How many articles is enough?

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Hey there guys. Lets say my goal is to create a site that ranks#1 in google. If you had to estimate, how many quality articles should i expect to post on the sites in order to get a very high ranking?

(i know there are other things involved like link building, etc. but just in terms of number of articles)

a keyword with 50 searches per day
a keyword with 100 searches per day
a keyword with 150 searches per day
a keyword with 200 searches per day

how many quality articles would be "enough" to at least get a top 5 ranking?
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  • Profile picture of the author TMJonsson
    I would think it depends not only on searches per day, but also the quality of your competition.

    So it might not be possible to give a really definite answer.

    I may be mistaken though.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Tyler Jonsson View Post

      I would think it depends not only on searches per day, but also the quality of your competition.

      So it might not be possible to give a really definite answer.

      I may be mistaken though.

      You are not mistaken...

      It does depend on the quantity and quality of your competition, and how competitive they are in your niche...

      Sometimes you can get there with one article... Other times it may take dozens of articles...
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      • Profile picture of the author Beverley Watts
        Article marketing is a numbers game - the more articles you write and publish, the more traffic and links you will generate!
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  • Profile picture of the author jaggyjay
    I know of one person that has 60 quality articles written each month - and he's been doing this for several years now. He then distributes these articles among the top article directories. In addition, he employs "link getters" whose sole job is to find other sites to get quality links from.

    Needless to say, this person has top rankings in a very competive niche.

    Now here's the deal... the answer truly depends on the niche you're targeting and how much competition there is in that niche.

    All things being equal - and they're really not - you can work your way up in rankings with time and effort. The effort is the hard part: SEO, Articles, backlinks, Web 2.0, Blogs, etc.

    Being that you're only concerned with articles, I'll have to tell you that article marketing is only one part of the SEO equation. If your niche isn't that crowded, you might get top rankings in a short time with only a few articles. If it's competitive, it'll take more articles and more time. Thus, there's no definitve answer.

    Nonetheless, good luck!

    - Jay
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    • Profile picture of the author glenn0728
      thanks guys
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      • Profile picture of the author bombdiggity
        You should be updating your sites with fresh content at least once per day. Some people prefer to make an update twice, or even three times a day. A very wise marketer once told me that if you do nothing else, just write and submit one very informative article a day. You'll stay relevant in your niche and you'll always have a fountain of good content at your finger tips.
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  • Profile picture of the author mia7
    For every product you want to promote you should write 30 articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author Roy Carter
      Originally Posted by mia7 View Post

      For every product you want to promote you should write 30 articles.
      I know you are only trying to help here but really, this is not helpful. The OP needs to do correct keyword and competition research and first target keywords that give the best chance of ranking (lots of low traffic keywords can add up to a lot) and move on to then trying to rank for the more competitive keywords.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Roy Carter View Post

        The OP needs to do correct keyword and competition research and first target keywords that give the best chance of ranking (lots of low traffic keywords can add up to a lot) and move on to then trying to rank for the more competitive keywords.

        I am pleased to see that I am not the only one to advise targeting the easy keywords first, then working up to the more competitive keywords...
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    It's not the searches per day that you need to focus on but the competition of the other pages ranking for that keyword phrase.

    Check out the page currently ranking #1 - how many back links do they have and what type? Are they from authority sites? You'll need to get a similar amount and type of backlinks to take over that spot.

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    • Profile picture of the author Joel Chue
      Check your competition by running SEO Elite

      or a free Backlink checker at

      backlink checker - Google Search

      See how many backlinks your competitors have linking to their sites.

      Can you beat them?

      Yes. Start writing and submitting articles till you rank.

      Of course, like some Warriors mentioned, you can repost your article
      on your blog, use blog and ping, social bookmark it with a social poster
      tool to get the spiders coming to your site more often
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    I could be wrong on this (input appreciated) but I don't believe that submitting 50 articles to, say ezinearticles, will give your site any more link juice that just submitting one. I know the back links will show using various back link checker tools, but I'm pretty sure you won't get 50 times the juice from having 50 article submitted to the same article directory. Of course, you will get more traffic, but that is a different issue.

    Look at guys like Sean Mize or Lance Winslow. They have over 10,000 ezinearticles to their name (Sean uses Sean Mize and Sean R. Mize for his names). If they wanted, they could have a thousand articles each pointing to a an extremely competitive niche and totally dominate it. They could own all ten listings on the front page of Google for any keyword they choose.

    Google wants a quality experience for is searchers, that's why I believe my premise to be true. Agree? Disagree?
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    • Profile picture of the author TimG
      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      Look at guys like Sean Mize or Lance Winslow. They have over 10,000 ezinearticles to their name (Sean uses Sean Mize and Sean R. Mize for his names). If they wanted, they could have a thousand articles each pointing to a an extremely competitive niche and totally dominate it. They could own all ten listings on the front page of Google for any keyword they choose.

