My Thoughts About Kindle Publishing

by Mike Hill 20 replies
Hey Warriors,

It's 01:40 in the morning, I'm tired and was just thinking about going to bed when I had an idea. A realization really...

It seems to me, the future of Kindle publishing, especially in the fiction genre, are going to become even more popular once people start to realize more and more fiction writers are going to be presented with movie deals.

Why you say?

I'm glad you asked. Here's why I think movie producers will turn to Amazon.

1. Movies cost millions and millions of dollars to produce

2. By looking at these mega hit kindle books they can save a lot of money by not having to speculate near as much.

3. The producers can gauge the popularity of a certain theme, story line, etc.before ever investing a penny.

4. When a book sells hundreds of thousands of copies the movie industry knows they have a captive audience. They simply need to make the characters come to life on the big screen.

5. I know the movie industry already bases a lot of movies from books, hence everyone talking about a movie and saying "I like the book better". But Kindle gives them a wider area to choose from.

I may be just too tired for my own good but at least right now this makes perfect sense to me. I may have a different opinion in the morning.

Just thought I'd share my thoughts and see what others are thinking.
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  • Profile picture of the author imfusa
    I believe that is quite more profitable to write a book than make a movie.
    The audience for a book is drastically smaller than the one of a movie, of course depends on the marketing of the book/movie, but the costs are way cheaper than producing a movie.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by imfusa View Post

      I believe that is quite more profitable to write a book than make a movie.
      The audience for a book is drastically smaller than the one of a movie, of course depends on the marketing of the book/movie, but the costs are way cheaper than producing a movie.
      I'm talking about books like Hunger Games, Fifty Shades etc, etc... That have a huge book following and now have movie deals from Hollywood. Never wanted to create my own movie.
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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

        I'm talking about books like Hunger Games, Fifty Shades etc, etc... That have a huge book following and now have movie deals from Hollywood. Never wanted to create my own movie.
        Oh no... Another movie I am going to be dragged to!!
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    • Profile picture of the author DonnyBoy
      Originally Posted by imfusa View Post

      I believe that is quite more profitable to write a book than make a movie.
      The audience for a book is drastically smaller than the one of a movie, of course depends on the marketing of the book/movie, but the costs are way cheaper than producing a movie.
      I totally agree with you...
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      • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
        I feel you are right. As times goes by more people who have a flavor for writing are getting into kindle. This means a lot of new blood and ideas.

        Movie producers will deffinitely be roaming around looking for new plots. I just hope they buy them.

        Question for those who write: have you tried using pinterest to gather images that are inspiration or are related to your book? I started doing it, and once I put locations and faces to the characters, somehow it looked more movie-like.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dailybread
          Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

          I feel you are right. As times goes by more people who have a flavor for writing are getting into kindle. This means a lot of new blood and ideas.

          Movie producers will deffinitely be roaming around looking for new plots. I just hope they buy them.

          Question for those who write: have you tried using pinterest to gather images that are inspiration or are related to your book? I started doing it, and once I put locations and faces to the characters, somehow it looked more movie-like.
          Hi Sandra,

          Geoff Shaw, Kindling, recommends that when you write fiction you use the names of people you know and allow them to speak as you know they speak. It gives you a good grasp on your characters.

          He also recommends using Google Earth to see exactly what the location you are writing about is like.

          I thought these were two brilliant ideas that add texture and depth to your writing.

          Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author Dailybread
    Hey Mike,

    I reckon you are right. Amazon Kindle will be a goldmine for movie makers. No expensive publishers to negotiate with. Straight to the authors. Think Fifty Shades of, The Hunger Games etc.

    I have two books which will be made into movies.

    Fear The Dark. A strong and unique horror novel. If you have never been afraid of the dark...You will be.
    The Adventures of Princess Lau. A whimsical comedy/fantasy with dragons, a Chinese princess and cows.

    I am just waiting for the movie studios to get in touch with me.

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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by Dailybread View Post

      Hey Mike,

      I reckon you are right. Amazon Kindle will be a goldmine for movie makers. No expensive publishers to negotiate with. Straight to the authors. Think Fifty Shades of, The Hunger Games etc.

      I have two books which will be made into movies.

      Fear The Dark. A strong and unique horror novel. If you have never been afraid of the dark...You will be.
      The Adventures of Princess Lau. A whimsical comedy/fantasy with dragons, a Chinese princess and cows.

      I am just waiting for the movie studios to get in touch with me.

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      I think you're making some inaccurate assumptions. I agree that mainstream Hollywood producers will be getting a bit of a break, at first. But just because there's no big publisher behind a book doesn't mean they're going to steal it. There's been enough buzz about Amazon and Kindle and the popularity of independent self-published authors and the movie industry is already there. And as has been mentioned, there's a proven audience for the stories, though these stories aren't guaranteed to transition well to the big screen. Some will and some won't.

