YOU WILL FAIL IF YOU ARE A NEWBIE, FRUSTRATED AND CLUELESS...

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Whenever people talk about Gurus, they talk about them as if they are either amazing people or dirtbags. It's the experience or the prejudice that make someone a Guru.
You either place them on a silver platter, or you feel like you have been scammed by a bigger internet marketer than you are at this point.

In general Gurus are the bigger intenet marketers. The guys that have it all: the money, the cars, the mansions, the respect...the life you want!

But what makes A Guru? How do they do it? How do they launch a product and make so much money? There must be something fishy going on right?

There is one thing they all have in common: they are people that know people.

If you are a newbie, you are anxious to start your online or offline adventure. You buy products. You believe. You feel confident. You dream...
You get stuck. You realize that some or most of the techniques don't work, or are outdated.
Brave as you are, you try again and again....and again.
You feel frustrated and insecure. How is it done? How do those big internet marketers, the so called Gurus, make money?

If you are frustrated, you are probably suffering from the shiny object syndrome. You hunt down the next big thing. You search. You might be a bit more sceptical than the average newbie, but you still believe.
You buy products that feed your needs: personal growth, respect, money, etc.
You work hard. You fail. What is it that makes a Guru a Guru? How do you get your piece of that pie?

People that are clueless about internet marketing are bulk buyers. They tend to believe that there is no such thing as a quick get rich scheme. They know money is made online and that it's done fast!
They find out that it actually takes hard work to make even a single dollar. They either decide to quit then ,or to learn about internet marketing and become the newbie.

So, how do you overcome the shiny object syndrome? How do you get rid of this frustration? How do you go from being a newbie to a successful internet marketer?

Gurus are not called this way because they were simply lucky enough to hit the jackpot. Like I said: They are people that know people.

Let me repeat that: they are people that know people.
That is is the only reason why they are making the big bucks.
That is the only reason you should get out of your comfort zone and start getting connected with other warriors.

You are able to do the exact same thing: focus on your strenghts and partner up with people that are able to help you, guide you and promote for you.
Now, don't go after the big guys immediately. Don't be a shark.

Connect with people you may like and are in the same niche. Be friendly. Be you! Treat people like people.
Build your circle of trust. Rely on your knowledge.

That is how the big guys are doing it. That is why you are still struggling....all by yourself. You need allies. You need guidance. You need help.
Get that guidance. Befriend people. Tell them about you and you will be surprised how many messages you will get back.
There are plenty of warriors that are willing to help you out. There are plenty of people that might want to get to know you, might like you and will trust you. They are your biggest asset. They are your number one reason you will be making money online or offline.

Being a Guru isn't that hard! Start to connect!
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  • Profile picture of the author sarlat
    Great post - couldn't agree more.

    People need to stop "looking up" to Gurus as if they were some sort of gods and instread start to see how they are being sold to and become a guru themself!
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    • Profile picture of the author natas105
      Exactly, but most people don't know how to become successful. They are often overwhelmed and lost. They always wonder: How do they do it?
      They don't know that all it takes is to connect.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarlat
    Networking with the right people is a major key to doing well in this game if you want to make it big in the IM niche - but also is having a plan and understanding what it is you exactly have to do make money online. As you rightly said too many shiny objects about to distract people!
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  • Profile picture of the author wensar
    I agree. networking is one of the ways. The word "Guru" is just a buzz word to me. There are a lot of great marketers and coaches out there as much as the bad ones. No one is born a marketing genius but you can learn for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author gjohansson1
    You have to build your own audience. That's really how it goes down. You go where the people are, present your offer at the right time, and they will come to you for the help they need.

    Partnering up with marketers with an existing audience is the fast track to success. I started working with a small group of people and doubled my email list and income inside of 30 days which was awesome!
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  • Profile picture of the author Marcus Rockey
    Thanks for the post...

    I agree that info overload and 'shiny products' tend to be the biggest preventive to online success. And I don't mind saying that such products and promises are what got me involved online in the first place, (so they're not all bad! hee hee.

    Having connections is of course key to success and is relevant online and offline. I've found this to be a grassroots business need.

    There you go I said that word... business.

    Here is where I see the biggest mistakes with struggling marketers and it falls in line with the shiny products too. Most don't want a business (and have never even considered it) but they do want to earn a stack of cash. It takes time and suffering (as I did) to finally see that it don't work and we have to build from the ground up.


    If we want people to work with us then they need the very best deal we can give them.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen Marden
      [quote=Marcus Rockey;6906668]Thanks for the post...