      Google wants a quality experience for is searchers, that's why I believe my premise to be true. Agree? Disagree?
      Mike,
      It has been my experience that no matter how many articles you have online and pointing back to your website Google will only show at max 2 pages in the top 10 from the same source. I could be wrong but again, this is only from my own testing.

      The key to take over the top 10 listings is to utilize a variety of sites for example: Ezinearticles.com, Squidoo, Yahoo Answers, other article directories, a Blogger blog, a Wordpress blog...etc

      Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author jayden.fellze
    As long as you have fresh ideas and content to share with. Even though you have lots of articles to be submitted, but the quality is poor, baclinks isn't good as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
    I think the point is whether your articles is interesting enough to lead the audience to your website. Just imagine if you have a clickthrough rate of 50% or more, and people love your articles and website, you will be "auto seo" by social bookmarking sites.

    And yes, this takes time and patience.

    should also try squidoo to link to your website.
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    • Profile picture of the author mizesean
      Mike,

      Thanks for the kudos...I was just chatting with a friend, showing him some things...saw this post..thanks!

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      • Profile picture of the author dafiz
        It also depends on how well your website is already ranking for the keywords you are trying to target.

        I recently submitted 20 spyntax articles to a blog network which is still drip feeding the unique spun versions of the articles, and this has pushed my website to rank #1 for that particular keyword, mind you I think I was in about rank #5 before hand for that keyword. But I have also seen a handful of other related keywords pull into rank #2 off the back of that same campaign.

        I believe given access to some big blog networks with good PR sites in it 20-30 articles would be enough to rank reasonably well for 2-3 keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author host4more
    Hard to say, it all depends on the quality of the articles but also on your competition. Do not forget that you are not the only one wanting to get the first position.
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  • Profile picture of the author BonganiS
    This will depend on the keywords you target since some are more competitive. Keep on posting those articles until you see the results you want. Submit the articles to article directories and bookmark them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
    My view would be similar to many expressed in here so far.

    Quite simply I pick my fights wisely ... if the strength of competition is overwhelming then I try and find an alternative phrase.

    If you are using articles to promote affiliate products, it may shock you to hear that I am over cautious and work on 1 sale per 1000 clicks until proven different.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author petevamp
    It really depends on the comptition. I have gotten to and holding a number 2 spot for my solar site from only publishing 10 articles to about 50 directories. However I had other means to building links as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vishal Mahadik
    My belief is Article Marketing is not at all a numbers game any more. I mean you can still write 100, 200, 300 or more articles a month and can hope for the best.

    But nowadays, the scenario has been completely changed. Now you need to focus on creating only quality content and getting highly relevant, authority backlinks to your article pages.

    That's it. You need only two things:

    1) Quality Content

    2) Relevant Authority Backlinks

    You also have to estimate your first page competition. Market Samurai is the best software to check this competition. You can use SEO for Firefox or Keyword Spy toolbar to find the first page competition.

    Check their quality of backlinks and then decide your backlinking strategy. I am sure if you keep doing this for few months then you are bound to get good long term results for your efforts.
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  • Profile picture of the author LangeTroels
    In my humble opinion, I think it would be more valuable to use a more broad approach to SEO, than just posting x number of articles..
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  • Profile picture of the author waken
    Originally Posted by glenn0728 View Post

    Hey there guys. Lets say my goal is to create a site that ranks#1 in google. If you had to estimate, how many quality articles should i expect to post on the sites in order to get a very high ranking?

    (i know there are other things involved like link building, etc. but just in terms of number of articles)

    a keyword with 50 searches per day
    a keyword with 100 searches per day
    a keyword with 150 searches per day
    a keyword with 200 searches per day

    how many quality articles would be "enough" to at least get a top 5 ranking?
    You need to provide the no. of competition as well in addition to the demand for a particular keyword to get a more accurate estimate. If the keyword you're targeting has zero optimized page in the title tag, one article is enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
    It is dependent on the competition. That is why analyzing the competition before pursuing a niche/keyword is pivotal.
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    • Profile picture of the author leclaims
      It really depends on the competition within the niche you are targeting. I've put up sites that have ranked in the top 10 almost immediately with only a few articles published simply because there wasn't much competition. I've also put up sites that have taken 30 to 40 articles to get to page 1.

      A few things I look for when determining how much it will take to get to page 1 are keyword difficulty, popularity of the current sites in the top positions (their backlinks), and the number of pages already indexed for the keyword phrase.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profolegy
    My guess is you write and post 1 a day or 1 every 3 days, and in each niche and the trick is you have to keep doing that for the lifetime of your blog or until you sell it.
    Your site needs constant food (content) to keep it alive.
    Good luck and happy writing............bruceS...........
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