Beginner need some help

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Hi every1
I recently got laid off from my job and life has changed since. It is not easy out there. So I started to sell some old stuff on Craigslist just to get rid of some stuff. I just found out about Affiliate Marketing a few weeks ago. I started to watch Youtube videos and found this forum. I found that we can make money by promoting others' products on Clickbank and Commission Junction etc. Almost all the Youtube videos trying to sell you their own AM methods on how to make money. I also heard that all these methods changed almost month by month. We have to keep up with the newest methods. I'm eager to take a class but the BIG question is whose class is the best or relatively the best or at least NOT scam. One of my friends took Ethan Tony Chien's class for $2000 but he said its too basic and he won't tell you any secrets.

I found John's video on Youtube. He is relatively more willing to tell you a lot more details how this whole thing operate. He got 11 videos so I still need to watch them all. His video John's Clickbank System - Part 4 of 11

Another thing is about the website. Where to find a great website builder for free. I mean seriously there is nothing FREE man. The domain is $7.99 a year. Every time you want to promote a product, you need to buy a domain. For your website, you need a domain. I don't even know if I need to pay for hosting contents. When I sell my old stuff, I use photobucket for hosting photos. At least I know this one is really FREE.

The bottom line is do I really need to take a crash course? My friend told me that most of the info in Ethan's class can be found online for FREE. So I'm very skeptical about whose class I should take??

I know I got lots of questions. Please give a newbie some guidance. Thank you every1!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gambino
    My first advise would be: find a job to pay the bills and get by. Do not expect to make any measurable/dependable amount of money online anytime soon.

    If you are getting into affiliate marketing, you will need at minimum: domain (less than $10), hosting (roughly $7 per month), clickbank, CPA, CommisionJunkie, etc account (free).

    You can either use a free Wordpress theme or buy one (approx $17), to set up a blog on. I believe you're capable of adding quality content to the site so that's free. You will have to drive traffic to the site, and if you just heard about IM about a week ago, I'm going o assume you're not going to e able to perform your own website optimization and will have to outsource it (you're biggest expense).

    You're site can be vague on a topic or specifically for one product. If its the former, you can sell/advertise different but similar products that fill that niche. For example, if your site is howtotrainyourdog.com, you can fill the site with info relevant to training a dog in a multitude of ways like stop barking, sit, shake, etc. If you site is howtogtyourdogtosit.com, then you're going to have a smaller more specific site with relevant info but design to get the user to buy a product to get their dog to sit.

    You're going to want to build a list either way. Youll need an aweber or similar account ($15). The basic idea is to give something away for free to users who provide their email address. You then build a relationship by giving them quality content and then sell to them later.

    Learning IM isn't something that's done overnight. It will take time to build a solid foundation. Get a job to get by and build IM on your off time.

    This is just a start. Use the search function and you'll find loads of info. Keep your head up and know that IM isn't going to produce results overnight.
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  • Profile picture of the author Woodward82
    Most things in the courses people teach are online. Some people will tell you to put your wallet away and read the forums. Other people will tell you get a mentor.

    So can you learn something stick to it and fail without giving up?

    If the answer is yes then try teaching yourself. You will find that one of the biggest downfalls is getting lost in information and not sticking to one course of action.

    If you feel like you would better benefit from someone showing you the ropes and helping you along the way, then get a mentor.

    Dot be afraid to take due diligence when finding a mentor. Contact them ask questions. Call them. Or whatever until you think you found the right person for you.

    Oh yeah there are no secret ways. The the basics are all you need to get started. I don't over complicate things.

    To your success


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  • Profile picture of the author vincenity1
    Thanks for the advice. What about the "One On One Coaching" warrior is offering? Should I at least take 1 crash course?
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  • Profile picture of the author Guru4u
    Hello and welcome to the exciting world of IM.

    The important thing is to get moving NOW.

    Here's what to do TODAY:
    - Write an ebook on how to sell stuff on Craigs list. Make sure you include screen shots and make it pretty. Take it step-by-step just how you did it. It doesn't have to be super fancy, just get it done.

    If you don't know how to write an ebook with inserted screen shots that's the ONLY thing you should be trying to learn right now. Learning how to do this alone will put you in a good spot.

    When that is done let me know and I will help you with the next step.

    Now get moving on that ebook!
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  • Profile picture of the author Woodward82
    I bought Micheal Cheaney millionaire warrior coaching, and thought it was excellent for the money. I think it was $27. (im not sure if it's still up or not). It will definatly give you the basics of building a solid foundation.

    But there aren't any quick money making schemes or anything that will have you making money next week.

    So if you really need the money, then don't spend it. If you can spare the money, then it would be a good, start. I'm sure there are many other great offers out there. This is the only one I can speak on.

