Am I the only one who thinks this is highly unethical?

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Here's an "offer" we got the other day via email. (changed the guys name)

I'm posting this for a reason.

Forget about the fact its a really poor "pitch" to someone he doesn't know, I want you to read the whole thing and focus on the list swapping part.

Its not big in my main niche yet, but i know for a fact its big in the IM niche.

If you're doing this stuff its not only *HIGHLY* UNETHICAL and lame as hell.... but you're exposing yourself to a potential NIGHTMARE of a lawsuit.

especially if your privacy policy and squeeze pages say "we will not rent, sell or trade your information" type stuff like 99% of marketers are using.

Plus you're guaranteed to piss off a LOT of people.

This type of stuff is all short term thinking. If you're looking to build a REAL business, stay away from gimmicks and tricks like this and focus on building a LONG TERM business that doesn't suffer from the "yo-yo" effect.

(you know where your income and stress levels are always going up.... and down... and up... and down)



> Hello,
>
> My name is BillyBob and I just came across
> your website xxxx xxxxx
>
> I wanted to begin by complimenting you on the
> design and marketing approach you've taken for
> your product, shits top notch!
>
> I've heard positive feedback on it, and that is
> the reason I'm contacting you now.
>
> I also market online in the consulting
> niche, and one of the challenges I find in our
> industry that there isn't enough of a network
> between all of us.
>
> A colleague of mine sells products online in the
> stock trading niche, and he showed me a method
> he's used get a TON of exposure and sales, and
> triple his customer base all in about 9 days.
>
> And, the best part is that it costs you nothing.
>
> All that's required is having a lead capture with a free product
> or service you can give away (a good ebook, or a
> free month membership etc...) and an email list
> to mail to.
>
> Here what you get by participating:
>
> 1) MASSIVE free exposure to our own product /
> website / business.
>
> Tens of thousands of visitors will hit the page
> in just a few days as everyone who is involved
> will mail to this page!
>
> 2) You'll get to sell the "Massive Package" and
> keep 60% every sale, so you'll actually make a
> ton of money while getting all of this exposure.
>
> 3) The buyers who take the package will be
> exposed to one of your products, and if they like
> it, they will want to buy others from you...
>
> (This is one of the greatest benefits, as my
> colleague who did this got hundreds of new
> customers once they got a taste of what he offers)
>
> 4) I will GIVE you the entire list of buyers,
> adding to your mailing list and customer base, so
> you will get a list of rabid hungry buyers to
> sell to!
>
> All you do is set up a new aweber page and send out 5 simple emails to your
> list which I provide to you...
>
> Thats it! this is no bulk mail bull shit! this is a real
> business venture
>
> If you think this sound cool, call me so I can articulate it more xxx-xxx-xxxx
> Best, BillyBob
>
> PS: It's important for you to know I'm keeping
> this very exclusive. I'm limiting it to the
> first 10 participants who reply with high quality
> products or services.
#highly #thinks #unethical
  • Profile picture of the author JustinBrooke
    LoL I'm pretty sure this is straight up illegal

    Money making tip #346: Don't give away your customer list o_0
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    What a load of ****.

    First. Aweber would never allow you to import that list.

    Second. I presume the sender has been barred from almost every email provider on the planet, otherwise why on earth would he send you those emails in the first place. If the product converts, he'd send the email himself and keep all the commissions.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    The other posts are right, and there are only THREE potential "secrets" here, and he gave away EVERY one! WHY should you do ANYTHING for him? The only thing you stand to get is potentially a near worthless "list". The only buyers with any real value will be the ones that thought your deal was interesting, and the hottest of those will buy your product. BTW I LOVE your Dalai Lama XIV quote. Too many forget that!

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Tell him to go back to selling his e-books on spam a zone, I mean amazon.

