by Adie
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Early last year, I created a blog selling amazon kindle covers and accessories. The domain has "kindle covers" on it and I only posted 10 articles/product reviews in 1 month. I abandoned the blog for more than 4 months after a massive backlinking and seeing no immediate result (I thought I had no patience). Once almost every page ranked in Google (mostly page 1 and 2), sales started to pour and to my surprise, after 5 months, I average around $120/month in kindle covers alone (not to mention other non-related products).

Last January, I started to focus my attention on the site and posted more review articles. It was hit by Penguin last February until May and sales had dropped dramatically when every pages disappeared from Google pages. I managed to manipulate the content and starting late June, sales goes up again.

It's August 30 now and this is so far my biggest Amazon month when the site sold more than 300 covers and a dozen of kindle devices plus a number of non related products ranging from dildos, books, toys, even power tools, and even fitness equipment (the most expensive non-related product it sold).

This year, my plan is to create a big site dedicated only to selling amazon products in almost every category. I tried several amazon wordpress theme during my trial and error, but most of them uses wprobot so they are not for me. 100% of my reviews are unique and using any robot would only hurt my SEO.

Although the listbuilding is somewhat irrelevant when running an Amazon review site, the result is hard to imagine when it's already happening......

To those who says Amazon is a waste of time because of small % commission, I strongly suggest you try before making ridiculous comments.... I just realized this after reducing my commitment with Adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author banx63
    Great story, some interesting sales!

    I have just launched an Amazon site, not going to go crazy with it just going to see what happens. Is all your traffic organic? Or do you do some cpc stuff?


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    • Profile picture of the author Adie
      Originally Posted by banx63 View Post

      Great story, some interesting sales!

      I have just launched an Amazon site, not going to go crazy with it just going to see what happens. Is all your traffic organic? Or do you do some cpc stuff?


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      No CPC.. I never laid any of my fingers in paid advertising ever since I learned running a site.. All organic and traffic from related blogs through my comments...

      Originally Posted by braincandy7 View Post

      good work

      amazon is not a waste of time i agree. they do the selling for you and although 4% is not a great deal it does very quickly escalate to 6%, 6.5% which makes a great difference.
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      I just made it to 6% this month. The additional 2% against previous month's 4% has a big impact on my total advertising fees.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Well, that's good news for you. Congrats on your success with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author braincandy7
    good work

    amazon is not a waste of time i agree. they do the selling for you and although 4% is not a great deal it does very quickly escalate to 6%, 6.5% which makes a great difference.

    Create sites selling smaller items which people buy in greater numbers then once you have a consistent 20-30 sales coming in per month release your sites selling larger sale items and your profits increase dramatically per sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
    Originally Posted by Adie View Post

    ranging from dildos, books, toys, even power tools,
    Aren't they the same thing ^^

    Originally Posted by Adie View Post

    100% of my reviews are unique and using any robot would only hurt my SEO.
    I actually plan to setup an experiment using WP Robot and GSA SER to see how effective it can be. Although Googles updates have made things trickier, auto blogs and auto generated content has come a long way as well. We'll see what happens

    Originally Posted by Adie View Post

    Although the listbuilding is somewhat irrelevant when running an Amazon review site,
    I do not believe for a second that list building is irrelevant with these kind of sites.

    If your building sites target specific product categorys, for example 'laptops' you could offer things like 'The buyers guide to laptops' (with your aff links) and then send out 'Laptop Deals Of The Month' type emails.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adie
      Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

      I do not believe for a second that list building is irrelevant with these kind of sites.