    Another thing, have you looked into getting a 'war room' membership.
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  • Profile picture of the author vincenity1
    It is probably be only 2 pages long if I need to write one. Its basically that simple. You buy them cheap and sell them higher for a little bit of profit.
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    • Profile picture of the author madelyndon
      Originally Posted by vincenity1 View Post

      It is probably be only 2 pages long if I need to write one. Its basically that simple. You buy them cheap and sell them higher for a little bit of profit.
      2 pages long? Think of someone who has never heard of Craigslist. Then how long would it be? You need to answer these questions:

      What is Craigslist?
      Do I have to sign up?
      How can I make money with Craigslist? (Then break it down)
      You said you "buy them cheap" - but buy what? Give tips on the best items to buy and how you research to know it is worth selling to make a profit.
      Then explain the steps on buying and do actual screen shots of the process.
      Then you move on to the selling part and go over it step by step and include screen shots.
      You should also include a bit about yourself and your success on Craigslist.
      Personal stories on how you bought something really cheap and then sold it for a big profit.

      All of the above is a lot more than 2 pages.

      Start working on your ebook. In the end, you'll just wander around here and there, but eventually you will understand what they are talking about with "the list." That's the point I finally got to and I'm working on my free ebook now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Guru4u
        Originally Posted by madelyndon View Post

        Start working on your ebook. In the end, you'll just wander around here and there, but eventually you will understand what they are talking about with "the list." That's the point I finally got to and I'm working on my free ebook now.
        yes yes yes - thank you Madelyndon!

        ALSO:
        - Google sniper is outdated crap and if you download via BT you will most likely get a virus.

        - Go to the "free" seminar but, AND TRUST ME ON THIS, do not bring a credit card, debit card, checkbook or more than $5 in cash. They will take whatever you have. Think you are strong willed? They WILL wear you down.

        Ignore my advice at your own peril!

        Now write that ebook!
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        • Profile picture of the author vincenity1
          Originally Posted by Guru4u View Post

          yes yes yes - thank you Madelyndon!

          ALSO:
          - Google sniper is outdated crap and if you download via BT you will most likely get a virus.

          - Go to the "free" seminar but, AND TRUST ME ON THIS, do not bring a credit card, debit card, checkbook or more than $5 in cash. They will take whatever you have. Think you are strong willed? They WILL wear you down.

          Ignore my advice at your own peril!

          Now write that ebook!
          My only purpose there to make local friends. Really google sniper is outdated already? Ohhh....ok you just save me some times. But should I still watch it to get the basics?
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          • Profile picture of the author Guru4u
            Originally Posted by vincenity1 View Post

            My only purpose there to make local friends. Really google sniper is outdated already? Ohhh....ok you just save me some times. But should I still watch it to get the basics?
            Don't waste anymore time. Write the ebook now. SEO is waaaaay down the road.

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  • Profile picture of the author vincenity1
    Im actually downloading Google Sniper 2.0 now. I thought I need to buy it for $47. I searched on eBay and found the cheapest one is $14. And then I did more research and found that I can just go to torrent site and download it for FREE really. I guess I'll take a look at that first.
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru4u
      Originally Posted by vincenity1 View Post

      Im actually downloading Google Sniper 2.0 now. I thought I need to buy it for $47. I searched on eBay and found the cheapest one is $14. And then I did more research and found that I can just go to torrent site and download it for FREE really. I guess I'll take a look at that first.
      Start by making the ebook.
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  • Profile picture of the author vincenity1
    Ohh....so there is a free seminar this Saturday in San Mateo by Ethan Tony Chein. I think I'm just gonna make as many friends there as possible. So I can have some1 to share ideas to. I also joining all the local IM meetup groups. I need to hang out with successful people so I can learn. I don't mind buying lunches at least. Kiss some asses. lets see what will happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author usainbolt
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    You should look into investing in a reputable course or coaching program, it may cost a bit more up front but it'll speed up the learning curve
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  • Profile picture of the author aarthielumalai
    When you buy your hosting, you'll get your website builder for free. Well, yes, you can go for the coaching programs, but what I read in your OP, it looks like you're trying to save money. I've bought some WSOs in my time, and I know where to get the right info. Let me know what you want to know (via PM), and I'll try to point you in the right direction. All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author vincenity1
    what is WSOs? There are lots of programs FREE by torrent download. Yesterday I thought about buying google sniper 2.0 now Im already watching it. I'll try to get as much free info as I can for now. Make local friends by going to meetup groups. thats my plan. That google sniper thing seems to give you a fast start by just following his detail operations.
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
      Originally Posted by vincenity1 View Post

      There are lots of programs FREE by torrent download. Yesterday I thought about buying google sniper 2.0 now Im already watching it. I'll try to get as much free info as I can for now.
      Congratulations! You have just started your Internet career by openly admitting on a public forum that you are a thief.

