Is it okay to make CRAPPY content if you make a million dollar?

YES

Caveat Emptor

This is what we want to talk about?

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It's never okay to offer crappy anything, nor to be dishonest or deceitful or in any other way untrue.

It's never okay, but people do it, and that will never change.

NO - It is never ok to lie, cheat, spam YouTube make crappy WSO's or whatever the case.

Now if you are making a WSO, and genuinely believe you have something to offer the market - that is fine.

But if you are intentionally spamming the market for a big payday, than you are wrong, and should be ordered to stop selling products online

Everything boils down to your moral values. Moral values are very subjective and relative. YES, i will create shitty websites or spam youtube or google if that would make me $100K in a month. Why should i care if it brings value to the net or not? The only thing i wouldn't do is hurt anyone physically, mentally or emotionally. This is the only reason why i would NOT create an ebook about making $1million in a year with no hard work cos it could damage another man's confidence or hurt another man's pocket. And that, my friends is the only thing i wouldn't do.

You are confused.

Crappy content never results in millions in profits...

But, if you have ever seen a Jim Carrey movie, then you know about a movie that deserved to lose millions of dollars...

I'm pretty sure you just described most Gurus. How do you think the most successful internet marketers are making their money? Do you really think it's buy doing the methods they sell you? XD

That may be true, but how many of those 7 figures did the creator of the crappy product have to give back in refunds? I've heard that even the big guru launches (who presumably are selling at least halfway decent products) can have a 70% return rate.

I don't think it's ethical to do that. I think the aim should be to add value to the net while making money. If that means I have to forego a 'million dollars' and instead opt for a modest income online then I will do that (not that I've figured out how to make a million!). I don't want to sell junk to people. I don't want to be affiliated with crap products that have a good 'sell' but offer no value to the end user. I don't think it's morally right to do that as you're basically taking money and time from innocent people that don't know any better. It's basically akin to theft.

Luckily most products have a money back guarantee. It's ridiculous how many WSOs are absolute rubbish. Some of them are very good though and definitely worth the money. I don't mind if the content is repetition of what has come before - it's mostly about how it organises and presents the information in a way that you can digest and take action. There's so much information out there that a decent WSO just summarising SEO methods that work, for instance, can be very useful (I've bought and reviewed a couple).

In the end, a good product will always make you more money than something that is awful assuming all else is equal (e.g. you can market both kind equally well). So it's always best to do that. Unfortunately I think that many people looking to make money online simply don't have the skills to make or find a good product to sell (and never will), don't care what they sell (ethical considerations), or sell something with good intentions but just don't have the experience to put a good product out there (start selling too soon). That's my current stance anyway, am just starting out...

There are so many self-proclaimed gurus out there who only make money by selling "how to make money" to people who want to make money online...I realize that was a bit long and redundant but it's absolutely true.

Yeah I agree with that. However, the 'make money online' niche is so HUGE that you can understand why someone who has found a way of making a decent income (say $2000 per month or less even) will be tempted to try and sell that method to others. If it works, then fine as everyone wins. Sometimes it's difficult to scale a project that makes that much and so it's easier to sell the method instead. What annoys me is when I see threads from newbies trying to get into the niche from the very start.

I think that "crappy" is subjective more or less.

You should never put out crappy content. Million dollars or not.

It's not okay to trick people into buying. Even if you make 1 million dollars overnight, all of the people you have tricked will never look back at your products again. It is better to provide something of value and people buy your products because they want to thank you. Sure, some people may get away with putting up crappy products. But it can only go so far. They may want to think twice if they want to really build a stable business online.

I'm not sure what people are getting so upset for.

I don't agree with doing this, but wasn't this the exact IM product launch model that everyone was huge on over the last 5 years? Cause that's exactly what it sounds like.

There's a reason the FTC has come crashing down on biz ops over the last 12 months.

Sure it's wrong to provide crappy content/information! You must over-delivery on what you've promised and you will make bigger profits in the long run, that's a golden rule of Internet Marketing.

No,It is not a good idea to give crappy content.
We should be honest towards our work

No. .......................

Wonder what their crappy product return rate was........

More than likely their idea was that they have a HUGE list, and if they make TONS of sales off of it, with a return rate of 50%, they still made TONS of money.