      If your building sites target specific product categorys, for example 'laptops' you could offer things like 'The buyers guide to laptops' (with your aff links) and then send out 'Laptop Deals Of The Month' type emails.
      I never put any opt in form in my site as I don't want to divert my visitors' attention...
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
        Originally Posted by Adie View Post

        I never put any opt in form in my site as I don't want to divert my visitors' attention...
        Use an exit pop-up. They'd be leaving your site anyway and likely never coming back, so it wouldn't hurt to try and capture some of that exit traffic with a free report.
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          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          Use an exit pop-up. They'd be leaving your site anyway and likely never coming back, so it wouldn't hurt to try and capture some of that exit traffic with a free report.
          That also ensures I will never return to the site if I see it again
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          • Profile picture of the author BiggyJ
            Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

            That also ensures I will never return to the site if I see it again
            There are those realy annoying ones, that you have to close 10 times to exit the website, but I think adding the single offer axtually does improve the opt-in rates. You don't have to return to the website, if I already have your email I will find a way to monetize you. LOL
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            • Profile picture of the author dcristo
              Originally Posted by BiggyJ View Post

              You don't have to return to the website, if I already have your email I will find a way to monetize you. LOL
              Getting the email address is only part of the sales funnel it doesn't guarantee anything. If your using in your face marketing tactics like exit popups it will likely affect the way the visitor perceives you. They were willing to offer their email address because you were giving something for free.
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      • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
        Originally Posted by Adie View Post

        I never put any opt in form in my site as I don't want to divert my visitors' attention...
        I think your missing out on a huge chunk of change sir

        Build a list of people with commercial intent/shoppers is very lucrative especially throughout key times of the year such as Christmas.

        The person that has signed up for the best laptop deals is also the person that will be buying tech at christmas and gifts around valentines day.

        Yes getting them to sign up to an e-mail stops them clicking 1 affiliate link. But getting them to signup to an email gets them to click a lot more than 1 affiliate link.

        You could even have the opt in box offer the top laptop deals just enter your email, and when they enter their email forward them through your affiliate link to the top laptop deals on amazon. Or build a page with the top laptop deals on to forward them to so you capture the e-mail in the process.

        People love taking action when they are told to do so.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Alderson
    That's awesome. You should stick with that plan and don't get side tracked on other systems, tools, etc.

    FOCUS, FOCUS, FOCUS!

    You'll make more money by doing so.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Should I interrupt a customer who is leaving my site and going to Amazon to buy something? Sounds not logical to me.... As I said, I don't want to interrupt my visitors' attention.... I build lists but not through this site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      Should I interrupt a customer who is leaving my site and going to Amazon to buy something? Sounds not logical to me.... As I said, I don't want to interrupt my visitors' attention.... I build lists but not through this site.
      That's not what I meant. Maybe an exit pop-up wouldn't be the best idea if it couldn't be configured to not interrupt your Amazon visitors. Still, you are missing out on a huge opportunity by not trying to capture their email. The fortune is in the follow up.

      Do whatever you think is best, though. I'm just chiming in. :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author Adie
        Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

        That's not what I meant. Maybe an exit pop-up wouldn't be the best idea if it couldn't be configured to not interrupt your Amazon visitors. Still, you are missing out on a huge opportunity by not trying to capture their email. The fortune is in the follow up.

        Do whatever you think is best, though. I'm just chiming in. :-)
        Let me clarify. When you say "exit", you mean the visitor is closing the site and not clicking any outgoing link,. right? If that is what you mean then you have a point... Am I right?
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
          Originally Posted by Adie View Post

          Let me clarify. When you say "exit", you mean the visitor is closing the site and not clicking any outgoing link,. right? If that is what you mean then you have a point... Am I right?
          Hi Adie,

          Yes, that's what I mean, but I'm not sure if there's an exit pop-up plugin/software that will work like that. You definitely don't want to mess with your conversions, but normally a site will lose many more visitors than those that actually buy something. By building a list you could very likely increase your long term conversions and build an asset that Google can't touch, in the event you lose your rankings.

          I'd at least add an entry "pop-in" with a great freebie offer. You can get a nice ecover graphic at Fiverr.com for $5.00 too to make it more enticing.

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          • Profile picture of the author Daniel R
            That´s great, keep up the good work and hope you keep improving your results and don´t forget to share!
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        • Profile picture of the author DZainein
          Originally Posted by Adie View Post

          Let me clarify. When you say "exit", you mean the visitor is closing the site and not clicking any outgoing link,. right? If that is what you mean then you have a point... Am I right?
          You do have a point here
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        • Profile picture of the author Adie
          Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

          Not necessarily true! Amazon traffic converts much better then Google traffic, they are there ready to buy so if they are going to click to Amazon from your site then I would definitely not put up a road block.
          I agree. People who search for "buyer keywords" always ended-up landing to amazon website. I will maintain my site and will never put any opt-in form...
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  • Profile picture of the author InFluenCo
    You definitely should focus on capturing the traffic coming to your site. You can do so with a free report containing your affiliate links. So you have a site selling kindle covers. You create a short guide 10 best and cheapest kindle covers or things like that. You put short blurbs about what you think are the best kindle covers with affiliate links to amazon in the report.

