What's with the thanks bias?

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I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts and 0 thanks given, yet when a member with a large post count posts even general, insignificant, or similar things people can't wait to thank them. :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Batty
    I wouldnt take it personally.. but I do agree there is some of that.

    I think there's a bit of "suck uppage" going on with some of the big guys..

    I see it in Facebook too. There's on particular marketer that if he just said "F&rt" on FB 200 people would click Like. It's pretty weird.
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    • Profile picture of the author jfambrini
      Originally Posted by Patrick Batty View Post

      I wouldnt take it personally.. but I do agree there is some of that.

      I think there's a bit of "suck uppage" going on with some of the big guys..

      I see it in Facebook too. There's on particular marketer that if he just said "F&rt" on FB 200 people would click Like. It's pretty weird.
      What do they gain by thanking those the high posters? Is it the same as sucking up to the rich guy in the neighborhood or are high posters able to pass some reputation to thankers as they can do in some other forums?
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  • Profile picture of the author JakeAng
    A lot of people look up to many of the members with a large post count, they're probably thanking them more for the time they're taking out of their already successful IM time to help newer members. Their time is more valuable maybe?

    It's easier to forget about the people struggling once you've made a success yourself, but you have to think back to how much help you got from experienced warriors.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrhonored
    Thank for who?
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Just my personal observation, but it seems that "thanks" go out a lot to posts that people agree with, regardless of whether it is something new or particularly helpful to the conversation at hand. You think all those "thanks" under my name are for saying smart things and making people money ? I'd say more than anything they're for making people chuckle.

    But whenever I think of this I stop and realize we're talking about an admittedly insignificant metric on an internet marketing forum and move on with the rest of my day. But people can be fooled by those with a bunch of thanks! True, but they're kind of asking for it unless they choose to actually check the "thanked" history to see if the posts were actually worthy of being bestowed.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      As for me, if I find a post that I think deserves thanking, I just thank it without looking at who the poster is or how long they've been a member, or how many thanks they already have.

      That would be just too time consuming trying to keep track of deciding who to dole out thanks to or trying to do the math for an equation to thank people by.

      When you see those long in depth posts you deem worthy of a thank, just thank them. Plain and simple.

      You should also keep in mind what some people find to be in depth and informative, others may not. There are a boatload of marketers at all different experience levels here.

      Oh, and happy thanking.

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      • Profile picture of the author rpstaller
        Stupid new guy question of the day - how do you thank someone? I was looking and I couldn't figure it out. Do you just reply and say thank you and it registers as a "thanks"?
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by rpstaller View Post

          Stupid new guy question of the day - how do you thank someone? I was looking and I couldn't figure it out. Do you just reply and say thank you and it registers as a "thanks"?
          I believe you have to have 5 posts before the thank button appears at the bottom right hand side of posts along with the other buttons.

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          • Profile picture of the author rpstaller
            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            I believe you have to have 5 posts before the thank button appears at the bottom right hand side of posts along with the other buttons.

            Terra
            I'll have to come back and thank you for your reply after I make 5 posts .
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              "Thanks bias?"

              That might be true if the only reason to click the 'thanks' button was posting a long, in-depth post.

              Just this morning, I've thanked people for making me laugh (Horny Devil, above), complimenting me on a post I made, and putting up a two line post that furnished information I was having a hard time finding. All legitimate reasons for saying thank you, and none involving either long, detailed posts or post counts.
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

                "Thanks bias?"

                That might be true if the only reason to click the 'thanks' button was posting a long, in-depth post.

                Just this morning, I've thanked people for making me laugh (Horny Devil, above), complimenting me on a post I made, and putting up a two line post that furnished information I was having a hard time finding. All legitimate reasons for saying thank you, and none involving either long, detailed posts or post counts.
                This is true John, on all counts. A snicker, chuckle and a LOL will draw a thanks from me quicker than anything.

                Also, just because a post is long and detailed doesn't make it thank worthy at all, just as a long, detailed, boring article doesn't make for a worthy read.

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                • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
                  Think of it as a way of learning who the sycophants are

                  I don't look to see who I'm thanking usually but what gets thanks from me is good information whether or not it's long or in depth, or a good laugh and Horny Devil gave me that.
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            • Profile picture of the author Susan A
              Well, I haven't been able to say thanks though, but in my opinions, we must judge the comment regardless who said that.
              If their advice actually help you, just click thanks, its free! except we must pay when we want to thanks, its a different story:rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author zigizag
          Originally Posted by rpstaller View Post

          Stupid new guy question of the day - how do you thank someone? I was looking and I couldn't figure it out. Do you just reply and say thank you and it registers as a "thanks"?
          Click the "Thanks" button on the bottom right corner of the post you want to thank. I dare you to try it!
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      • Profile picture of the author TopKat22
        Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

        Shrugs

        Just my personal observation, but it seems that "thanks" go out a lot to posts that people agree with, regardless of whether it is something new or particularly helpful to the conversation at hand. You think all those "thanks" under my name are for saying smart things and making people money ? I'd say more than anything they're for making people chuckle.

        But whenever I think of this I stop and realize we're talking about an admittedly insignificant metric on an internet marketing forum and move on with the rest of my day. But people can be fooled by those with a bunch of thanks! True, but they're kind of asking for it unless they choose to actually check the "thanked" history to see if the posts were actually worthy of being bestowed.
        I just had to "thank you" for that.

        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        As for me, if I find a post that I think deserves thanking, I just thank it without looking at who the poster is or how long they've been a member, or how many thanks they already have.

        That would be just too time consuming trying to keep track of deciding who to dole out thanks to or trying to do the math for an equation to thank people by.

        When you see those long in depth posts you deem worthy of a thank, just thank them. Plain and simple.

        You should also keep in mind what some people find to be in depth and informative, others may not. There are a boatload of marketers at all different experience levels here.

        Oh, and happy thanking.

        Terra
        I agree with you. Frankly, I don't often even look to see who is posting and couldn't tell you the names of people on here. I don't look at their metrics very often at all. I read the posts.

        Since all we have is thanks, I will thank people if I agree, if I like the post, if I think it is funny...for many reason other than the value of the information.

        I've suggested other buttons but so far we just have thanks.

        And it really isn't a big deal anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author Topwriters
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      Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

      Shrugs

      Just my personal observation, but it seems that "thanks" go out a lot to posts that people agree with, regardless of whether it is something new or particularly helpful to the conversation at hand. You think all those "thanks" under my name are for saying smart things and making people money ? I'd say more than anything they're for making people chuckle.

      But whenever I think of this I stop and realize we're talking about an admittedly insignificant metric on an internet marketing forum and move on with the rest of my day. But people can be fooled by those with a bunch of thanks! True, but they're kind of asking for it unless they choose to actually check the "thanked" history to see if the posts were actually worthy of being bestowed.
      Very true!
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  • Profile picture of the author JimDucharme
    Any community which has such a feature runs into a little bit of friends thanking or repping friends and perhaps even some "buddying up." It's a human nature thing, we do it in real life too. I personally haven't noticed this being a problem such as you describe, but that's just me. From what I've seen in general, people are pretty fair and discerning with their thanks for the most part.

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  • Profile picture of the author TheWrightWords
    I'll hit thanks when I genuinely appreciate the post, or when I agree but have nothing to add -- I don't see the point in adding a whole extra post that just says "me too" or "I agree". It just makes the thread longer and doesn't add any extra info or meaning.
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    • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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      Thanks bias? They have to make you laugh, as in heh, heh, heh. Or solve your problem or be generally useful information. But making you laugh is better, much better



      THANKS

      A little boy and his grandfather are raking leaves in the yard. The little boy finds an earthworm trying to get back into it's hole. He says, "Grandpa, I bet I can put that worm back in that hole". The grandfather replies, "I'll bet you five dollars you can't. It's too wiggly and limp to put back in that little hole".

      The little boy runs into the house and comes back out with a can of hairspray. He sprays the worm until it is straight and stiff as a board. Then he puts the worm back into the hole. The grandfather hands the little boy five dollars, grabs the hairspray, and runs into the house. Thirty minutes later the grandfather comes back out and hands the little boy another five dollars. The little boy says, "Grandpa, you already gave me five dollars". The grandfather replies, "I know. That's from your grandma, and she says thanks".



      ps - the thanks button is bottom right folks . . . . . thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Cee
        Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

        Thanks bias? They have to make you laugh, as in heh, heh, heh. Or solve your problem or be generally useful information. But making you laugh is better, much better


        And judging by all the thanks you got for your post you are spot on with your theory.
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  • Profile picture of the author jsjohn96
    I agree. Someone thank me please. I am still new and need to make a reputation here.. haha

    I think people with large no. of posts have lots of experience that's why whatever they say it seems like its a good advice. But it doesn't mean that guys who doesn't have many posts are not experienced enough. I just didn't found this forum earlier.

    You all can thank me now...
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  • Profile picture of the author ceenote100
    I could care less how many posts someone has or long someone has been here. I'll thank you if you have some information that's worthwhile.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      This is hilarious - the person ranting about "thanks" has given less thanks to others than most posting in this thread.

      I'm amazed to find people look at those numbers long enough to complain about them. I never think of it - they are just numbers.

      I'm more likely to thank a newbie for a good answer or funny comment than I am to thank someone posting a long tutorial or lecture. That's my choice - and not the OP's business who I thank or why.

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  • Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts and 0 thanks given, yet when a member with a large post count posts even general, insignificant, or similar things people can't wait to thank them. :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author The Real Deal
      Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

      I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts and 0 thanks given, yet when a member with a large post count posts even general, insignificant, or similar things people can't wait to thank them. :confused:
      I have noticed this as well.

      We all want to feel appreciated and recognized for being someone special that matters in the forum. I think the thank you button does help with that. Or is it just me that gets that warm fuzzy feeling whenever someone gives me a "Thanks"?

      I would go as far as saying that some members, (at least those of us with fragile egos and insecurity issues! ), become better members after receiving some "Thanks".

