Why You'll Always Be A Newbie....

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yo warriors,

I don't write up a thread too often... but this was just something I had to throw down, after reading some of the posts today on the forum. Some posts that honestly put a little shock and awe into me, at some of the recommendations of people...

I want to tell you a story.... It begins where I started online, with my own "toy" websites when I was just a young guy... I was playing around... just toying around online, when I discovered "online advertising" and started deploying it on my site... (Note: This was just a play site.. by no means was it my business site)

and I'll be honest with you... never made a single dime with it then... But, it's what attached me to online communities, blogs, and more about this industry.

Unlike most "new marketers", I somehow (pure luck) missed seeing all of the hypey sales pages... crazy offers and more... (Perhaps because I had always thought those were plain scams -- of course, I know now many are "true" to a point)...

As I began to be apart of these communities... I noticed there were a lot of things that internet marketers wanted and needed.... And I decided that I could write a couple of articles and earn a couple bucks...

I did this without spending a dime on advertising...

And it built up from there... Eventually I had hundreds of dollars saved up...

And with that money I ended up investing in new projects, hosting companies, flipping sites, etc...

So what is the point I'm trying to drive down here?

Before you start dropping all of the cash that you have sitting in the bank upon some internet marketing training... something thats gonna make you a bazillionaire by 3am tonight... consider starting from the bottom, consider starting small... consider aiming for your first $1, instead of your first $10k day (Yeah, I know many people like this)...

And when you've earned that first dollar... First $20.... re-invest it, whether it be buying domains, or even a training course that you think we'll help your business...

If you start working your ass off for $1 a day... you'll be 1000000000x more grateful for the huge successes your business will eventually bring you.

If this post will at least inspire one person, I'd truly be happy...

To Your Success,

Caleb

p.s. hope to see you all at the WF event, let's rock it ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Gotta start from somewhere. Not at $1 tho... maybe $7.
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    • Profile picture of the author MilkerFocus
      Thanks for sharing. totally agree. Don't think too big when you are just a newbie.
      Once you get better, you should start thinking bigger.

      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Gotta start from somewhere. Not at $1 tho... maybe $7.
      Don't need to care the number. It is just a concept.

      Marcus
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    • Profile picture of the author ckbank
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Gotta start from somewhere. Not at $1 tho... maybe $7.
      LMAO, great post.
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    • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Gotta start from somewhere. Not at $1 tho... maybe $7.
      I was sure I Read in your signature that you offered coaching & consulting. You should then realize, I use the $1 number out of sheer example, it has nothing to do with it being $1, $7, or $5...

      I don't know what's up with the $7 mentality. who pays $7 for something? The only thing that truly sells for $7 is a product...

      I guess you've deemed its product creation thats the only way to make money.

      Cool!

      Caleb
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    • Profile picture of the author jideofor
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Gotta start from somewhere. Not at $1 tho... maybe $7.
      Sorry to say this but why are all your comments to every post SO brief? Is to advertise your signature or what? Gosh!

      I would hardly find where you have ever made any indept and detailed contribution to any thread and, you will always comment.
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      • Profile picture of the author IMHypeless
        Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

        Gotta start from somewhere. Not at $1 tho... maybe $7.
        Nice one sir


        But I do agree with Caleb. I personally like to get my hands dirty and at least learn the basics. Even though I had a very nice budget when I started with IM, I felt the right way to do it is by taking it slow and do all the basics, crucial stuff by myself. In the long run, that experience proved to be invaluable when I began to outsource more and more.


        For example, I wrote all the articles by myself in the first year of business. Sure it was hard and tedious at first, but with time I got pretty decent at it. I learned how to structure articles, skim through the source text and use the key points in my own content, come up with intriguing titles and so on. I got to the point where I could write a 500 word article in under 10 minutes. When I felt it was not efficient to write all the content by myself and it was time to outsource content creation, that experience helped me a lot. I could easily filter out bad writers, give helpful guidelines to my team of writers and specify exactly what I want. Ultimately it saved a lot of my time and made them more efficient.



