Making Money After 7 Years Online -2k Posts Yay!

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Hello,

I'm struggling for words to type to be honest.

I have seen those posts before 1k, 2k, 5k, 10k posts "Here is the secret to my success..."

People usually put a fair bit of effort into it.

I'll give it a go.
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7 years ago I was in Dresden Germany with my girlfriend. We where living there at the time. I had burned out my cash and was on my last few hundred dollars that where left on the credit card.

I walked into an Internet cafe which would become a habit for me.

I cant remember what or who it was first but I think it was either something from Frank Kern or that guy that did the 'Rich Jerk' stuff that first introduced me to online marketing and the ability to make money online from anywhere in the world.

Like most other people I began paying for ebooks and programs that where all empty promises. Some where straight out scams.

I spent hours in that Internet cafe... the beer was cheap.

One of the first things I ever did online was to setup a free blogger blog. Like every other newbie I tried to do what I saw others doing and created my blog around the MMO (make money online) niche.

I remember researching and writing about stuff that I had read or already knew a little about. I made like $13 in adsense one day and I was over the moon!

My morals got the better of me and I deleted that blog. I couldnt be a fake. I resented people like that.

Fast forward a few years, we moved back to Australia and I had lost about 5k on "ideas". "BIG Ideas" yeah right.

That is what I wanted, a big idea to come along and abracadabra...

I didnt want to work my butt off. Not because I was lazy, I have never been lazy. Never. I have worked every damn muscle, bone and cell in my body until it was sore and aching... I can tell you about real work in trenches, factories and snow covered streets. I have done every pain in the ass job in the Universe I think!

That's why I respect blue collar workers so much!

I think it was me just being naive and believing all of the "get rich in 12 seconds BS" that the pros where putting out all the time. I would have loved for someone to tap me on the shoulder and say "Hey, you do realize most of these guys where working 14, 15 hours per day and well into the night when they first started and some still do".

I must admit, some of the ideas where great. But my lack of understanding as to how things worked and my ADHD turned "enthusiasm" got the better of me.

I got scammed by Mexicans, the Chinese and even some American teenage video gamer! What a dumb ass I was! (I love all people, just sayin...)

Fast forward again, almost 10K down the guzzler... don't, please don't remind me...

Some people on this forum may even remember my last BIG idea. Reviewdoo.com I worked on it for a while then got rid of it... how sad, what a waste...

The way I look at it, all the years of failures, late nights spent behind a computer screen, trials and tribulations. I have learned a s**t load! I basically have a doctorate degree in failing at stuff online!

... and what is worse is that I knew what the guru's did, I knew how they made money. They built lists, and sold stuff. They sold physical goods, they owned membership sites, SEO yada yada yada...

I was just too thick headed and I wanted to do things my way.

Only just in the last few months of my 7 years online I have started to make money. Real money, real hard cash! And boy does it feel good!

I finally gave in. I did what I was good at and what I knew would bring me in some money (not pole dancing). Sure it's not sexy, and you have to work your ass off. But I decided to do the smart thing and "go for the money", you know stop worrying and planning and strategizing so much.

I just decided to go for the money.

I started Writing.


It is consistent. No I don't want to do it forever, but it pay the bills and puts extra money in my pocket, money for other investments. That is the plan after all...

I swear to you when I say this, in 7 years I didn't see not one single dollar.

Sure I made a few sales on clickbank, a few on adsense and made some money on eBay (eBay was different, I did that with my Girlfriend) but I never hit the level where I saw a check. And it was not because of anything other than the fact that I had my own ideas, I thought I knew but I didn't, I wanted to do stuff the easy way because I thought I was ahead when in fact I was simply dazed and confused.

Even though I could have consulted million dollar companies because of the stuff that was in between my ears from all the stuff I had read both offline and online, I chose to struggle like an idiot.

However, I am thankful for it now. Thankful that I did things the hard way and learnt them. Properly. Who could have asked for a better education.

Here is what I have learnt:

-Marketing is exactly like fishing! Exactly!

-Stop thinking and start doing, just think about what you are doing before you do it... haha that was supposed to confuse you. Leads me to my next point.