      Internet marketing is, in large part, about your reputation. Good luck resurrecting yours.
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    I'd really go for Affiliate Programs but I should still have some source of income because no one can expect to earn fast from an online business. Just like any business, an online business needs time to develop.
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    Internet marketing takes time. Find a job to pay the bills why you work on it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru4u
      Originally Posted by peteJ View Post

      Internet marketing takes time. Find a job to pay the bills why you work on it.

      Preferably a job that has lots of down time and Internet access.
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  • Profile picture of the author Woodward82
    Word of advice, steer clear of the bit-torrents. It's not only unethical but can land you a virus.

    WSO = Warrior Special Offer. They are offers sold here on the forum.

    I would do exactly as they said, write the e-book. Dont worry about much else, doing this in the very beginning will only help you down the road.

    madelyndon post would be what I would focus on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
    FIND A JOB!!!. I love this business and all the ins and outs, but for most people the dues need to be paid. There is a ton of free stuff for you to learn here, but you will need some income to make it all happen. You don't need a ton but you will need some. Get a job get then get rolling here
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  • Profile picture of the author msu
    I think you should write the ebook. If only to get Guru4u off your back

    Seriously, writing the ebook is a great idea. And you know where you can promote it? On Craigslist - where there are plenty of people trying to do what your ebook shows them.

    Follow the ideas madelyndon gave for an outline of things you can write because you need to make it longer than two pages and that advice is how to do it.

    Don't forget you could also sell it on the Amazon Kinde book store too. Lots of possibilities for you with this book...
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  • Profile picture of the author vaibhav896
    First of all find a job to pay your bills. If you finding it difficult to buy a domain and a hosting space, then I can help you in that. but you need to work a lot on developing an Affiliate marketing business. You won't be able to make money from it on the very first day. but yes soon you will. you will also need to outsource your website optimization work.
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  • Profile picture of the author HamishW
    There is lots of advice here, but really no-one knows your situation better than you. For example, just because you have been laid off, doesn't mean you're broke.
    If you have money, time and willing to give it a go good for you! If you don't then, yes I do agree getting a job will help, even if it's just part-time.
    I might also offer the suggestion; I got started in Internet Marketing by buying an established website. This way I had some money coming in and the seller was prepared to offer support for a few months while I got the hang of things. If you are interested in starting off this way then flippa.com would be a good start for you.

    If you don't have the money to start something right now, then as guru4u said writing an ebook and publishing through kindle is great. It costs nothing (but time) to give this ago and you will get sales! These books don't have to be huge, 2000-5000 words is fine and they can be written in a day if you motivated.
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  • Profile picture of the author rmoses
    Brother , I think the answer is right in front of your face ! I know CL is kind of a no brainer ...BUT,
    I have sold my tiny little ebook ( that took me all of an hour to write and grab some royalty free images for, I have an ebook that shows you where to get free graphics,Vectors, video, backgrounds and more I will email a copy to you free) I sell it for 6.99, it doesn't pay the mortgage but it is one small income stream and the old saying goes " many streams make a river" If you need so help with the ebook hit me up.

    hosting: go with hostgator, I have never had an issue and their support has always been excellent!
    look for coupons like .01 cents for the first month etc.

    You don't need a new domain for each product just use an add on domain.
    lets say your website is jimsinternetmarketing.com then it will be jimsinternetmarketing.com/newproductname or recommends/newproductname

    as far as auto responders go Aweber has always worked well for me but is a pain with JV zoo, but you can cross that bridge when you get there.

    the bottom line is you need two commit, stay consistent and do not fall into shiney object syndrome, most of the stuff wont help and may hurt you.

    Find another job if you can asap and start slow and build a solid foundation first, everything else will work itself out in time.

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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    I would seriously spend your time trying to find a new job. Something like 90% of everyone that ties to make money online completely fail or fails to make more than like $1000 per month and something like 99% fail to make a living at it. Then only a fraction of 1% kill it.

    I've been doing this for a very long time and it's no where as easy as most think. If I was a newbie and didn't know what I already know, I would probably fail. It's dumbfounding how peoples expectations VS experience is just off the chart.

    I'm not saying not to try it. I'm just saying that you want to make sure that you can take care of your bills and only use money that you can afford to lose to learn with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    The OP hasn't been active on the forum for over 3 years. Dead thread.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      The OP hasn't been active on the forum for over 3 years. Dead thread.

      Mark
      Wow. I'm normally REALLY good at catching that and not responding to dead threads. I read the post and then responded without looking what anyone else posted, which if I had, I probably would have caught it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Attie25
    You try trading online or write ebooks as the suggestions above to see why .
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