      I'm serious. I have been part of some forums for more than a decade and with a few exceptions, most of the time I have been a lurker. WF is one of the few forums where I have felt that some of the stuff I have to say might actually be appreciated!

      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

      As for me, if I find a post that I think deserves thanking, I just thank it without looking at who the poster is or how long they've been a member, or how many thanks they already have.
      This is what I do as well.

      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I'm amazed to find people look at those numbers long enough to complain about them. I never think of it - they are just numbers.
      Easy for you to say, who's already got more than 5000!! :p:p
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  • Profile picture of the author Bobby Asburn
    When I found something very good from you, I should hit Thanks. Because you deserve it for your contribution.
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  • Profile picture of the author K Mec
    When they wants to thank, they thanks . If not, irrespective of how helpful you are, you will not be thanked...

    Even myself sometimes amazes when someone thanks me on very general comment...and sometimes I expect that some one will thank me for it then there is no one...

    So leave it...It just an human psychology.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Like Kay mentioned ... you've been here since 2010 and only thanked a little over 100 posts. I started out by thanking people and not worrying about being thanked and that's what I still do. When a post makes me laugh or I completely agree with it, I thank them. It has nothing to do with who it is and everything to do with whether I liked the post for one reason or another.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts and 0 thanks given

    You could have fixed that yourself by being the first to drop a well-deserved "thanks".

    Did you? And if not, why not? :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Go hang out in the SEO forum and try to get a thanks over there. You could post the secret to eternal life in the SEO forum and not get a single thanks.

    I'm not sure what it is, but they're a tough crowd.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Go hang out in the SEO forum and try to get a thanks over there. You could post the secret to eternal life in the SEO forum and not get a single thanks.

      I'm not sure what it is, but they're a tough crowd.
      Oh, Kurt, I think you know "what it is." Giving a "thanks" would rob spammers of the chance to make another worthless post just for backlinks / sig exposure.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Lenaghan
        Think of the "Thanks" button as more of a "Like" button. People click thanks as a way to say they like the post, as much as to say thanks for posting it.

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        • Profile picture of the author YourBusinessEye
          I am glad I came across this thread I am a newbie and did not understand what this thanking was all about . Now it makes more sense.


          As for me I thank someone if I found the post intresting or sometimes it is a web etiquette to thank someone for sharing some tips .

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          Think of the "Thanks" button as more of a "Like" button. People click thanks as a way to say they like the post, as much as to say thanks for posting it.

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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Curtis
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Go hang out in the SEO forum and try to get a thanks over there. You could post the secret to eternal life in the SEO forum and not get a single thanks.

      I'm not sure what it is, but they're a tough crowd.
      It's not really too hard to understand why you don't get thanks from the SEO forum.

      There are people that don't see anyone in the world but themselves. You'll find these types over-represented in the SEO forum.

      These are the people that have no scruples, that will do anything to enrich themselves, that make comments in these forums like "everyone is just in it for the money."

      Find some of the threads with topics like "Do all internet marketers lie?" and the posts that say "of course everyone lies" are made by people who rarely if ever thank anyone for anything. They care only for themselves.

      In a word they are reprobates, rogues and scoundrels, and by their thanks, or lack thereof, shall ye know them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Go hang out in the SEO forum and try to get a thanks over there. You could post the secret to eternal life in the SEO forum and not get a single thanks.

        I'm not sure what it is, but they're a tough crowd.
        Originally Posted by Dan Curtis View Post

        It's not really too hard to understand why you don't get thanks from the SEO forum.

        There are people that don't see anyone in the world but themselves. You'll find these types over-represented in the SEO forum.

        These are the people that have no scruples, that will do anything to enrich themselves, that make comments in these forums like "everyone is just in it for the money."

        Find some of the threads with topics like "Do all internet marketers lie?" and the posts that say "of course everyone lies" are made by people who rarely if ever thank anyone for anything. They care only for themselves.

        In a word they are reprobates, rogues and scoundrels, and by their thanks, or lack thereof, shall ye know them.
        Now, now just because the general atmosphere in that forum is pretty much exactly how you described it does not mean name calling is warranted for everyone that posts there.

        Besides I think a certain Mod has already voiced the future of what will happen to some of those members. Something about bees and buzz. Not sure, but it made me crave some honey, so I added a little to my coffee and pulled up a chair

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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Go hang out in the SEO forum and try to get a thanks over there. You could post the secret to eternal life in the SEO forum and not get a single thanks.

      I'm not sure what it is, but they're a tough crowd.
      I have recently discovered this secret and was going to share but will now keep it to myself if I'm not going to be 'thanked'.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cee
        Originally Posted by Karen Connell View Post

        I have recently discovered this secret and was going to share but will now keep it to myself if I'm not going to be 'thanked'.
        LOL. A funny post that deserves a thanks and so it shall have one. And please do tell because I thought I was the only one in possession of this secret :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
          Originally Posted by Cee View Post

          LOL. A funny post that deserves a thanks and so it shall have one. And please do tell because I thought I was the only one in possession of this secret :p
          I have always known the secret - I'm 159 years old!

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      • Profile picture of the author The Real Deal
        Originally Posted by Karen Connell View Post

        I have recently discovered this secret and was going to share but will now keep it to myself if I'm not going to be 'thanked'.
        Ohh please reveal the secret... I am deep in my 40-year crisis and desperately need it! Besides, I did thank you!

        As they say: Forty isn't old...if you're a tree!

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    • Profile picture of the author Trivum
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Go hang out in the SEO forum and try to get a thanks over there. You could post the secret to eternal life in the SEO forum and not get a single thanks.

      I'm not sure what it is, but they're a tough crowd.
      SEOs have been trained by Google to not believe anything ... and to be completely thankless robots that find humanity a messy inconvenience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts and 0 thanks given, yet when a member with a large post count posts even general, insignificant, or similar things people can't wait to thank them. :confused:
    Welcome to the human race.

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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts and 0 thanks given, yet when a member with a large post count posts even general, insignificant, or similar things people can't wait to thank them. :confused:
    Your thread is a great example.

    You started it bitching about the behaviour of members - negativity gets less thanks than positivity and creativity - hence some of the responses get thanks when you don't.

    It's not the post count of the people that contributes to the thanks - it's that people know what they mean and agree or at least see the value.

    Your post had zero value - so no matter how well you communicated it - bitching doesn't get many thanks.

    You can help the 'problem' by being the change you want to see.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sleika
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      You started it bitching about the behaviour of members.
      maybe im missing something, but his post come off more innocuous than that, he's from what ive seen been thanked alot and made alot of posts and was simply asking a question

      that being said, being new myself and slowly trying to contribute to the community with the limited knowledge i do have I dont expect to be thanked

      i am guilty though of being thank happy on my first couple of post because frankly was quite surprised how helpful everyone was
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        I got the opposite going on. I have such a high post count now with such low thanks that I can give a really good answer and no one wants to give me any!
        One thing you may notice if you look is that, as a general rule, people seem more likely to thank people. As in, posters who use real names.

        There are exceptions, but they tend to be members who've been here a long time and are recognizable and consistent. Black Hat Cat is an example that comes to mind.

        Familiarity is a big part of it.

        This actually relates to marketing, in a way. The things that make people thank someone are also the things that make them consider that person's perspective, and even buy from them.

        Worth looking at from that point of view. As far as the number of thanks being relevant to anything else... I don't see it.


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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by K Mec View Post

          Even myself sometimes amazes when someone thanks me on very general comment...and sometimes I expect that some one will thank me for it then there is no one...
          If someone makes a general comment that I was thinking of posting myself, I'll 'thank' the comment rather than add a meaningless post to say the same thing. In that instance, 'thanks' really means 'I agree with that.' That could be what you are seeing.
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    • Profile picture of the author shane_k
      Most of us are on this forum because we are trying to build businesses. We are trying to learn how to develop relationships with our customers, and learn how to increase our cashflow.

      And/or we are trying to make sure the bills get paid, and want to make sure that our familiy members have something to eat, and a warm place to sleep at night.

      We're not here to use this forum as a popularity contest. There are way more important things than that.

      And if there are people who are favoring certain people over other people, does it really matter?

      That's life, people just naturally form groups, and alliances, with those who make them laugh, or with those who think along the same lines as they do.

      That's their choice and right.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigballin6161
    I got the opposite going on. I have such a high post count now with such low thanks that I can give a really good answer and no one wants to give me any!
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    This place just gets weirder all the time.
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      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      This place just gets weirder all the time.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Lenaghan
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      This place just gets weirder all the time.
      This thread is totally going to win if that post gets the most thanks

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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        This thread is totally going to win if that post gets the most thanks
        [splorf!]

        No chance. HornyDevil has that one locked up.

        I am just consistently bemused at the interpretations people will attach to things. Especially when they have the necessary raw data to disprove their own assumptions.

        Group dynamics 101: Cliques happen. This is neither sinister nor surprising. The larger the group, the more of them form. Including the clique that forms to bash the other cliques.

        Anyone who's made it through high school should be aware of this. It's not new, it's not unique to this place, and it's not something that is ever likely to go away.

        Ascribing conspiratorial motives to a natural tendency in large groups is just silly. It also demonstrates a serious lack of understanding of common social structures.


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        • Profile picture of the author The Real Deal
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          I am just consistently bemused at the interpretations people will attach to things. Especially when they have the necessary raw data to disprove their own assumptions.

          Group dynamics 101: Cliques happen. This is neither sinister nor surprising. The larger the group, the more of them form. Including the clique that forms to bash the other cliques.

          Anyone who's made it through high school should be aware of this. It's not new, it's not unique to this place, and it's not something that is ever likely to go away.