      There are a couple of dozen (many more, actually) very popular Kindle authors right now that are building massive followings. Some of them already have movie deals while others are negotiating. These people are contracting with A-list literary agents who are commanding the same kind of screen deals, rights and money as the Grishams and Pattersons and all the rest.

      It's just a year or so before the little Kindle playground becomes another industry standard.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    I agree and I am actually on the process of finishing my first fiction. Kindle also provides opportunity to many unknown authors. last time I head, EL James first published the 50 Shades of Grey through Kindle.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gordon Meagher
    I think your are defo onto something. You don't need to write a long novel a Novella would be do just fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Not only will movie producers be watching this space (Amazon Kindle) for new ideas but television stations like HBO and AMC for series ideas.

    There are a ton of different series that make these companies a lot of money. My favorites are Breaking Bad, Lost, Walking Dead. But back to the point here...

    So when it comes right down to it I think the eBook space is being watched by a lot of big players.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amy Harrop
    Interesting perspective...movies have always borrowed from books, and with the sky-high cost of film making, more and more mainstream and large budget films are based on books or existing material. If you look at the Academy Award picture nominees the last few years, the majority of them are based on books or staged plays.

    I could see fiction ebooks becoming another area where producers find hot property for films. There is also a cross-over to film making now from the digital world as well. Amazon has started a new studio and put out a call for screenplays.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bryan
      One things for sure Hollywood could use some fresh movie ideas and creating a movie based on book that caught fire would be a great thing for Movie companies and movie goers.

      I think there are a lot of real life stories that could be made into movies as well, for everyone loves an inspirational movie based on a real story. Fiction has done well in the movies but so has dramas based on a real life story.

      Hurricane, Patch Adams, Radio, Remember the Titans and many more have resonated with people more than some fiction movies.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You got a point Mike. The best example of what you said is that movie "Twilight".
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    That makes me wonder if anyone actually writes Kindle books in screenplay format. I haven't searched yet, but I imagine someone must have thought of it. Though I'm not sure how well Kindle would maintain the proper format. If so, it could be a good way to tempt a movie producer to buy the rights to your script.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

      That makes me wonder if anyone actually writes Kindle books in screenplay format. I haven't searched yet, but I imagine someone must have thought of it. Though I'm not sure how well Kindle would maintain the proper format. If so, it could be a good way to tempt a movie producer to buy the rights to your script.
      I doubt that the format is going to be what attracts a movie producer to buy rights to a story or treatment. Once an idea is purchased, that producer is going to turn it over to his own team of writers to produce a script for him.

      Unlike some high schools, real movie producers don't run down to the bookstore and buy X copies of a play - or to Amazon. I just can't get an image of a director, actors, film crew, prop people, etc. running around a sound stage or location while they all stared at their Kindles...:p
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  • Profile picture of the author tagalog
    I believe that Movie producers are no penny-pinchers and are very set in their ways regarding ideas and fund raising.

    I doubt Amazon Kindle will play a big part in future movies. Perhaps the odd one here and there, but certainly not enough to get excited about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dailybread
    I have to say that Kindle is completely changing the face of publishing.

    There are thousands of authors who used to have a snowballs chance in hell of getting published but are now right there on Amazon. Not only are they now published, but Kindle gives them access to be read on Kindles, ipads, tablets, mobiles, pcs and just about any other device you can thing of.

    Is this a good thing? I reckon so.
    Is there a lot of dross on Kindle? Absolutely, but so what? The dross sinks, never to be read again. No matter how well promoted it may be.

    Kindle publishing is the future. IMHO.

    BTW, I was joshing about my novels. :-)
    But, who knows?

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  • Profile picture of the author GoodFE
    Well if you were to build a large following then it's highly plausible.

    Many on Kindle want instant success and thats why they fail. For example, you never get a question asking if you can make a book 50k+ or 70k+, its always 'would someone buy a book that is 2000 words'.

    Some IM'ers dont realize that kindle is a different ball game. You are competing with established authors with a bigger audience and word count etc. Besides, most people looking for Kindle books do it through the Amazon website and your sales have a massive impact on your ranking.

    If this is your goal (I know the OP didn't say this was his goal, I mean anyone reading this) then you need to write series of books, I would go Paranormal Romance personally due to the popularity.

    Don't go Vampire of Werewolf because you will be seen as a Twilight rip-off. Think of something that hasn't been done in the genre on a large scale yet.

    Have a strong female lead. Tell the story in the first person (this way you can vividly describe emotions, such as love).

    Make the first book permanently free through price match, make the second book 0.99c and then upscale from there. You hook in the audience with the first 2 books by offering massive value and build a fanbase.

    Have a website/blog were you can update fans on your upcoming books.

    You also need to make sure you don't cut corners. Make the book a novel. Don't make it 15k or 30k because you should be trying to MAXIMIZE your chances of success.
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  • Profile picture of the author iSoftware
    Amazon.com ALREADY has a moving producing wing - Amazon Studios
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