I have ready any experts on here advising others to email a few times a week. But my question is WHAT WOULD I put in those emails?

        I wouldn't want to seem desperate by sending tons of affiliate offers, but I have learnt that having a good list is key to making money. So how could I use a list in MY niche/situation?

        this is the last part that I am confused with. I know it is nothing I should be worrying about RIGHT NOW but I would like to get a picture in my head so I can work on the idea and really develop it while my list grows.
        Part of this is something you should be considering right now. Part of the success you get with follow-up emails is building a 'know, like and trust' position (I hesitate to use the word 'relationship' because so many interpret that to mean they should be their subscribers' pal). You build 'know, like and trust' with continuity, with consistency.

        I've been on lists where the lead up to the subscription is down to earth, friendly, confident, and then as soon as you opt-in they turn into a boardwalk pitchman. The continuity is gone, along with any trust or credibility you've earned.

        If your ebook is good enough, you might want to give people a taste as the opt-in incentive with a mind to selling them the whole thing. Then your emails can lead them down the path, with messages about the causes of baldness, the psychological effects, any health effects, research into preventing baldness, etc. Build your authority. Then offer them the ebook as your simple, user-friendly solution.

        Once you've gone through your initial sales sequence, you can offer things like hair-care products, tools like hair dryers, hats, whatever that's related. You can break up the stream of offers with humor and human-interest emails, even plugs for non-profit events (like hair donations for cancer patients, etc.)

        "Prevent hair loss" as a market is going to take a lot of thought since it's relatively narrow, and the market for repeat buyers is likely almost non-existent once they solve their problem.
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        • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          Part of this is something you should be considering right now. Part of the success you get with follow-up emails is building a 'know, like and trust' position (I hesitate to use the word 'relationship' because so many interpret that to mean they should be their subscribers' pal). You build 'know, like and trust' with continuity, with consistency.

          I've been on lists where the lead up to the subscription is down to earth, friendly, confident, and then as soon as you opt-in they turn into a boardwalk pitchman. The continuity is gone, along with any trust or credibility you've earned.

          If your ebook is good enough, you might want to give people a taste as the opt-in incentive with a mind to selling them the whole thing. Then your emails can lead them down the path, with messages about the causes of baldness, the psychological effects, any health effects, research into preventing baldness, etc. Build your authority. Then offer them the ebook as your simple, user-friendly solution.

          Once you've gone through your initial sales sequence, you can offer things like hair-care products, tools like hair dryers, hats, whatever that's related. You can break up the stream of offers with humor and human-interest emails, even plugs for non-profit events (like hair donations for cancer patients, etc.)

          "Prevent hair loss" as a market is going to take a lot of thought since it's relatively narrow, and the market for repeat buyers is likely almost non-existent once they solve their problem.
          Thanks for an eye opening but of knowledge.

          Would you recommend I Use clickbank for my product and sign up for $50 to allow affiliates to sell it. Although I know there is no guarantee that any affiliate would choose it over the other prevent hair loss products.

          If not then would I maybe use just a PayPal payment link?
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Clickbank is one option.

            You might spend a little time researching here for various user experiences with both Clickbank and some of the alternatives.

            While you get your feet wet, a simple Paypal buy link isn't the worst way to go...
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  • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
    Bump.. Just need last bit of help on the question in the previous post. Thanks in advance
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  • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
    Any ideas how I could drive traffic from YouTube to my particular squeeze page?
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    The headline is good, i would dramatically condense it tho to make it a "true" squeeze page. One of your major competitors is "Bosley". But i'm confident that you can make sales within this niche... if the demand is there, and if you prove yourself in your email newsletter.

    By the way, get Aweber, and plan for your success. Don't be in doubt about your success. Get Aweber and start adding emails and more lists to your autoresponder account. So that when you do get sales, you can seamlessly put them into your backend marketing funnel.
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    • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      The headline is good, i would dramatically condense it tho to make it a "true" squeeze page. One of your major competitors is "Bosley". But i'm confident that you can make sales within this niche... if the demand is there, and if you prove yourself in your email newsletter.

