Free Will Still Work

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I see so many post and threads on here from people that are apparently broke to the point of not being able to afford hosting, autoresponders, and other tools of the trade.

Deciding to kill two birds with one stone I am setting up my newest project on all free resources and then of course leveraging the project by making a case study on using all free resources to set up a product.

Tool wise I am using Get Response (Free Trial) and JV Zoo.

Get Response free version is a gem. It is only good for thirty days so this means I have to make enough money with the new program to pay up. JV Zoo is always free and is just a superior platform in my opinion.

I am also using the free version of wordpress for some of the lessons and must say it is doable but once used to your own self hosted version it does have it's limitations.

I am already sure this will work and want to challenge you to step up and take action.

JV Zoo actually takes place of the website, traffic, payment processing and a lot more.

Get Response as a delivery agent and further marketing tool can complete the process. There is no reason why anyone desiring to make money online can not set up a product and make enough money in 30 days to pay for the 2nd month.

If you dig deep you know something others are willing to pay for .... get off your butt and sell it to them.
#main internet marketing discussion forum #free #work
  • Don't forget $100 adwords coupons for new accounts.

    With a little "creativity" you can use more than one coupon.

    More than enough to get the ball rolling in conjunction with product development.
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    • I saw the coupon. No reason not to use it. While I will concentrate on free traffic concepts to stay in line with the theme of the project, there is several tactics I will use that gets paid traffic for free.

      Things like leveraging my SEO skills to barter for media placements on sites already ranking in the number 2, 3, or 4 spot of Google. Those sites are wanting to get to number one .. make it happen and they will reward you with some traffic.
  • Yup, free methods can definitely still work.

    You can
    -Create a product
    -Create an upsell
    -Put it on JVZoo to get affiliates
    -Use a JVZoo sales page
    -Build a list of buyers using Get Response
    -Make enough money to purchase your domain and hosting
    -Start paying for traffic, and it only goes up from there
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  • I'm all about free traffic, but eventually I hit a point where I couldn't get the same volume as paid.

    But it is great when you are starting out.
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    • I agree..... great way to start if you don't have a huge budget, then reinvest and build!
  • I use free services too, for example a top sites list which is a free hosted version, it helps me build links with other sites and also free file hosting to host my free ebooks.
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    • I honestly haven't went the free route in a while. I just wanted to see if it was still doable .. so far it is working out pretty good.
  • The plan is flawed in that you are telling people who can't make money online to teach others how to make money online. I don't know why so many people on this forum are constantly drawn to this. There is a world of opportunity out there and countless valuable skills to learn. Yet the discussion always ends up back at the relatively low upside business of pretending to be a guru.
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    • How in the world do you get I am even suggesting for people to get into the MMO niche? To tell others to teach others to make money online? If that is what internet marketing means to you then you are missing the boat.

      JV zoo has a lot of products on it now that has nothing to do with MMO. Who is pretending to be a guru? It must have hurt when you pulled that one out of your butt.
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  • To be honest, when I didn't have any money my success was very little. Now that I have money, my "projects" seem like they succeed much more often... why? Some things you just need to have money to make money. Now I am not saying you cannot do it for free but I think its flawed for everyone to think they can start with nothing and succeed online like its their right. To be honest, I don't think I could do it with an empty bank account and I would think people on this board would consider me successful in IM even though I am no $10k a day marketer lol. I got a job, worked overtime, saved and used that money to get started. I still work a day job as my day job is IM but for a company where I learn a lot and I still put some of my paycheck into my business account to keep things moving quickly.
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    • All it takes to make money online is the ability to drive targeted traffic to a converting offer. It really doesn't take money to accomplish either one of those things.

      What were limitations to you may not and do not apply to everyone.
  • I believe you can be successful no matter you're using free stuff.

    If you work hard enough and be consistent you can be successful even if you started with ZERO.

    Can't start an online because you're really broke is an excuse. There are ways to start online business without any money.

    You just need to be resourceful, creative and if your reason to make money online is big enough, you WILL find a way.

    Cheers,
    Chetz
  • You could say that free ads online work but I still like PAID advertising like PPC. If you want FAST results then go with PAID and if you want really slow results then go with free.

    Plus, with free advertising you don't know if it is going to pay off for you in the future.

    If you don't have a JOB that makes you money then I would not encourage you to submit articles and videos and do all you can to drive as much free and targeted traffic to what ever you are selling.

