Somebody is copying my entire website EXACTLY!

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I have just recently launched a new website.

It's a sales page website with a squeeze page and afterward sales page (pretty olde school), and I checked my stats, and the top referral traffic source was from this one website...

When I went to check the site out, I'm shocked that it is the EXACT same website on a completely different domain name posing as mine!

LITERALLY! The same font, font size, color, background, everything!

The exact same website on a different domain name.

I don't know how they go access to the code (probably from view source), but it's the same site of mine.

But another dilemma is, that is where majority of traffic is coming from but downside it's duplicated content.

Tough predicament I'm in...

What should I do?

If I were to report it, who/where should I go?
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  • You could start by entering the domain name here: Whois Lookup & IP | Whois.net
    And see if it shows you anymore information on who the registrant of the domain is, and also which company hosts the site. Try that first and see if you can take it from there.


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  • Profile picture of the author intergen
    Yes I had this happen at a company I was working at. We checked Whois found their info & called them. Then sent a cease & desist letter. It worked the site was taken down - it helped that they were in the U.S.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason H
    I did...apparently it's some person or host in China.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Jason H View Post

      I did...apparently it's some person or host in China.
      That's unfortunate. They're not likely to honor a DMCA
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  • You mentioned its a sales page. Is there a payment option? If so, try contacting the payment provider that they are using.


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  • Profile picture of the author NicoleElmore
    Hi Jason,

    Do you mind me asking how you found the other site that was copying yours?

    Maybe we could all learn something to prevent that on our side.

    Is your site hosted by wordpress? They have a copyright plugin that you could install that would not allow people to copy any content or images from your site. Unless someone knows how to hack it of course. =/

    Hope you get the situation straightened out soon. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason H
      Originally Posted by NicoleElmore View Post

      Hi Jason,

      Do you mind me asking how you found the other site that was copying yours?

      Maybe we could all learn something to prevent that on our side.

      Is your site hosted by wordpress? They have a copyright plugin that you could install that would not allow people to copy any content or images from your site. Unless someone knows how to hack it of course. =/

      Hope you get the situation straightened out soon. Good luck.
      As I said, this is a new site I just launched.

      I found out about through my website stat, and this site is the highest referral traffic source.

      So I went to view their site, and that's how I found it was an exact clone of my website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I see why some people upload their whole sales letter in the form of an image.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    Assuming there is direct copying of significant text from your webpage, you can have this other site removed from Google by filing a DMCA complaint with them. That'll help even if they're in China so you can't go after the site directly.

    https://www.google.com/webmasters/to...ce?pli=1&&rd=1
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  • Unfortunately this happens all the time. I have had the same exact same thing happen to the first sales letter I ever wrote. I was a little flattered actually lol.

    In any case, yes a cease & desist letter should do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason H
    Another thing is...it's not a WordPress site but built on Dreamweaver simple html site for a simple sales letter.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Marden
    Wow..sorry to hear about that..can you keep us posted on what happens? I'm curious as to the outcome
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  • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
    Why is there traffic coming from it to yours? I guess you used the full urls in places?

    Since they left those in, and if they haven't set up some way to make money for themselves, it's probably just kiddies playing around.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason H
      Originally Posted by Lloyd Buchinski View Post

      Why is there traffic coming from it to yours? I guess you used the full urls in places?

      Since they left those in, and if they haven't set up some way to make money for themselves, it's probably just kiddies playing around.
      That's the thing...I am getting the most traffic from this clone site, but once again it's duplicate content form mine so I don't want this to affect my site.
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    Fill out a DMCA form and send to their HOST to shut them down. Also, contact his domain registrar

    Hit them where it hurts. Emailing the owner of the site (who's probably hiding under whois privacy anyway) will just lead to you crying up the wrong tree.

    Make it HURT for them
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason H
    What's even weird...

    is that I just updated my site completely, and I immediately check this exact cloned site of mine on its domain, and I'm shocked by how it's all of a sudden updated as well!

    At first I thought, they were simply copying and pasting the code from "View Source" but now I think it's somehow connected to my site and his.

    What is going on?
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    • Originally Posted by Jason H View Post

      What's even weird...

