Beef.ca Help with selling domain name?

Banned 12 years ago

Did you contact the Canadian Beef Association? Any other Beef companies? It is not illegal, as least in the US to contact them regarding your domain name. Many people do it and I have sold some domains at good prices by emailing people that I thought would be interested.

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RonDavies 12 years ago

I did contact just about everybody in the beef world, with a formal letter no less, and not a single reply. Odd indeed.
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Wendy Maki

12 years ago

First, that is most definitely a premium domain name!

I would think twice about selling that on Flippa. Clearly you don't have much experience with premium domain names and that could cost you big.
The thing about the domain market is that it's really a case of timing, of one buyer, one seller, happening to meet up in the right place. Domainers hold lots of domains and the timing of when a specific name sells is anyone's guess. For them, its a numbers game... there is always a couple in transaction out of their domains. For those who only have one or a few, it can be very frustrating, expecting to sell it, if it doesn't because it's not the right timing to meet that elusive buyer.

I'd look for a premium domain name broker who will start approaching high end buyers on your behalf. Sedo is one option. There are others. For research, to learn more, go to Domain Name Journal - The Industry News Magazine at DNJournal.com and start getting familiar with the market.

Oh, and BTW it is NOT illegal to approach relevant businesses to let them know you have a domain they might be interested in. However, you do need to do it correctly, or someone could accuse you of spamming (which it is not).

Good luck.

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RonDavies

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Wendy Maki

First, that is most definitely a premium domain name!

I would think twice about selling that on Flippa. Clearly you don't have much experience with premium domain names and that could cost you big.
The thing about the domain market is that it's really a case of timing, of one buyer, one seller, happening to meet up in the right place. Domainers hold lots of domains and the timing of when a specific name sells is anyone's guess. For them, its a numbers game... there is always a couple in transaction out of their domains. For those who only have one or a few, it can be very frustrating, expecting to sell it, if it doesn't because it's not the right timing to meet that elusive buyer.

I'd look for a premium domain name broker who will start approaching high end buyers on your behalf. Sedo is one option. There are others. For research, to learn more, go to and start getting familiar with the market.

Oh, and BTW it is NOT illegal to approach relevant businesses to let them know you have a domain they might be interested in. However, you do need to do it correctly, or someone could accuse you of spamming (which it is not).

Good luck.

Thanks so much for the advice. My lawyer says Flippa can not enforce an auction out of country, though that is dirty pool.

I will definitely raise the BIN, not sure what is a good number.

Thanks for all the advice, I do appreciate it!

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by RonDavies

Thanks so much for the advice. My lawyer says Flippa can not enforce an auction out of country, though that is dirty pool.

I will definitely raise the BIN, not sure what is a good number.

Thanks for all the advice, I do appreciate it!

You can't raise the BIN after there are bids on the auction. You can only lower it. I'd contact Flippa support and tell them to cancel the auction.

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Wendy Maki

12 years ago

Are you insane? putting that domain up with a $1 reserve on flippa! I guess you can't pull it down now, but I'm betting you'll be losing your shirt on this one. OUCH.

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Wendy Maki

12 years ago

If you can't stop the auction now that it's met the reserve, the only choice you got is to let as many people know as possible to try to get a bidding war going. Start advertising everywhere you can and try to let PREMIUM buyers know because I don't think you are going to get what that is worth.

Good luck. Let us know how it turns out. ...

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fenomeno

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Wendy Maki

If you can't stop the auction now that it's met the reserve, the only choice you got is to let as many people know as possible to try to get a bidding war going. Start advertising everywhere you can and try to let PREMIUM buyers know because I don't think you are going to get what that is worth.

Good luck. Let us know how it turns out. ...

Thats right, I agree.

This domain is really premium one. You still have 28 days to reach premium buyers and redirect them to your Flippa listing

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Wendy Maki

12 years ago

Just one more thing. I'd reconsider the "Buy It Now" price. Basically that sets the MAX you could get for it... and if I were a domain investor, I'd snap it up at your Buy It Now price just when the auction heats up to the point where it might go higher (and theoretically it could).

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Gene Pimentel

12 years ago

Ron Davies - the man with nads of steel! Wow, quite a risk you took there, but I think you'll do well with it. Just be sure to promote the heck out of the listing.

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Joint Venture Capital

12 years ago

PM sent! I may be able to help you

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RonDavies 12 years ago

I cant PM. I cant email. WF doesn't let me do anything because I dont spend enough time in here posting, LOL! In any event, Joint Venture Capital send me another way to reach you and we will get this on wheels.
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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Geeesh ... lol. I'm watching this one. $1 reserve on that domain!

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christhurman

12 years ago

Great article (3 parts) on flipping domain names...

http://www.anticareer.com/how-to-mak...final-chapter/

I'd try this before doing a $1 NR auction.

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RonDavies

12 years ago

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fenomeno

12 years ago

I do know your email address

You have domain name in your signature, it was easy to get it

I believe JV could do the same and contact you

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RonDavies 12 years ago

LOL!, well WHOIS to the rescue huh!
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- fenomeno 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by RonDavies
  
  LOL!, well WHOIS to the rescue huh!
  