      By the way, get Aweber, and plan for your success. Don't be in doubt about your success. Get Aweber and start adding emails and more lists to your autoresponder account. So that when you do get sales, you can seamlessly put them into your backend marketing funnel.

      Hey thanks man. I will not give up! Any ideas what kind of videos I could make to promote my product?

      I was thinking creating a vid explaining the possible benefits of my course ebook and promote a free mini course ebook which would include a small portion of my 43 page course ebook that I would later attempt to sell to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan J
    Don't chase the money. Chase value, Compile it and then Give it to your Market.

    Quality Content = Trust / Strong Relations = Easier to Sell To = $$$$

    Treat them how you would like to be treated with a problem. If you do this then you will ace it, but yeah just research products that WILL benefit them via Clickbank, JVZoo etc, then promote them after a couple of good quality emails. As for a autoresponder I would go with either Aweber or GetResponse. I use GR personally.

    Good Luck mate!
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  • Profile picture of the author apexlm
    I am glad to see you using this forum for what it is intended for. Lots of great questions. It shows you are definitely looking to do things right. Here are a few tips I could give.

    1. You asked about using YouTube. One way is above all of the text, or maybe even in place of some of it, you could place a video telling people what they are getting if they opt in to your list. Some people would rather watch and listen then read. That also gives you a chance to push your enthusiasm and touch on their emotions with your own story. I wouldn't make the video overly long just hit the highlights and make it sound like a great deal. You could post that video on YouTube with some keywords in the title and description and also a link back to the squeeze page for some traffic both from YouTube and possibly to the video in the searches.

    2. Instead of offering the entire ebook on opt-in, maybe give them the first chapter or a teaser with some good starting points. Then you can follow up in the email sequence with more Teaser tips (more free content) with a subtle PS at the end offering the full ebook for $xxx. That solves the follow up issue. You can also offer some free tips on occasion without adding links to further increase your value and not come off as just another salesman. A tip in the follow up is to keep it real. Don't sound generic. Let your personality come through in every email so they know your a real person. Share stories in your life that pertain to the product as well as bits from today. Interacting like that will set you apart form most of the marketers out there today.

    3. Definitely use Aweber over any free responders. Aweber is amazing and you don't want to blow it with your list.

    4. To get further in to the video aspect you could make other videos with screen shots of before and after images, maybe some REAL testimonials of REAL people (or even yourself), fill in the gaps with some of the benefits of your system versus some others, etc. Get creative and make sure you utilize the proper keywords in the title and description when posting on YouTube.

    Other then that just keep asking questions and just jump in and try some things out. Testing takes time, but seeing what works and doesn't is invaluable.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
      Originally Posted by apexlm View Post

      I am glad to see you using this forum for what it is intended for. Lots of great questions. It shows you are definitely looking to do things right. Here are a few tips I could give.

      1. You asked about using YouTube. One way is above all of the text, or maybe even in place of some of it, you could place a video telling people what they are getting if they opt in to your list. Some people would rather watch and listen then read. That also gives you a chance to push your enthusiasm and touch on their emotions with your own story. I wouldn't make the video overly long just hit the highlights and make it sound like a great deal. You could post that video on YouTube with some keywords in the title and description and also a link back to the squeeze page for some traffic both from YouTube and possibly to the video in the searches.

      2. Instead of offering the entire ebook on opt-in, maybe give them the first chapter or a teaser with some good starting points. Then you can follow up in the email sequence with more Teaser tips (more free content) with a subtle PS at the end offering the full ebook for . That solves the follow up issue. You can also offer some free tips on occasion without adding links to further increase your value and not come off as just another salesman. A tip in the follow up is to keep it real. Don't sound generic. Let your personality come through in every email so they know your a real person. Share stories in your life that pertain to the product as well as bits from today. Interacting like that will set you apart form most of the marketers out there today.

      3. Definitely use Aweber over any free responders. Aweber is amazing and you don't want to blow it with your list.

      4. To get further in to the video aspect you could make other videos with screen shots of before and after images, maybe some REAL testimonials of REAL people (or even yourself), fill in the gaps with some of the benefits of your system versus some others, etc. Get creative and make sure you utilize the proper keywords in the title and description when posting on YouTube.