          Ascribing conspiratorial motives to a natural tendency in large groups is just silly. It also demonstrates a serious lack of understanding of common social structures
          Some of us just never did understand how those "cliques" formed and why we weren't part of them. We did our best to contribute and be a valuable part of the group but just never felt we fit in anyway. (That doesn't mean we don't understand that they exist)

          We just had to do lots of other stuff to compensate for not being part of the "clique"...
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by The Real Deal View Post

            Some of us just never did understand how those "cliques" formed and why we weren't part of them. We did our best to contribute and be a valuable part of the group but just never felt we fit in anyway. (That doesn't mean we don't understand that they exist)

            We just had to do lots of other stuff to compensate for not being part of the "clique"...
            Familiarity is a big part of it. I don't call the people that I've come to like and respect a clique. I call them friends. I know their names, I trust their products. I like the things they say on the forum. I agree with them most of the time. They have a great sense of humor.

            These are all things that are common to the people I like and respect here. You've been here a year and I've only noticed a few posts from you. Haven't noticed anything negative, but barely know who you are.
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            • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
              I'm startin a fiverr gig - 100 Thanks for $5.00!
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        • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
          I couldn't give a rip what your post count is or how long you've been here. If you give me something of value I thank you. That value could be information I need, a good laugh, a link to some free tool that's cool etc..

          But your post count doesn't mean squat to me.

          Now, there are a few people who I have thanked several times like Alexa Smith not because she has a high post count but because she typically is a voice of reason. Or with Andy Henry or Bill Plat for basically the same reason... they are voices of reason when others are spewing insanity.

          With them as well as others, their post count likely coincides with experience. So, when they talk they are actually worth listening to.

          My two cents.
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            When I wrote "us" I was talking about those of us who were never really part of the cool crowd in high school, despite trying to "fit in".
            Ah. Well, then, ignore most of what I said in response.

            Might still be useful for some else, though.


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            • Profile picture of the author fin
              Who cares?

              People get more thanks because they've been here a long time.
              People receive more replies because they have helped people out before.
              People get more blog comments because they're successful.
              People promote their products because they've built up friendships with people.
              People make more money because they've been doing it longer than other people.
              People get more tweets and likes because they have more visitors.
              People get more visitors because they have been around a longer time.
              People get more holidays when they have been at a company longer.
              People make more money when they have been at a company longer.
              People have a better body because they have been training longer than you.
              People receive better grades because they study longer than you.

              See where I'm going?

              Stick with something and you will eventually see success, no matter what it is.

              There are no magic pills to get better at something overnight.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      This place just gets weirder all the time.
      Ahh, but it makes for such interesting and entertaining reading.

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    • Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      This place just gets weirder all the time.
      I think we have a real shot at surrealism.

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    When you think someone is a god among men that tends to happen
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    People tend to be nicer with those who they think
    are experienced. Not just here but everywhere. There's
    nothing we can do about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    Favouritism my stern. In the topsy-turvy world of cyber sadomasochism, the unwritten rule is if you can't spank the ones you love, thank the ones you loathe.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    When is Allen going to implement the "Kiss-My-A**!!!" button? Or the "Sticks-And-Stones-May-Break-My-Bones...yadda yadda" button?

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      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      When is Allen going to implement the "Kiss-My-A**!!!" button? Or the "Sticks-And-Stones-May-Break-My-Bones...yadda yadda" button?
      Yes, that last one: that's the one I'm specifically awaiting.

      Because, of course, I'm far too well-mannered to ask for the "Yah-Boo, Sucks" button.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sleika
      Just in the spirit of this thread, would it be beneficial to have like/dont like option much like reddit where relevant or intriguing post make it the top and others fall down .. may cut down on the reduntant post and promote the better ones

      i can see how this can be abused but would hope the community at large would make the right choice, may cut down on the same threads showing up without someone doing a search first

      edit: being a marketing forum, do see how people commenting to promote sigs links wouldnt like it, easy one off comments on the current thread

      edit2: just dawned on me thats why this is the free portion of the forum
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  • Profile picture of the author Prosper2day
    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts and 0 thanks given, yet when a member with a large post count posts even general, insignificant, or similar things people can't wait to thank them. :confused:
    I feel you on that 1.

    It feels as though some good info gets no love here I'm gonna thank you for asking the hard questions.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by Prosper2day View Post

      I feel you on that 1.

      It feels as though some good info gets no love here I'm gonna thank you for asking the hard questions.
      The problem with that philosophy is that "good info" is in the eye of the reader. Not everyone will have the same definition for what is good, it depends on their level in that particular area.

      Take the second portion of your post where you say the OP asked the hard question.

      I don't consider that question hard at all. I think the hard question would be why the OP is questioning the lack of thanks given to some posts while in the approximate 2 years he's been here, he's only thanked 85 posts.

      When you look at the staggering amount of posts made on the WF within a given year, his total is quite minute in comparison.

      Originally Posted by Perrymma View Post

      When you think someone is a god among men that tends to happen
      Um, not so.

      If this were true, the number of thanks I've given would be a big fat zero.

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      • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post


        . . . . . I don't consider that question hard at all. I think the hard question would be why the OP is questioning the lack of thanks given to some posts while in the approximate 2 years he's been here, he's only thanked 85 posts.

        When you look at the staggering amount of posts made on the WF within a given year, his total is quite minute in comparison. . . .
        Terra

        Would beg to differ Terra.

        A users number of posts compared to the number of 'thanks' he/she has given is totally irrelevant. As has been mentioned earlier (many times), 'thanks' are dished out entirely at the discretion of the issuer, and what they imagine as either value, quality, humour, or whatever . . . is perceived in their eyes, and their eyes alone. No two people are alike.

        My 'thanks' count is probably worse than the OP's, but perhaps I set a more stringent criteria than most before drifting to the right hand button. Does that mean I appreciate certain informative posts any less than someone who has hit the 'thanks' button? I think not. I just have more qualifying criteria to my 'thanks' agenda, and perhaps don't deem it as an obligatory requisite in the majority of the threads I read.

        By the way, your posts are always stimulating and well thought out. 'Thanks'



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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

          Would beg to differ Terra.

          A users number of posts compared to the number of 'thanks' he/she has given is totally irrelevant. As has been mentioned earlier (many times), 'thanks' are dished out entirely at the discretion of the issuer, and what they imagine as either value, quality, humour, or whatever . . . is perceived in their eyes, and their eyes alone. No two people are alike.

          My 'thanks' count is probably worse than the OP's, but perhaps I set a more stringent criteria than most before drifting to the right hand button. Does that mean I appreciate certain informative posts any less than someone who has hit the 'thanks' button? I think not. I just have more qualifying criteria to my 'thanks' agenda, and perhaps don't deem it as an obligatory requisite in the majority of the threads I read.

          By the way, your posts are always stimulating and well thought out. 'Thanks'

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          I agree completely Horn Dog, er, I mean Horny Devil with the different criteria that thanks are given out by different individuals and it certainly isn't a mandate that one should have to give one little thank you if they weren't so inclined.

          And I didn't compare number of posts to number of thanks at all. I can't be bothered to do the math equation, I'm more of a words kind of girl.

          I was however, talking about the OP's number of thanks given in the time he has been a member here only because he is whining about and accusing other people of being stingy with the thanks button on some long, detailed posts. It's sort of like the pot calling the kettle black thing.

          You, however, aren't included in that statement because you aren't the OP and aren't whining about thank you counts. Therefore, you are neither the pot nor the kettle.

          By the way, your posts always either make me laugh or make me blush. Thanks! :p

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          • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            I agree completely Horn Dog, er, I mean Horny Devil with the different criteria that thanks are given out by different individuals and it certainly isn't a mandate that one should have to give one little thank you if they weren't so inclined.

            And I didn't compare number of posts to number of thanks at all. I can't be bothered to do the math equation, I'm more of a words kind of girl.

            I was however, talking about the OP's number of thanks given in the time he has been a member here only because he is whining about and accusing other people of being stingy with the thanks button on some long, detailed posts. It's sort of like the pot calling the kettle black thing.

            You, however, aren't included in that statement because you aren't the OP and aren't whining about thank you counts. Therefore, you are neither the pot nor the kettle.

            By the way, your posts always either make me laugh or make me blush. Thanks! :p

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            Goddam it, you've squeezed another 'thanks' out of me. I have my skinflint reputation to think of you know!
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            • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
              Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

              Goddam it, you've squeezed another 'thanks' out of me. I have my skinflint reputation to think of you know!
              Ha ha!

              I feel so doggone special right now. :p

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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Some of us just never did understand how those "cliques" formed and why we weren't part of them.
        Which 'us' would that be?

        You have no real name associated with your profile. Your sig links to a charity site. (Not objecting. Just mentioning.) You post an average of once every 3 days.

        Unless you're doing a lot of networking via PMs or through some medium off the forum, which is always possible, what is going to attract others to you?
        We just had to do lots of other stuff to compensate for not being part of the "clique
        You have to "compensate" for being in the same position almost everyone starts from? That kind of compensating is called "work."

        There are no forum-specific advantages to any of the cliques. You don't have to be 'in' with one crowd or the other to sell stuff, or to ask and answer questions, or to network, or to have a signature, or to develop your own reputation and relationships.

        If you move to a new city, do you say things like, "I don't understand why I'm not part of the established social circles?"


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        • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Which 'us' would that be?

          You have no real name associated with your profile. Your sig links to a charity site. (Not objecting. Just mentioning.) You post an average of once every 3 days.

          Unless you're doing a lot of networking via PMs or through some medium off the forum, which is always possible, what is going to attract others to you?You have to "compensate" for being in the same position almost everyone starts from? That kind of compensating is called "work."

          There are no forum-specific advantages to any of the cliques. You don't have to be 'in' with one crowd or the other to sell stuff, or to ask and answer questions, or to network, or to have a signature, or to develop your own reputation and relationships.

          If you move to a new city, do you say things like, "I don't understand why I'm not part of the established social circles?"

          Paul

          Couldn't have put it better myself. Well certainly not after ten pints tonight :p Mind you I won three games of chess (true). Got to take the bishop home.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Which 'us' would that be?

