1st Page in Google in Less than 24 Hours

by Bev Clement 50 replies
This is easy to do and many people are achieving this day after day.

Sometimes it is because you have keywords that nobody or very few are looking for. Or you use keywords that doesn't have a lot of competition.

Then you are told to write articles for EZA, create a squidoo lens, get a blogger blog, create a word press blog (on their site and your own), use twitter; facebook; myspace and youtube, have a hub page and then you should dominate the 1st page of google.

These all take time to do and can be affective, but do they last? How long have you dominated the 1st page of google for a keyword?

I heard a video today which said you can do it and if you really want to do it quickly then have 1,000 squidoo lens. Are they serious, what is the point of that especially as they said google could blacklist and ban you.

What a waste of time and space.

But seriously how long have you remained in the 1st page of google using these sort of methods. I know that they work well for a new product launch, but what is 50 people are now trying to do the same thing for the same keywords, sorry there are only 10 slots on the 1st page, so someone will be disappointed.

As I say, getting indexed and on the first page is simple to do. But, have you learnt the secret of remaining there long term?
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Hi Bev,

    You're right - it is simple.

    The key to keeping it there is simple too - more content (or fresh content) and fresh links.

    People often seem to think you can blast your site to the top and then forget about it and expect it to stay.

    The reality is that it all has a time factor and keeping your results means doing more of the same thing that got it there.

    If you're using dodgy tactics, long term results might not fit with your model.

    Do it right and it's simple and just a matter of time.

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    • Profile picture of the author SunTzu82
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      Hi Bev,

      You're right - it is simple.

      The key to keeping it there is simple too - more content (or fresh content) and fresh links.

      People often seem to think you can blast your site to the top and then forget about it and expect it to stay.

      The reality is that it all has a time factor and keeping your results means doing more of the same thing that got it there.

      If you're using dodgy tactics, long term results might not fit with your model.

      Do it right and it's simple and just a matter of time.

      Andy
      I always find it helpful to submit my .index and a few other pages of my sites to directory listings such as DMOZ.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
        Hi Bev,

        I have an article that actually has climbed in the Google ranking and is now at #1 out of 3,830,000 competitors and the keyword phrase gets hundreds of searches per day. It was hanging around #3 and #5 for many months when first submitted. The article was originally submitted back in Feb. 2007. I did NOT build any back links to this particular article so I'm mystified why it's now in the #1 spot as of today?

        Cheers,
        Dean
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        • Profile picture of the author Steve Taylor
          Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

          Hi Bev,

          I have an article that actually has climbed in the Google ranking and is now at #1 out of 3,830,000 competitors and the keyword phrase gets hundreds of searches per day. It was hanging around #3 and #5 for many months when first submitted. The article was originally submitted back in Feb. 2007. I did NOT build any back links to this particular article so I'm mystified why it's now in the #1 spot as of today?

          Cheers,
          Dean
          My guess is if you haven't done any link building yourself, then others are bookmarking the article and the article is getting passed around and also bookmarked...me thinks

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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Taylor
    Hey Bev,I've been thinking of this exact question all day.

    It's finding the sticky sites that will keep you up there for awhile.
    Youtube for one.

    Other than that, all my sites eventually drop in ranking.
    I think going the authority route is the way to go...

    Or just keep working the niche with different keywords.

    So, how long do some of you stay up in the serps with social bookmarking and EZA, etc.?

    -Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
      Steve in answer to your question anything from 3 to 6 months using social sites.

      Andy that is true, but it is possible to remain on the 1st page long term using just social sites as well.

      It is even better is you use both options
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      • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
        One more thing,

        Bev, It's great to have you back.

        I see that you are now posting all the threads that you couldn't while you were gone.

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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

        Steve in answer to your question anything from 3 to 6 months using social sites.

        Andy that is true, but it is possible to remain on the 1st page long term using just social sites as well.

        It is even better is you use both options
        Right, but there's a difference between staying there using just seo tactics and staying there by effectively marketing your site - One will get you more visitors aswell as the serps results.

        SEM is not just about keeping google happy but about getting traffic, you can do both but you don't have to sacrifice traffic to just focus on links.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steve Taylor
          Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

          Right, but there's a difference between staying there using just seo tactics and staying there by effectively marketing your site - One will get you more visitors aswell as the serps results.

          SEM is not just about keeping google happy but about getting traffic, you can do both but you don't have to sacrifice traffic to just focus on links.
          "By effectively marketing your site".