      Other then that just keep asking questions and just jump in and try some things out. Testing takes time, but seeing what works and doesn't is invaluable.

      Good luck!
      Thank you so much for you valuable response.

      I am really gobsmacked at how many QUALITY responses I have received. I have a plan in my head and am implementing it now. I was actually just looking through my ebook to see what content I could give away as the 'free gift'. Possibly the first few chapters on diagnosing the type of hair loss you have.

      Also I'm glad on numerous occasions my questions have been called 'good', most the time I'm fairly embarrassed to ask so many as I'm not exactly young (27 on friday!).
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      • Profile picture of the author apexlm
        Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

        Thank you so much for you valuable response.

        I am really gobsmacked at how many QUALITY responses I have received. I have a plan in my head and am implementing it now. I was actually just looking through my ebook to see what content I could give away as the 'free gift'. Possibly the first few chapters on diagnosing the type of hair loss you have.

        Also I'm glad on numerous occasions my questions have been called 'good', most the time I'm fairly embarrassed to ask so many as I'm not exactly young (27 on friday!).
        Just like teachers in school used to say, the only stupid question is the one not asked! That is what this forum was set up for, so ask away. Just don't ask and ask and ask without taking action. It can get very easy to search for information and put a plan together, and then search for more information and put another plan together, and so on. What I mean is get the info you need and take action. It is good to learn, but learning to much can get in the way of getting to success. It sounds like you are on the right track though. Keep working the plan and you will get it!
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        • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
          Originally Posted by apexlm View Post

          Just like teachers in school used to say, the only stupid question is the one not asked! That is what this forum was set up for, so ask away. Just don't ask and ask and ask without taking action. It can get very easy to search for information and put a plan together, and then search for more information and put another plan together, and so on. What I mean is get the info you need and take action. It is good to learn, but learning to much can get in the way of getting to success. It sounds like you are on the right track though. Keep working the plan and you will get it!
          Funny you should say that as I am a teacher I teach Games Development. Even have a course up on Udemy and have made a VERY SMALL amount from that, maybe because there is a ton on content I still need to add

          for now I am only focussing on this, then will see how it goes, and then decide where to spend my time...
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  • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
    p.s. I have a bit of a problem. I am looking to cut down my squeeze page by around half the text but am finding it difficult to figure out what I should get rid of. Anyone ever get that? when you spend so long writing so much and you overshoot your target amount then struggle to cut it down. well I'm seriously in that boat right now! :|
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  • Profile picture of the author Vasilev
    Some of the guys up there said it about the capture page and the autoresponder, so let me just correct something:

    JohnMcCabe said up there:
    "Anything else, and you're (in many list members' minds) spamming them just for the money."- end of quote

    You are building a list for the money, so nevermind what some of your leads might think about you. Let them unsubscribe if they don't buy.

    Monetize the s..t out of that list. Just don't offer them junk. Offer them something you know it's good, something you have already used and are sure it's working, and preferably something relevant to your primary offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
      Originally Posted by Vasilev View Post

      Some of the guys up there said it about the capture page and the autoresponder, so let me just correct something:

      JohnMcCabe said up there:
      "Anything else, and you're (in many list members' minds) spamming them just for the money."- end of quote

      You are building a list for the money, so nevermind what some of your leads might think about you. Let them unsubscribe if they don't buy.

      Monetize the s..t out of that list. Just don't offer them junk. Offer them something you know it's good, something you have already used and are sure it's working, and preferably something relevant to your primary offer.
      Thanks man, I want to get the balance right. This is my first major venture into IM and am struggling to get traffic to my website. I am currently going through many forums and trying to post, but many don't allow sigs so cannot exactly link back to my page as it will make me look spammy. So just trying to figure out methods to get more traffic to my prevent hair loss niche website. Any other tips on doing so?
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      • Profile picture of the author Vasilev
        Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

        Thanks man, I want to get the balance right. This is my first major venture into IM and am struggling to get traffic to my website. I am currently going through many forums and trying to post, but many don't allow sigs so cannot exactly link back to my page as it will make me look spammy. So just trying to figure out methods to get more traffic to my prevent hair loss niche website. Any other tips on doing so?
        Bro, I feel you. Everybody was once there

        Plenty of ways to get traffic, but it depends on how much money you have, what skills you have, what you like to do ( that's the most important ), and what results you want...