          You have no real name associated with your profile. Your sig links to a charity site. (Not objecting. Just mentioning.) You post an average of once every 3 days.

          Unless you're doing a lot of networking via PMs or through some medium off the forum, which is always possible, what is going to attract others to you?You have to "compensate" for being in the same position almost everyone starts from? That kind of compensating is called "work."

          There are no forum-specific advantages to any of the cliques. You don't have to be 'in' with one crowd or the other to sell stuff, or to ask and answer questions, or to network, or to have a signature, or to develop your own reputation and relationships.

          If you move to a new city, do you say things like, "I don't understand why I'm not part of the established social circles?"


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          The OP made me think "Paradigm Shift."

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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            Jeffery,

            It's possible I'm confusing cashtree with someone else with a similar non-name, but the immediate association I made with that handle was, "Consistently negative."

            The only way negative people get a lot of thanks is if they're bashing, and they usually only get them from other bashers. That's not the most productive social circle to frequent.

            So yeah. "Paradigm shift" is exactly the thing.


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            • Profile picture of the author tpw
              Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

              Jeffery,

              It's possible I'm confusing cashtree with someone else with a similar non-name, but the immediate association I made with that handle was, "Consistently negative."

              The only way negative people get a lot of thanks is if they're bashing, and they usually only get them from other bashers. That's not the most productive social circle to frequent.

              So yeah. "Paradigm shift" is exactly the thing.


              Paul

              I don't think you are confused...

              My impression is only slightly different...

              Instead of "consistently negative", I apply "frequently negative".
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              • Profile picture of the author The Real Deal
                Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                Which 'us' would that be?

                You have no real name associated with your profile. Your sig links to a charity site. (Not objecting. Just mentioning.) You post an average of once every 3 days.

                Unless you're doing a lot of networking via PMs or through some medium off the forum, which is always possible, what is going to attract others to you?You have to "compensate" for being in the same position almost everyone starts from? That kind of compensating is called "work."

                There are no forum-specific advantages to any of the cliques. You don't have to be 'in' with one crowd or the other to sell stuff, or to ask and answer questions, or to network, or to have a signature, or to develop your own reputation and relationships.
                Sorry, I wasn't clear on what I meant. (a few glasses of Rioja does that to me... )

                I didn't mean that I feel like an "outsider" here on the forum, strangely enough I actually don't.

                I was referring to this part from you earlier:

                Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                Cliques happen.
                Anyone who's made it through high school should be aware of this.
                When I wrote "us" I was talking about those of us who were never really part of the cool crowd in high school, despite trying to "fit in".

                Several people that I know who were either bullied in high school, or simply "too nerdy" to hang with the cool cliques seems to have compensated later on in life by succeeding in various other ways.

                Usually and sadly though, despite perhaps being popular and sometimes even admired later in life, those who didn't feel part of the community in high school often seem to continue to feel like "outsiders" later on in life, regardless of their success.

                Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                You've been here a year and I've only noticed a few posts from you.
                I have actually been a lurker here for a lot longer, but after being away for a couple of years I forgot my old username and not sure what email I used.

                Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                Haven't noticed anything negative, but barely know who you are.
                Funnily enough I feel like I know you really well! :p

                Originally Posted by cjreynolds View Post

                I'm startin a fiverr gig - 100 Thanks for $5.00!
                I'll take a thousand then! <just kidding>
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            • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
              Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

              Jeffery,

              It's possible I'm confusing cashtree with someone else with a similar non-name, but the immediate association I made with that handle was, "Consistently negative."

              The only way negative people get a lot of thanks is if they're bashing, and they usually only get them from other bashers. That's not the most productive social circle to frequent.

              So yeah. "Paradigm shift" is exactly the thing.


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              My thoughts about the handle as well. There is a vague familiarity, but at this stage I can't sure. Time will tell.

              What I do fancy is you do a darn fine job of seeing the slightest of social signals that could shift the circles and the forum posture. And an equally fine job of making it go away. Otherwise the end result would be social chaos in my opinion.

              You don't get enough recognition for that and I mean that in a good way.

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              • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                Jeffery,

                On behalf of the mods, thanks.

                We mostly just leave things alone, though. We get after the destructively negative stuff when needed, but that's just moderating. The members set the tone here.

                If the bashers don't tone it down, though, I'm going to give the conspiracy theorists something to really chatter about. I've often considered declaring a month-long "nuke on sight" ban on any and all gripefests. The constant repetition of the same inane and/or insane arguments and illogic gets wearing after a while.

                That'd put some buzz in the bees.


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                • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
                  Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                  Jeffery,

                  On behalf of the mods, thanks.

                  We mostly just leave things alone, though. We get after the destructively negative stuff when needed, but that's just moderating. The members set the tone here.

                  If the bashers don't tone it down, though, I'm going to give the conspiracy theorists something to really chatter about. I've often considered declaring a month-long "nuke on sight" ban on any and all gripefests. The constant repetition of the same inane and/or insane arguments and illogic gets wearing after a while.

                  That'd put some buzz in the bees.


                  Paul

                  ..month-long "nuke on sight" ban on any and all gripefests.

                  That'd put some buzz in the bees.

                  ^ ^

                  I guess that would make the I.P. for "Valhalla Mountains" popular for a month or so

                  Seriously though why not. If people can thank others in an honest way, yet be bashed by the bashers, then bashers can be banned in an honest way.

                  Maybe its time for the bashers to man up and realize that bashing can also be degrading and humiliating to others which in my opinion has no place here. Thats just me speaking from the way I was brought up and my own perspective of some of the bashing I have seen in life. No good ever came out of it from what I observed.

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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    Heh. Yipes, when I joined way back in 2008, I busted my fatcheeks to get street-cred, yo, even going so far as cutting my hair and changing my name. Look where it got me. *Bows head in shame*

    I, too, blamed it on the those elusive cliques. But instead of spending my energy moaning in threads, I decided to do what all good outcasts do and channelled my chameleon talents into writing a song that may or may not have been subconsciously inspired by that of another well-known band... yet so much better.

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    When I logged on today,
    No-one knew my name,
    I'm just so unknown here,
    I wanna be the same;
    
    And you you're treated like you're famous,
    In a Hollywood film,
    I wish I was special,
    You're so freakin' special;
    
    But I'm a creep,
    I'm a stranger,
    What the heck am I doin' here?
    I don't belong here;
    
    I don't care if it hurts,
    I just wanna have control;
    A respectable "Thanks" count,
    I wanna have it all;
    
    I want y'all to notice,
    When I come around,
    I want y'all to thank me,
    I wanna do you proud;
    
    I wanna gain entry,
    To the inside of your clique,
    I want you to listen,
    And nod when I speak;
    
    I want you to praise me,
    When my posts astound,
    You're so freakin' special
    I wish I was special;
    
    But I'm a creep,
    I'm a stranger,
    What the heck am I doing here?
    I don't belong here,
    Ohhhh, ohhh,
    I'm starting a clique.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    When I wrote "us" I was talking about those of us who were never really part of the cool crowd in high school, despite trying to "fit in".
    Not so sure. When I first read that I actually typed a reply, but decided to delete it because my own impression could be wrong. I was going to say it sounded like someone who felt like an outsider looking in. Not saying that is good or bad. Sometimes the people on the inside are desperately trying to get out.

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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by huuhn06 View Post

    article very interesting and meaningful

    LOLz

    Future spammer in training? :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Bill,
      Future spammer in training? :rolleyes:
      One of the new crop of Vietnamese spammers that have been showing up lately. Hanoi, most likely, although one geolocator shows him as being in Dak Lak Province.

      Over time, these things tend to go in waves. At one point, almost all the spam here was from Malaysia and the Philippines. Then the SEO spam migrated first to India, and then a part of it to Pakistan. Still a lot of both, and they're the bane of the SEO section. Whole threads pop up there with nothing but spammers talking past each other for the link juice.

      Bangladesh is the biggest source of SEO garbage here outside of India.

      Western Africa, especially Nigeria and Cote d'Ivoire, have remained pretty consistent. A few legit members amidst a flood of every kind of scammer imaginable.

      What there are of fraudulent sales offers have always come mostly from the US, UK, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Indonesia. The Netherlands gets an honorable mention there. Sprinklings from every corner of the world, of course, but those are the big ones.

      The fashion spam, electronics knockoffs, credit card dumps, and some of the cookie stuffers, come largely from China. The cookie stuffers probably just post through proxies or paid services there, though. The sources are probably US, UK, and Canadian affiliates. The various services involved could speak to that more authoritatively. They won't - and shouldn't - give me specifics on that stuff.

      And we get mixed spams and scams from Eastern Europe, although not as much as we used to. I wouldn't buy software or themes that originated there, though, unless I knew the creator really well. Hackdoors abound.

      The majority of the malevolent trolls are American, with the UK a close second. No other country is even in the same ballpark as those two on that score, although Dubai and the UAE are making moves.

      We have positive, contributing members from nearly every country on the planet. The interesting thing isn't that there are crooks in every country so much as that the type of scammery tends to be relatively consistent within cultures.


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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        ...
        We have positive, contributing members from nearly every country on the planet. The interesting thing isn't that there are crooks in every country so much as that the type of scammery tends to be relatively consistent within cultures.

        Paul
        Thanks for that. Interesting indeed. So much so that to the trained eye it literally gives the amateurs away. That is to say that there are also pros that are difficult to put a thumb on, but doable.

        Brazil? I'm surprised its not on the list. Unless I missed it.

        Bill, you are not too far off the beaten path. In my experience, amateur spammers can sometimes be turned, but those that I could not help often graduate to bashers. Worse case scenario they go on to become both a spammer and a basher. Deadly for boards. Actually, can go either way.

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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Jeffery,

          Brazil isn't a problem in our corner of the world yet.

          There are pros you can't catch with the information we can get through the forum. Just like there are amateurs who can do a lot of damage through sheer persistence. It's just part of life in the LAMP lane.