  Thats right
  
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RonDavies

12 years ago

I have had quite a bit of trouble with Sedo in the past, but it seems like everyone in here likes them. Maybe just for premium names? Who is best to approach with premium ones in general? There must be scouts out there...

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Gene Pimentel

12 years ago

Originally Posted by RonDavies

I have had quite a bit of trouble with Sedo in the past, but it seems like everyone in here likes them. Maybe just for premium names? Who is best to approach with premium ones in general? There must be scouts out there...

Ron, I'll send you a contact via FaceBook

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Gene Pimentel

12 years ago

Not sure how, but he already did raise the BIN to $125k.

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Well, it looks like you were able to raise the BIN. That doesn't help much though if no one uses it with a $1 reserve. You need a broker for this domain.

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RonDavies

12 years ago

Yeah what a mess. I think i need a broker for sure. I would like to secure a broker, and cancel that auction. Where would I get a broker? Any you guys might recommend?

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by RonDavies

Yeah what a mess. I think i need a broker for sure. I would like to secure a broker, and cancel that auction. Where would I get a broker? Any you guys might recommend?

View Profile: Thomas Smale
Thomas Smale is a broker
You could also ask Gene Pimentel, who has already posted in this thread

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by RonDavies

Yeah what a mess. I think i need a broker for sure. I would like to secure a broker, and cancel that auction. Where would I get a broker? Any you guys might recommend?

Make sure you contact Flippa support to try to cancel the auction rather than just closing the auction, which would result in a winner.

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RonDavies

12 years ago

I did. And the WF people were kind enough to unlock my PM temporarily. Maybe I can get wheels on this now. Old timer makes rookie mistake, lol! Well, the next best one I ever sold was only $12,000, so premium is new to me more or less really.

Thanks again, guys, you rock!

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Gene will probably set you up. There's also RickLatonas.com. Click on his websites for sale. He brokers.

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RonDavies

12 years ago

Thanks Suzanne, I will check that out as well, and Gene is hooking me on FB too. Cheers!

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Caleb Spilchen

12 years ago

I don't think you should have posted this...

Hi guys, I just raised the Buy It Now because a thread on Warrior Forum is cooking up about the value of this domain name being through the roof and that basically I am nuts to sell it here for starters, and at such a low BIN with no reserve as well. It looks like this is a $100,000 domain name after all. We shall see!

It makes you sound as if you doubt the true value of your domain... Also, I should note that you can't broker this as a domain sale now, as long as its listed on Flippa. (You'd be violating their terms when someone buys & you don't complete the sale)

Caleb

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RonDavies

12 years ago

Hi Caleb,

Thanks for your comment. If and when I get in contact with a broker, and we establish a market that perhaps is not on Flippa, I will ask Flippa to kill the auction. I know they cannot force a seller to sell, or a buyer to buy (same as eBay).

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Caleb Spilchen

12 years ago

Originally Posted by RonDavies

Hi Caleb,

Thanks for your comment. If and when I get in contact with a broker, and we establish a market that perhaps is not on Flippa, I will ask Flippa to kill the auction. I know they cannot force a seller to sell, or a buyer to buy (same as eBay).

Note this from the terms of service...

6. No Double Selling

You agree that if you, as a Seller, purchase an Auction for your Website, then, for the duration of that Auction, you will not advertise or offer to sell the Website through any other third party service or make direct approaches to potential purchasers outside Flippa.com. You acknowledge that the purpose of this restriction is to avoid you potentially entering into agreements to sell your Website to two or more purchasers at the same time and to help provide Buyers with the assurance that should they purchase the Website from you via Flippa.com, they will obtain full title to the Website. Note that this restriction does not extend to Websites listed as a Private Sale.

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Not trying to get ya into trouble, but I don't know how that works with cancelling auctions. IMO you pretty much have to sell via Flippa...

Caleb

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RonDavies 12 years ago

Thanks Caleb. I appreciate your input and help.

The corporate rep from Flippa is already here on the thread, and helping me enormously from the corporate level. Ophelie makes me feel special, LOL

Ron
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RonDavies 12 years ago

Hey guys, I just put blogging and social commenting up at the main beef.ca site. It would be cool if you dropped a comment or two. Guys like Gene know I have a very long reach, and that I always reciprocate graciously

Thanks in advance, you rock!
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onSubie

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

6. No Double Selling

"...for the duration of that Auction..."

Not trying to get ya into trouble, but I don't know how that works with cancelling auctions. IMO you pretty much have to sell via Flippa...

Caleb

When you cancel an auction, it is no longer active and your are outside of "the duration of the auction".

This clause just means you can't sell on Flippa and other places at the same time.

If you want to sell outside of Flippa, you need to cancel the auction first.

Mahlon

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by onSubie

When you cancel an auction, it is no longer active and your are outside of "the duration of the auction".

This clause just means you can't sell on Flippa and other places at the same time.

If you want to sell outside of Flippa, you need to cancel the auction first.

