Am I really that bad at Affiliate Marketing ... ?

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Hey,

I'm really asking myself how anybody can really get money out of Affiliate Marketing. I have to do something really wrong. Im trying to get just a single Sale since 1 Week ( 75$ AdWords + 19$ Domain + 10$ Facebook advertisment ) -> 600 Clicks -> 120 Hops ) but no success.
How can I continue that? Im spending ~8$ per Day (80 Clicks) in AdWords that means I whould have to make 1 Sale per 2 Days but im not even doing a single Sale in 1 Week.

Invested : 110$~
Money gained : 0$

My landing Page :


New landing Page :


So could anybode here tell me what im doing that wrong ?
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    How money times you are doing each campaign? If just one time, need more 19 times to do it again.

    Thomas Edison almost 10,000 times.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matida
      Did you test your site? I am asking, because when I click on "try it here" I am being redirected to your website again and not to the affiliate product.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    That image looks familiar. Was there not a thread about this site a few days ago? If I remember correctly there were many posts in their that offered sound advice, much of which was focused on editing the language on the site to be more in line with proper English.

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    Edit: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6821629
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    • Profile picture of the author nudelkuchen
      Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

      That image looks familiar. Was there not a thread about this site a few days ago? If I remember correctly there were many posts in their that offered sound advice, much of which was focused on editing the language on the site to be more in line with proper English.

      BP

      Edit: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6821629
      Ive done that 2 days ago. The language is fixed and the screenshot is new but no one was answering to the old thread anymore


      Originally Posted by Matida View Post

      Did you test your site? I am asking, because when I click on "try it here" I am being redirected to your website again and not to the affiliate product.
      Is javascript turned off? Because the "try it here" link are just shaking the "Get started here" div
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  • Profile picture of the author evco8
    Tweak and Test my friend Tweak and Test. Yeah paid traffic is about testing, which requires a certain amount of money to properly test. If you have sufficient traffic and clicks and no conversions then there is something wrong with your page. If you truly feel you've tweaked and tested enough or money is an issue then don't throw all your money away. Pause the campaign and reassess what you're doing and decide whether to kill it and move on or tweak some more. For every 10 campaigns you'll find 1 or 2 winners that will make up for all your losses. Just stick with it. Don't quit. PPC is a rough game. It can clean you out if you're not careful
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    • Profile picture of the author nudelkuchen
      Originally Posted by evco8 View Post

      Tweak and Test my friend Tweak and Test. Yeah paid traffic is about testing, which requires a certain amount of money to properly test. If you have sufficient traffic and clicks and no conversions then there is something wrong with your page. If you truly feel you've tweaked and tested enough or money is an issue then don't throw all your money away. Pause the campaign and reassess what you're doing and decide whether to kill it and move on or tweak some more. For every 10 campaigns you'll find 1 or 2 winners that will make up for all your losses. Just stick with it. Don't quit. PPC is a rough game. It can clean you out if you're not careful
      Maybe your right and i should just move on i cant really improve the landing page without doing it completly new
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        What keywords are you targeting? That could also be an issue.

        If you want to get sneaky and take a risk, redirect your landing page for a day to the Dr. Drum site so that people never see your site. If you get some conversions, your site might be the problem. If not, there could be something else going on.

        Maybe your right and i should just move on i cant really improve the landing page without doing it completly new.
        They provide affiliates with 26 landing pages you can choose from, not to mention articles, images, video, etc. Doing it "completely new" shouldn't take any time at all.
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        • Profile picture of the author nudelkuchen
          Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

          What keywords are you targeting? That could also be an issue.

          If you want to get sneaky and take a risk, redirect your landing page for a day to the Dr. Drum site so that people never see your site. If you get some conversions, your site might be the problem. If not, there could be something else going on.



          They provide affiliates with 26 landing pages you can choose from, not to mention articles, images, video, etc. Doing it "completely new" shouldn't take any time at all.
          Maybe your right, but i really tryed my best with the website. I know it isnt looking that good but atleast 1 of the 700 clicks could have bought it. I cant imagine that if im going to take a finished Dr. Drum landing page anyone is going to try it, I whould just invest another 70$ for Advertisment

          Originally Posted by robg1 View Post

          I have just looked at the site and even though you say the language is fixed, it still isn't written properly which in my opinion would make people go off the page pretty quick.
          A friend of me was 1 year in america and told me that the language is fixed now, so it stil isnt reading fluent?
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          • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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            Originally Posted by nudelkuchen View Post

            Maybe your right, but i really tryed my best with the website. I know it isnt looking that good but atleast 1 of the 700 clicks could have bought it.
            And yet they didn't. Trying your best doesn't guarantee anything. No one owes you a sale because you tried your best. I can try my best a million times, but I will never dunk a basketball.

            By the way, I'm not surprised you haven't made any sales. When I click the "give it a try" link on your site, I'm not actually given an option to give it a try. If you want folks to give it a try, send them to the product when they click the link instead of trying to be cute with the opt in box. You probably have people clicking the link wondering why the heck they aren't going anywhere. Keep it simple.


