DMCA To Find The Owner Of A Site

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If You DMCA a site, can you find the owner details then?
#dmca #find #owner #site
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Serving a DMCA notice doesn't necessarily help to identify the owner.

    You can try to find that with a "who is" search. They may have "privacy protection" but even so, there should be an email address as an "adminstrative contact", and so on.

    Other things you can do include ...

    (i) Looking on sites like who-hosts.com to identify the host (and you can and should send the host the DMCA notice anyway)

    (ii) Trying to contact the owner by making up email addresses like "admin", "info", "support" and so on, at theirdomain.com (some people have those set up, or a catch-all, and can be reached that way).

    But ultimately, you don't need to know who the owner is, to serve a DMCA notice.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Hughes
    A DCMA notice or complaint is just that, it gives notice to the owner that there is a DCMA problem. It has nothing to do with identifying the site owner's identity.
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  • Profile picture of the author RussellMax
    DMCA will not help. You would have to sue them to find out who owns.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Just send the DMCA to the host. That's more effective than trying to deal with the site owner. The host gives them a 48 hr ultimatum. Ditch the copyrighted content or your hosting account gets shut down.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Just send the DMCA to the host. That's more effective than trying to deal with the site owner. The host gives them a 48 hr ultimatum. Ditch the copyrighted content or your hosting account gets shut down.

      Did anyone notice that he did not indicate a copyright problem, but only a desire to discover the owner of a website?

      If he has any issue that does not include the use of material that has been copyrighted being used without permission, then the DMCA will cause unnecessary problems for someone who is perhaps innocent of any wrong doing.

      DON'T USE DMCA, UNLESS there is an issue of copyright infringement!!
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        Did anyone notice that he did not indicate a copyright problem, but only a desire to discover the owner of a website?

        If he has any issue that does not include the use of material that has been copyrighted being used without permission, then the DMCA will cause unnecessary problems for someone who is perhaps innocent of any wrong doing.

        DON'T USE DMCA, UNLESS there is an issue of copyright infringement!!
        Quite true. I assumed he had a good reason, but it doesn't seem to be forthcoming.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ismael Zarruqui
    Why do you want the owner details ?

    First check the website and contact the owner by email..if you cannot find the email address for the website that has published your copyrighted content, you can utilize WHOIS to find the person associated with the site's domain..then send your DMCA Complaint to the email address associated with that domain (even if it's protected).

    You can find a site's hosting service and file a DMCA with the hosting service directly.

    whoishostingthis.com

    Finally ,if you don't get a response from the owner or hosting with which you have filed your DMCA complaint, you may then file a DMCA complaint with Google and try to get the page de-indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Just do a WHOIS lookup on the domain name.
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    New WF buzzword "DMCA"
    So now every man/woman and their dog
    are filing notices, probably for the wrong reason...
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    • Profile picture of the author MarioSotojr
      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      New WF buzzword "DMCA"
      So now every man/woman and their dog
      are filing notices, probably for the wrong reason...
      And a lawsuit will soon follow hehe
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      • Profile picture of the author myonlineempires
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        Originally Posted by MarioSotojr View Post

        And a lawsuit will soon follow hehe
        I bet you he is just trying to shut down a competitor's website
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Just look inside their underpants. Most people have their name written there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    Don't ever file a false DMCA, you could find yourself in some hot water.

    Consequences of filing a false DMCA Takedown Request : Lawyer Directory
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Schmidt
    There is nothing you could do other than mutually convincing the owner to take it down.
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    • Profile picture of the author salegurus
      Originally Posted by Brent Schmidt View Post

      There is nothing you could do other than mutually convincing the owner to take it down.
      Ummm, did you actually read the follow up posts?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ducksauce
    I have been rather quiet, giving things time to sort out. I am being ignored though by the site owner.

    It is not a copyright issue. An individual has made some false incorrect statements that are a determent to my interest. He / She does have a contact us page, and my contact attempts have been ignored. I have emailed their contact information on whois, which is a domain registrar proxy who is protecting their identity. Their domain privacy policy (rules of being anonymous) indicated that my emails would be passed on to the owner of the domain and these have been ignored. Same for snail mail.

    I would like to avoid the cost of legal action of course.

    I am at the point of engaging legal representation in that country where it is hosted (and domain registered) and proceeding to indicate that I am willing to sue the host for publishing these claims as they have hampered my attempts to have them rectified.

    It is not a path I wanted to go down. But the host is part of the problem spewing this garbage out to the world 24/7 and the registrar is protecting the person. I have a gut feeling who owns the domain, but I can not prove it as the host / registrar is protecting them.

    At what point does the host or registrar have to give up this secret?
    How can you go to court with a ghost protected by the domain registrar?
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    • Profile picture of the author hometutor
      Originally Posted by Ducksauce View Post

      I have been rather quiet, giving things time to sort out. I am being ignored though by the site owner.

      It is not a copyright issue. An individual has made some false incorrect statements that are a determent to my interest.

      Are you saying someone utilized his/her freedom of speech. You think it will hurt your business so you want it taken down?

      Rick
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    • Profile picture of the author davezan
      Originally Posted by Ducksauce View Post

      At what point does the host or registrar have to give up this secret?
      Two words: court order. And that's if coming from one of competent jurisdiction,
      namely that of the registrar's or host's.

      While unfortunate, civil disputes like these happen every other day. That's what
      courts and lawyers are for.

      OTOH there are other ways to possibly resolve your issue without legal action. It
      may require some creativity like "engaging" the other party in question, making a
      few rebuttals without attacking the other party in other blogs, etc., but doable.

      Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ducksauce
    Don't ever file a false DMCA, you could find yourself in some hot water.

    Consequences of filing a false DMCA Takedown Request : Lawyer Directory


    I agree about the comments about the warning about a false DMCA and is abused.
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  • Profile picture of the author contentwriting360
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    I don't want to repeat what others already said but I just want to tell you what has worked for me - WHOIS. In some cases, registrants have privacy protection so you won't be able to see their direct email address and other PII (Personally Identifiable Information).
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    If it isn't a copyright issue then don't use DMCA (digital Millenium COPYRIGHT Act). Sounds like they might be exercising freedom of speech. Not sure that trying to quash that, even if he/she is saying something you don't like (like a review for instance) is a good idea. If people cannot have their own opinions on a website they own, what's the point?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ducksauce
    What if they are impersonating you, using your name, your business name, basically 100% pretending to be you then go on the make false claims that are extreamly insulting to people. In the name of free speech can you go n the net, and pretend to be some one and accuse a 3rd party of being a pedophile amunst other things and hide behind a privacy setting on WHO IS?
    WHOIS is useless in this case.

    Is this freedom of speech?
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