Why isn't clickbank converting?

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This is a 30 day report for me...



Is this typical that I only made one sale from 223 hops?
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  • Profile picture of the author Meanna Blog
    (sorry the image is so big, i dont know how to reduce...)
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    • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
      I was just wondering the same thing.

      I am 1/583 for the week or most recently 0/284.

      Thankfully, I don't rely on CB as I simply do not trust the system but that is just me.
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      • Profile picture of the author askloz
        That's hard to judge without looking at your landing page. If you don't want to supply it here, you can send it to me via private message if you want and I'll take a look at it for you
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        • Profile picture of the author Meanna Blog
          Originally Posted by askloz View Post

          That's hard to judge without looking at your landing page. If you don't want to supply it here, you can send it to me via private message if you want and I'll take a look at it for you
          All of the hops apart from the spanish one come from adverts on this site:

          Make Money Online
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      • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
        You have to look at the hops that you have gotten to each individual product. If you have over 223 hops to one individual product then you may start wondering what you need to change (landing page, article content, PPC add) to get it to convert better. Or it may be that a product just doesn't convert that well.

        You're promoting 11 different products there but none of them have over 35 hops to it. If I could find ANY product that would convert at 1:35 consistantly I would be rich!

        You usally will convert at one sale for every 60-200 hops per product. Your 223 is the total of all your hops for all your products.
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  • I agree with Bryan's comments. But I would also say in general I have been having a negative experience with clickbank. My conversion rates have been shrinking and shrinking....
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    those particular things you promote are really, really tough. Correct me if i am wrong.

    I HARDLY have stellar success with mainstream items like Maverick's, fat4idiots and whatever everyone and their mama sells already. Market too saturated, bids on PPC just WAYYYYYYYYY too high..the math doesnt work if you pay $0.80 click for some "green energy" produdt where you need 30,50,70 clicks to make $30.

    CB is and always was good for smaller niches where there is not much competition. At least for me.

    ALSO.....if you make a good and legit REVIEW page (like i started doing) instead of directing right to the vendor page...your conversions will drop from 1:80 - 1:100 to maybe 1:25!!
    A "pre-sell" review page does wonders!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Trader54
    And not knowing the traffic source or keywords targeted its meaningless.

    I can imagine some are sending info like this to clickbank and asking them to investigate as to what the problem is.

    It would be a total waste of time on their part.
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  • Profile picture of the author Meanna Blog
    Yeah, I think the key is to probably focus more on another niche site I have...
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  • Profile picture of the author stevecl
    well, its a simple answer of not selling to your audience. Your blog is very good but it doesn't make me want to buy anything. I would hazard guess that all your hops are curiosity clicks.

    The spanish course is an easy sell as you are targeting people that want to learn spanish.

    Not to sure what you want me to do on your blog - read it or buy something?

    If your going to tempt people to buy something how about some useful proof that it worked for you - pre sell as already suggested, don't just copy the bullet points. Tell me why i should buy, how will it help me and why should i buy from you???

    My 2 cents

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  • Profile picture of the author nick1123
    Okay, I think there are several factors to look at.

    First the conversion rate of different products can dramatically vary.

    Try experimenting with other niches and other products. Typically things were items with a high gravity convert better than those with a low gravity.

    Secondly, is the traffic that you are sending highly targeted? Are the people you are sending to the product highly motivated individuals who are eager to purchase? If not, your conversions will suck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Meanna Blog
    So how does someone like JOhn CHow make so much money with his affiliate marketing blog?

    Blog Income Report - January 2008 | John Chow dot Com

    He must get STACKS of curiousity clicks because he's got the same ads as most other Make MOney Online bloggers...
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      I don't know...I just ran my report for my affiliate campaigns (reporting
      by vendor) and I'm converting 1 sale for every 46.65 hops.

      This has been pretty consistent for me since day 1 that I started using
      Clickbank over 6 years ago.

      Is your change recent or has it been like this since you started?