        Cause I'll tell you right the way. Free traffic ( forums, classifieds, traffic-exchanges, list builders... not such a good idea.

        SEO- neither. This has become so expensive these days, you need to be a master- guru to compete with the big guys and and it's simply a pain in the ass.

        You wanna do blogging, and syndicating after. It's not so easy either, but you gotta study, you know? no other way.

        You wanna make videos, upload them on the video sites, get traffic geyser to spread them around and so on and so on . Basically tool up- the more- the better.

        But again. Calculate what you've got to invest.

        PS. You can put your site in the sig in here, but not anything affiliate.
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  • Profile picture of the author ClaireDavids
    Hi,
    You can drive traffic to your well-optimized squeeze / webpages through article marketing, social media marketing, social bookmarking, blog commenting, and forum marketing.

    Of course, there are hundreds more ways to drive traffic to your sites, including Pay Per Click, but these few I've listed are what I would recommend to someone who's just starting out.

    They are quick to implement once you learn the basics, relatively cheap, and also risk-free.

    I can see from the other posts here that you've gotten a ton of really good advice, which is great. One thing you should be careful of, that happens quite often in the world of IM is "Information Overload". No amount of knowledge or information will be useful to your internet business if you don't practice it.

    So I would suggest that you try to understand the basics of operating your IM business at the level that it's at now, including stuff like list building, on-page SEO, driving traffic, etc. Work on that basic knowledge in your business and then learn more as you go along.

    You're bound to learn more from the mistakes and tweaks that you personally encounter. Wishing you success :-)

    Hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Vasilev
    And this is gonna be harsh... but the pure truth....

    but if you don't have money for tools- you might just wanna find something else to do.

    I always talk straight to the point.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsced
    Hair loss is NOT the make money online niche. My point: You obviously are not going to help anyone gain their hair back by sending them useless clickbank eBooks every week. Your headline is telling people how to reverse hair-loss, and yet your marketing strategy is to send them eBook after eBook from clickbank. Why would I stay on your list? Why haven't you fulfilled your promise you stated when I signed up? This strategy has a ceiling, and it's very low, low enough that I'm hitting my bald head off the stippling.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Vasilev View Post

      Some of the guys up there said it about the capture page and the autoresponder, so let me just correct something:

      JohnMcCabe said up there:
      "Anything else, and you're (in many list members' minds) spamming them just for the money."- end of quote

      You are building a list for the money, so nevermind what some of your leads might think about you. Let them unsubscribe if they don't buy.

      Monetize the s..t out of that list. Just don't offer them junk. Offer them something you know it's good, something you have already used and are sure it's working, and preferably something relevant to your primary offer.
      Vladi, let's put some context with that single short sentence you pulled from my post...

      This is the problem I have with the so-called "desperate buyer" niches. Yes, that person may have a burning problem, but what do you after you solve it?

      Think about it. If you send a stream of hair-loss related offers, you're admitting that your wonder solution is bogus. Anything else, and you're (in many list members' minds) spamming them just for the money.
      The OP is trying to either sell an ebook on stopping hair loss or use it to build a list of people he can send a stream of affiliate pitches.

      What some of the members think about such a stream (i.e., "monetizing the (crap) out of it" isn't as important as how they react to it. Some will unsubscribe, while many more will simply filter out or ignore anything sent to that list.

      Send them a stream of Clickbank ebook offers, and you tell them that there's no urgency to buy this offer because there will be another in a few days.

      And if you build the list based on a search for "stop hair loss" and start sending pitches for 'male enhancement' or 'pickup artist' or [fill in the blank], you may not hit the technical definition of spam, but you'll become a spammer in their minds. And we all have a feel for the conversion (aka 'monetization') rates for spam...
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      • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
        Thanks so much for your responses. Now I want TOTAL honesty.. Would it be best for me to just throw this site in the bin and start a fresh. I now feel I have the knowledge to better PLAN for an IM site and a more profitable niche, maybe dating, weight loss, or making money (although not an expert myself so probably not just yet)...

        I have spent some money on this site but should I cut my losses?

