The State of the Article spinning/marketing

by mz667
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Hello,

I'm quite new of internet marketing and little confused about this article marketing. I tried to read lot's of topics in here warrior forum...but... still some confusion.

Some of here says that article spinning is dead and no stand for submitting articles on Ezinearticles or other article directories. Wich i totally understand that poorly spinned article are dead.

And then there is option to rewrite articles and submitting those to directories and web 2.0 sites.

And then there is that article marketing people who's put the same article on article directories or web 2.0 sites what is all ready submitted to websites. Doesn't there come to duplicate content penalty?

That last option of course sounds good, if it works because i'm lazy and dont want to spend time to spinning or rewriting articles...

Anyway how you do it?
#article #spinning or marketing #state
  • Profile picture of the author eugenedm
    Article spinning isn't dead and if you know how to come up with quality content and know how to spin them which doesn't compromise the quality of your articles then go ahead and submit them to article directories. This will help you reach out to more people. After all, IM is also about being visible to your online audience.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by mz667 View Post

      Some of here says that article spinning is dead
      Everyone who actually makes a living from article marketing (rather than from supplying spinning software or services) will tell you the same thing about that. For people open-minded enough to read them, these six items explain much more, at greater length and in greater detail.
      • this post explains the benefits of spinning
      • the first half (or so) of this thread contains a good discussion of what you can gain from spinning articles
      • the advice on this subject given by so many people throughout most of this thread has been really helpful to many people here
      • on the meaning and significance of "duplicate content", in this context, this little post from expert article marketer Anne Pottinger includes direct quotations from Google's WebMaster Central Blog on the subject (not easy to find a more authoritative source than that!)
      • this little article is also a very useful and accurate explanation of the subject
      • this post, and its links, explain in detail the closely related subject of how article directories really work and why they exist
      Originally Posted by mz667 View Post

      and no stand for submitting articles on Ezinearticles or other article directories.
      I suspect you're confusing "article marketing" and "article directory marketing", here. This post (and the links in it) explains the difference: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

      Originally Posted by mz667 View Post

      And then there is option to rewrite articles and submitting those to directories
      There's no point in re-writing them, to submit them to directories. And doing so would actually be a big mistake. Contrary to what some people imagine, article directories don't require previously unpublished content. It's explained in some detail in this thread from yesterday/today: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

      Originally Posted by mz667 View Post

      Doesn't there come to duplicate content penalty?
      "Duplicate content" is multiple copies of the same content within one website. It's explained clearly in this article (recommended!): Article Marketers – Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All - Internet Marketing and Publishing Blog

      Originally Posted by mz667 View Post

      Anyway how you do it?
      1. Write articles that other people want to publish and share with their already targeted traffic.

      2. Always publish them and have them indexed on your own site first - don't give an article directory (or anyone else) the initial indexation-rights to content not previously published.

      3. Get your articles re-published as widely as possible in places that already have the traffic you want (an article directory is a stepping-stone toward doing this, and has no other purpose at all, so don't try to use it/them for mass backlinks, nor for customer traffic, because those are both potentially expensive mistakes that can actually damage your business). Article marketing isn't about putting articles only on your site and then finding people to come along and read them: it's about taking your articles to where the people you want to attract are already looking. It isn't about how many articles you have: it's about who reads them.

      4. Never spin anything.

      5. Understand really clearly how article directories work and why it would be such a big mistake to try to get customer traffic from them.

      And welcome to the forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author WiltonChu
    You can outsource. Ask somebody to rewrite your articles for you there are lots of good ones out there try odesk or freelancer. Just make sure you get the right people. They come cheap and also you might wanna try iWriter they can write articles for you and give you a spun version of it. Although you have to choose the best writer because not all writers on iWriter writes well.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    Don't forget that article marketing also included guest blogging.
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    • Profile picture of the author ScottDudley
      While article spinning might actually work, you have to ask yourself if you feel good about flooding the internet with different variations of sub standard (or slightly good at best) information. 99% of time spun articles are pure junk that no human is interested in reading.