      I agree that info overload and 'shiny products' tend to be the biggest preventive to online success. And I don't mind saying that such products and promises are what got me involved online in the first place, (so they're not all bad! hee hee.[QUOTE=Marcus Rockey;6906668]

      I have had serious "shiny object syndrome" When i first started getting an interest in IM, my hard drive was packed!!


      Originally Posted by Marcus Rockey View Post

      Having connections is of course key to success and is relevant online and offline. I've found this to be a grassroots business need.
      "its not what you know, but who you know" goes a long way!

      Originally Posted by Marcus Rockey View Post

      Here is where I see the biggest mistakes with struggling marketers and it falls in line with the shiny products too. Most don't want a business (and have never even considered it) but they do want to earn a stack of cash. It takes time and suffering (as I did) to finally see that it don't work and we have to build from the ground up.
      So true! Making money long term takes hard work and dedication...glad to hear you are putting in the work!
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    • Profile picture of the author natas105
      Originally Posted by Marcus Rockey View Post

      Thanks for the post...

      I agree that info overload and 'shiny products' tend to be the biggest preventive to online success. And I don't mind saying that such products and promises are what got me involved online in the first place, (so they're not all bad! hee hee.

      Having connections is of course key to success and is relevant online and offline. I've found this to be a grassroots business need.

      There you go I said that word... business.

      Here is where I see the biggest mistakes with struggling marketers and it falls in line with the shiny products too. Most don't want a business (and have never even considered it) but they do want to earn a stack of cash. It takes time and suffering (as I did) to finally see that it don't work and we have to build from the ground up.


      If we want people to work with us then they need the very best deal we can give them.

      Thanks
      I agree. I would have to say that it's my opinion that the people that are looking for a quick fix and an instant boat load of money, are to some point clueless. It is business. Treat it like one. Every business owner needs to get involved in networking. You work hard and you make long hours. And yes, it takes money to make money. But when you finally get to the point when you have build a solid business, online or offline, you feel damn proud!
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Marden
    The old saying holds true online too huh?

    "its not what you know, its who you know"
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    • Profile picture of the author natas105
      Originally Posted by Stephen Marden View Post

      The old saying holds true online too huh?

      "its not what you know, its who you know"
      It is! I love your signature quote by the way...
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Awesome post.

    I am always looking to partner up with others and expand my knowledge.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      To look at it from a reverse perspective, a person is much more likely to find acceptance within social circles when they are already established providing something of value.

      In that respect, knowledge is pinnacle (when action follows it!).



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        • Profile picture of the author Stephen Marden
          [QUOTE=joseph7384]This is only half true along with the OP's post, if you can't bring anything to the table then how would you gain acceptance into a circle of established marketers.[quote]


          You are exactly right, and I should of clarified.

          I was assuming that bringing something of value to the table was a given and when it came down to two people of equal experience and knowledge...it would boil down to who knew who. Many people in business are highly qualified, yet lack personal skills that don't allow them to network successfully and get ahead in certain social circles, therefore hampering there advancement within their niche.

          I have also seen other people with far less knowledge or experience have their career accelerate due to the fact they could mingle, schmooze and win over key people in there given business or social circles, which in turn, accelerated their business.

          It does take a healthy balance of what you know and who you know, that I agree whole heartedly on.
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      • Profile picture of the author natas105
        Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

        To look at it from a reverse perspective, a person is much more likely to find acceptance within social circles when they are already established providing something of value.

        In that respect, knowledge is pinnacle (when action follows it!).



        Daniel
        You are right to some extend. You do need to provide knowledge to your customers, your partners, etc. But if you are eagered to learn, a hard working person and a active person, the social circles will accept you. It's a combination of the above and not one aspect that makes a person successful or accepted.
        Everyone is saying that taking action is key to being successful. I rather say that taking intelligent action is the key to your personal success. You might be working hard, but unless you know exactly what you're doing, you have got yourself a plan.
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
          Originally Posted by natas105 View Post

          You are right to some extend. You do need to provide knowledge to your customers, your partners, etc. But if you are eagered to learn, a hard working person and a active person, the social circles will accept you. It's a combination of the above and not one aspect that makes a person successful or accepted.
          Everyone is saying that taking action is key to being successful. I rather say that taking intelligent action is the key to your personal success. You might be working hard, but unless you know exactly what you're doing, you have got yourself a plan.
          Possibly a doubled edged sword.

          A person can shine on ambition itself, however without any apparent value of experience it's sometimes more difficult for people to judge them as an asset above that of a spare wheel regardess of their ability to learn then perform. This is the fundamental argument of companies who do and don't hire apprentices.

          If a person is more focused and confident in branding themselves, their products and services then they can be selective with the action they take to network with others as people will headhunt them eliminating need to having to reach out themselves. Of course, someone needs to reach out so it's not a perfect model by any means! They can simply spend a lot loss time having to invest in people.