        My gut says I should!

        Seriously is it realistic that I can make money from this niche? If not I will probably pick something else. And I know some of you might say I should stick it through now that i've started it but I don't want to waste weeks and weeks/months on a dying niche.

        Again thanks for your advice.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

          Thanks so much for your responses. Now I want TOTAL honesty.. Would it be best for me to just throw this site in the bin and start a fresh. I now feel I have the knowledge to better PLAN for an IM site and a more profitable niche, maybe dating, weight loss, or making money (although not an expert myself so probably not just yet)...

          I have spent some money on this site but should I cut my losses?

          My gut says I should!

          Seriously is it realistic that I can make money from this niche? If not I will probably pick something else. And I know some of you might say I should stick it through now that i've started it but I don't want to waste weeks and weeks/months on a dying niche.

          Again thanks for your advice.
          As your main moneymaker, yes, I would pull away given what you posted here. But don't just throw it away. Yet.

          Such a product might fill a spot in a funnel based around something more general, like some of the self-help niches.

          Another option is to sell the manuscript outright and try to recoup some or all of your investment.
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          • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
            Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

            As your main moneymaker, yes, I would pull away given what you posted here. But don't just throw it away. Yet.

            Such a product might fill a spot in a funnel based around something more general, like some of the self-help niches.

            Another option is to sell the manuscript outright and try to recoup some or all of your investment.
            Agreed. But I don't know what you mean by your second point. A funnel based around something general like the self help niches? What would I have to do to for this?

            Also how would I go about selling my manuscript outright?

            Thanks again.
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        • Profile picture of the author Vasilev
          Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

          Thanks so much for your responses. Now I want TOTAL honesty.. Would it be best for me to just throw this site in the bin and start a fresh. I now feel I have the knowledge to better PLAN for an IM site and a more profitable niche, maybe dating, weight loss, or making money (although not an expert myself so probably not just yet)...

          I have spent some money on this site but should I cut my losses?

          My gut says I should!

          Seriously is it realistic that I can make money from this niche? If not I will probably pick something else. And I know some of you might say I should stick it through now that i've started it but I don't want to waste weeks and weeks/months on a dying niche.

          Again thanks for your advice.
          My friend,
          what will make you money is you knowing how to market.

          Don't rush into choosing niches, making sites etc.
          Learn how to market first, and understand how traffic works.
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      • Profile picture of the author Vasilev
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Vladi, let's put some context with that single short sentence you pulled from my post...



        The OP is trying to either sell an ebook on stopping hair loss or use it to build a list of people he can send a stream of affiliate pitches.

        What some of the members think about such a stream (i.e., "monetizing the (crap) out of it" isn't as important as how they react to it. Some will unsubscribe, while many more will simply filter out or ignore anything sent to that list.

        Send them a stream of Clickbank ebook offers, and you tell them that there's no urgency to buy this offer because there will be another in a few days.

        And if you build the list based on a search for "stop hair loss" and start sending pitches for 'male enhancement' or 'pickup artist' or [fill in the blank], you may not hit the technical definition of spam, but you'll become a spammer in their minds. And we all have a feel for the conversion (aka 'monetization') rates for spam...
        First, thanks for communicating

        Monetizing depends on how they react to it. There is no "more important" here, one thing is important- to make money.

        Some will unsubscribe, some will ignore anything, and most will buy- If you do your marketing right.


        I never said "a stream of Clickbank ebook offers", or to send different offers every few days, or sending pitches for 'male enhancement' or 'pickup artist'.

        Don't really know where you got that from.

        It's important to build a relationship with your list, But you are building it to monetize.

        And monetizing your list depends on your e-mail marketing skills.
        Knowing how often and what other offers to send your list is a part of e-mail marketing.

        I can go on and explain it all more in depth, but this is information I charge for, so I'm just gonna end here.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

          Agreed. But I don't know what you mean by your second point. A funnel based around something general like the self help niches? What would I have to do to for this?
          Okay, how about this. Instead of "prevent hair loss", you widen the lens a bit to something like "improve self image." This opens you up to offering many related products/services. Off the top of my head, I could find angles to offer a 'regrow hair' product, a 'whiten teeth' product, an ebook on choosing flattering styles to wear, and more. And that's just dealing with appearance. There's also the mental game, like building confidence, creating a vision, creative visualization, and so on.