-Learn to balance. There is no 7 steps, 3 rules, 10 habits or 1 secret. Trust me there really isn't. There are a million shades of grey and you have to learn to balance them. One person is going to tell you he made it by selling socks on eBay the other is going to swear that CPA is the only thing to ever make anyone successful. But guess what? They are both different people and so are you. Learn to balance. Take what you can from everything.

-Read and don't stop until your eyes burn! The more you learn from articles, videos, books, blogs, forums etc. It is going to teach you and will start to see patterns. When those patterns take place and you notice them that is when you can really start deciding what is right for you, and what will work, for you.

-Sell something! Until you offer someone something and put a price on it you will always be gambling. Gambling time and possibly money. Third party money makers are a gamble. Adsense and all that is for people who are already cleaning up or people that are just bored and need a new hobby. Dont listen to the stories you hear about how that 1 guy made 250K in a month. Those are the 1% of cases. It is much better to sell one thing for $100 then to work on a website day and night for months just to see a check from Amazon or Google.

-Know your numbers. I am terrible at math and so I have been forcing myself to learn more by calculating things manually. You will never truly appreciate things until you can see the math behind them. And on top of that, you need to know if a business is viable and having some guru tell you he made 2k in a week does not suffice. Learn about tax, over heads, marketing costs. Once you are done with every cost you will learn that what most people take home is far less than what they advertise.

-Stop trying to "Make Money" and instead build a sustainable business. You can make 100, 200, 500 or 5k in a week but if that dries up what have you got? Nothing. Either get in and get out or get in and stay in. Have a plan and don't just do things because you can see "How it will work out for you".

-Provide value, make sure you are a perfectionist nut job about your work. Go the extra mile and really dig deep. Your customers will love you for it and it will do wonders for you. Remember, word of mouth is still the biggest form of advertising.

-Throw out all the crap. Get to the guts of the information. The core. Forget about all the bulls**t law of attraction, time management, influencing people, karma crystal ball tony robbins nlp magic dance prayer thing! What are they really trying to say?!

-Success really can be described as opportunity meeting preparation. Have patience, today may not be your day. But it may be next week, next month, next year or like me in 7 years time and if you give up you will never know. The more you prepare yourself through learning and experience the better prepared you will be when the opportunity comes along.


Last but not least. Be thankful, be positive and learn to have fun. At the end of the day the world keeps spinning and time moves on. The last thing you want to say on your death bed is that you didnt spend enough time with the people you love and doing the things you want to do. Any business is only a means to an end. Never forget that.

Thank you Warrior Forum.

p.s. if you want to see the exact thread I used to earn money: http://www.warriorforum.com/warriors...ally-read.html

p.s.s. if you want to copy my exact methods for putting it all together: http://www.warriorforum.com/war-room...-warriors.html

-Andrei
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      Congratulations, Andrei, sounds like not only do you staying power, but you have figured a lot of things out.

      Build a sustainable business and throw out the crap, those sound like genuinely useful pieces of advice. Leave the loopholes by the side of the road on your way to a real business and provide some value to people.

      That makes for a good long term business you don't have to keep reinventing every week. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author J Thornhill
    Good information thanks for the share
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  • Profile picture of the author rocketmary
    Long story, but a good one. Thanks for sharing!
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    $10K in the guzzler? Dag... I'm glad you came up out of that.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      $10K in the guzzler? Dag... I'm glad you came up out of that.
      I got done for over 3K trying to import video games into Australia which I planned to sell online.

      I then bought a "turnkey" website for 1K, I was apparently making 20K per month and then the check never came... lol.

      I then invested money into a FREE Internet project, wongs fortune cookies (which was supposed run off of the million dollar website idea), blogs, video sites, review sites, affiliate strategies, offline and most recently did some mobile stuff.

      BIG learning curve!
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      • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
        nice story.

        how do you reach perfection without the Law of Attraction?

        or maybe I should ask what's your definition of the law of Attraction?
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        • Profile picture of the author goindeep
          Originally Posted by Walter Parrish View Post

          nice story.

          how do you reach perfection without the Law of Attraction?

          or maybe I should ask what's your definition of the law of Attraction?
          I think that most of the law of attraction stuff is bulls**t with a small percentage of truth mixed into it.

          For instance I remember watching "The Secret" and if you remember correctly they never even laid out a plan for people, they just said all these nice and wonderful things about it that made you feel good and then The End...