Mahlon

Unless it has changed, you can't just cancel an auction that already has bids. You can close it early, but that will result in the highest bidder being the winner if the reserve is met. Under those circumstances, Flippa is the only one who could cancel the auction for you, if they would.

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zigizag

12 years ago

I'm interested to see how much this domain goes for even more now that I own "Lamb.es"

Maybe we should open our own farm now.

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RonDavies

12 years ago

Originally Posted by zigizag

I'm interested to see how much this domain goes for even more now that I own "Lamb.es"

Maybe we should open our own farm now.

Funny you should mention that. We are

No action that I can tell yet, but it is great for them for a few things. Anyone have an adult industry contacts? Needless to say, plenty of gate-keepers in that space. Cloaked in anonymity.

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zigizag

12 years ago

Originally Posted by RonDavies

Funny you should mention that. We are

No action that I can tell yet, but it is great for them for a few things. Anyone have an adult industry contacts? Needless to say, plenty of gate-keepers in that space. Cloaked in anonymity.

Well things keep getting better, I also now own PORK.PK & LAMB.ES. Anyone in the adult industry, send us an offer!

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RonDavies 12 years ago

Hey guys! Thanks so much! BTW, ClickbankPlugin.com is finishing auction on Flippa in less than an hour. Not exactly beef.ca, but... LOL!
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RonDavies

12 years ago

Well, Beef.ca is now the top premium listing on the whole site at Flippa. Flippa corporate is taking up the torch to promote beef.ca for me, including press release, mailing to key players, premium listing on their site, all as a kind and generous gesture to me for placing my very premium domain up for sale on their site. Thank you Flippa!

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zigizag 12 years ago

I just saw this on Flippa before coming here. I think the best thing is let all "Beef Companies" know about the auction, that way you'll get maximum exposure. Good luck with the sale! I think you should do well.
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MaryPabelate

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by RonDavies

Well, Beef.ca is now the top premium listing on the whole site at Flippa. Flippa corporate is taking up the torch to promote beef.ca for me, including press release, mailing to key players, premium listing on their site, all as a kind and generous gesture to me for placing my very premium domain up for sale on their site. Thank you Flippa!

Thanks for your helpful post in domain marketing, I also want to come into this, can you advise me some basic things in domain selling and buying?

I have 2 domain names to sell "adverb.biz", "lisaarticles.com" is there any chances to sell this domain name.

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by RonDavies

Well, Beef.ca is now the top premium listing on the whole site at Flippa. Flippa corporate is taking up the torch to promote beef.ca for me, including press release, mailing to key players, premium listing on their site, all as a kind and generous gesture to me for placing my very premium domain up for sale on their site. Thank you Flippa!

That's good news. Hate to see a good domain go for peanuts.

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zigizag 12 years ago

Your auction is defiantly on my watch list. Can't wait to see how much it ends up going for!
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- RonDavies 12 years ago
  
  Yes, will be interesting. Gene Pimental is setting up a cool contest for people to guess the final value of the domain... He is SOOO cool
  
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  Gene Pimentel 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by RonDavies
  
  Yes, will be interesting. Gene Pimentel is setting up a cool contest for people to guess the final value of the domain... He is SOOO cool
  
  I don't think I'm allowed to post the contest here, but my mailing list will get it :-)
  
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  Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel
  
  I don't think I'm allowed to post the contest here, but my mailing list will get it :-)
  
  But it's not my site, so I am allowed to post the contest url
  Highest Value 4 Letter .CA Domain Ever Listed on Flippa! | Domain Profits Academy
  
  I just made one entry
  
  Historical data
  beef.com went for $150K in 2004
  flights.ca went for $125K
  
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OLechat

12 years ago

My pleasure Ron! This should be a great auction to watch.

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dcristo

12 years ago

You should have approached Adam @ DNF. Doubtful you will find a bigger balla in the .ca space.

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Socialbakers

12 years ago

Well, that is a quite a risk to put it up there for $1 even though you were able to raise the BIN.

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Caleb Spilchen

12 years ago

Got an e-mail about a contest from Gene Pimentel:

domainprofitsacademy.com/highest-value-4-letter-ca-domain-name-ever-to-be-posted-on-flippa

Caleb

(Not linking as I don't want someone to say I'm promoting Gene or whatever)

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Gene Pimentel

12 years ago

Thanks for that Caleb and Suzanne :-)

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AgentHomes

12 years ago

You might try to market that url to the adult industry as well.

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zigizag

12 years ago

I don't think I've got the so called nads of steel that Ron has...

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mike_somerville

12 years ago

Quite the thread here! Lol

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James Campbell

12 years ago

Hey Ron,

Something you should also be aware of is that there are quite a few rules and regulations put forth by CIRA which is the registry for all .ca domain names. Before sale makes rue the purchaser meets the Candian Presence Requirements put forth my the registry which are located here: http://www.cira.ca/assets/Documents/...trants/CPR.pdf

If they don't meet those criteria they cannot own a .ca domain name.

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imranshk4u

12 years ago

I actually read whole thread. Each and every comments and that was interesting. Now i am waiting to see how much worth this domain is actually is? An interesting threas here to follow up

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