Basically they just turn it into a numbers game. If they are greedy, and don't really care, and know they can keep 50% of LOTS of sales, then it's a profitable business plan for them monitarily for a short while until their list just dies. And the rep gets burned. But in the online world, they just morph into the personage, that they probably have been developing as a back up plan.

Heck, they probably have several back up alias plans.

I would not doubt that what I have said goes on........

Of course I have no names, it's just a hypothetical, but one that would work, and probably is working and at work with someone right now...

Yeah ... some marketers lie.

Next question?

Are you going to make money or worry about what other people are doing?

If you think long term,you would never like to tarnish your reputation by creating crappy products.

In internet marketing,most of the money is made in backend promotions and follow ups and if your buyers don't trust you or aren't satisfied with your products,they'll never purchase through your recommendations.

No, it's definitely not OK!
The business is not a product! It's is providing value and helping others!
It's not a good karma (if you believe in it of course).

"You can get everything in life you want, if you will just help enough other people to get what they want." Zig Ziglar

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...and so is crap to an extent I guess?

Most of the WSO's I bought lately have actually met my expectations, not all were *stellar* but I think the "this stuff is just rehashed blah blah blah" is overdone.

Long live the good WSO's, hopefully the bad ones stay as a small overall portion of the pie.

Personally, I only sell and am associated with top quality content I'd be happy to sell to friends and family. Like Steven said, things catch up to you; good and bad -- and since my reputation is more important to me than anything, I refuse to be associated with bad product launches in my industry, even though I'm sure I lose out on short term revenue by declining to participate.

My long term business success and reputation over 10-20 years is more important to me than anything. So I only produce, and am associated with, best-in-class authentic resources that work well for my customers.

-k

What are you asking here Warrior?

It sounds like you are saying: "Is it OK to tell people you have made a million if you haven't, you are lying through your teeth, however you need them to believe you and buy your products"

I get it. I've been in this game for a long time, and there is a lot of people who do just this. There number one money making tactic is rehashing content and then making up a big long tale about it so that you buy it.

Is this OK? - No. It is unethical and makes you a dishonest so and so.

However, the greatest gift we have been given is freedom, and you are free to use yours however you want - but I promote that you be the change in the game, you be the person you want to see selling products: make yours honest, nicely presented, clearly explained - and you will excel.

Although all of these con artists are giving honest info warriors and bad name - so long as you focus your efforts on being the one who IS honest, you will succeed. Con artists soon get exposed for being con artists, they don't often gain repeat custom, not without changing their details all the time.

So my advice, my comments:

Do NOT copy what those other guys are doing just to earn a quick buck.

DO be the change you want to see in the game. Create great quality products, clean and simple, easy to read and understand within some beautiful presentation.

When you establish a reputation for delivering high quality products (which can only truly be achieved by making and selling high quality products), people will be more than willing to come to and listen to you over the next big chappy who appeared out of nowhere with claims of making somebody a millionaire overnight for a tenner.

Common sense is enough for most people to avoid getting ripped off by the scammers. Sometimes it takes being burnt once for people to learn not to touch the hot oven. But in the end, those scammers are just that: scammers! What's worst is they take advantage of peoples desperation.


As with the offline world: if you create a high quality, practical products which solves problems or makes life easier for people. A product which people need, where there is a demand for that particular product - you will make sales.

The main benefit of the online world is the product is information. But the same rules apply - remember you are dealing with real human beings.


Just my 2 cents, I hope my answer was helpful,

Peace,

Knowlij

Yes, it is wrong. Some of the previous posts say it is relative, but making untrue claims to sell a product is wrong. In fact, it is fraud. It's not just wrong, it's illegal.

If you say you made thousands of dollars using your "proven" system and you didn't, that is fraud, pure and simple.

If you exaggerate the potential with no facts to support it, that is fraud. A statement of fact that you simply make up is a LIE.

If a sales letter is good enough to get someone to click "BUY" and pay $100 for a crappy product, it is probably making some untrue claims.

That is wrong.

As far as I see it, what goes around comes around...

We can only be true to ourselves.

At the end of the day, you have to live with your own choices.

If people are buying, the product obviously filled a need.

If you did not get what you paid for, it is up to you to make a judgement to ask for a refund or not.

I think that people who produce and promote junk will in the end fail.

that's my take on this...

As Steven Wagenheim said: This is a great model for anyone selling products...

No, it's never OK to offer crappy content in exchange for someone else's hard earned money. If your product or service is not providing value to your customers, then you're not accomplishing anything.