          Without getting all scientific. It more or less has to do with thoughts and especially emotions having a specific vibration of frequency. This has been tested on everything from plants to ice crystals and even some kind of micro life I seen one time.

          Now how this attraction part works, I don't know to be honest I don't think anyone does yet... so be careful when listening to the experts that are apparently "channeling" the law of attractions gods. I think it probably has something to do with the laws of nature...

          Common sense plays a massive role. Be happy and happy people will want to be with you, smile and your prospects will appreciate it. Set goals and review them daily.

          But don't just say a prayer and visualize something and then expect some omni-present force to work it's magic for you in your life. You already have all the tools you need to go get what you want.
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          • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
            Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

            I think that most of the law of attraction stuff is bulls**t with a small percentage of truth mixed into it.

            For instance I remember watching "The Secret" and if you remember correctly they never even laid out a plan for people, they just said all these nice and wonderful things about it that made you feel good and then The End...

            Without getting all scientific. It more or less has to do with thoughts and especially emotions having a specific vibration of frequency. This has been tested on everything from plants to ice crystals and even some kind of micro life I seen one time.

            Now how this attraction part works, I don't know to be honest I don't think anyone does yet... so be careful when listening to the experts that are apparently "channeling" the law of attractions gods. I think it probably has something to do with the laws of nature...

            Common sense plays a massive role. Be happy and happy people will want to be with you, smile and your prospects will appreciate it. Set goals and review them daily.

            But don't just say a prayer and visualize something and then expect some omni-present force to work it's magic for you in your life. You already have all the tools you need to go get what you want.
            Exactly, I think a lot of authors and movies leave out the details not all on purpose, but because for some of them it comes natural. There are some books though mainly the older books that were out before they even called it the law of attraction that really go into details on developing.

            I would say that you are working with the law of attraction and perfection, because a lot of what you mentioned in your thread is all the law of attraction, but it's like you have to be really deep into to know.

            Myself I was selling books before I re discovered Internet and Affiliate marketing. The used book business was nothing great, but it helped to pay the bills. My problem was that I didn't diversify and get into other things, so when book sales declined I was left with little to nothing, some weeks no sales, other weeks maybe 1 low priced book selling.

            I stay positive and focus working with the loa and I have been making it for a few years now one way or the other, with help coming from unexpected places, enough help to still have my hosting, rent paid, and pay bills. So, I'm a firm believer in the loa, but I know it on a deeper level than most. As far as perfection it can be a cructch sometimes and I'm glad you mentioned it, because being smart intelligent, etc doesn't always = making money, because sometimes we focus to much on details that don't matter. Like you said it's about doing the work and that's where most in IM loose out they stop working.

            great thread
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  • Profile picture of the author Griffin Smith
    Really good thought out story Andrei. I read it twice
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    Great story really enjoyed reading it.
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    Great story and a great read , congrat's on your success
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  • Andre, congratulations on the lessons learned. I know what its like to spend 1000s of dollars on ideas and not see a profit.

    Ive found that personally, my best ideas come from dark places when Ive had little money at all to invest.

    The fact that you have made it this far despite the road blocks is a true testament to what you are made of and inspiring.

    Wishing you many more years of success!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jackson Tan
    Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

    Hello,

    Last but not least. Be thankful, be positive and learn to have fun. At the end of the day the world keeps spinning and time moves on. The last thing you want to say on your death bed is that you didnt spend enough time with the people you love and doing the things you want to do. Any business is only a means to an end. Never forget that.

    Thank you Warrior Forum.

    -Andrei
    I especially love this part.. let us not forget what we are really trying to achieve.. money eventually is just a tool to greater things

    Thanks for sharing and reminding us once again!
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    An realistic one! I must say
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    Good job! Inspiring. Never give up guys!!
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    Great share! Very motivational.
    Thanks for posting...!
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  • Profile picture of the author Takuyar
    Thanks for sharing.... don't give up! Life is always like a roller coaster!
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    Thanks for the inspiring story! I would never give up..
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Having a never say die approach is good, if you know how to mix things up.

      The last thing anyone would want to do is do the same thing over and over again. If something doesnt work, throw it out and start again.
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    Enjoyed reading your story Andrei, thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
    Andrei....

