Anyone else notice these "quirks" about Firefox lately?

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Has anyone else noticed how "buggy" the newest Firefox update is? (3.0.7)

I just updated a few days ago...and now, it seems like Firefox crashes on a really regular basis.

- If you try to open a .pdf (crash)
- If you try to go to a flash based site/movie (crash)
- Can't open two instances of Firefox simultaneously...just new tabs

In fact, Firefox just crashed when I was trying to login to PayPal.

It seems like this newest update is a real memory hog...150000K

Kinda strange...

Anyone else seeing these issues? Revert back to the old version?
#firefox #notice #quirks
  • Profile picture of the author Kenneth Fox
    Yep,

    I'm having the same issue with the latest build of Firefox.
    I wrote this same reply a few minutes ago but Firefox
    crashed when I hit the submit button.
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  • Profile picture of the author sevenish
    I have the latest version running on one of my machines with XP Pro, and the only issue I have is that it's incompatible with the Goog SEO toolbar. Otherwise it's fine for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Tracey
    My Firefox doesn't crash but it frequently takes me back to a site I'd viewed 2 or 3 clicks ago

    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Duncan
    I'm running XP Pro (Service Pack 3)

    Oddly, there are a ton of plugins that no longer work as well. It doesn't seem to work well with the Google Toolbar at the moment, just keeps bringing you back to the install page but never installs.

    Some social bookmarking toolbars no longer work as well. Strange...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jack Duncan
      OK, so this was kind of cool to know.

      I found some info about the newest release on Mozilla's website...especially regarding "Memory Hogging"...which I suspected may be causing the crashes.

      So, they suggested you restart Firefox in Safe Mode (cmd line: "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" -safe-mode)


      The thinking is that some of the plugins and addons may not be compatible with the latest release, and may be causing memory issues...


      Wow...Ya Think?


      Usually, when I startup Firefox and look at the Processes (CTRL+ALT+DEL) with just Google.com pulled up, it is using 110000K to 150000K of memory and on startup it uses almost 98% of the CPU.


      Now, starting up in Safe Mode and Disabling all Plugins, it is only using 2% of the CPU and 40000K of memory.


      Now to find out what plugin is causing the issue...


      Also, just to test further, I opened up 4 tabs of Discovery Channel's home page (lots of Flash) in Safe Mode...CPU usage 2% | Mem 146000K


      Doing the same thing without using Safe Mode....CPU usage 10-58% | Mem 207000K


      Hope this helps,
      Jack
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      • Profile picture of the author PhilG
        Yes, I installed the latest updates and have had a bunch of little annoyances since. Pages not opening, crashes, etc.

        I am playing with the new Safari and may move over, but will miss my extensions.

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      • Profile picture of the author lorrainelim
        Originally Posted by Jack Duncan View Post

        OK, so this was kind of cool to know.

        I found some info about the newest release on Mozilla's website...especially regarding "Memory Hogging"...which I suspected may be causing the crashes.

        So, they suggested you restart Firefox in Safe Mode (cmd line: "Crogram FilesMozilla Firefoxfirefox.exe" -safe-mode)


        The thinking is that some of the plugins and addons may not be compatible with the latest release, and may be causing memory issues...


        Wow...Ya Think?


        Usually, when I startup Firefox and look at the Processes (CTRL+ALT+DEL) with just Google.com pulled up, it is using 110000K to 150000K of memory and on startup it uses almost 98% of the CPU.


        Now, starting up in Safe Mode and Disabling all Plugins, it is only using 2% of the CPU and 40000K of memory.


        Now to find out what plugin is causing the issue...


        Also, just to test further, I opened up 4 tabs of Discovery Channel's home page (lots of Flash) in Safe Mode...CPU usage 2% | Mem 146000K


        Doing the same thing without using Safe Mode....CPU usage 10-58% | Mem 207000K


        Hope this helps,
        Jack
        The latest version of Firefox is retarded. There's not 1 day that it did not crash on me this past week.

        I'll try to follow your tips and see how it goes. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Duncan
    Ok, so I just went through all my Addons and Plugins...and if I hadn't used it in the last few days, I disabled it.

    Not necessarily the most objective method for finding the problem...but it worked. I'm now down to 60000K memory usage with a few plugins still installed...while that is not the 40000K usage of safe mode, it's a far cry from the previous tests with all the plugins installed.

    Cheers,
    Jack
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  • Profile picture of the author profitsouth
    Jack, my version 3.0.7 is working fine with my Vista-Business OS. The only odd thing that I've seen is Adobe Reader takes a looong time to open/display. Other than that, everything's fine.

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    • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
      I have noticed a number of things that don't work properly
      including this:

      In Cpanel go to phpMyAdmin and select a table.