          As a bottom line to my take on it; if you get out there and "Do you own sh*t" (to coin a term I've grown to favor), you're much more likely to have people show an interest in you for your independant ambition. There's a certain aura about people who just plough away confidently as opposed to those who might dilute their own potential as they attempt to acquire strength by numbers before they go about strengthening themselves.


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          • Profile picture of the author natas105
            Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

            Possibly a doubled edged sword.

            A person can shine on ambition itself, however without any apparent value of experience it's sometimes more difficult for people to judge them as an asset above that of a spare wheel regardess of their ability to learn then perform. This is the fundamental argument of companies who do and don't hire apprentices.

            If a person is more focused and confident in branding themselves, their products and services then they can be selective with the action they take to network with others as people will headhunt them eliminating need to having to reach out themselves. Of course, someone needs to reach out so it's not a perfect model by any means! They can simply spend a lot loss time having to invest in people.

            As a bottom line to my take on it; if you get out there and "Do you own sh*t" (to coin a term I've grown to favor), you're much more likely to have people show an interest in you for your independant ambition. There's a certain aura about people who just plough away confidently as opposed to those who might dilute their own potential as they attempt to acquire strength by numbers before they go about strengthening themselves.


            Daniel
            Can't argue with that! I absolutely 100% agree. Love the last part of your post!
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  • Profile picture of the author wordpressmania
    It is something like amazing to see people are earning $$$$$$..... but I believe $$$$$ do not come over night. It takes time so if you are frustrate you have only two option.......

    1. You can give up
    2. You can learn from your mistakes

    Number 1 is easy but believe me number 2 is quite hard as most of the people do not understand their mistakes at all.... so first make your own goal...like earnin $10 each month then increase it day by day..... I think it is easy for you that that of earning $$$$$$$ figures within next month....
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  • Profile picture of the author Wade32
    The greatest way to succeed is to find bloggers or internet marketers in your niche and make friends. A lot of people have already stated that networking is important. I want to second that!

    When you make friends with people that are starting out with you or are a little ahead of you, then when the time comes, and it will come if you are consistent, you have powerful allies in the industry.
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    • Profile picture of the author natas105
      Originally Posted by Wade32 View Post

      The greatest way to succeed is to find bloggers or internet marketers in your niche and make friends. A lot of people have already stated that networking is important. I want to second that!

      When you make friends with people that are starting out with you or are a little ahead of you, then when the time comes, and it will come if you are consistent, you have powerful allies in the industry.

      Exactly. However not only bloggers are good allies. Pretty much any one in the business is. More important is finding allies in your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author marc7
    This is a much needed post natas105...Thanks

    As a business owner you can not be in business alone. Personally, I do not know of anyone who became a successful Online Marketer on their own. At one point of my online career I was doing everything on my own...and I mean everything...graphics (well I still do my own graphics. I'm a designer by heart), ranking my sites, content creation, writing sales copies, and other promotion methods.

    But when I connected with others who knew how to do the same things I knew how to do...everything took off. I could now focus on the things I was great at...

    Guys, if you are new to online marketing... some way, some how connect with someone.

    You can not make it in online marketing by your self like natas105 previously stated.
    Stop jumping from product to product looking for that one WSO or other products that will make you financially stable overnight.

    Build a business and treat it like a business and you will succeed.
    Plus it will be better to have someone to share your success with
    when it comes...
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    • Profile picture of the author natas105
      Originally Posted by marc7 View Post

      This is a much needed post natas105...Thanks

      As a business owner you can not be in business alone. Personally, I do not know of anyone who became a successful Online Marketer on their own. At one point of my online career I was doing everything on my own...and I mean everything...graphics (well I still do my own graphics. I'm a designer by heart), ranking my sites, content creation, writing sales copies, and other promotion methods.

      But when I connected with others who knew how to do the same things I knew how to do...everything took off. I could now focus on the things I was great at...

      Guys, if you are new to online marketing... some way, some how connect with someone.

      You can not make it in online marketing by your self like natas105 previously stated.
      Stop jumping from product to product looking for that one WSO or other products that will make you financially stable overnight.

      Build a business and treat it like a business and you will succeed.
      Plus it will be better to have someone to share your success with
      when it comes...

      My words exactly. Thanks! And with that said I would like to encourage every internet marketer to not look down on the newbies or smaller internet marketers. You never know what their strenghts are. They are very helpful and they might have great ideas that you can both work on.
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    • Profile picture of the author natas105
      Originally Posted by marc7 View Post

      This is a much needed post natas105...Thanks

      As a business owner you can not be in business alone. Personally, I do not know of anyone who became a successful Online Marketer on their own. At one point of my online career I was doing everything on my own...and I mean everything...graphics (well I still do my own graphics. I'm a designer by heart), ranking my sites, content creation, writing sales copies, and other promotion methods.