    Great story with some great pearls of wisdom!

    Adding value is so key to the process. My experience has always been to overdeliver in value so much that your buyers feel that they are getting your products/services for a steal! It really sets you apart from the masses!

    Thanks for taking the time to share and contribute!
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  • Profile picture of the author Morten V
    Thanks for the read Andrei!
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    Nice story, man! Good luck with your earnings from now on, there will be more challenges and more money to be earned.
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    bwaahha.. nice story there.. thank you..
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Dunstan
    I hear that story and see myself!

    Great share and glad to hear that you have come out of the other side!

    Well done. Good to see some honesty on the WF about the times when things are hard too.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by Paul Dunstan View Post

      I hear that story and see myself!

      Great share and glad to hear that you have come out of the other side!

      Well done. Good to see some honesty on the WF about the times when things are hard too.
      Thank you.

      Its not that it was hard.

      I had a full time job throughout most of it, but it wasnt easy either. It was more so the fact of late nights, burning myself out, burning my money, time away from the family and nothing to show for it apart from the experiences and the knowledge gained.

      It's funny how the drought can easily turn into a monsoon though.

      At one point recently I could barely keep up with work and orders.

      I have cut myself a nice little slice of the article writing and content creation pie by offering a unique writing service that is un-matched IMHO. It's hard to write comedy but it pays well.

      The plan is to quit working full time in 2013 or sooner.
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  • Profile picture of the author swiftstep
    Cheers for sharing man. Really inspiring and makes me realise that the £50 I threw away into adwords is nothing I will not stop trying to succeed in IM, even if it takes me 8 years!
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by swiftstep View Post

      Cheers for sharing man. Really inspiring and makes me realise that the £50 I threw away into adwords is nothing I will not stop trying to succeed in IM, even if it takes me 8 years!
      That's the attitude you need to have.

      I read about The guy that Started Honda. He had his factory destroyed not once, but twice, he was denied funding from Toyota, sold his wife's jewelry just to get by (insane right there), slept in the work shop. The guy was crazy about his goal and he never gave up.

      NEVER SAY DIE.

      You can read about him here: The Story of Soichiro Honda (article) - the Business Start Page

      (not affiliated, just something I found online).

      Reminds me of that movie The Adjustment Bureau. Something arn't "meant to be" I dont think so...
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    Just taking action and surrounding yourself with the best and brightest goes a long way for sure. Great post
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    Wow...Is the spirit of not giving up that make you success!

    Keep providing value to us...hehe...

    Have a nice day
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    Nice! Thanks for sharing Andrei.
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    dedication and persistence always pays in the end, that's what i know personally. Thanks for sharing.
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    Thnx for sharing this excellent info Andrei.
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    Great Story Andrei!! Congrats on the persistance, which by the way is key in this business.
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    Wow..You have good writen skills andrei, awesome story!
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  • Profile picture of the author FIP
    Andrei thanks for sharing. Its good to see you cam out of it with a whole heap of experience and the ability to see that as valuable in and of itself.
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    Thanks for sharing and congratulations on moving forward in your career. Way to stick in it.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
    That was an interesting read thanks Andrei, I too had problems getting started, it just takes perseverance and hard work to succeed.

    Good on you!

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Carlson
    Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

    Hello,

    I'm struggling for words to type to be honest.

    I have seen those posts before 1k, 2k, 5k, 10k posts "Here is the secret to my success..."

    People usually put a fair bit of effort into it.

    I'll give it a go.
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    7 years ago I was in Dresden Germany with my girlfriend. We where living there at the time. I had burned out my cash and was on my last few hundred dollars that where left on the credit card.

    I walked into an Internet cafe which would become a habit for me from then on.

    I cant remember what or who it was first but I think it was either something from Frank Kern or that guy that did the 'Rich Jerk' stuff that first introduced me to online marketing and the ability to make money online from anywhere in the world.

    Like most other people I began paying for ebooks and programs that where all empty promises. Some where straight out scams.

    I spent hours in that Internet cafe... the beer was cheap.

    One of the first things I ever did online was to setup a free blogger blog. Like every other newbie I tried to do what I saw others doing and created my blog around the MMO (make money online) niche.