      Clicking on the options in the top menu (e.g Structure, SQL, Search)
      seems to have no effect.


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  • Profile picture of the author Craig Fenton
    Hi Jack:

    Hope you are well. I have an issue with Firefox that isn't the worst thing ever but prior to an update a few months ago didn't surface.

    If I am updating a website or a blog (make it easy say it has 100 lines of text) and I go to line 47 to paste some new information. When I click the paste option the new contents are there but I am automatically sent to the top of the page. If the page had 1,000,000 lines it sends me back up to the top. The inconvenience is I have to scroll back to the point of correction. Prior to this quirk nothing but great things to say about Firefox. In fact even now I use it 99.9 percent fo the time.

    Have a fantastic day!
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    • Profile picture of the author Barbara Eyre
      Since I had to get a new computer a few weeks back, this caused me to use the FireFox 3.0.7 since I was running on the older 2.0.xxx version.

      While I do not have crash issues, I do have a couple of quirks:

      1) PayPal ... have to click on click here to reload 2 times in order to get to My Accounts after logging in.

      2) Google Analytics, export to pdf files ... they are all corrupted/broke. They weren't in the old FireFox ... although I have no clue what one has to do with the other.

      I know there is a few more, but those are the ones I encounter often/daily.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelF
    Once I uninstalled the paypal plugin, everything has worked perfectly.
    I thought is was problems with paypal, as the plugin has a history of being
    ornery. Maybe it's firefox.

    I'm running xp home edition.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Brownsword
    A couple of things:

    #1: DO NOT GO BACK TO OLD VERSIONS OF FIREFOX. Almost every update fixes a security hole, and going back to an older version because it performs better can lead to an even larger problem when (not "if") you visit a compromised website.

    Please resist the temptation to do this.

    #2: There are some good tips about improving performance. Above all, get rid of plugins you don't need or use.

    #3: If you notice a bug, take a moment to report it at https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Bug_writing_guidelines (this page has the instructions and a link to the actual bug report form). Open source software relies on the user and developer community working together to make things better. Taking a few minutes to report a bug is a good way to give back.

    #4: The problem may not be Firefox. Get yourself a good anti-virus program (I wrote a blog post about my recommendation at my Simple Security Tips blog -- this one also includes anti-spyware protection and comes with a fully functional 15 day free trial) and fully scan your computer. You might be surprised by what you find.

    #5: I dumped Acrobat Reader a long time ago because, in my opinion, it is bloated and slow. I now use Foxit Reader (also free for the basic version). My story behind uninstalling Acrobat Reader is at this link -- and even though I now have DSL, I still won't go back...

    HTH,
    Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
      It is killing me. Crashed my laptop about 5 times in the past 2 days.
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  • Profile picture of the author thinkrich
    Works fine for Me on XP Pro
    Slightly more RAM usage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shukri Sudin
    That's strange... I had problem opening .pdf files (the browser crashed) BEFORE upgrading to FireFox 3.0.7.

    However, I do have a couple of quirks like the download window won't open when trying to download from certain website.
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  • Profile picture of the author cganz
    I just had an issue where Firefox did not display a form created in AWeber but the form shows fine in IE. Not sure why.
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  • Profile picture of the author YaniB
    Hi
    I'm on FireFox 3.0.5 and I HAVE been getting alot of crashes too. And funnily enough, everytime I open WarriorForum it opens on the WSO about CPA every single time. Wierd. Certain downloads (esp. antivirus ones) instantly close the browser, too.

    YaniB
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    • Profile picture of the author askloz
      yup, i keep getting these pop up boxes that appear about the flash stuff on sites on the last update. recently crashed when trying to login to ebay, cos they got all that flash tech on the sites. me running on vista ultimate 64 bit.
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  • Profile picture of the author knmrwarrior
    No problems on the Mac.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde Dennis
    I've noticed over the last couple of 'upgrades' it has gotten more and more unstable unfortunately. They seem to be upgrading it in the wrong direction.
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  • Profile picture of the author ureba
    I only experience random crashes with firefox lately when visiting certain sites.

    no other real issues for me.
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    not alone

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  • Profile picture of the author foxtrot3
    FF 3.0.7 working fine here with XP home and XP pro.
    Make sure you have the latest version of Flash.
    Dump Adobe reader, do it now! Replace it with Foxit reader.
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  • Profile picture of the author tomcam
    Jack, this probably isn't the answer you want, but I've almost completely replaced FireFox with Google Chrome. In your case you would probably want to use Chrome as a secondary browser while Mozilla fixes the existing bugs. Of course plugins don't work, so no Web Developer or other tasty stuff. But for 90% of my daily browsing I've been very surprised by Chrome's stability. I tend to work with 25 or so open tabs, which FireFox doesn't take kindly to.
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