    If you do have a JOB then you can afford paid media. Somehow, I know it is possible to start small and then grow bigger as your income grows.
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    • Nothing wrong with PPC. I myself prefer media buys to PPC. I would no more rely on PPC as a sole traffic source as I would any one free source. You never know when the pai9d source decides they do not like your business model or someone with deeper pockets decide they want your ad placement.
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    You don't have to pay any money to start, but why don't you want to? (if you are not completely broke). It's a lot easier to get started that way, $10 for a domain name and $5/mo for hosting, plus the money for aweber isn't much.
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    • Believe it or not .. $10 in some parts of the world is more than the family food budget.Even in the US some people are hurting to the point of $10 being a big deal.
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  • Yes, Free still Works!

    But Success didn't come freely.
    Use Free Ways to start your expedition journey into your niches markets by your own hand-on experiences.
    Do Paid for something that can save your times & efforts to achieve your dream passive incomes online.

    Is a FAIR game.
    Find your 'Unfair Advantages' to Win the game
  • Free traffic doesn't scale. You can only post to Social media or craigslist so much per day. Even SEO, once you hit #1... where do you go from there? Paid has practically unlimited ability to scale. When you find the perfect display creative and targeting, you can then go to every single network and put it up, for the most part but there are too many and you would never get to them all to keep your cash flow positive. Or once your offer does well on one affiliate network, you can go to the bazillion others out there.

    Nothing wrong with free but IMO the time you are spending is really worth more than what you are saving by going the free route, many just don't realize this.
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    • Someone who says free traffic doesn't scale doesn't understand free traffic.

      SEO is very scalable. Traffic tiers and diagonal promotions can be virtually endless. Article syndication done the Alexa way is as free as it gets and one well placed article can bring in more than SEO and be a lot better targeted than PPC. And that is just the tip of the iceberg when dealing with free traffic.
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      Only if you have an unlimited budget. Otherwise, your ability to scale via paid traffic has limits just like every other method.
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  • You have to invest resources to succeed. That does not always mean your money. It can mean time. Or it can mean other people's money if you work with partners.
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    • 100% agree. Most will find it takes a little of both but always time.
  • My mentor, the only guy that really showed me how to earn money online, said that it takes money to make money. I still think it is true to this day. Those who want free stuff and are not willing to invest in their future, are NOT REALLY serious.

    That is the way I see it.
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    • One good affiliate can make you more money in a day than most people make in a year. What happens if you hook up with several good affiliates. You are "thinking" but are you testing. You may have found a mentor that showed you how to invest properly but that does not mean it is the only way, the best way, or will work for everyone.
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  • You don't have to have money to make money. With a good plan, it can work. Especially, if you put your meager initial earnings back into your project.

    A good plan is king. Many have lost thousands....because they lacked a workable plan.

    That being said, it is easier to make money if you have money. Working without restrictions and using every available tool should give you a huge advantage.
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    • Yes David. I will take a proven plan and the knowledge to implement said plan over a big budget, no plan or a flawed plan, and no knowledge.
    • I agree with you david, It really depends how much money you are willing to sacrifice to gain success., its not that easy specially for starters like me

      Thanks very helpful thread
  • I have just signed up with JV Zoo. Thanks for sharing this man, I can't believe it's free. Great tool. Thanks.
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    • I take it that "creativity" means lying to open more than one account, which can close that avenue off quickly and permanently if you get caught. Every Adwords coupon I've ever gotten, and I get them about once a month it seems, says it's for new accounts only.

      The keyword is "practically unlimited"...

      In theory, as long as you make more from the ad spend than it costs you, there is no upper limit.

      From observing some of the companies I've worked with, you do reach a point where reliable traffic sources do get maxed out. Additional paid traffic either fails to pay for itself, or starts cannibalizing other sources.
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  • I think it comes down to what value you can offer to others. All else is just communication channels.

    If you truly offer value, then no matter what skill you possess, you can absolutely make it be it online or offline.
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  • Free absolutely works, especially for rookies on a budget.

    Posterous and Tumblr are other platforms to look at as blog platforms. Posterous in particular has some very powerful RSS functionality. Like WP neither serve ads on your site except for the usual "create your own site" type link.

    The cool thing about free platforms, tools and services these days is the majority offer a pretty powerful freemium version that you can start with, then upgrade and scale when you're in positive cashflow.

    I think that's an important factor for rookies to grasp...
    Just because it's "paid" doesn't mean you'll make money with it.
    If someone is unable to make money with the free options, odds are pretty high they won't with paid options either. In fact they'll probably lose money.

    PPC as a sidenote is a great compliment to free.
    You can setup a ppc campaign in MSN Adcenter for example, run $50 through it and take the keyword & conversion data you glean and apply the positives to your free (seo / organic) model.