    I remember researching and writing about stuff that I had read or already knew a little about. I made like $13 in adsense one day and I was over the moon!

    My morals got the better of me and I deleted that blog. I couldnt be a fake. I resented people like that.

    Fast forward a few years, we moved back to Australia and I had lost about 5k on "ideas". "BIG Ideas" yeah right.

    That is what I wanted, a big idea to come along and abracadabra...

    I didnt want to work my butt off. Not because I was lazy, I have never been lazy. Never. I have worked every damn muscle, bone and cell in my body until it was sore and aching... I can tell you about real work in trenches, factories and snow covered streets. I have done every pain in the ass job in the Universe I think!

    That's why I respect blue collar workers so much!

    I think it was me just being naive and believing all of the "get rich in 12 seconds BS" that the pros where putting out all the time. I would have loved for someone to tap me on the shoulder and say "Hey, you do realize most of these guys where working 14, 15 hours per day and well into the night when they first started and some still do".

    I must admit, some of the ideas where great. But my lack of understanding as to how things worked and my ADHD turned "enthusiasm" got the better of me.

    I got scammed by Mexicans, the Chinese and even some American teenage video gamer! What a dumb ass I was! (I love all people, just sayin...)

    Fast forward again, almost 10K down the guzzler... don't, please don't remind me...

    Some people on this forum may even remember my last BIG idea. Reviewdoo.com I worked on it for a while then got rid of it... how sad, what a waste...

    The way I look at it, all the years of failures, late nights spent behind a computer screen, trials and tribulations. I have learned a s**t load! I basically have a doctorate degree in failing at stuff online!

    ... and what is worse is that I knew what the guru's did, I knew how they made money. They built lists, and sold stuff. They sold physical goods, they owned membership sites, SEO yada yada yada...

    I was just too thick headed and I wanted to do things my way.

    Only just in the last few months of my 7 years online I have started to make money. Real money, real hard cash! And boy does it feel good!

    I finally gave in. I did what I was good at and what I knew would bring me in some money (not pole dancing). Sure it's not sexy, and you have to work your ass off. But I decided to do the smart thing and "go for the money", you know stop worrying and planning and strategizing so much.

    I just decided to go for the money.

    I started Writing.

    It is consistent. No I don't want to do it forever, but it pay the bills and puts extra money in my pocket, money for other investments. That is the plan after all...

    I swear to you when I say this, in 7 years I didn't see not one single dollar.

    Sure I made a few sales on clickbank, a few on adsense and made some money on eBay (eBay was different, I did that with my Girlfriend) but I never hit the level where I saw a check. And it was not because of anything other than the fact that I had my own ideas, I thought I knew but I didn't, I wanted to do stuff the easy way because I thought I was ahead when in fact I was simply dazed and confused.

    Even though I could have consulted million dollar companies because of the stuff that was in between my ears from all the stuff I had read both offline and online, I chose to struggle like an idiot.

    However, I am thankful for it now. Thankful that I did things the hard way and learnt them. Properly. Who could have asked for a better education.

    Here is what I have learnt:

    -Marketing is exactly like fishing! Exactly!

    -Stop thinking and start doing, just think about what you are doing before you do it... haha that was supposed to confuse you. Leads me to my next point.

    -Learn to balance. There is no 7 steps, 3 rules, 10 habits or 1 secret. Trust me there really isn't. There are a million shades of grey and you have to learn to balance them. One person is going to tell you he made it by selling socks on eBay the other is going to swear that CPA is the only thing to ever make anyone successful. But guess what? They are both different people and so are you. Learn to balance. Take what you can from everything.

    -Read and don't stop until your eyes burn! The more you learn from articles, videos, books, blogs, forums etc. It is going to teach you and will start to see patterns. When those patterns take place and you notice them that is when you can really start deciding what is right for you, and what will work, for you.

    -Sell something! Until you offer someone something and put a price on it you will always be gambling. Gambling time and possibly money. Third party money makers are a gamble. Adsense and all that is for people who are already cleaning up or people that are just bored and need a new hobby. Dont listen to the stories you hear about how that 1 guy made 250K in a month. Those are the 1% of cases. It is much better to sell one thing for $100 then to work on a website day and night for months just to see a check from Amazon or Google.