          What would you have to do? Create your own mental image of the ideal customer. Maybe it's a thirty-something male who just went through a bad divorce and is facing the dating world again. He's feeling beat down, and wants to feel good again. So you create a collection of products related to doing exactly that. Some might be your own, others offered as an affiliate.

          As you communicate with your list, you have a set of related offers themed around a central idea and targeted to a specific market niche rather than a keyword you found.

          Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

          Also how would I go about selling my manuscript outright?

          Thanks again.
          You could try a classified ad here on WF. Lots of niche marketers here looking for products.

          Originally Posted by Vasilev View Post

          First, thanks for communicating

          Monetizing depends on how they react to it. There is no "more important" here, one thing is important- to make money.

          Some will unsubscribe, some will ignore anything, and most will buy- If you do your marketing right.
          We're not that far apart. I was talking about "how they react to it."

          Originally Posted by Vasilev View Post

          I never said "a stream of Clickbank ebook offers", or to send different offers every few days, or sending pitches for 'male enhancement' or 'pickup artist'.

          Don't really know where you got that from.
          No, you never said those things specifically. Go back and read the original post. The OP's original plan was to build a list and send affiliate offers every few days. As for the subjects I named, I pulled them from thin air as examples of offers not even closely related to "prevent hair loss", the original keyword phrase.

          Originally Posted by Vasilev View Post

          It's important to build a relationship with your list, But you are building it to monetize.

          And monetizing your list depends on your e-mail marketing skills.
          Knowing how often and what other offers to send your list is a part of e-mail marketing.
          We're on the same page here.

          Originally Posted by Vasilev View Post

          I can go on and explain it all more in depth, but this is information I charge for, so I'm just gonna end here.
          No worries. I think I'll survive somehow...
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  • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
    I would LOVE to fully understand and 'learn how traffic works'. I have used paid traffic through Adwords before and understand how that works. And understand that getting free traffic to your site takes a lot of work. Is there anything else? Any resource I could read to understand. I've gone through numerous threads on gaining traffic so have learnt a great deal.

    So what should my next steps be?
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    • Profile picture of the author Vasilev
      Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

      I would LOVE to fully understand and 'learn how traffic works'. I have used paid traffic through Adwords before and understand how that works. And understand that getting free traffic to your site takes a lot of work. Is there anything else? Any resource I could read to understand. I've gone through numerous threads on gaining traffic so have learnt a great deal.

      So what should my next steps be?
      -Read often- I would recommend to start with " The Tipping Point" by Malcolm Gladwell- an awesome book- costs around 10 bucks.
      "Breakthrough Advertising" by Eugene Shwartz - A bit more advanced stuff but a must. Costs around 400 bucks. And many many more.

      -Study successful marketers- optin their lists, study their e-mails, watch how they do things etc.

      -Invest in books, courses & coaching.

      -There's also plenty of information in this forum, you just gotta be very selective in here.
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  • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
    That plan sounds good but that would mean getting a new domain name as my current one is too specific. Thanks again for the advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedRocketPills
    Attractive squeeze page! I def recommend aweber. If you want a great free submit form to collect a list you can try foxy forms. We use them a lot its a simple integration.
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  • Profile picture of the author murtuza
    i don't know why your site is not loading up at my end. When it gets live PM me and I will review it for you...
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    • Profile picture of the author anime145
      Firstly congrats to run a new Hair Loss treatment website. It seems you launch a new E-book of Hair Loss.From where i can get your this book. Many of my friends suffer from the Hair Loss problem. I want to give reference of your book to them also. I hope your business run well and you will get much traffic with it. Aweber is the best E-mailing platform which almost recommend by very good or big brands companies. Aweber is a product of Twitter.So you can now understand that how results it gives. Affiliates marketing or Affiliates Ads are the great source of converisonal traffic. Only those people click on your Ads who are interested. Youtube, Forums and Facebook Ads are the great source of traffic. Facebook Ads mainly work for local traffic. Youtube, forums Ads work widely.
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    Took you 2 years to cook up that reply =)
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