    You put this report as a gift after opt in. You capture first time visitors and you can email this list from now and then with deals of the day and bestsellers from amazon to earn money. This is how you reach a 5 figure monthly income from amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trivum
    Nice job.

    Originally Posted by Adie View Post

    I managed to manipulate the content and starting late June, sales goes up again.
    What do you mean here by manipulate the content? What did you do to turn things around?
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    • Profile picture of the author Adie
      Originally Posted by Trivum View Post

      Nice job.



      What do you mean here by manipulate the content? What did you do to turn things around?
      I mean I made changes like reducing the keyword density, correcting grammar errors, cloaking affiliate links, putting subtitles, etc.
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      • Profile picture of the author thedog
        Good job, I think getting your on page seo right is half the battle.

        I also love those unrelated high ticket sales. A lot of times, people just go on a little shopping spree.
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      • Profile picture of the author ArielT
        Originally Posted by Adie View Post

        I mean I made changes like reducing the keyword density, correcting grammar errors, cloaking affiliate links, putting subtitles, etc.
        Very good post man, I have a question, I understand amazon doesn't allow cloaking links, do you think is allowed?

        I ask you because after all I'm not 100% sure
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        • Profile picture of the author Adie
          Originally Posted by ArielT View Post

          Very good post man, I have a question, I understand amazon doesn't allow cloaking links, do you think is allowed?

          I ask you because after all I'm not 100% sure
          I use pretty links plugin; not other external cloaking services.
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  • Profile picture of the author Weedy92
    Originally Posted by Adie View Post

    To those who says Amazon is a waste of time because of small % commission, I strongly suggest you try before making ridiculous comments.... I just realized this after reducing my commitment with Adsense.
    I have a single site pulling in over $3K/month with Amazon by itself, so I had to comment on your last message there because you're right. There's serious money to made on Amazon, it's one of my favorite ways to profit.. Adsense is still queen for sponsorship banner ads on my sites, but it doesn't earn as much as Amazon when stacked side by side.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketerSPB
    I have a single site pulling in over $3K/month with Amazon by itself, so I had to comment on your last message there because you're right.
    Can you share anymore about this? What niche is it? Organic traffic? Would you be willing to share the site?
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    I am now working on a big Amazon shopping site similar to this one here: thisiswhyimbroke.com
    I set-aside everything just top focus on this one and I know after few months I'll sit pretty waiting for Amazon checks... So to those asking what niche, well I can say "everything"...
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    • Profile picture of the author Weedy92
      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      I am now working on a big Amazon shopping site similar to this one here: thisiswhyimbroke.com
      I set-aside everything just top focus on this one and I know after few months I'll sit pretty waiting for Amazon checks... So to those asking what niche, well I can say "everything"...
      Good market to be in, can't really die off from one product or target market.
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    • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      I am now working on a big Amazon shopping site similar to this one here: thisiswhyimbroke.com
      I set-aside everything just top focus on this one and I know after few months I'll sit pretty waiting for Amazon checks... So to those asking what niche, well I can say "everything"...
      As a word of warning don't put all of your eggs in one basket with this. While it is great to build a larger site that attracts a lot of traffic and generates a lot of income it does carry greater risk.

      I know an affilaite that went from doing £2,000-£4,000 per day to barely scathing £10 a day in the blink of an eye when the first Panda update dropped.

      Luckily he has residual income from other sites but if he relyed on that income to pay the bills he would of been in a very difficult position.
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      • Profile picture of the author ArielT
        Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

        As a word of warning don't put all of your eggs in one basket with this. While it is great to build a larger site that attracts a lot of traffic and generates a lot of income it does carry greater risk.