          Can you throw us a bone Andy? (with a tiny bit of meat on it)
          Are you referring to advertising?

          -Steve
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnATX
            In my particular niche, I have dominated the first position and the first page (actually beat about.com!) for many months now with my wordpress blog. It made a huge difference in traffic as you can imagine. I know what to do again but not exactly what caused me to get so lucky, especially after it originally was blacklisted by google.

            I started doing SEO for my keyword and ended up with really good ranking and it's stayed like that so I wouldn't worry about how fast...just do it right and you'll see better results later on.
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            • Profile picture of the author h1dayah
              Originally Posted by JohnATX View Post

              In my particular niche, I have dominated the first position and the first page (actually beat about.com!) for many months now with my wordpress blog. It made a huge difference in traffic as you can imagine. I know what to do again but not exactly what caused me to get so lucky, especially after it originally was blacklisted by google.

              I started doing SEO for my keyword and ended up with really good ranking and it's stayed like that so I wouldn't worry about how fast...just do it right and you'll see better results later on.
              Thank you for the idea..
              i've been doing social bookmarking .and it is really have good power to reach your page on google position.I just courious for one thing.
              Do blogging or or squidoo lens really help to gain traffic.
              Thanks for the info.
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              • Profile picture of the author KristenArnold
                Using Social Networking Sites and RSS/Blog Postings I can consistently rank 9 out of the top 10 spots on Google for my keywords but the key is to have new content. If I rank 9 out of 10 spots and leave it I'll get bumped after 2-4 days depending on the traffic/keyword. But if I keep a good piece of content posting every 2-3 days I can maintain the rankings - again, keyword competition makes a difference and not all high competition words will rank as well as 9 out 10 but even 3 or 4 out of 10 is okay by me.
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                • Profile picture of the author Chris Dolan
                  I am curious with the social bookmarking, because this relates to which tags? correct? I mean if your keyword is not tagged then being bookmarked is just another link to the domain name?
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                  • Profile picture of the author zuberr
                    My logic behind this is that an abandoned page
                    is not going to be on page 1 for long. The page
                    need to have some constant "buzz".

                    By "buzz", I mean Google should discover new
                    links and social bookmarks pointing to the page
                    constantly.

                    If the site is number 1 and has 1000 links but it
                    doesn't receive new links pointing to it anymore,
                    it wont stay number 1 for long.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
                      Video gets me there in well under 24 hours. In fact, I've had a video show up on page 1 after it had been uploaded for about 20 minutes.

                      Do they last?

                      I uploaded a tattoo video for my Recipe in January, and it still holds 3 positions on page 1 for "lower back tattoo designs for women" (without "") and 1 on page 1 for ""lower back tattoo designs" which brings it nice steady traffic.

                      I've found that videos get quick indexing and have long staying power.
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              • Profile picture of the author JohnATX
                Originally Posted by h1dayah View Post

                Thank you for the idea..
                i've been doing social bookmarking .and it is really have good power to reach your page on google position.I just courious for one thing.
                Do blogging or or squidoo lens really help to gain traffic.
                Thanks for the info.
                Blogs with your own keyword domain name is a big part of gaining good rank. Then you should make relevant blog posts. Eventually, you'll have good content on a good domain name and you'll see yourself ranking up for your niche keyword.
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                • Profile picture of the author Bob Monie
                  Originally Posted by JohnATX View Post

                  Blogs with your own keyword domain name is a big part of gaining good rank. Then you should make relevant blog posts. Eventually, you'll have good content on a good domain name and you'll see yourself ranking up for your niche keyword.
                  I personally think domain names dont carry much weight at all in google. Carry alot more weight in MSN and Yahoo but not Google.
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                  • Profile picture of the author mrjonman
                    Hi Bev,

                    You've certainly started a very interesting thread here.

                    I've been active lately building some mini-sites using Wordpress and have had mixed results getting first page rankings on google. Since my sites are new, it'll take awhile for the dust to settle, of course.

                    But I was wondering if anyone can recommend a nice social bookmarking software to use. Sorry if I missed one in the thread but I'm really interested in finding an inexpensive tool that does a good job.

                    Thanks

                    John
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                    • Constant work is required to stay on top with Google, unless the niche is dead. Generally, blogging comes to my mind as a very easy way to keep a position once you have taken it.
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                      • Profile picture of the author martinp
                        Google is a funny thing and as much as I've tried to work it out it's impossible.