      At first I thought, they were simply copying and pasting the code from "View Source" but now I think it's somehow connected to my site and his.

      What is going on?
      Might be using an automated tool to scrape your website data or RSS feed might be helping him/her.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonli
    thats really crap balls.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kreator517
    Are the copiers selling the same thing you are? Do they have a payment option?

    If they're not profiting from your content, and you're getting traffic from them, it sounds to me like you're getting ALL the benefits of a Super affiliate without having to share revenue with them!

    FYI, if there is identical content on a separate url, Google reads it as SYNDICATED content as opposed to DUPLICATE content. The difference? No penalty.

    Why anyone would go through all the trouble of copying your website and getting you traffic, I can't say. Prolly just Kids Playing around as Buchinski says.

    That would explain the whole weird fact that the clone auto-updates off your site. Possible kiddie hacker bragging rights exploit.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason H
      Originally Posted by Kreator517 View Post

      Are the copiers selling the same thing you are? Do they have a payment option?

      If they're not profiting from your content, and you're getting traffic from them, it sounds to me like you're getting ALL the benefits of a Super affiliate without having to share revenue with them!

      FYI, if there is identical content on a separate url, Google reads it as SYNDICATED content as opposed to DUPLICATE content. The difference? No penalty.

      Why anyone would go through all the trouble of copying your website and getting you traffic, I can't say. Prolly just Kids Playing around as Buchinski says.

      That would explain the whole weird fact that the clone auto-updates off your site. Possible kiddie hacker bragging rights exploit.
      Very insightful.

      Never heard of identical content on different domain name being viewed as syndicated content as you said because I was under the impression that was duplicate content.

      So you're saying my site was HACKED?

      So there must be a security loophole. What should I do now to break off the link connection between my site and their domain site...because of the auto update of this clone site immediately after I update my site?

      I'm more concern about fixing this security issue and breaking off this auto-update connection than reporting them.
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      • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
        You say that when you make changes on your site then the other site changes.

        It sounds like they might be using something link an iframe to display your content in that case you won't lose sales.

        you can test it by clearing your cache changing something on your site then checking theirs if it's immediately changed it's an iframe of something similar.


        I once had someone copy my salespage put their paypal button on it and promote it via pay dot com luckily it was picked for someones promotion of the day and I was on the list so spotted it immediatly
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        • Profile picture of the author Jason H
          Originally Posted by M Thompson View Post

          You say that when you make changes on your site then the other site changes.

          It sounds like they might be using something link an iframe to display your content in that case you won't lose sales.

          you can test it by clearing your cache changing something on your site then checking theirs if it's immediately changed it's an iframe of something similar.


          I once had someone copy my salespage put their paypal button on it and promote it via pay dot com luckily it was picked for someones promotion of the day and I was on the list so spotted it immediatly
          Thompson, what do you mean by iframe? I never heard of that before. Was this caused from a hack?

          Yes, at first I thought they went through all the trouble of "View Source" of all my pages and copied and upload them...

          But since I just completely updated a page, then instantly went to that same file-name after their domain name, it was already updated within seconds of me updating mine.

          What happened with your incident?

          What do you recommend to take action from here?
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Silvey
        Try changing your RRS feed.

        Update spider visit dates, or ping. This way your content will get indexed before theirs.

        If they are copying everything. Throw backlinks to your site on every post.
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    Go For Google DMCA. Then send a DMCA to web host.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I don't get what the problem is here.

    It sounds like someone just put your site in an iframe (their URL gets loaded but shows your site) and the reason you're getting all the traffic is because it's your site that they're showing to people.

    In this case - they get no benefit and you have no down-side, so why are you worrying about it?

    Rather than just worrying that there's something you don't understand going on and thinking it's bad - why not just look at it this way........

    What negative impact is it having on your site?

    Sounds like nothing - except increased traffic. If you're ok with that - where's the problem?

    You don't seem to understand the technical stuff, so all you really need to care about is - do people that go to this other URL still get to your payment button / signup page?

    If they do - you don't have a problem, just a lazy promoter.
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    nothing to see here.

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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      I don't get what the problem is here.