    You just have to think out of the box a little and find creative ways to use the resources you have.
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    • Don't let the lack of post fool you here. Richard is the real deal.
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  • Free will still work offline too... but with only higher quality leads and traffic coming to your website.
  • Quick aside, I tried MailChimp not long ago and it was free for up to X amount of e-mails. Like 100% free. Not a free trial then it expires, etc. Free as in have a free beer.

    Not sure if they are still doing it, but worth checking out.
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    • Not only is MC not affiliate marketer friendly, they do not want any type of internet marketer using their system. Honestly, if you can't make enough to pay for an autoresponder in 30 days .. might need to check your skill set or the program you have aligned yourself with .. something is missing somewhere (not slinging that at you kenzik .. just in general.)
  • I like little projects like this one. The results are always interesting and great for out-of-the-box thinking.

    Troy, do you plan to add more detailed updates to this (here, blog, or elsewhere)? I'd be interested in reading them.
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    • Robert,

      I actually do a case study on every project I start. I was going to use the case study for email bait but will place this one "sign up free" in my sig when I get it finished.
  • The possibilities are ENDLESS, you just have to know how to search. Google that is
  • Using free methods is the best way to go for newbies IMO.

    Set up a free blog on Weebly, Blogger, Posterous, Multiply, LiveJournal, Xanga or other free blog platforms.

    Get free traffic from Craigslist, Backpage, OLX and other free classified ad sites as well as from Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, etc.

    That free traffic CAN be scaled up with paid methods (when you know it is effective and profitable for you)... wanna know how ? Find people on Fiverr to place the classified ads or add friends for you on Facebook, etc.

    A good free auto-responder : Imnica

    So there you have everything you need to get started making money with no investment. I did it. I reckon others can do it too...

    When you start earning, then re-invest your money to grow your business by getting a domain, paid hosting, buy some ads, etc.

    But IMO it is better to learn how to earn using free methods when you are starting out.

    Good luck !
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    • Now honestly, I would never suggest going the free route unless you have no choice. Your own self hosted site offers a lot more security ( as far as it being removed by the real owner)and lets you do things your way. I just didn't want people thinking that the total lack of funds is a deal stopper.
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    The only thing about this plan is that you already have the skills to complete. This doesn't make it an even playing field for someone with a learning curve. All you have done was figure out how to get started on a 30 day free trial. I would be cautious of a newbie having no skills to be able to make this work the first time in 30 days. They may find themselves owing money in the end!

    If you took a survey of warriors and ask them, "how long did it take you to make money online". A large portion would say 6 months or longer.

    Know yourself noobs!
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    • First off there is no charge after the trial although any list members you have will need to be contacted via another method if you have not made enough to upgrade. Really though, if the list hasn't made a sale in 30 days you need to back up and punt and you have probably a;ready ruined that list anyway. .

      Second .. you are right about the level playing field.

      Also .. out of those that took six month .. were they promoting a buy button during that time? Reading post on the WF is not internet marketing lol. But to level the playing field a little ..... I will update this post tomorrow with a step by step of how to go from zero to hero in 30 days.
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  • really cool method of free marketing , it works always works!

    I've seen some wso have been doing this and it seems they're successful with this free method. Just make sure they need to offer good value products for free, unless people will leave and won't take the free offer
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      You said what I was thinking. I am know mind reader, but, I assume that Mr. Phillips realized that making a step by step took more thought than he initially anticipated, so, it'll probably be an extra day or two. Just my guess.

      Are you talking about they are successful at making a free WSO?
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    There you go! I just set you up for under $20 for an entire year. Domain name, wordpress hosting AND autoresponder. Cheaper than a movie for 2!
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    • Throw in a small bag of popcorn and a small soda, and it's cheaper than a movie for 1...
  • There are great ways to get free .cu.cc domains. just google it
  • the first money i made online was by following The Thirty Day Challenge, years a go. I set up a free wordpress blog, wrote an article about Bose Earphones, added a link to amazon as an affiliate and BAM within a month I got my first sale! I only made a couple of bucks but that it was lead me to where I am today.

    i then learned about adsense, etc. and bought a domain and invest $80 on my first site for the year. Started writing articles, now i make 150-250 per month on that site.

    it all started with free then realized the gamble of $80 was worth it.
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  • Okay ... you don't have a product .. use this affiliate step by step (somewhat)

    Here it is .. a day and a half late but right on time:-)

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6972895
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    • Good job man !!!
      Very interesting post/article.
      You should write an ebook with that good stuff.
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    Free Will Still Work

    I see so many post and threads on here from people that are apparently broke to the point of not being able to afford hosting, autoresponders, and other tools of the trade. Deciding to kill two birds with one stone I am setting up my newest project on all free resources and then of course leveraging the project by making a case study on using all free resources to set up a product.