                        Take this for an example:
                        I have a few wordpress blogs that have been ranked on page 1 of Google for their main keyword for over a year. These are crappy blogs with nothing but about 5 posts and less than 10 backlinks (1-2 articles in Ezinearticles and socialbookmarked - nothing more). I haven't touched them since the day I built them and they continue to bring me sales.

                        Then on the other side of the coin I have a few authority sites with tons of backlinks, lots of unique quality content, as white hat and perfectly SEOd as you can get, and I'm lucky to get them in the first 5 pages of Google.

                        I've also had articles on Ezinearticles and Squidoo lenses rank 1-5 on Google for over a year, with similar ones not ranking at all.

                        I guess generally it does come down to consistent work - but I definitely have a few I got lucky with.
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                        • Profile picture of the author NickMarks
                          It is easy to get to the top of google. To stay on top, you do need to keep updating your website with content, writing articles to get more back-links and so on.

                          That is for keywords that have high comp...

                          I own many sites with low google comp (about 700,000 comp) and I'm #1 without doing ANYTHING to the sites in the past 2 years. But this is a niche that is not really into "IM".

                          So, you can get to the top and stay there. How difficult it is to stay there, depends on how IM savvy your niche is.
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                          • Profile picture of the author macchiavelli
                            Staying on the first page is the least of my concerns, getting traffic is.
                            It wont mean jack to me if im on the first page but I get 20 visitors a day from it

                            I usually go for methods that bring me quality targetted traffic on a daily/long term basis.
                            SE's got too much power over websites.
                            They can drop you anytime they like, so thats why I dont depend on them solely for my traffic.
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          • Profile picture of the author greff
            Getting high positioning is an interesting game. I own a website that was in the top 10 for a competitive keyword for a couple of years. Then in a shakeout it went to the bottom of page 2. I will say without any qualifications, that if you are on page 2 the amount of traffic you get from the search engine will be low at best.

            Not only that, but the number of visitors you get even on the first page is not always exciting either. For instance, the site I mentioned for "wahm" was getting 80-100 visits a day from the search engine from the 5th position on page 1. That's better than nothing, but not great either.

            I was surprised to find that the site I referred to above is now back on page 1 and I've not done any linking for almost two years. It makes me wonder if linking is dying or already dead. I've heard rumors to that effect. It's all a matter of studied opinion because Google will not divulge any info in that regard.

            I still think that the age of your site is highly regarded by Google.

            Else, just make a good site with lots of strong content. That will serve you well in the long run. Short run tactics usually get buried as mentioned above. However, I do get a decent amount of traffic from Yahoo Answers even though I've not posted there in a few months.
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          • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
            Originally Posted by Steve Taylor View Post

            "By effectively marketing your site".

            Can you throw us a bone Andy? (with a tiny bit of meat on it)
            Are you referring to advertising?

            -Steve
            Hehe - sorry Steve,

            I didn't want to detract from Bevs discussion so I just posted the general concept.

            I think I made the assumption that you'd know what I meant.

            I'm talking about offline marketing, word of mouth marketing, link building, social marketing, joint ventures, viral marketing etc...... You know - the mix of things available to spread the word about your business that also have intrinsic seo end results (people commenting about you and your site on blogs, social groups, ezines etc. and press releases which get your phone ringing and websites visited.

            Most niches have the opportunity to use a wide mix of marketing elements to support and promote them, but often when people think SERPS they think links via directories and articles and then run out of ideas.

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    • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
      i got on first page with a digg bookmar in less than 24 hrs...i have exactly the last spot on the first page for my keyword...but ive got some articles comming (waiting for accept from ezine) and then i hope ill take up more.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Francis
        I have use social bookmarks, classifeds, or video sites to obtain first page ranking many of times. If you are talking about a keyword like florida mortgage it takes more juice. But for long tail keywords or geo keywords i do it really quick if its not super competitive. I can do this with just like you said a social site or a video site. You are right i bounce and around 3-6 months is about average as there is no exacts. Of course i have never tried buildling links without a little neglection so someone else would have to time/work test this. But you can also build links to your video, social bookmark, or video to get that to the top of the search engines faster. As social sites, video, classifed sites are authority sites is eaiser to get high rankings then with a new site. I call this piggy backing traffic unitl you build your own authority. Im interested to find out others longevity with these methods also.