          I would absolutely love to see a few of these people stricken with total digital aphasia. A complete mental inability to even comprehend the notion of electronic communication.

          Barring that, I can think of less benign consequences that would be acceptable.


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          • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Jeffery,

            Brazil isn't a problem in our corner of the world yet.

            There are pros you can't catch with the information we can get through the forum. Just like there are amateurs who can do a lot of damage through sheer persistence. It's just part of life in the LAMP lane.

            I would absolutely love to see a few of these people stricken with total digital aphasia. A complete mental inability to even comprehend the notion of electronic communication.

            Barring that, I can think of less benign consequences that would be acceptable.

            Paul
            Thanks for the info about Brazil. Surprises me though.

            Sometimes its just better for the community as a whole to just click the button. When that is not practical given the consequences at least it is a good thing to contain them even if they don't know they are being contained. Art of War - I think. Or maybe it was something I overheard my mom say

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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              Jeffery,
              Thanks for the info about Brazil. Surprises me though.
              Surprised me, too, until I looked into the languages spoken there. English is not very commonly spoken in Brazil, and this forum is useless to anyone who doesn't read and write English with some fluency.
              contain them even if they don't know they are being contained
              "Ve haff vays uff makink you not talk."
              Art of War - I think. Or maybe it was something I overheard my mom say
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Bill,One of the new crop of Vietnamese spammers that have been showing up lately. Hanoi, most likely, although one geolocator shows him as being in Dak Lak Province.

        Over time, these things tend to go in waves. At one point, almost all the spam here was from Malaysia and the Philippines. Then the SEO spam migrated first to India, and then a part of it to Pakistan. Still a lot of both, and they're the bane of the SEO section. Whole threads pop up there with nothing but spammers talking past each other for the link juice.

        Bangladesh is the biggest source of SEO garbage here outside of India.

        Western Africa, especially Nigeria and Cote d'Ivoire, have remained pretty consistent. A few legit members amidst a flood of every kind of scammer imaginable.

        What there are of fraudulent sales offers have always come mostly from the US, UK, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Indonesia. The Netherlands gets an honorable mention there. Sprinklings from every corner of the world, of course, but those are the big ones.

        The fashion spam, electronics knockoffs, credit card dumps, and some of the cookie stuffers, come largely from China. The cookie stuffers probably just post through proxies or paid services there, though. The sources are probably US, UK, and Canadian affiliates. The various services involved could speak to that more authoritatively. They won't - and shouldn't - give me specifics on that stuff.

        And we get mixed spams and scams from Eastern Europe, although not as much as we used to. I wouldn't buy software or themes that originated there, though, unless I knew the creator really well. Hackdoors abound.

        The majority of the malevolent trolls are American, with the UK a close second. No other country is even in the same ballpark as those two on that score, although Dubai and the UAE are making moves.

        We have positive, contributing members from nearly every country on the planet. The interesting thing isn't that there are crooks in every country so much as that the type of scammery tends to be relatively consistent within cultures.


        Paul
        Whoa!

        I never dreamed that I would wake up to a geographical spamming trend lesson. Why, I'm feeling so much smarter already! :p

        Actually, that was rather interesting.

        I guess we can tell what type of eBooks and eCourses are big sellers in those particular countries.

        Terra
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          If the bashers don't tone it down, though, I'm going to give the conspiracy theorists something to really chatter about. I've often considered declaring a month-long "nuke on sight" ban on any and all gripefests. The constant repetition of the same inane and/or insane arguments and illogic gets wearing after a while.

          That'd put some buzz in the bees.


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          • Profile picture of the author Sleika
            cant believe this thread is 100+

            the thanks button obvioulsy is a polarizing issue whether you want blame the OP for his lack of using it or not

            i have to believe the intent at first was to " thank " people that were contributing and think thats what the OP was getting at ( haven gone through his post so no idea if he has or not ) .. maybe trolling for all i know

            would it not be better to have a like/dislike option to promote good post and bad posts drop down, could still have thanks, would this not better organize the post in relevant content
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            • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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              Originally Posted by Sleika View Post

              cant believe this thread is 100+

              the thanks button obvioulsy is a polarizing issue whether you want blame the OP for his lack of using it or not

              i have to believe the intent at first was to " thank " people that were contributing and think thats what the OP was getting at ( haven gone through his post so no idea if he has or not ) .. maybe trolling for all i know

              would it not be better to have a like/dislike option to promote good post and bad posts drop down, could still have thanks, would this not better organize the post in relevant content
              The Reddit upvote/downvote system wouldn't work here (I'm pretty sure you already asked on that earlier in the thread). Good content is subjective. In a case where people are looking to be entertained (and want their egos stoked with sweet sweet karma), being able to feature and bury content is a good idea.

              The problem on the WF is this: people come here to learn. They ask legitimate questions (and yes, they repeat in cycles but as long as it is not 5 times a day like I saw with "checking originality" the other day it's not too bad) that a bunch of forum regulars might choose to downvote because they don't feel like seeing it again. That poor newbie just got screwed. Then you have the whole "clique" thing mentioned. Someone could raise a completely valid point against something like article marketing (which I do) and I and my "clique" could theoretically hide a good point from the eyes of people it could benefit simply because I disagree with it.

              Too many problems to make the system worthwhile in my opinion.
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              • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

                The Reddit upvote/downvote system wouldn't work here (I'm pretty sure you already asked on that earlier in the thread). Good content is subjective. In a case where people are looking to be entertained (and want their egos stoked with sweet sweet karma), being able to feature and bury content is a good idea.

                The problem on the WF is this: people come here to learn. They ask legitimate questions (and yes, they repeat in cycles but as long as it is not 5 times a day like I saw with "checking originality" the other day) that a bunch of forum regulars might choose to downvote because they don't feel like seeing it again. That poor newbie just got screwed. Then you have the whole "clique" thing mentioned. Someone could raise a completely valid point against something like article marketing (which I do) and I and my "clique" could theoretically hide a good point from the eyes of people it could benefit simply because I disagree with it.

                Too many problems to make the system worthwhile in my opinion.
                Here's another problem with the idea.

                Even though the tag line for the forum is "where we talk about making money", there are a lot of people who use the forum for more than just talking about it. Think there might just be an incentive to try voting up your own threads to keep your sub-niche and signature in front of people? Or voting down your competition?
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                • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                  Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

                  Here's another problem with the idea.

                  Even though the tag line for the forum is "where we talk about making money", there are a lot of people who use the forum for more than just talking about it. Think there might just be an incentive to try voting up your own threads to keep your sub-niche and signature in front of people? Or voting down your competition?
                  Good point, I didn't even think of that bit. It never comes up on Reddit because the place is staunchly against advertising/marketing in posts (when they catch someone trying to sneak a promo post past them the reaction can get downright scary). but would be a huge thing to deal with here.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                    Terra,
                    Why, I'm feeling so much smarter already!
                    Just wait until I explain 'Pizzaplicity!'

                    John,
                    Ala Dave Barry
                    A personal favorite. Except for that whole "Is in a band with Stephen King" thing.

                    Sleika,
                    the thanks button obviously is a polarizing issue
                    I'm not seeing that. The only issue that seems to have raised really strong feelings is the perception that cashtree was whining in his original comments. And even that is hardly what I'd call polarizing.

                    Fluff,
                    I think we have a real shot at surrealism.
                    Think of the copywriting section. Then think of OT. Then put both of those in the same place in your head.

                    I can't decide if that's more Dali or Palin...


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                    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                      'Pizzaplicity!'
                      Go on.....
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                    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
                      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                      I can't decide if that's more Dali or Palin...
                      Michael?

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                      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                        Michael?
                        Ooops.

                        Yes. I forgot about the other one.
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                        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                          Ooops.

                          Yes. I forgot about the other one.
                          You mean 'Bristol the Pistol'? :p

                          "Don't get pregnant in high school, or you might have to Dance with the Stars, cash the checks from your own reality show or put up with a $20k/gig speaking tour."
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                    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                      Terra,Just wait until I explain 'Pizzaplicity!'

                      Paul
                      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                      You can get TWO DiGiorno pizzas for the price of 10,000 fake Facebook likes!
                      Huh? That's it?

                      Not only am I disappointed, but am suddenly craving Pizza!

                      I'm going to make a phone call, order some for dinner, and have it delivered to my doorstep.

                      See the simplicity of the process... Now that's what I call 'Pizzaplicity!'

                      Terra
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                      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                        Huh? That's it?

                        Not only am I disappointed, but am suddenly craving Pizza!

                        I'm going to make a phone call, order some for dinner, and have it delivered to my doorstep.

                        See the simplicity of the process... Now that's what I call 'Pizzaplicity!'

                        Terra
                        Might I recommend Papa John's? Sign up for their rewards program (if you're not already in it), spend at least $10 and enter this promo code: NBCPAPA. The next day your account will have the 25 free points needed for a free pizza (up to 3 toppings) that can be used until 9/30.

                        And that's why Papa John's is one of the few email lists I enjoy being on. I knew about that deal four days ago, and the general public won't know until tomorrow night .
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                        That seems...precipitate.

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              • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
                Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

                The Reddit upvote/downvote system wouldn't work here (I'm pretty sure you already asked on that earlier in the thread). Good content is subjective. In a case where people are looking to be entertained (and want their egos stoked with sweet sweet karma), being able to feature and bury content is a good idea.

                The problem on the WF is this: people come here to learn. They ask legitimate questions (and yes, they repeat in cycles but as long as it is not 5 times a day like I saw with "checking originality" the other day it's not too bad) that a bunch of forum regulars might choose to downvote because they don't feel like seeing it again. That poor newbie just got screwed. Then you have the whole "clique" thing mentioned. Someone could raise a completely valid point against something like article marketing (which I do) and I and my "clique" could theoretically hide a good point from the eyes of people it could benefit simply because I disagree with it.

                Too many problems to make the system worthwhile in my opinion.
                I wonder how long it would be before someone started selling 'votes' on fiverr if this system were to become part of WF.