      It could be a number of factors and without knowing more details, there
      is no way to be able to tell you what the problem is.
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      • Profile picture of the author Trader54
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        I don't know...I just ran my report for my affiliate campaigns (reporting
        by vendor) and I'm converting 1 sale for every 46.65 hops.
        Now someone will say they just recorded 52 hops and no sale ..... clickbank has ripped them off once again .... LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnHuizinga
    When I made my first sale, Clickbank told me it had taken 16 hops.

    But Google analytics said I had sent over 25 hops (and I didn't start tracking my hops right away so it must have been more).
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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    You usally will convert at one sale for every 60-200 hops per product. Your 223 is the total of all your hops for all your products.
    Statistics and probability theory doesn't work that way.

    If products typically convert at 1:100 and you send 1 hop a day to hundred different products, statistically on average you will get a sale everyday.
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    • Profile picture of the author ADAMw3
      Originally Posted by Stallion View Post

      Statistics and probability theory doesn't work that way.

      If products typically convert at 1:100 and you send 1 hop a day to hundred different products, statistically on average you will get a sale everyday.
      That's assuming all the sales pages are equal and constant. You are also wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author bangaram12
    hey thats really good. don't count all the hops. for 35 hops you got 1 sale which is really nice. you concentrate more on that product and leaving all other.
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    You have too little data to determine anything.

    You have one program that has so far converted at 1 in 35, the rest still haven't resulted in any conversions so you can't make a judgment on them. You haven't even sent 50 clicks to any single program.

    Typically, I expect about a 1% conversion rate but your traffic is coming from banner ads on a blog so I would expect that to be even lower.

    In short, you're expecting too much too soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek Pankaew
    Your EPC of 0.30 is probably around where it should be.

    Cheers,

    - Derek
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  • Profile picture of the author Lindsay Brynn
    I agree that there is not enough data. Although I haven't been using clickbank as long as Steven I have consistently seen about 1 in 50 or so.
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  • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
    Got to agree with Steven and lindsay most of the products that convert well for me are 1-40 or 1-50 60c per hop is pretty normal. All traffic comes via reviews or related articles
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
    Bryan is right- it's not realistic to send 20 or 30 visitors to a page and expect a sale. Some products do convert that well, but I would send 200 to a specific product before concluding that the product was a dud.

    The recession is just an excuse people are using. Yes, it is real, but the idea that people aren't buying anything is just wrong. One of my Clickbank products just had its best week in about a year- it has nothing to do with making or saving money, and is not seasonal, so how do you explain that one?

    It's also untrue that CB is not tracking affiliate sales, since some of my products are mostly sold by affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author bannor32
    I'm asking myself the same question. I send steady traffic to a 3 review style landing page, and up until 2 months ago that steady traffic yielded steady sales. Yet over the last 60 days sales have completely dried up. I haven't altered the landing page at all, so I really can't say what the problem is. The economy has to bear some of the blame. People are just that much more careful with their money right now. However, I am slowly starting to subscribe to the increasingly popular theory that there is something seriously wrong with Clickbank's tracking system.
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    • Profile picture of the author DeadGuy
      100-200 hops per sale is about right. There may be multiple reasons that account for the drop off. Competition, the economy and maybe even bad press. You might want to do some trending research as well. Remember. These products are no different than an employee and they are supposed to be working for you. If they fail to perform, fire them and find others.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Your photo shows a 1/35 conversion rate on a product. Am I missing something here? That's a great conversion rate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      Your photo shows a 1/35 conversion rate on a product. Am I missing something here? That's a great conversion rate.

      Yea, that would be a great conversion rate if he had 10 sales and 350 hops, but 1 sale out of only 35 hops is not a real conversion rate. He may have just got that 1 person who was ready to buy and came across his site.

      Show me 350 hops and 10 sales and i'll say it's a good conversion rate, but there's still nothing that says it's going to stay like that......but i'd keep promoting it and find out.
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  • Profile picture of the author jtgill
    My report for the last 30 days shows:
    No Tracking Code, 48 Hops and everything else is Zeros.
    I'm assuming I just need to be patient and keep marketing my link until I see some results?
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  • Profile picture of the author Meanna Blog
    Thanks for all the ecouragement guys. Looks like I just need to focus on the traffic for the one that sells and get more people onto the product.

    Cheers
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