        I always use this in the begining to get traffic by piggybacking other authority sites traffic and authority, but realy quick i work on building my asset my site then buildling somone elses so this is just a quick traffic boost in the begining. Usally if i build content on another site is is for a traffic benefit, link benefit for seo, or longterm IM branding plan.
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    • Profile picture of the author Barry Plaskow
      The way to stay there is to continue to supply top contenton a regular basis.

      If you have a blog, there is great software that can help you on your way and save you lots of time and effort.

      Best of luck!

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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        A steady increase of highly relevant inbound links I find does the trick...

        I spend an hour a day building links to various properties and I find I can maintain position's like this...

        It's relaxed enough to look natural, and I try to hook them up with relevant sites to link from for LSI purposes etc..

        Jay

        p.s. And of course fresh, hot content of your own works splendid , if you have sites that are considered authority, then you can work with it.
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        • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
          Search for "prevent bird flu" or "how to prevent bird flu" on Google and see who comes up first.

          This site went to number 2 on Google within 24 hours of putting it up and number 1 inside 48 hours.

          It made number 1 in late 2005 and has been number one ever since for several search terms (including being number 1 through the whole bird flu scare when it was getting several hundred highly targeted hits a day).

          So that's close to 3 years now and I made no SEO efforts AT ALL after the first 2 months.

          There are ways of getting to number one on google for real search terms that have real competition (1,200,000 competing sites for prevent bird flu for example, 34,000 for the exact search term "prevent bird flu").

          Being in the first 3 searches on Google for a keyword phrase is one key I would suggest unless the phrase has a MASSIVE volume of traffic.

          Otherwise you'll get pathetic tiny trickles of traffic (although they will be free and if you're outsourcing the process that could still be worthwhile.)

          Kindest regards,
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          • Profile picture of the author Glenn Newsome
            Bev,
            Another example is a search for "Paid article Marketing" which I did about a year ago. It regularly holds about 3 to 5 positions on the 1st page. Right now it is number 1,2,and 7.
            Results 1 - 10 of about 1,210,000 for paid article marketing. (0.24 seconds)

            Nothing has been done since to keep em there. It first showed up in less than 24 hours.
            For a while I held 6 to 7 spots regular.
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            • Profile picture of the author peteinoz
              Hey Bev,

              your missing some important ingredients to your strategy.

              In the lead up to my Brute Force SEO Launch, I'll be releasing informational videos (free), and I will be addressing the Stickiness issue you've raised in your post. People are going to just love this information.

              The link is in my sig, if you want to get on the list so your updated about this information..

              Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
    Yeah it is definitely easy.

    I had a site on the first page of almost half a million other pages...

    a week later...

    no where to be found. (i think)

    at least not on the first page anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author pojax
    not as easy for me. For some reason I have troubles getting on google for a not that common set of keywords. Please see my thread at and reply. My affilaites are coming up on google but I am not? I am all over forums, video sites, social networking sites etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas
    Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

    But, have you learnt the secret of remaining there long term?
    Offer up your first-born to the Google God.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris W. Sutton
    I taught Bev everything she knows! I'm so proud of Bev that I could just bust my buttons!

    Now, Bev, where is the secret?
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  • Profile picture of the author imb
    I used to work for an internet company, we remained in the first page (mostly #1) on highly competitive keywords by doing non-stop article writing and link building. We have around 50+ staff dedicated in doing this everyday.
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    • Profile picture of the author John F.
      I think video marketing with you tube helps get you to the top of google pretty quickly but for how long im not sure.
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      • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
        What many people don't understand is that social networking sites like Squidoo and article sites like ezinearticles give you fantastic links to your new posts or articles (because new stuff is listed on a high Google Page Rank page).

        But as you slip off that list the quality of the links to your page go down and your rankings in the search engines can go down too.

        The secret is to target multiple long tail key word phrases with your own websites and use these other sites to get yourself backlinks to those websites.

        That way you're set up for long term high search engine rankings.

        Also Google loves domains that exactly match keyword phrases.

        Kindest regards,
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        • Profile picture of the author Amy Bass
          I think people get into the habit of thinking too much outside of their site than on it. I have fallen victim myself to this in the past. Posting more articles to the directories than you have on your own site. Why have more content off your site than on it? Content is king. Plus, the more articles you have the more chances for a top 10 ranking.
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          • Profile picture of the author petereff
            Originally Posted by Amy Bass View Post

            I think people get into the habit of thinking too much outside of their site than on it. I have fallen victim myself to this in the past. Posting more articles to the directories than you have on your own site. Why have more content off your site than on it? Content is king. Plus, the more articles you have the more chances for a top 10 ranking.
            You are absolutely right - Content Is King! I have around 170 articles published with EzineArticles and about 80% of those are on my site. I also add fresh or updated content every day to keep the spiders coming back.