      But when I connected with others who knew how to do the same things I knew how to do...everything took off. I could now focus on the things I was great at...

      Guys, if you are new to online marketing... some way, some how connect with someone.

      You can not make it in online marketing by your self like natas105 previously stated.
      Stop jumping from product to product looking for that one WSO or other products that will make you financially stable overnight.

      Build a business and treat it like a business and you will succeed.
      Plus it will be better to have someone to share your success with
      when it comes...

      My words exactly. Thanks! And with that said, I would like to encourage every internet marketer to not look down on the newbies or smaller internet marketers. You never know what their strenghts are. They are very helpful and they might have great ideas that you can both work on.
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  • Profile picture of the author nasuryono
    Excellent points. The "shiny object syndrome" is what kept me away from making my first 3 figure income online. After I ignore the "shiny object" I was able to easily scale up my income to 4 figure per month.

    The key to success online is to build a real business, build a relationship with people and serve them with your very best interest.
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    • Profile picture of the author natas105
      Originally Posted by nasuryono View Post

      Excellent points. The "shiny object syndrome" is what kept me away from making my first 3 figure income online. After I ignore the "shiny object" I was able to easily scale up my income to 4 figure per month.

      The key to success online is to build a real business, build a relationship with people and serve them with your very best interest.
      Not easy to ignore if you are so eagered to reach your personal goals and not getting there, but it sure is true. People need to understand the value of their knowledge and work from there. There is not just one way to make money. There are at least 5! Point is that when you're stuck, you tend to not see things clearly anymore. Going from clarity to profitability is evidently a tough process and with so many wso's coming out and Google changes, I understand that it can be hard to resist. Most of us aren't buying, but are seeking help from other fellow marketers. Most people don't know that is how it works. They believe that, because they feel they have nothing to offer, we are out of reach.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Sneen
    I agree with and like the post. I am not sure I agree with the title.

    I prefer: You will fail if you are a newbie who remains frustrated and clueless. Those who take steps similar to the ones you recommend will succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Player87
    I love your post, great article.

    Hopefully, a lot of newbies will take note.
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    • Profile picture of the author natas105
      Originally Posted by Player87 View Post

      I love your post, great article.

      Hopefully, a lot of newbies will take note.

      Thank you. I hope so too!
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      • Profile picture of the author carlpicot
        Originally Posted by natas105 View Post

        Thank you. I hope so too!
        Muchof the info that the top marketers teach in their courses can be learned from simple books...

        I just bought one for £2.90 (about $4.00) from Amazon which contained a load of simple to impliment strategies that was easily comparible to very expensive coaching courses.

        Its just a matter of researching what people need and then giving value and good content to provide for them.

        All the stratgies to do this can be learned by anyone and are not secret or worth paying massive amounts of money for.

        OK ... I'm back to reading my book

        cheers

        xxxxcarlxxxx
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        • Profile picture of the author natas105
          Originally Posted by carlpicot View Post

          Muchof the info that the top marketers teach in their courses can be learned from simple books...

          I just bought one for £2.90 (about $4.00) from Amazon which contained a load of simple to impliment strategies that was easily comparible to very expensive coaching courses.

          Its just a matter of researching what people need and then giving value and good content to provide for them.

          All the stratgies to do this can be learned by anyone and are not secret or worth paying massive amounts of money for.

          OK ... I'm back to reading my book

          cheers

          xxxxcarlxxxx
          Carl, you're right! I find mst ebooks to be full of fluff though. Nevertheless, paying an insane amount of money for coaching sessions that will discuss email marketing is absurd. Enjoy reading your book!
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  • Profile picture of the author Trevor
    Building relationships with possible JV partners and connecting with other warriors is essential if you are a product creator - Otherwise, no-one will mail for you, promote your product and no-one will get to see your product or even notice it, therefore, you won't make much money (most traffic that comes to WSO sales thread nowadays is affiliate driven, the traffic that comes directly to the threads from the WSO section or from the search engines is nothing compared to the traffic that big affiliate can drive).

    This is the same as in article marketing - it's a relationship-building business.
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    • Profile picture of the author natas105
      Thanks for the relply Trevor. Did not know same goes for article marketing. Could you explain that a bit to me please?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark72
    The gurus got where they are because they have simply invested a lot more time and money in thier online business in order to get enough experience to become successful.

    There are no hidden secrets in reality - just strategies that work and some that don't.
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