        I know an affilaite that went from doing £2,000-£4,000 per day to barely scathing £10 a day in the blink of an eye when the first Panda update dropped.

        Luckily he has residual income from other sites but if he relyed on that income to pay the bills he would of been in a very difficult position.
        It seems was very high amount/successful site, interesting
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    • Profile picture of the author ldiaz117
      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      I am now working on a big Amazon shopping site similar to this one here: thisiswhyimbroke.com
      I set-aside everything just top focus on this one and I know after few months I'll sit pretty waiting for Amazon checks... So to those asking what niche, well I can say "everything"...
      Too many have bitten off the tiwib.com site. I'd try something else Or create your own twist to it
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  • Profile picture of the author chica guapa
    I have never done anything with Amazon but I keep reading about the success several people on the warrior forum are having with it. So I have come to the conclusion that it might not be a bad thing to add it to my marketing arsenal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Congrats on your success. Many people find putting up Amazon sites a hassle, but you clearly know what you are doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trevor
    People saying that Amazon is a waste of time due to the low commission rate simply don't know what they are talking about. Amazon products (provivided you pick high-quality products) convert great and if you know what you are doing, you can make a lot of money as an Amazon Associate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

    As a word of warning don't put all of your eggs in one basket with this. While it is great to build a larger site that attracts a lot of traffic and generates a lot of income it does carry greater risk.

    I know an affilaite that went from doing £2,000-£4,000 per day to barely scathing £10 a day in the blink of an eye when the first Panda update dropped.

    Luckily he has residual income from other sites but if he relyed on that income to pay the bills he would of been in a very difficult position.
    I know and understand exactly what you mean. I already figured out long ago what types of sites are always hit by Panda/Penguin and what types are not... Most company/business websites are not affected by these updates. Only moneymaking sites are mostly affected...
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    • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      I know and understand exactly what you mean. I already figured out long ago what types of sites are always hit by Panda/Penguin and what types are not... Most company/business websites are not affected by these updates. Only moneymaking sites are mostly affected...
      While it was an affiliate site it is a very well thought out site, think of something like moneysupermarket.com or comparethemarket.com

      It wasn't just a fly by night affiliate business
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      • Profile picture of the author Adie
        Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

        While it was an affiliate site it is a very well thought out site, think of something like moneysupermarket.com or comparethemarket.com

        It wasn't just a fly by night affiliate business
        I see...well, I can't really tell but of course there is always a solution for that. One of my CPA sites is doing a seesaw now.. sometimes on first page and sometimes nothing at all...I already changed everything but I think it'll; take time to get stabilized..

        Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

        This may not be something to be concerned about but when it comes to being an Amazon affiliate is there ever any concern that Amazon may drop more affiliates in different states?

        They've already dropped affiliates in: North Carolina, Illinois, Colorado, Rhode Island, and New York. Even California had been dropped but was later reinstated.

        The point I'm trying to make is should Amazon affiliates be concerned? And if so, do Amazon affiliates have a "back up plan" just in case that does happen/an alternative for monetization if their state is ever dropped or if the Amazon affiliate program is ever dropped altogether?

        I heard about that news last year and I feel sorry for those fellow affiliates living in those states. I heard others were migrated to another states. I am not in US so I can't really tell..
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Branson
    Amazon it's not a waste of time at all we have 72 amazon websites and 60 websites are on page 1 and the other on pages 2-3.
    We write our own content and it's all unique and original content.
    It's not all about the traffic you need good content to make the people who land on your page to click on your link to amazon.
    You need to know how to sell the product and not just write a description about it.
    That is what we do to our clients when we sell them Amazon reviews we write them the description on the product and we sell it in the same time. so people would click on your link.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    This may not be something to be concerned about but when it comes to being an Amazon affiliate is there ever any concern that Amazon may drop more affiliates in different states?

    They've already dropped affiliates in: North Carolina, Illinois, Colorado, Rhode Island, and New York. Even California had been dropped but was later reinstated.

    The point I'm trying to make is should Amazon affiliates be concerned? And if so, do Amazon affiliates have a "back up plan" just in case that does happen/an alternative for monetization if their state is ever dropped or if the Amazon affiliate program is ever dropped altogether?
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