            Right now ( I just checked) I have 27 keywords on Page 1 of Google and 15 of those are at #1 which is where I aim to keep them.
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            • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
              I think it's also vital to understand the importance of traffic QUALITY.

              Being number 1 on Google doesn't mean anything if the visitors you get for a search term will never buy anything.

              On the other hand some visitors are SO valuable that getting 1 a week or even one a month might be more than enough to make a substantial income (house buyers, people looking for high paid multi-thousand dollar services etc etc.)

              You really need to focus on getting lucrative traffic from long tail keyword phrases which suggest people are looking to buy something valuable that you have to sell or that you can take a commission on.

              Again I think I should repeat my opinion that you use social networking sites to get you back links to your own website.

              When you have your own website ranking at the top of Google you can convert that traffic with sales letters, selling audio and video and any number of other selling methods.

              That's a whole lot harder to do on lenses and sites you don't own.

              The good news is if you do this right you might have the number one position on Google and Yahoo for your own site and dominate the first page or two of listings with other sites where you've submitted similar content.

              At times when I've been serious about SEO for a search term I've had all but 2 or 3 of the listings on the first 2 pages on Google and Yahoo.

              You can do that with a combination of forums, blogs, lenses, article sites, online press releases but most important of all...your own web site.

              Kindest regards,
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        • Profile picture of the author websitebroker
          if website owners focus on relevant unique content and do proper on page optimizing along with getting good relevant back links with anchor text they will eventually win the race and have longevity - slow and steady wins the race....
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  • Profile picture of the author hommi_16
    For the experienced people out here,

    I have a website that is competing with 20,000 search results. The number one result is a squidoo lens and no major authority sites on the first page. What would you guys recommend in terms if increasing SERPS. Currently, I'm on page 5 and I've been doing ezine articles and forum posting in the related nche?
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  • Profile picture of the author John Piteo
    I've had several articles, based on long tail keywords, on the first page of Google since 2005. This, of course, was before I did any of the Web 2.0 stuff. One of the things that has worked well for me was writing high quality articles that people really want to read. As you know, quality can be picked up and published on other peoples sites (some with high PR). This is what I strive for. It can keep your articles at the top of the search engines for years. Of course, back links pointing to my articles in the directories also helps.

    These days I use all the Web 2.0 stuff, not so much for how long my articles will last at the top of the search results, but so they can be seen by potential publishers while they are there. I get quick maximum exposure. Most of the Web 2.0 stuff drops off after a few weeks to a few months, but if some of the articles get published then it's worth my time.

    Another benefit of writing high quality articles is that they get socially bookmarked by others which also helps you stay on the first page longer.

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    • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
      I've held 1-3 spots for a couple years with my oldest site, for a variety of search terms in the jazz music niche. For me it always comes back to, links with anchor text for keyword, good and frequent content added. age of the site will help as well.

      video is a good one too. you can dominate a long tail keyword by just making a video on an article, then submitting to the major video sites, the top 5. then submit the article the video is based on to eza and goarticles.

      this is "through the backdoor" seo because the actually video (youtube, revver, etc.) will rank high, then be sure that you annotate the video with a site name and have the link in the description at the top so people can click through to the main site.
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  • Profile picture of the author reclusivecopy
    Can't say enough about fresh content. Constant updates and new material are the key to staying on top.
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    • Profile picture of the author francophile
      Google says....

      Want links? Google says be interesting

      Google's Maile Ohye concluded Link Week with a tutorial on
      inbound links. It says basically what SEO experts have been saying
      for years: content and inbound links are most important, and in
      that order.

      Google sent a pretty loud signal this time last year by
      hitting the PageRanks of paid directories, a move seeming to
      confirm basic white-hat SEO tactics.

      In her post, Ohye extols the virtues of naturally gained, editorial
      inbound links and directly denounces links appear "spammy," or not
      "merit-based."
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    Google doesn't care about fresh content but your users do. Google just wants you to have the links (i've done multiple test to back this up). But content helps you get links so it's a double edged sword. In short just make good, cool content that people want to link to. Done.
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