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                • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                  Originally Posted by Karen Connell View Post

                  I wonder how long it would be before someone started selling 'votes' on fiverr if this system were to become part of WF.

                  Karen
                  It would be no different than people blowing money on Facebook likes and Twitter followers: the big number makes the buyer feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside; but at the end of the day they wasted money and still have no friends .

                  So much value placed on trivial things lol...
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  • Profile picture of the author JabMonkey
    I don't think "thanks" matter at all, but that is my opinion. I remember seeing a woman here some months back post a WSO as a newbie. She had proof she was a millionaire and got a lot of attention and sales - and still does. Some did question her "newness", but she quickly got over that hump.
    People can tell if you are the genuine item or not within a short time. Thanks may eliminate some of the initial curiosity, but I don't know that it helps with anything beyond that.
    Personally, I prefer not to live at the WF. I just want to visit now and then. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts and 0 thanks given, yet when a member with a large post count posts even general, insignificant, or similar things people can't wait to thank them. :confused:
    A better question is why do you care so much about being validated by strangers on the internet?

    Post helpful and relevant content and the "thanks" come naturally. My "thanked" count is proof of that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sleika
      Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke View Post

      Post helpful and relevant content
      wasnt that his point
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Sleika View Post

        wasnt that his point
        Not really. His point was a little whiny bitch fest that people don't do what he also doesn't do. :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Sleika
          really, this thread has turned into a whiny bitch fest ... when i first read it came across as why people with low post counts dont get thanked, couldnt really care less myself, going to try to contribute the best i can, thanks or not .. but seems everyone is attacking a harmless question or making sure they get a sig link in a popular post
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          • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
            Originally Posted by Sleika View Post

            wasnt that his point
            No, not even a little bit.
            Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

            Not really. His point was a little whiny bitch fest that people don't do what he also doesn't do. :rolleyes:
            This.
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          • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
            Originally Posted by Sleika View Post

            really, this thread has turned into a whiny bitch fest ... when i first read it came across as why people with low post counts dont get thanked, couldnt really care less myself, going to try to contribute the best i can, thanks or not .. but seems everyone is attacking a harmless question or making sure they get a sig link in a popular post
            I would say "started as".

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            • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
              Originally Posted by Patrick Batty View Post


              I think there's a bit of "suck uppage" going on with some of the big guys..
              I think there are some entertaining posts or highly relevant information going on with some of the "big guys" (who ever that is, lol).
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  • Profile picture of the author Sleika
    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts
    nope, thats not what he said
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Sleika View Post

      nope, thats not what he said
      Well, what you seem to be failing to get is that he has been here almost 2 years and only doled out 85 thanks himself. Seems like a pretty unthankful person to me. So, it's basically a pot > kettle situation.

      In addition, each person has their own opinion on what is a valuable post and what is not a valuable post, so someone can blather on for 2,000 words and not say anything valuable to me, while others may think the OP walks on water.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Sorry to disappoint you, OP, but there have been times when I have done the exact opposite of what you suggest. That's right, I have purposely given thanks to people with low post counts, just hoping to put a smile on their face for a few moments.

    Of course the post still needs to warrant a "thanks" from me, but there are a lot of reasons why I do so. Here are a few...

    1. Agreeing with a post.
    2. A post that makes look at something in a new light.
    3. Being in complete disagreement, but the poster was thoughtful and polite in how they disagreed with me.
    4. Making me laugh.
    5. Making me think.
    6. Handling a rude member in a particularly worthy way.
    7. Giving useful advice.
    8. Answering a question for me.
    9. Taking the time to respond to one of my posts.
    10. Or, as in this thread, pointing out the hypocrisy of the OP.

    That being said, I still tend to give more "thanks" to the people I know. I believe this is natural. The reason is that I have a better idea of who they are, and by extension, the intent of their posts. Think about it.

    All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    This went to 90 posts? You guys love to talk WF stats. I think I'm going to write the WF version of Moneyball. Should obviously be a big hit (I just need to find a way to make sure the metrics all make me look good...) .
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

      This went to 90 posts?
      I was thinking this.

      Pretty often it's the threads at which I take a quick look and think "That won't still be here in an hour" that make it to second and even third pages some time the following day.

      On the other hand, threads like this, with so many good points made, some of them quite amusingly, are just the kind that make you "run out of thanks for the day" and traipse off to Oklahoma to join Bill Platt's harmonica choir ...
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      • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I was thinking this.

        Pretty often it's the threads at which I take a quick look and think "That won't still be here in an hour" that make it to second and even third pages some time the following day.

        On the other hand, threads like this, with so many good points made, some of them quite amusingly, are just the kind that make you "run out of thanks for the day" and traipse off to Oklahoma to join Bill Platt's harmonica choir ...

        Keep posting Alexa. Your new avatar is the best cure I've seen for insomnia in years. If the glare doesn't blind a person and shut their eyes in 30 seconds then they must have been first in the NHS queue for glass eyes
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I was thinking this.

        Pretty often it's the threads at which I take a quick look and think "That won't still be here in an hour" that make it to second and even third pages some time the following day.

        On the other hand, threads like this, with so many good points made, some of them quite amusingly, are just the kind that make you "run out of thanks for the day" and traipse off to Oklahoma to join Bill Platt's harmonica choir ...
        Any post that leads to users thinking "Oklahoma would be a good idea" should be stricken from the record to ensure public safety.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          A better question is why do you care so much about being validated by strangers on the internet?
          I think some people spend their entire lives trying to "fit in". It's sad - because the "cool guys" in high school, the "clique" at work, and people who give or get "thanks" on a forum....aren't trying to fit in at all.

          They are simply living, working and doing their thing. They aren't looking for someone to "follow" and aren't jealous of what others have or do - and perhaps that's what makes them "cool".

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    And now you got "thanks" for posting this. There you go.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    Thanks/Rep/Likes.. all of these systems are abused on forums.

    And its not just WF. Its ANY forum.

    I'm admin on a gaming site & some of the stuff we see over there is insane.

    People starting "rep" groups to boost their rep power.

    It got to the point where each person of the group was able to add 8 green bars of rep (positive) to someone, just from "repping" them ONCE.

    They could also take 4 bars away from someone, OR add 4 red bars of rep (negative) to a new member.

    Needless to say, they got reset.

    And Paul - I too would like to learn more about this 'pizzaplicity' thing you speak of.. I love pizza <3
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      I too would like to learn more about this 'pizzaplicity' thing you speak of..
      You can get TWO DiGiorno pizzas for the price of 10,000 fake Facebook likes!
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      I dont do fake likes
      More money for pizza!

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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        You can get TWO DiGiorno pizzas for the price of 10,000 fake Facebook likes!
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        More money for pizza!

        DiG <3 U
        The one with the cookies?
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          What do they gain by thanking those the high posters?
          Bupkus. Zip. Nada. Nothing.

          You've reversed the order of things. You don't thank someone expecting something. You thank someone for something they've already done.

          It is just amazing to me how many people want to assign questionable motives to a simple matter of social grace.


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          • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            It is just amazing to me how many people want to assign questionable motives to a simple matter of social grace.
            Fall-out of the internet age? Nothing is real, everything is a ploy?
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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              Fall-out of the internet age? Nothing is real, everything is a ploy?
              That's certainly part of the thinking for some people. For some, it's an attempt to assign a profit motive to something that doesn't have one. That results in ... odd ... conclusions.

              And for some, it's a reflection of their own approach to all things digital. People tend to look for their own defining traits in others. The reality of just how different we can all be escapes them.


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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

          The one with the cookies?
          Cookies? There are cookies?

          Why wasn't I informed of this???
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          • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Cookies? There are cookies?

            Why wasn't I informed of this???
            Cheese with Chocolate Chip Cookies

            I had the sinking feeling that the cookies would suck (it just seemed too good to be true) but they were very good as far as non-homemade goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts and 0 thanks given, yet when a member with a large post count posts even general, insignificant, or similar things people can't wait to thank them. :confused:
    Originally Posted by Sleika View Post

    cant believe this thread is 100+

    the thanks button obvioulsy is a polarizing issue whether you want blame the OP for his lack of using it or not

    i have to believe the intent at first was to " thank " people that were contributing and think thats what the OP was getting at ( haven gone through his post so no idea if he has or not ) .. maybe trolling for all i know

    I brought back the Original Post, because there seems to be some confusion.

    There are two complaints in the OP:

    1. People aren't thanking new people for good information;
    2. People are too quick to thank long-time, high post-count members, sometimes for worthless comments.

    His complaint is against those people "who most often hit the Thanks button." He seems to feel that certain people are thanking all of the wrong people and not thanking those who deserve recognition.

    As an aside, we can only Thank posts 25 times in a 24-hour period. There are people in this thread I want to thank now, but I cannot, because I have exhausted my Thanks count for the current 24-hour period.

    {Paul... Cue the harmonica choir... LOL}

    Many of us are familiar with the Original Poster (cashtree)... He complains a lot... He is a "glass half empty" type of person...

    As has been described in several posts within this thread, there are many reasons why people choose to hit the Thanks button.

    I thank those who:

    * teach me something I believe useful;
    * I appreciate;
    * I agree with;
    * make me laugh.

    {Harmonica Choir} Nearly every day that I come into the forum, I give away my full count of Thanks on 3 or 4 threads.

    I come into the forum every few days for a half an hour or a couple hours, then I leave again.

    I will never see every post that deserves a Thanks, and even if I do see one that deserves a Thanks, I often run out of my daily quota!!

    That is why I turned the OP questions back to cashtree, because he is seeing these posts that are very deserving of Thanks, and instead of thanking it himself, he seems to be accusing folks like me of "playing favorites".

    People have a choice in life... They can be part of the problem or part of the solution...