    -Know your numbers. I am terrible at math and so I have been forcing myself to learn more by calculating things manually. You will never truly appreciate things until you can see the math behind them. And on top of that, you need to know if a business is viable and having some guru tell you he made 2k in a week does not suffice. Learn about tax, over heads, marketing costs. Once you are done with every cost you will learn that what most people take home is far less than what they advertise.

    -Stop trying to "Make Money" and instead build a sustainable business. You can make 100, 200, 500 or 5k in a week but if that dries up what have you got? Nothing. Either get in and get out or get in and stay in. Have a plan and don't just do things because you can see "How it will work out for you".

    -Provide value, make sure you are a perfectionist nut job about your work. Go the extra mile and really dig deep. Your customers will love you for it and it will do wonders for you. Remember, word of mouth is still the biggest form of advertising.

    -Throw out all the crap. Get to the guts of the information. The core. Forget about all the bulls**t law of attraction, time management, influencing people, karma crystal ball tony robbins nlp magic dance prayer thing! What are they really trying to say?!

    -Success really can be described as opportunity meeting preparation. Have patience, today may not be your day. But it may be next week, next month, next year or like me in 7 years time and if you give up you will never know. The more you prepare yourself through learning and experience the better prepared you will be when the opportunity comes along.


    Last but not least. Be thankful, be positive and learn to have fun. At the end of the day the world keeps spinning and time moves on. The last thing you want to say on your death bed is that you didnt spend enough time with the people you love and doing the things you want to do. Any business is only a means to an end. Never forget that.

    Thank you Warrior Forum.

    -Andrei
    Hey Andrei,
    You have a very inspirational story...

    I fully agree with you when you say it is better to sell something of your own than depending on third party services.

    When you sell something of your own,you are building your business,you have full control over it.Depending on middlemen is really a gamble.

    You can make some very good money with Adsense but if all of your income is dependent on them,you are placing yourself in a very vulnerable position.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by Matt Carlson View Post

      Hey Andrei,
      You have a very inspirational story...

      I fully agree with you when you say it is better to sell something of your own than depending on third party services.

      When you sell something of your own,you are building your business,you have full control over it.Depending on middlemen is really a gamble.

      You can make some very good money with Adsense but if all of your income is dependent on them,you are placing yourself in a very vulnerable position.
      I think that is the idea building a "sustainable" business...

      it might only start with $20 a week, but if you can turn that $20 into $50 and then $100 and then $300 over the course of a few weeks then that is something real, that is sustainable.

      That's now $300 you didn't have before. Use it to by software, automate a task, take a day off work and build your business some more, hire a part time or casual freelancer. Or save the money for an investment into another area of online business.

      My problem was that I went for the money last instead of first. I tried to build my business as if I was some kind of millionaire that had never ending funds. When I sat down and said "I'm going to go after the cheese, no more screwing around. I got it almost instantly". It's funny these little tipping points we all have.

      For some its something psychological, others its knowledge and for others its simply they aren't doing the right thing.

      That's why I don't believe in "3 golden rules" and "the 7 secrets of guru Lambo drivers" or whatever and what not... everyone is different and there are a million shades of grey for every unique situation.

      Like my old boss used to say to me "Just keep chipping away..."
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    Great post! Thanks for the honest review of the IM industry in general.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Schuman
    I enjoyed your detailed post. Thanks for taking the time to write all of your thoughts. 2K posts is no small feat. I appreciate how you ended everything as well. Having some balance in your life and having fun away from the computer is actually one of the keys to making money in front of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by Jeff Schuman View Post

      I enjoyed your detailed post. Thanks for taking the time to write all of your thoughts. 2K posts is no small feat. I appreciate how you ended everything as well. Having some balance in your life and having fun away from the computer is actually one of the keys to making money in front of it.
      Thanks Jeff, really appreciate it man.

      Speaking of which, I have a book to go read now...
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  • If you like the never say die attitude you should listen to the LEGO story on youtube = ) I believe their factory got destroyed several times and other problems but kept on going regardless ;> .
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  • Profile picture of the author Ofaict
    Thanks Andrei!
    I appreciate you sharing your story with us. While it is difficult to read about your struggle, it's nice to know that you found the "light at the end of the tunnel."
    Each of us has success within us and you have found yours.
    Awesome!
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