      You may be able to gain some backlinks from spinning, but you are hardly going to build an online following from it. OK some people claim to make a living from articles that are spun but I don't see any of them giving away their sexy secrets (if in fact they are telling the truth).

      To sum it up my advice is to build a niche blog that has a chance of building a following and to provide these people with outstanding content (spun content is very rarely outstanding).

      Build up a loyal following and start selling quality products that are going to be useful to these people. Write for humans, not search engines. Stand out from the competition and be unique. Create something of value that people appreciate.

      If you are lazy like you say then this is probably not going to work for you, but at least you can sleep at night knowing that Google will not black list you for doing dodgy stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author freelancewriting
        Originally Posted by ScottDudley View Post

        While article spinning might actually work, you have to ask yourself if you feel good about flooding the internet with different variations of sub standard (or slightly good at best) information. 99% of time spun articles are pure junk that no human is interested in reading.

        You may be able to gain some backlinks from spinning, but you are hardly going to build an online following from it. OK some people claim to make a living from articles that are spun but I don't see any of them giving away their sexy secrets (if in fact they are telling the truth).

        To sum it up my advice is to build a niche blog that has a chance of building a following and to provide these people with outstanding content (spun content is very rarely outstanding).

        Build up a loyal following and start selling quality products that are going to be useful to these people. Write for humans, not search engines. Stand out from the competition and be unique. Create something of value that people appreciate.

        If you are lazy like you say then this is probably not going to work for you, but at least you can sleep at night knowing that Google will not black list you for doing dodgy stuff.
        To elaborate, how important is your repututation? Do you want to become known for posting crappy content or do you want to give value to your customers?

        Something to think about...
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  • Profile picture of the author contentwriting360
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    Hi mz667,

    There are lots of Warriors whom I consider as 'authorities' in terms of providing you accurate answers that will clear your confusion. One of them is Alexa.

    If there's one thing that I can recommend, being a content writing service provider, is that if you choose to re-write an existing content, don't re-write on a sentence level. Keep the core of the story or the lessons that you're trying to put across but mention different examples this time. You don't want to be told of the same story 10 times, do you? Of course, you don't or you'll tell the 9th or 10th person to shut up.

    This is exactly what we've been educating our clients, particularly those who order re-writes. You know, looking at it, it'll be much easier for us to re-write on a sentence level but that's not what you and your readers deserve. Everyone deserves a crisp and fresh content.
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    • Profile picture of the author mz667
      Thanks you all for the answers. I try to read all threads that Alexa mentioned.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Article spinning has nothing whatsoever to do with real article marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      First of all, Welcome to the forum, mz667.

      Secondly, I'd like to answer your questions to help you, however, my words would be in shadow following Alexa's excellent post. She covered everything expertly, thoroughly and so graciously, as is her manner.

      Read what she has provided you and you should be well on your way.

      Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author hebsgaard
    Not a big fan of article spinning. I have tried several spinners and I have to say none reach the standard I need of an article I'm going to publish.

    Alexa explains the duplicate content myth much better than I can so I won't get into that. I will say it's not something that's bothering me that much.
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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    Good articles should go on your website, not for backlinks. Content is KING, and always will be. stay away from article spinning. Elbow grease will always work the best, and you can stand back and be proud of it. Like the mona lisa
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Dont do article spinning. Laughable results, that will cause your readers to exit your website after reading the first paragraph. Stick with creating your own content... even if it's just creating 1 article per day.
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    • Profile picture of the author mz667
      Thanks all! There really is help full peoples around here! Next i concentrate on producing HQ content.
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  • Profile picture of the author fearlesspioneer
    I don't think article spinning is dead. 30% spun articles are good for building backlinks. But you should also establish authority in your niche, so some high quality articles are also needed. And quality articles usually attract more traffic and have the chance to go viral.
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    • Profile picture of the author ChrisMoon
      Agree I don't think article spinning is dead either but it needs to checked manually.

      Originally Posted by fearlesspioneer View Post

      I don't think article spinning is dead. 30% spun articles are good for building backlinks. But you should also establish authority in your niche, so some high quality articles are also needed. And quality articles usually attract more traffic and have the chance to go viral.
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