      It sounds like someone just put your site in an iframe (their URL gets loaded but shows your site) and the reason you're getting all the traffic is because it's your site that they're showing to people.

      In this case - they get no benefit and you have no down-side, so why are you worrying about it?

      Rather than just worrying that there's something you don't understand going on and thinking it's bad - why not just look at it this way........

      What negative impact is it having on your site?

      Sounds like nothing - except increased traffic. If you're ok with that - where's the problem?

      You don't seem to understand the technical stuff, so all you really need to care about is - do people that go to this other URL still get to your payment button / signup page?

      If they do - you don't have a problem, just a lazy promoter.
      I kind of agree.

      Are you losing sales, money or traffic.

      If no, who cares.
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  • Profile picture of the author David James
    If you opt in on 'their' site do you get the subscriber?
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  • Profile picture of the author jakifou
    Send a DMCA to web host from the Google DMCA
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  • Profile picture of the author allsetwin
    Hi Jason, I found a great resource for reporting Internet Investment Fraud/Ponzi/Scams. Check links to National and International regulatory agencies here at www eagleresearchassociates.org
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  • Profile picture of the author Ismael Zarruqui
    One of the problems that we usually find in the world of Internet marketing, is that there are many people who steals the content without at least giving a back link to the original source.

    Apart from this, copying content and posting it on another website is not going to help anyone.Search engine will slap you because of duplicate content issue..

    But that's another story ...

    How to prevent your content from being copied.

    There are several options ... ....

    And a very interesting ... is this:


    Step 1 If you have a Non-wordpress website but still want to prevent people from selecting any part of the text from your website, you can do so by posting a small Javascript code in your post .

    Step 2 With an image editing program, create a small transparent gif with no height or width. Keep it under a name for example thief.gif
    Then insert it into your post. One option is by using this code:

    <img src="http://www.yourdomain.com/thief.gif">

    Step 3 When thief copy the contents, they often do by copying and pasting the content of your post. Without knowing it .. also copied this transparent small pixel ...

    You just have to upload to your server another image named the same, but instead of the white square, will be for example :





    What effect does this have? Well automatically, the white square in the post stolen, become an embarassing large image ...what a shame !!!

    Interesting and funny .. no?
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by margenia View Post


      copying content and posting it on another website is not going to help anyone.Search engine will slap you because of duplicate content issue..

      But that's another story ...

      It's also wrong.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ismael Zarruqui
        Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

        It's also wrong.
        Can you explain why it's wrong ?

        What Matt Cutts said :

        "The same content in English is different than the same content in French. So, if you had identical content in English, and then in English again, in theory, that's duplicate content, and we might only want to return one copy of the English content. But if you have English here and French here, it's really quite different."

        "Now, one thing to be aware about, is if you have written that content yourself - so you've written it for English, you've written it in French, or you've had it translated by hand for French, everything's great. The world is good. Life is rosy. Be happy. But if what you've done is taken the English copy for your website, and thrown it into Google Translate, and done nothing more than auto-translate it into a bunch of different languages, that can be considered spamming, because in essence, it's auto-generated. It hasn't had a human's eyes looking at it, figuring out what the idioms are, polishing it - that sort of thing."
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        • Profile picture of the author amin-lelieveld
          I would contact them what they do to generate all this traffic or simply ask them to change their website.

          I wouldn't worry to much.

          Keep us updated,

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  • Profile picture of the author Jason H
    As an update, I type in the domain url for my site...and instead of having my site come up on Google, this copycat stealer is domain is coming up top of Google.

    The problem is this person is using some redirect on a domain name older than my domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinlairre
    My idea would be that first you should assess whether it is helping your sales/profits or if it is eating away from your profits or causing you any harm. If it is helping you profit - then maybe you might just ignore it.

    If however, it is causing you any harm or affecting your profits, then you could probably contact Clickbank or whichever affiliate network you are using, and they could probably cut off the guys commissions. I know in Clickbank it is against their policy for promoters to be using such methods for promoting. If your using a different network, maybe your network could also help you out - try contacting them and asking them for help.

    If the guy can't make any money, there is no reason for him to put any effort to maintain and keep his site alive.
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