            I cant imagine that if im going to take a finished Dr. Drum landing page anyone is going to try it, I whould just invest another 70$ for Advertisment
            Ok, then give up and move on to the next shiny object.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert93
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      If you truly feel you've tweaked and tested enough or money is an issue then don't throw all your money away. Pause the campaign and reassess what you're doing and decide whether to kill it and move on or tweak some more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexyew
    Originally Posted by nudelkuchen View Post

    Hey,

    I'm really asking myself how anybody can really get money out of Affiliate Marketing. I have to do something really wrong. Im trying to get just a single Sale since 1 Week ( 75$ AdWords + 19$ Domain + 10$ Facebook advertisment ) -> 600 Clicks -> 120 Hops ) but no success.
    How can I continue that? Im spending ~8$ per Day (80 Clicks) in AdWords that means I whould have to make 1 Sale per 2 Days but im not even doing a single Sale in 1 Week.

    Invested : 110$~
    Money gained : 0$

    My landing Page :


    So could anybode here tell me what im doing that wrong ?
    Hi,

    Did you buy this website from somewhere?

    My Frank opinion, the website is not attractive. English is not properly written (a lot of mistakes).

    If I were the visitor, I would just close the page.

    What you need to do:
    1. Hire someone to make a nice theme for your website
    2. Get someone to written a proper sales letter
    3. Learn how to optimize your page
    4. Get traffic by free and paid methods (of course you need to learn)

    With the above steps, you may get some income.

    Try, try, and try! Never give up!

    From,
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  • Profile picture of the author J50
    PPC cleans most people out because you generally need a good sized budget to conduct multiple tests. You're much better mastering free traffic methods first, and then using that to bank roll your more risker traffic methods. To me you're doing everything back to front anyway, stop trying to make a million dollars off the bat and just find something that converts. Once you've mastered it with free traffic, then and only then would I venture into more risker endeavours.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author robg1
    I have just looked at the site and even though you say the language is fixed, it still isn't written properly which in my opinion would make people go off the page pretty quick.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    no offense but it just looks like one of those pages that anything you click on is going to fill you up with viruses try removing all of the un related banners and see what happens.
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  • Profile picture of the author Abdullah Isa
    Also, to help contribute to the answers other Warriors have posted: your niche is rubbish.

    If you applied the same efforts to different niches it is likely you would see more results.

    The reason is simply because within the music production scene there are already too well established software which are used by everybody (fruityloops, reason, etc.) - It is a very competitive market to try and convince people to change from the software everybody else is using.

    Furthermore, the landing page isn't designed well at all - landing pages need to be eye-catching, hype, and highlighting the benefits of the product, highlighting the solutions and the problems they solve, in an impossible to miss manor.


    You can make money with affiliate marketing, as can anybody, however there is an art and science to affiliate marketing, as with anything.

    Keep making effort and you will become better, learn more and apply what you learn.

    Also try to stay away from the music related niches - I would recommend niches to do with money/credit, health/food, and education.

    I hope my answer was helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author robg1
      Originally Posted by Abdullah Isa View Post

      Also, to help contribute to the answers other Warriors have posted: your niche is rubbish.

      If you applied the same efforts to different niches it is likely you would see more results.

      The reason is simply because within the music production scene there are already too well established software which are used by everybody (fruityloops, reason, etc.) - It is a very competitive market to try and convince people to change from the software everybody else is using.

      Furthermore, the landing page isn't designed well at all - landing pages need to be eye-catching, hype, and highlighting the benefits of the product, highlighting the solutions and the problems they solve, in an impossible to miss manor.


      You can make money with affiliate marketing, as can anybody, however there is an art and science to affiliate marketing, as with anything.

      Keep making effort and you will become better, learn more and apply what you learn.

      Also try to stay away from the music related niches - I would recommend niches to do with money/credit, health/food, and education.

      I hope my answer was helpful.
      I have to agree with you on the music side of things. Up until a couple of years ago, I had been producing music from home for 15yrs and 'Dr. Drum' doesn't appear to do anything different to other similar programmes, plus IMO it is too cheap to be any good.
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    • Originally Posted by Abdullah Isa View Post

      Also, to help contribute to the answers other Warriors have posted: your niche is rubbish.

      If you applied the same efforts to different niches it is likely you would see more results.

      The reason is simply because within the music production scene there are already too well established software which are used by everybody (fruityloops, reason, etc.) - It is a very competitive market to try and convince people to change from the software everybody else is using.

      Furthermore, the landing page isn't designed well at all - landing pages need to be eye-catching, hype, and highlighting the benefits of the product, highlighting the solutions and the problems they solve, in an impossible to miss manor.


      You can make money with affiliate marketing, as can anybody, however there is an art and science to affiliate marketing, as with anything.

      Keep making effort and you will become better, learn more and apply what you learn.

      Also try to stay away from the music related niches - I would recommend niches to do with money/credit, health/food, and education.

      I hope my answer was helpful.

