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Is it even possible to outsource 100%?...The search for ultimate automation and freedom continues!

by TheSalesTechnician
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Is it really possible to outsource EVERYTHING?

Is it really possible to replace the human element?

I propose this scenario...

You are sitting at a desk, rolling around in your chair.

Website creation? Outsourced.
Article writing? Outsourced.

Micromanaging? Outsourced

Your only job is to sit there and create Ideas.

When you have an idea, you ring a bell and someone comes running in...

Yes Sir!

You tell them the idea.. then they take care of the rest.

You go back to rolling around in your chair and rubbing your two marbles together.

Now that's what I call automation!

Ive thought about this a lot.

But the problem is...everything seems to break down once you hire someone to replace yourself and do all the micromanaging for you.

The problem is...

Once you replace the human element completely, you make yourself vulnerable.

When you put someone charge of all your micromanaging...

You have pretty much handed that person the blueprint to your business on a silver platter.

Whats to stop that person from saying "Hey I don't need this guy, I can do this myself and have my OWN empire?".

After all... he knows everything you know now...why not?

This is the challenge of the ULTIMATE outsourced business...removing the human element.

There are a few workarounds which solve this problem but none Ive heard that are worthy of being called a "solution"

1. Before you hire your micro manager, you can give them a psych test and pre-quilify them based on their personality.

Using this data, and some statistics you can see rather or not this person would be the type of individual that will either work for you and keep their mouth shut or take your business model and run.

However due to the many unpredictable changing variables in a persons life, even this method is not full-proof.

2. You can offer an equal partnership to someone with LESS funds to invest in exchange for profit shares in your biz. In return for the shares that they cant afford to buy.. you allow them to work it off by micromanaging things.

But there are too many issues with this to even begin to cover.


So what do you do?

Who do you get to micromanage all your outsourcing for you and replacing the human element...

giving you ULTIMATE freedom?

How do you cross that last bridge and go from micromanaging.. to simply Idea creation!?

Ideas?
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    1. You can never be fully automated. You will always have to supervise those you outsource to.
    2. Never let the outsourcers have any clue how much money you are making.
    3. Throw them perks they would not expect. Anything to keep them loyal, but still in the dark about your finances.
    4. Hire multiple people to do different pieces of the puzzle, so no single outsourcer ever sees the entire blueprint.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheSalesTechnician
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      1. You can never be fully automated. You will always have to supervise those you outsource to..

      Brian, clearly you know your stuff. BUT...

      "Never" is a very powerful absolute. And as you know, absolutes like "never"...rarely belong in a universe of new and creative ideas.

      If that was the case we would have "never" landed on the moon or ...flying for example.

      So while I respect your post and am grateful for the tips (real good tips might I ad), I'm more interested in the possibilities that haven't been discussed on this matter.

      Got any new theories of how this may be possible?

      Even how we can get CLOSE to it?

      We can always start with...the closest you can get to it then go from there.

      thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author TheSalesTechnician
      OK... How about something more practical...can we reduce things down to a single button?

      Then, Ill just pay my wife 100 a day to click it
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      • Profile picture of the author owenlee
        Originally Posted by TheSalesTechnician View Post

        OK... How about something more practical...can we reduce things down to a single button?

        Then, Ill just pay my wife 100 a day to click it
        That is near to impossible..lol
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      • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
        Originally Posted by TheSalesTechnician View Post

        OK... How about something more practical...can we reduce things down to a single button?
        Sure, it's called owning stock. You click to buy it, then you sit back and wait. You will either make money or lose money, without ever having to run anything yourself. If you want to actually run the business, I don't think there's a single button that will do it, at least not successfully. Every person you hire to manage something would need to be managed themselves.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesse L
    well, you could marry someone that knows the ropes and have your partner do the dirty work. Or you could have someone sign a non compete agreement. If they take your idea then you sue.

    But giving it all away seems to remove you completely from the scene and thus takes "your" personality out of the business and replaces it with someone elses. Not to mention removing the thrill of the chase for yourself.

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  • Profile picture of the author OutsourceFactor
    "Is it really possible to outsource EVERYTHING?"

    It is possible but I think the real question is, "Is it a good idea to outsource everything?"

    I think that in any business, one should be more hands on. (Micromanaging)

    I outsource different tasks like article writing, report making, some promotional activities, and etc and have my employees check-in regularly with the use of Basecamp.

    For me, I don't really want to hire somebody to micromanage everything for me. Why let somebody do it, when you can do it yourself, right?

    So I don't really think that you can remove , as you say, the human element out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Warriors
    Is outsourcing everything even a good ideal to aspire to???

    Whatever happened to doing what you love?

    Does anyone really LOVE hunting down freelancers, supervising them, and selling their work marked up to clients, and NOTHING else?

    Sounds like a pretty thankless way to make a living to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    You'd have to hire a project manager to handle the tasks. This is according to the business model you presented in your opening statement relating to product creation, articles, etc.

    The best thing I think is to choose the least complicated business model with the least amount of steps to have an outsourced business. That's why in the brick & motar businesses , many say coin operated businesses are the best to own, so, that one can give themselves the best chance to be an absentee owner.

