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How much would you say this domain is worth? Honestly?

by Sonny Am
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Hi,

I have been doing some research on domains and buying domains.

I have come to realise that the most important things that make a domain saleable are

domain age,
domain tld (.com and .net better than .biz),
brand-ability and memorability of the domain,
length of the domain,
less hyphens and/or numbers,
backlinks to the domain/ page rank of the domain.

I do have a few domains in my portfolio that meet all the above, but I wanted to discuss a domain I recently purchased which was

determined.info


This is an experiment to test the idea of the importance of having a "dictionary domain" over a domain that is not one word but has a better tld and is older. One word dictionary domains are becoming rarer and rarer. Unless you want to go into the whole "ing" domains, which seem to carry a lot less value.


So from your experience or assumption, if I put this domain on auction say on flippa. How much do you think I would likely receive? I know all domain sale prices depend on which buyers are searching at that given time. But id just like some idea of an approximate value I could expect?


Looking forward to your replies.

Thank you in advance.


Sonny
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    It is worth what someone is willing to pay to get it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    It doesn't matter what an internet marketing forum thinks of the domain's worth. Unless we're going to buy it, because the only opinion that matters is the opinion of the person who the domain would matter to.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      I've sold 100 domains or so, over the last couple of years, but this isn't one I'd want to take on: I'm far from sure I'd be able to sell it for more than reg-fee. It's a one-word .info but it isn't even an adjective.

      I own several "dictionary-word" .info domains, some of which I'm intending to use, myself, later this year, as part of a new project. (I find them relatively easy to register, I must say).

      Domain-names in themselves don't have value beyond their reg-fees, Sonny: what makes them possibly valuable is simply the skills of the vendor at identifying and approaching potentially interested parties. It really is as simple as this. I'm not suggesting that all the factors you mention above are irrelevant: they're all things that can potentially increase the size of the market for a domain, and as the number of possibly interested parties increases, the probable sale price tends to do the same (just as it does at Sotheby's or Christie's, and for partly the same reasons, in microcosm). But what ultimately determines its value is still the vendor's skill-set.
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      • Profile picture of the author agmccall
        about 3% of what the .com is worth
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  • Profile picture of the author DotComBum
    To me it's worth at least $10, but only when someone is willing to pay for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
    I've been also in the domain/webiste flipping business since 2004 during early 2000 domain like this is salable.

    But right now you can not make much for that domain, unless there are company or brand that willing to buy this domain for their own brand. That is, if there is no way they can acquire the .com .net, or .org.

    For me I will not pay more than $50 for the domain...
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  • Profile picture of the author EnterpriseWebsites
    Like others have said before me it's only worth what someone will pay for it. Now that, that is out of the way have you thought about contacting the owners of determined.com/.net or .org to see if any of them would like to purchase it from you? You may have better luck that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    What Bill said.

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  • Profile picture of the author fenomeno
    Sorry, but I dont see value in it, maybe mid $xx. But you never know, maybe someone would want just this domain and would be ready to pay good.

    But in my opinion this domain has no big value, I would not register it, and would not buy. It is .info and that kills it in combination with this specific name. I sold many .infos for good maney, but they were oriented on product or services, not just random dictionary words.

    I saw where you regged it and when, and do know the price there so that is the good thing.

    This is just my opinion, you might sell it, but I think mid $xx would be max.
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  • Profile picture of the author MYDCOM
    dot com is king. Stay away from .info at all cost. There's a reason why many registrar price them at 99 cents.

    I would appraise determined.info at reg fee to a couple of dollars max.
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  • Profile picture of the author EnterpriseWebsites
    Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

    It's a one-word .info but it isn't even an adjective.
    Alexa did you say determined isn't an adjective?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by EnterpriseWebsites View Post

      Alexa did you say determined isn't an adjective?
      I did ... and it was a pretty silly thing to say, too! ...

      I was looking at it only in its past participle sense. It can, of course, be used adjectivally, but not easily - I think - to describe "info".

      I meant that it doesn't instinctively look to people like an "adjectival .info domain" of the type which comes across as "a type of information" - and can quite easily be sold.