      Ahum..... Rubbish.... really!

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  • Profile picture of the author locke815
    I thin what you're lacking of is patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tanya E
    If you fail try and try again!

    You took action and got a result. The result may have been a failure in your eyes but it was a result. Take that result and look at what you can do differently to get another result and then another and then another until you succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author jvreview
    Continue to test what you're doing, once you fine tune it, you know it's going to work. After testing, even something as simple as redirecting to a good affiliate offer turned out to be profitable. There're some affiliate offers which get sales and almost all buyers request for refunds ... so we have to test and find out.
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  • Profile picture of the author nudelkuchen
    Ok guys ive got something new, how do you think about that?



    how do you think about that? Could that work out better? Even if there's a big button calling purchase now ? To less content?
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  • Profile picture of the author michaeljuly
    PPC is a rough game. It can clean you out if you're not careful.
    a good affiliate offer turned out to be profitable
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    • Profile picture of the author nudelkuchen
      Originally Posted by evco8 View Post

      PPC is a rough game. It can clean you out if you're not careful
      Originally Posted by jvreview View Post

      a good affiliate offer turned out to be profitable.
      Originally Posted by michaeljuly View Post

      PPC is a rough game. It can clean you out if you're not careful.
      a good affiliate offer turned out to be profitable
      Uhm why are you copying someone's text?
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  • Profile picture of the author alamest
    The following points are need to notice and changes.

    1) First all if your niche is make money online than don't promote in Google Adwords cause it is very competitive and not suitable for you at the moment with less investment. So change the niche, it is hard to change but if you change you will make money.

    2) The landing page is complicated, what is your goal when visitor land your page, if your goal is to collect there email and name than stop Google Adwords as they don't allow this any more.

    And build or hire to make a good landing page for your website and where should be only the headline, video, bullet points and the capture code, that's it and nothing else.

    And you have to keep on testing & tweaking your website to get what traffic converts and what does not convert.

    3) Focus on free marketing like article marketing, social media and so on, cause if you are new and have very little knowledge on paid marketing than I highly recommend you to focus on free traffic than paid traffic. In paid traffic you need to do many testing and tweaking before we get the final winning page but it will cost you more, some testing takes to $3000 to $4000 than people find the winning page. So that is the reason I am saying you to focus on FREE traffic.

    I hope my above 3 points should help you to understand and where to focus.
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    • Profile picture of the author nudelkuchen
      Originally Posted by alamest View Post

      The following points are need to notice and changes.

      1) First all if your niche is make money online than don't promote in Google Adwords cause it is very competitive and not suitable for you at the moment with less investment. So change the niche, it is hard to change but if you change you will make money.

      2) The landing page is complicated, what is your goal when visitor land your page, if your goal is to collect there email and name than stop Google Adwords as they don't allow this any more.

      And build or hire to make a good landing page for your website and where should be only the headline, video, bullet points and the capture code, that's it and nothing else.

      And you have to keep on testing & tweaking your website to get what traffic converts and what does not convert.

      3) Focus on free marketing like article marketing, social media and so on, cause if you are new and have very little knowledge on paid marketing than I highly recommend you to focus on free traffic than paid traffic. In paid traffic you need to do many testing and tweaking before we get the final winning page but it will cost you more, some testing takes to $3000 to $4000 than people find the winning page. So that is the reason I am saying you to focus on FREE traffic.

      I hope my above 3 points should help you to understand and where to focus.
      Hey , Thank you for your informations but have you noticed my new Landing page? How do you think about it?

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  • Profile picture of the author Lisha5684
    The grammar/wording is still not very good English. You may need some extra help with that... That could be part of it. Also most of the written content is very small. It almost doesn't look like an actual website, but just an image of a website.
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  • Profile picture of the author GSMarketing
    Hi,

    I've got to say I liked some of the old elements of your landing page, especially the 'this is what my music sounded like without Dr. Drum and this is what it sounds like now'.

    Also, why have you lost the opportunity to capture their emails on your new page? I think this is an integral element. However, I do think you were doing the email capture wrong on your initial page anyway.

    Why are you only offering them something only if they purchase a product? No offence, but your customers do not know you from Adam yet, why should they just go ahead and purchase the product in order to get your free tutorials? Nobody knows if your tutorials are any good, they may be a load of crap (i'm sure they're not but your customer does not know this).

    Just offer them a freebie straight out, something that solves a problem or gives them extra great content. Now I have no idea what this could be because I know NOTHING about music production but I'm sure you could deliver something. I'm sure you will gain more sign ups that way and then you can provide them with lots of great content (maybe videos of you using the software, sample tracks?) whilst still exposing them to your affiliate offer.

    As I say I know nothing about this niche so I'm not in a position to say if it is potentially profitable but I'm sure if you continue to make a go of it you will get there.

    Cheers

    G
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  • Profile picture of the author WinmanRoss
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    Edit the design of your page, make it look more sexy. Think of another ways to attract traffic (video marketing, forum advertising, etc).
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