    Though, usually absentee owners have alot of resources and make enough profit margin to afford to have others handle their business. In the online space you only hear from owner operators, so, there seems to be no room for any other way around being involved in the business you created.

    In closing, I think the question has to be changed to "what business model gives me the best chance of freedom/freetime"?

    Let's work from that premise.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    I outsource:
    Website creation
    SEO and content
    Websites managemeny

    I don't outsource:
    Managing my paypal account and paying my VA's
    Niche research
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  • Profile picture of the author Jessica Lynn
    I really don't think you can outsource 100% of your business, to be honest. You're always going to have to communicate with at least part of your team. Plus, it's unlikely that you'll find anyone who cares about your business as much as you do.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      I watched an interview a few days ago where someone outsourced a 10K per month business.

      But obviously he knew how to do it himself and trained the VA to do everything.
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      • Profile picture of the author ivan4443
        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        I watched an interview a few days ago where someone outsourced a 10K per month business.

        But obviously he knew how to do it himself and trained the VA to do everything.

        Where did you watch it? Can you share a link if it was online?
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      • Profile picture of the author TheSalesTechnician
        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        I watched an interview a few days ago where someone outsourced a 10K per month business.

        But obviously he knew how to do it himself and trained the VA to do everything.

        link...???
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        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        I watched an interview a few days ago where someone outsourced a 10K per month business.

        But obviously he knew how to do it himself and trained the VA to do everything.
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    The biggest thing about this is no matter what, YOU are responsible to your clients. So you had better make darn sure that all goes well if you want to be paid.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zayne
    Love your thought processes mate, you seem to run along the same lines as what I think of!

    The idea of full automation is a dream i would say, because if there was a way to literally outsource everything (including idea creation etc) then there would be a clear blueprint to unlimited money, because with an automated infrastructure you just need to expand your metrics and you are rich right?

    I try to add a component to my business, then focus on automating it.

    For instance traffic, there are many ways to automatically outsource that so thats no worries, freeing up your time to start another business.

    I would be so bold as to say that you are always the "Golden Goose" that your business will always need.

    But try set yourself up for leaving for a few months at a time (see the 4 hour work week! ) and you will be happy enough to come back to work!

    Because someone else does the tedious work for you you always are happy to come back!

    PM me if you like, I enjoy outsourcing strategies and we can speak further if you like.

    Kind Regards

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  • Profile picture of the author shane_k
    Originally Posted by TheSalesTechnician View Post


    When you put someone charge of all your micromanaging...

    You have pretty much handed that person the blueprint to your business on a silver platter.

    Whats to stop that person from saying "Hey I don't need this guy, I can do this myself and have my OWN empire?".

    After all... he knows everything you know now...why not?

    I know alot of people are worried about this but it really is a non-issue.

    You have to remember that 99% of people that you hire have an employee mindset. All they are looking for is security, comfort, familiarity, a consistent paycheck, getting health and dental benefits, etc.

    They are not looking to start their own business. Not only that but they look at starting their own business as risky. So even if they are handed the blueprint to a business they will not do anything with it.


    Think about all the people you know in your life outside of this forum. If you were to give them the blueprint to your business, how many of them truly would try and run with it, and how many wouldn't do anything because they just want a steady paycheck?

    If you are still afraid of this, then just get the person you hire to sign a non-compete agreement.

    Seriously it is nothing to worry about at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheSalesTechnician
      Originally Posted by shane_k View Post

      I know alot of people are worried about this but it really is a non-issue.

      You have to remember that 99% of people that you hire have an employee mindset. All they are looking for is security, comfort, familiarity, a consistent paycheck, getting health and dental benefits, etc.

      They are not looking to start their own business. Not only that but they look at starting their own business as risky. So even if they are handed the blueprint to a business they will not do anything with it.


      Think about all the people you know in your life outside of this forum. If you were to give them the blueprint to your business, how many of them truly would try and run with it, and how many wouldn't do anything because they just want a steady paycheck?

      If you are still afraid of this, then just get the person you hire to sign a non-compete agreement.

      Seriously it is nothing to worry about at all.

      wow! What an extremely VALID point!!

      I can think of more than one person I have tried to HELP and gave them a blueprint even SHOWED them the money I was making and they did NOTHING!
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  • Profile picture of the author David Sneen
    The scenario you refer to is humorous.

    It might be realistic, except for one thing. Human nature can be very corrupt. "When the boss is away, the mice do play."

    Is it possible to have each niche covered and have a trusted manager in charge of everything? Hey, why not hire someone else to come up with the ideas, too!

    Of course, if it worked for you, others would copy you. Perhaps that trusted manager would start his own site...and steal everything from under your nose.
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    • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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      Originally Posted by David Sneen View Post

      Hey, why not hire someone else to come up with the ideas, too!
      Actually others do come up with the ideas in meetings, think tanks, and, creative development departments. I remember Barbara Corcoran said she rarely comes up with her own ideas. Networking is critical and using other peoples talent is her mantra.

      Food for thought for any sharks out there
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