    Complainers are NEVER part of the solution!!
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      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Many of us are familiar with the Original Poster (cashtree)... He complains a lot... He is a "glass half empty" type of person...
      didnt know this part
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        Many of us are familiar with the Original Poster (cashtree)... He complains a lot... He is a "glass half empty" type of person...
        Originally Posted by Sleika View Post

        didnt know this part

        I suspected that you did not know that.

        This is the reason I mentioned it.
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      Originally Posted by tpw View Post


      Build a man a fire and keep him warm for a night.

      Set a man on fire and keep him warm for the rest of his life.
      What a disgusting joke, and to think that I laughed out loud when I read it. And I'm going to steal it too. Shame on me.
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        Originally Posted by Dan Curtis View Post

        What a disgusting joke, and to think that I laughed out loud when I read it. And I'm going to steal it too. Shame on me.
        Dan Riffle already uses a variation as his sig .
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    I always pay THANKS for informational and inspiring posts. This courage the warrior to share more information with others.
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      Originally Posted by Rodger Hood View Post

      I always pay THANKS for informational and inspiring posts. This courage the warrior to share more information with others.
      Thanks Given: 0

      Yep, anyways :rolleyes:.
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          Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

          Boy I'm getting slow, I think I should hire a VA just to do my typing.
          Joe Robinson-The Usain Bolt of typing (as long as it's against the other Joseph)
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            Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

            Joe Robinson-The Usain Bolt of typing (as long as it's against the other Joseph)
            Yeah, but he's hindered by his amazing technicolour dreamcoat.
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  • Profile picture of the author galmiar
    I guess it just boils donw to manners. Don't it persoanlly that you have taken the time out to be helpful and they don't thank you where it is probably due, that reflects badly on them not you

    Although it is odd that some not particulary helpful posts get lots of thanks, maybe it is like what someone hinted - people just want to get in others good books...
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    Originally Posted by galmiar View Post

    I guess it just boils donw to manners. Don't it persoanlly that you have taken the time out to be helpful and they don't thank you where it is probably due, that reflects badly on them not you

    Although it is odd that some not particulary helpful posts get lots of thanks, maybe it is like what someone hinted - people just want to get in others good books...

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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Maybe the OP is more about a "cry for attention" than anything else. When a person feels lonely or lost or even like a small fish in an ocean full of big fish they often feel neglected. That usually comes in the perceived response or lack of from the community.

    Eventually some of these folks cry out for attention. In the OPs offline circles it could be a person that is the center of attention, but in online circles they are alienated to a huge extent.

    It many ways that can lead to destruction on many levels.

    However, this is not about that me thinks. My sense of this post and the others with a alt-handle says it goes much deeper. Not a sense of conspiracy, but rather a sense of "change".

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      Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

      Maybe the OP is more about a "cry for attention" than anything else. When a person feels lonely or lost or even like a small fish in an ocean full of big fish they often feel neglected. That usually comes in the perceived response or lack of from the community.

      Eventually some of these folks cry out for attention. In our offline circles it could be a person that is the center of attention, but in online circles they are alienated to a huge extent.

      It many ways that can lead to destruction on many levels.
      To address this hypothetical: to those who are worried about their thanks and feel "alienated" there is a simple solution.

      Participate and don't be a dickweed.

      Want to be in a clique? Interact with that clique. Does that clique reject you or worse insult and degrade you? Then they are dickweeds and you don't want to be part of that clique anyways.

      It's social interaction at it's most basic people. Nobody is going to handle it for you, just like waiting around in high school for one of the cool kids to suddenly notice what a great person you were never worked out.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

        To address this hypothetical: to those who are worried about their thanks and feel "alienated" there is a simple solution.

        Participate and don't be a dickweed.

        Want to be in a clique? Interact with that clique. Does that clique reject you or worse insult and degrade you? Then they are dickweeds and you don't want to be part of that clique anyways.

        It's social interaction at it's most basic people. Nobody is going to handle it for you, just like waiting around in high school for one of the cool kids to suddenly notice what a great person you were never worked out.
        Direct and wise words sir.

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          Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

          Direct and wise words sir.

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          LOL Joe is too young to truly be considered "wise". :p
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          • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            LOL Joe is too young to truly be considered "wise". :p

            Why must you take my moment away from me?
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      Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

      Maybe the OP is more about a "cry for attention" than anything else. When a person feels lonely or lost or even like a small fish in an ocean full of big fish they often feel neglected. That usually comes in the perceived response or lack of from the community.
      That's a possibility. When I first starting posting here, I didn't know anyone and all of my posts were ignored, even the ones that asked questions. It didn't stop me though and it didn't really bother me. I just got a weirder avatar and kept on posting and I have developed what I feel are friendships, albeit online where you never really meet face to face.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        That's a possibility. When I first starting posting here, I didn't know anyone and all of my posts were ignored, even the ones that asked questions. It didn't stop me though and it didn't really bother me. I just got a weirder avatar and kept on posting and I have developed what I feel are friendships, albeit online where you never really meet face to face.
        There you go. Thing is.. you always make good sense out of things that any social group can relate to. Thats how I see it anyway.

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    Complaining or not it's true, in pretty much everything. In a society most of us just want to fit in and go with the group. It doesn't surprise me really, same thing goes for facebook likes, thumbs up, squidoo likes, and so on......... Once someone or something is popular it's much easier to go on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    LOL Joe is too young to truly be considered "wise".
    Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

    Why must you take my moment away from me?
    Joseph posted: 09-08-2012, 08:19 PM
    Jeffery posted: 09-08-2012, 09:21 PM
    Bill posted: 09-08-2012, 09:29 PM

    Someone once said something like "We all have our 15 minutes of fame.."

    So you win err.. won the moment Joe

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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

      Joseph posted: 09-08-2012, 08:19 PM
      Jeffery posted: 09-08-2012, 09:21 PM
      Bill posted: 09-08-2012, 09:29 PM

      Someone once said something like "We all have our 15 minutes of fame.."

      So you win err.. won the moment Joe

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      OMG!!!

      I am all out of Thanks!!!

      Dammit Paul... Fix This!!!

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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        Dammit Paul... Fix This!!!
        We Want 50 Thanks Per Day
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
          Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

          We Want 50 Thanks Per Day
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          OMG!!!

          I am all out of Thanks!!!

          Dammit Paul... Fix This!!!
          Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

          We Want 50 Thanks Per Day
          Increasing the Thanks Per Day would only create more work for all of us. Sheesh, slave drivers

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    Second thought.. maybe increasing it only for Joe and Bill. The rest of us, when out of thanks, could ask Joe and Bill to give thanks for us. We would work less and create a new form of social interaction.

    1st person: Joe, I'm out of thanks, please thank Bill for me.
    2nd person: Bill, I'm out of thanks, please thank Joe for me.
    up to the 50th person.

    Third thought.. maybe just change the whole Thanks Thing to be under the control of Joe and Bill? The rest of us, thousands of people, would work less and...

    Fourth and final thought on the above. Don't change a thing please or Joe and Bill might kick my butt.

    Seriously, you both are okay in my book.

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      Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

      Fourth and final thought on the above. Don't change a thing please or Joe and Bill might kick my butt.
      I wouldn't; but others might. If there is one thing I learned that is true about my youth: I still don't understand how to effectively handle power when given to me. So let's shelve this one for a few more years .
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

        I wouldn't; but others might. If there is one thing I learned that is true about my youth: I still don't understand how to effectively handle power when given to me. So let's shelve this one for a few more years .
        Don't be surprised if you receive tons of marriage proposals from that statement Joe

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    Pizzaplicity is a T.V. commercial. Essentially, you get more value for your money. You can get two pizzas for the price of one delivery or for the price of one frozen pizza.

    Can't remember the brand of the pizza Joe?

    When I saw the commercial, last week, it made me think about the marketing. And the truth of it. I even asked my wife what was the cost of our frozen pizzas. After 21 years of marriage I should have known bettter!

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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

      Pizzaplicity is a T.V. commercial. Essentially, you get more value for your money. You can get two pizzas for the price of one delivery or for the price of one frozen pizza.

      Can't remember the brand of the pizza Joe?

      When I saw the commercial, last week, it made me think about the marketing. And the truth of it. I even asked my wife what was the cost of our frozen pizzas. After 21 years of marriage I should have known bettter!

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      Would it be this one?



      Personally, I think it's a stupid commercial.
      Was that supposed to be funny? It's not!
      Cute? It's not!

      It's not anything but stupid. :rolleyes:

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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Terra,
        Personally, I think it's a stupid commercial.
        Of course you do. You're not a guy.

        Have you ever noticed who the target market is for pizza commercials? Especially frozen pizzas? It sure ain't soccer moms, baking grannies, or Harriet Nelson types. It's guys, usually hanging out with other guys. And they almost all involve making fun of the guys in the commercials. Because that's funny to us.

        It's made even funnier by the uncomprehending looks on the faces of women in the same room when the commercials are on.


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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Terra,Of course you do. You're not a guy.

          Have you ever noticed who the target market is for pizza commercials? Especially frozen pizzas? It sure ain't soccer moms, baking grannies, or Harriet Nelson types. It's guys, usually hanging out with other guys. And they almost all involve making fun of the guys in the commercials. Because that's funny to us.

          It's made even funnier by the uncomprehending looks on the faces of women in the same room when the commercials are on.


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          Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

          It's kind of a guy thing as Paul said and no matter how old a guy is, there's always a child that needs to come out of him once in a while.

          We didn't ask to be born this way, it just is what it is.
          Oooooh!

          Kind of like how guys crack up at The Three Stooges and girls think they're stupid.

          Ha! I remember when I was a little girl and my dad always wanted me to come and watch The Three Stooges with him. I told him I didn't want to, and he asked me why not?

          I told him because they were stupid. He said, "Yeah, what do you think stooge means? Come on, watch it with me."

          I was like, huh? Stupid stooges doesn't make it less stupid!

          Like that comprehension made it not stupid...

          Yeah, definitely a guy thing.

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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

            NOOOOOOOOOO my thanks are gone too!
            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            Oooooh!

            Kind of like how guys crack up at The Three Stooges and girls think they're stupid.