    Really, what can we say on this guy. There is probably a used car lot that can use his services.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    Yes. Stay away from black-hat/illegal stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    Looks very suspicious. Almost makes one think its a part of some federal entrapment operation. You never know who's on the other side.
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  • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
    Originally Posted by davemiz View Post

    Here's an "offer" we got the other day via email. (changed the guys name)

    I'm posting this for a reason.

    Forget about the fact its a really poor "pitch" to someone he doesn't know, I want you to read the whole thing and focus on the list swapping part.

    Its not big in my main niche yet, but i know for a fact its big in the IM niche.

    If you're doing this stuff its not only *HIGHLY* UNETHICAL and lame as hell.... but you're exposing yourself to a potential NIGHTMARE of a lawsuit.

    especially if your privacy policy and squeeze pages say "we will not rent, sell or trade your information" type stuff like 99% of marketers are using.

    Plus you're guaranteed to piss off a LOT of people.

    This type of stuff is all short term thinking. If you're looking to build a REAL business, stay away from gimmicks and tricks like this and focus on building a LONG TERM business that doesn't suffer from the "yo-yo" effect.

    (you know where your income and stress levels are always going up.... and down... and up... and down)



    > Hello,
    >
    > My name is BillyBob and I just came across
    > your website xxxx xxxxx
    >
    > I wanted to begin by complimenting you on the
    > design and marketing approach you've taken for
    > your product, shits top notch!
    >
    > I've heard positive feedback on it, and that is
    > the reason I'm contacting you now.
    >
    > I also market online in the consulting
    > niche, and one of the challenges I find in our
    > industry that there isn't enough of a network
    > between all of us.
    >
    > A colleague of mine sells products online in the
    > stock trading niche, and he showed me a method
    > he's used get a TON of exposure and sales, and
    > triple his customer base all in about 9 days.
    >
    > And, the best part is that it costs you nothing.
    >
    > All that's required is having a lead capture with a free product
    > or service you can give away (a good ebook, or a
    > free month membership etc...) and an email list
    > to mail to.
    >
    > Here what you get by participating:
    >
    > 1) MASSIVE free exposure to our own product /
    > website / business.
    >
    > Tens of thousands of visitors will hit the page
    > in just a few days as everyone who is involved
    > will mail to this page!
    >
    > 2) You'll get to sell the "Massive Package" and
    > keep 60% every sale, so you'll actually make a
    > ton of money while getting all of this exposure.
    >
    > 3) The buyers who take the package will be
    > exposed to one of your products, and if they like
    > it, they will want to buy others from you...
    >
    > (This is one of the greatest benefits, as my
    > colleague who did this got hundreds of new
    > customers once they got a taste of what he offers)
    >
    > 4) I will GIVE you the entire list of buyers,
    > adding to your mailing list and customer base, so
    > you will get a list of rabid hungry buyers to
    > sell to!
    >
    > All you do is set up a new aweber page and send out 5 simple emails to your
    > list which I provide to you...
    >
    > Thats it! this is no bulk mail bull shit! this is a real
    > business venture
    >
    > If you think this sound cool, call me so I can articulate it more xxx-xxx-xxxx
    > Best, BillyBob
    >
    > PS: It's important for you to know I'm keeping
    > this very exclusive. I'm limiting it to the
    > first 10 participants who reply with high quality
    > products or services.
    I don't know how old you are or your background.

    But I stopped when the writer used the word Sh*ts.

    Foul language is always a good indicator to me that the person is not making an effort to appeal to a wide audience, nor will they have one. lolol
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  • Profile picture of the author fitnesslover1
    haha seems a little suspicious
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  • Profile picture of the author nmb
    Very iffy indeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      I'm suprised you actually read it.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsced
    I don't see what the big deal is here. So, you got a spam message, ignore it and move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author EmmaA
    I"m with retsced. Did you know the sender? If not who cares... If so he's in the holding cell waiting to be booked so move away quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author davemiz
    its crazy. we obviously declined... but man... just the passing lists around thing... that to me, is highly unethical and super lame.

    people think so short term.
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