      Such as, for example, "interesting.info", "unusual.info", even "gratuitous.info", and domains (of which I have several) which are relatively easy to sell, albeit not necessarily at huge prices, because they "describe a type of info". I suppose it could actually be argued that "determined.info" is like that, but it's a real stretch, isn't it?

      "Determined", used adjectivally, is an adjective which describes "people" rather than "information", I think? Information can't really be said to be "determined"? Well, not quite as readily or convincingly, anyway - though it could just about be argued that it describes information "that has been determined", or something? I wouldn't fancy trying to sell it, myself, anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
    As said before it's always worth what someone is willing to pay, no more and no less.

    I would be looking to find a business that has a company mission statement that fits the bill for this domain name. I actually think it's a pretty cool domain name but the .info will eliminate a lot of potential buyers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Jerrett
    It doesn't have much inherent "commercial intent" so I would not buy it. I'm not actually knocking .info domains like a lot of people do sometimes. Obviously, a dot com is better, and I'd rather have the dot org or the dot net, but if all that's is available is the dot info then I have been known to buy them, build a site on them and do fine with them. Sometimes even very well, especially with review sites.

    I'm sure that if you spend a couple of hours you could come up with quite a few similar domains to determined.info that are currently available to be registered.
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  • Profile picture of the author EnterpriseWebsites
    Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

    I did ... and it was a pretty silly thing to say, too! ...

    I was looking at it only in its past participle sense. It can, of course, be used adjectivally, but not easily - I think - to describe "info".

    I meant that it doesn't instinctively look to people like an "adjectival .info domain" of the type which comes across as "a type of information" - and can quite easily be sold.

    Such as, for example, "interesting.info", "unusual.info", even "gratuitous.info", and domains (of which I have several) which are relatively easy to sell, albeit not necessarily at huge prices, because they "describe a type of info". I suppose it could actually be argued that "determined.info" is like that, but it's a real stretch, isn't it?

    "Determined", used adjectivally, is an adjective which describes "people" rather than "information", I think? Information can't really be said to be "determined"? Well, not quite as readily or convincingly, anyway - though it could just about be argued that it describes information "that has been determined", or something? I wouldn't fancy trying to sell it, myself, anyway.
    Sorry I hope you don't think I was trying to call you out and no disrespect meant I just got a little lol out of it!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by EnterpriseWebsites View Post

      Sorry I hope you don't think I was trying to call you out and no disrespect meant I just got a little lol out of it!
      Nooooo, not at all. And you were quite right, after all.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Linerider View Post

        At what point did you think those posts were going to be helpful to the OP? :confused:
        I know you're not asking me, but I thought they were going to be helpful to the OP as soon as I saw them, when I read them again, and I still feel that, thinking about it afterwards, as well. And you've potentially helped him by drawing attention to them.

        This is the most helpful thing that can be said to people here who start off threads asking Warriors what they think a domain is "worth", because time and time again it's what they haven't quite realised: typically they think of the domain-name as having an objective value in and of itself. You (as shown by one of your later comments) and I know that this isn't so, of course, but believe it or not many people genuinely don't.

        Originally Posted by Linerider View Post

        I haven't traded in domain names for a while, so I'm a little rusty, but I'd estimate $1700.
        "Good luck with that". I sell domain-names regularly and wouldn't have paid reg-fee for this one. Maybe you're right, of course, but $1,700 would certainly be quite some achievement for a .info of this kind.

        Originally Posted by Linerider View Post

        Rather than just putting the name to auction, use Google to find companies who are called 'determined' or those that use it as a slogan or brand name for example. Once you have built that list, fire out some polite emails to them asking if they'd be interested in buying it.
        Good advice. As observed above, realising any added value rests almost entirely on the skill-set of the vendor at identifying and approaching potentially interested parties.
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  • Profile picture of the author ArcherWylde
    I'd say somewhere around $10 for the domain only. If there was a site there with traffic versus just a domain, that number could be significantly higher depending on how much the site is generating.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Sonny,

    "I have come to realise that the most important things that make a domain
    saleable are
    domain age,
    domain tld (.com and .net better than .biz),
    brand-ability and memorability of the domain,
    length of the domain,
    less hyphens and/or numbers,
    backlinks to the domain/ page rank of the domain."


    I don't agree at all. To me, the most important thing in selling a domain is locating an anxious and willing buyer at the price you want.

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