            Ha! I remember when I was a little girl and my dad always wanted me to come and watch The Three Stooges with him. I told him I didn't want to, and he asked me why not?

            I told him because they were stupid. He said, "Yeah, what do you think stooge means? Come on, watch it with me."

            I was like, huh? Stupid stooges doesn't make it less stupid!

            Like that comprehension made it not stupid...

            Yeah, definitely a guy thing.

            Terra
            I'm with ya here. Don't like the pizza commercial and hated the Stooges.
            Funny though, convenience (as in frozen, ready-to-cook) pizza should be targeted to women at least as much as men. Most women in a household do the grocery shopping and many women are too busy or too tired to cook a big meal and opt for convenience foods.

            But I guess they're speaking to the single, scruffy looking, couch potato, male audience from that video ....
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            • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

              I'm with ya here. Don't like the pizza commercial and hated the Stooges.
              Funny though, convenience (as in frozen, ready-to-cook) pizza should be targeted to women at least as much as men. Most women in a household do the grocery shopping and many women are too busy or too tired to cook a big meal and opt for convenience foods.

              But I guess they're speaking to the single, scruffy looking, couch potato, male audience from that video ....
              Exactly Suzanne!

              I was thinking the same thing and also that kids love pizza too. They don't care where it comes from. Those frozen pizzas would be an easy thing for the babysitter to throw in the oven for the kids when Mom and Dad go out for dinner and a movie on a Friday night.

              Who's generally in charge of handling everything at home for the kids when they go out? Moms are!

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              Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

              Oh no you did it now, the stooges was an all time classic for me.



              Ha! Uh-uh... I'm not pushing that play button!

              My dad couldn't make me watch that crap and neither can you. :p

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                  Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

                  Ok then, I changed the video for you. Studies have been proven that this Three stooges short is an all time favorite of women.
                  Haha!

                  Thanks for thinking of me, but uh, I'll pass. The three Stooges don't interest me at all.

                  And nice try on getting me to push the play button. :p

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                  Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

                  Ok then, I changed the video for you. Studies have been proven that this Three stooges short is an all time favorite of women.
                  ha ha ha ... nice try buddy. Can't fool me
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                      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

                      Can I interest you women in the reincarnation of Janis Joplin.

                      Melony is a 44 year old contestant on the X factor and her voice is impeccably the voice of Janis Joplin.

                      44 Year Old Stay at Home Mom Blows Judges Away[]

                      Seriously ... that brought tears to my eyes. Awesome
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                      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

                      I guarantee that if you watch the video that Joseph Robinson posted of the guy telling the zebra joke, you'll then think that the stooges are hilarious.

                      Can I interest you women in the reincarnation of Janis Joplin.

                      Melony is a 44 year old contestant on the X factor and her voice is impeccably the voice of Janis Joplin.
                      Tear jerker! You win!

                      And here is my thank you song contribution.

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        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        Would it be this one?

        The Law of Pizzaplicity :30 TV - YouTube


        Personally, I think it's a stupid commercial.
        Was that supposed to be funny? It's not!
        Cute? It's not!

        It's not anything but stupid. :rolleyes:

        Terra

        Yes, thats the one. Thank you.

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    NOOOOOOOOOO my thanks are gone too!
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      Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

      NOOOOOOOOOO my thanks are gone too!
      LOL, thats funny

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      Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

      NOOOOOOOOOO my thanks are gone too!
      I still have some and I'm squandering them
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      • Profile picture of the author Cali16
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Jeffery,

        It's possible I'm confusing cashtree with someone else with a similar non-name, but the immediate association I made with that handle was, "Consistently negative."
        Nope, no confusion there, Paul.

        It's really quite sad when someone has nothing better to do than complain about how the "thanks" are doled out on this or any other forum... :rolleyes:

        I, like many others, thank people for all sorts of reasons. While I definitely appreciate informative or helpful posts (which, btw, don't have to be lengthy), a lot of my "thanks" are given for posts that simply made me laugh and brightened my day. After all, sitting at a computer for hours can get a little tedious, so a post that has me laughing out loud is greatly appreciated!
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          Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

          Not so sure. When I first read that I actually typed a reply, but decided to delete it because my own impression could be wrong. I was going to say it sounded like someone who felt like an outsider looking in. Not saying that is good or bad. Sometimes the people on the inside are desperately trying to get out.
          Not that it matters much, but then you obviously didn't read what I wrote here, in my first post of this thread:

          Originally Posted by The Real Deal View Post

          I'm serious. I have been part of some forums for more than a decade and with a few exceptions, most of the time I have been a lurker. WF is one of the few forums where I have felt that some of the stuff I have to say might actually be appreciated!
          Apart from Webmasterworld, (where I was one of the early members back in 2000), WF is the only place where I feel it's really worth posting, because people seem to appreciate when someone contributes valuable information.

          The only reason for me posting in this thread was to encourage members to make other new people on the forum feel the same way I do about WF.
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  • When people began to know you, then you will get more thanks! It's that simple! Keep putting out good post and you will see your thanks go up! Make sure it's useful! Just because you post something don't mean you have someone reading it!
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    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

    It
    It's made even funnier by the uncomprehending looks on the faces of women in the same room when the commercials are on.

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    Hence the look I received from my wife, LOL.

    Ironic in a way. Hour ago I treated her to the movie Snow White and myself to Pizza.

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    Well ladies, they advertises those Tostinos Pizza Rolls and Bagel Bites to you. All the commercials involve moms and kids, because they are quick to prepare. So don't feel left out .
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      Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

      Well ladies, they advertises those Tostinos Pizza Rolls and Bagel Bites to you. All the commercials involve moms and kids, because they are quick to prepare. So don't feel left out .
      Well, to steer the thread somewhat back on topic, I won't be hitting the "thanks" button to Tostinos for marketing crappy little pizza rolls and bagel bites to women and children. My family likes pizza. Real pizza.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark72
    It's just perceived credibility and social proof.

    People with a higher post count can come across as being more experienced and therefore offering more value (although it isn't necessarily always the case).
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    To bring it back off topic: Stop crying and have what I'm having. Time for some football!
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    I think the original poster works for a pizza franchise and this thread was just a brilliant marketing ploy, as I'm not even slightly convinced of it's original premise.
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      Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

      I think the original poster works for a pizza franchise and this thread was just a brilliant marketing ploy, as I'm not even slightly convinced of it's original premise.
      Still out of thanks for this.

      Anyways, we've been found out OP, back to marketing headquarters for a new plan! Really though, surprised this is still open.
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      Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

      I think the original poster works for a pizza franchise and this thread was just a brilliant marketing ploy, as I'm not even slightly convinced of it's original premise.
      It's original premise was to bash people who don't give out a lot of thanks to what he deems thank worthy posts, all the while being guilty of not giving out many thanks himself.

      I think the secret was for him to subconsciously confess to his thank you stinginess as to ease his guilty conscience. :p

      Terra
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    Hey, he wanted it shared, liked, subscribed, etc. It's not teasing :p.
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    Why is the 5 pages long????:confused:

    And why did I read the first 3...

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    All I can say is:
    Thank You (Faletinme Be Mice Elf Again)
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    • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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      This thread has run it's course.


      So, (cast in order of appearance) . . .


      Thanks cashtree
      Thanks Patrick Batty
      Thanks JakeAng
      Thanks mrhonored
      Thanks Joseph Robinson
      Thanks MissTerraK
      Thanks rpstaller
      Thanks zigizag
      Thanks JimDucharme
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      Thanks The Real Deal
      Thanks Bobby Asburn
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      Thanks Kurt
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      Thanks Rod Cortez
      Thanks nichescape
      Thanks Andyhenry
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      Thanks Sleika
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      Thanks Perrymma
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      Thanks IMSince2003
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      Thanks Cali16
      Thanks Mreece601@gmail.com
      Thanks Cee
      Thanks Karen Connell
      Thanks Topkat22
      Thanks Trivum
      Thanks Mark72
      Thanks Nio93
      Thanks GarrieWilson
      Thanks KimW


      In the words of Bob Hope . . .

      ps - I bet some of you vain bums are checking to see if you're on the list



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      • Profile picture of the author Cee
        Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post


        ps - I bet some of you vain bums are checking to see if you're on the list



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        I did :p And thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Wait...I'm not done! Now I know how Adele felt...

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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

        Did she just flip the audience the bird.
        She did, and it was awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts and 0 thanks given, yet when a member with a large post count posts even general, insignificant, or similar things people can't wait to thank them. :confused:
    Yes.

    I also noticed something else, that if you have an image of a cute girl or any combination of that i.e. bikini on a girl, girl on a motorbike, girl in a gstring etc. as your avatar you will get thanked more often.

    Heard someone saying once that if you email webmasters for link swaps that you should use a chicks name...

    Man, we really are desperate nerds arn't we...

    If you got it -work it!

    Nothing wrong with that.

    Sex change it is!
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      • Profile picture of the author goindeep
        Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

        You got a thanks from me so there is no need for a sex change, my decision was made based on I liked your comment so I thanked you, it had nothing to do with post count or sex appeal or any other nonsense.
        Don't think I'm sexy?

        Shame on you. To think I admired you're mustache.

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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Spencer
    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    I've seen some really great in depth posts by new members or members with low post counts and 0 thanks given, yet when a member with a large post count posts even general, insignificant, or similar things people can't wait to thank them. :confused:
    Cash,

    It is simply because the person with a larger post count is more affluent,
    therefore what he or she says will be taken more seriously because he/she
    is more respected.

    -Justin

    PS - Think: You receive "thanks" when you GIVE a lot of things out, - that deserve "thanking".
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Justin Spencer View Post

      PS - Think: You receive "thanks" when you GIVE a lot of things out, - that deserve "thanking".

      Nice advice, but since cashtree had only been thanked 102 times in the last 21 months, prior to posting this thread, I am afraid he won't understand -- from experience -- what you are talking about...

      :p
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