        It’s always nice to have a good budget, but it means nothing if you don’t know how your business works.
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanH
    IMO, the vast majority of training programs are extraordinarily overpriced and have content that you can find anywhere else for free. I'd invest those first few dollars into buying a domain name for another project.
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  • Profile picture of the author wave carl
    that's very true. big things all starts with a single steps
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    Lots of people suffer from BSO syndrome.

    Next time you buy a product, ask yourself, "what have I done with the last 10 products? Did I put them to practical use?"
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  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
    Spot on! I went down the BIG idea road for years. It took me seven friggin years to realize that I need to crawl before I can walk!

    This is real advice right here folks!
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      I'd say it's the opposite.

      Most people chase quick dollars and that's the $1 mentality.

      The way you lay the foundation of your business is a lot different if you're going for something more. It might take longer to get there, but it's better than chasing $1.

      It's like going after a low hanging keyword. Sure, you might get there in a few months, but then someone could come along and steal it from you.

      Go after the monster and it might take you a few years to get there, but most people won't even go for it so when you have it, it's yours.

      I'm not telling people to go for hard keywords. Just an example .
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      • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        I'd say it's the opposite.

        Most people chase quick dollars and that's the $1 mentality.

        The way you lay the foundation of your business is a lot different if you're going for something more. It might take longer to get there, but it's better than chasing $1.

        It's like going after a low hanging keyword. Sure, you might get there in a few months, but then someone could come along and steal it from you.

        Go after the monster and it might take you a few years to get there, but most people won't even go for it so when you have it, it's yours.

        I'm not telling people to go for hard keywords. Just an example .

        When did I say chase $1?

        I said chase the BUILDING BLOCKS... of your first $1k day.

        Start on your own dime.. I guarantee you'll make less instead of starting everything based upon hard work.

        But hey, I've been there..
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        • Profile picture of the author fin
          Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

          When did I say chase $1?

          I said chase the BUILDING BLOCKS... of your first $1k day.

          Start on your own dime.. I guarantee you'll make less instead of starting everything based upon hard work.

          But hey, I've been there..
          So you're saying become a freelancer?

          OK, I can agree with that.
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    Good post Caleb and I agree. You should invest at least 25% of whatever you make back into your business.

    Sometimes you have to spend money to make money.

    I guess you have to ask yourself are you doing this for a hobby? Or are you trying to build a real long term viable business?

    If your trying to build a real business reinvest money back into your online real estate, and hopefully with hard work, and motivation you can turn your real estate into Boardwalk
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  • Profile picture of the author ujubo
    I have yet to reach my first $100 on Clickbank (so they can send me the first check )
    However, this means looking at a more basic level, ie: getting traffic and have a converting landing page when it gets there.

    The whole goal setting in terms of money is good for motivation and long term, but it is definitely necessary to focus more on the steps required to get there than just daydreaming about the end result. I just think that this way you actualy take action while the promise of the end result just keeps you motivated to take each step.

    ...or maybe that perspective is what has stopped me from earning any money yet
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  • Profile picture of the author JabMonkey
    Yeah, I agree with that. I started just selling some old computer parts on Ebay, then did some writing services and promo services for a few people....took off from there and I did a lot of different things through the years until I was proficient enough to make a full income online. Wasn't an easy road, but I'm glad I stepped out onto it and kept moving....
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  • Profile picture of the author zicer
    Good and honest story. True. I also think that too many beginners lately aim too high, most of them want to be on top a.s.a.p. So it just make them disappointed sooner then latter. So many guys trying black hat techniques, etc etc etc... Maybe one or few of them were lucky to succeed fast, but when you going step by step, honestly it's much longer lasting success.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    BRAVO Caleb BRAVO!!!

    Since I have ever been taking action, things have started to happen for me! THAT'S IT!!!

    You can have all the training in the world but if you don't do anything; you get NOTHING!

    I know it sounds simple but life can be as easy or as hard as we all want it to be.

    It isn't about the economy, it isn't about the government, it's how hard the individual is willing to work until that dream becomes a reality!

    Thank you for sharing this Caleb and I too hope it inspires someone to take action TODAY!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kreator517
    Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

    And when you've earned that first dollar... First $20.... re-invest it, whether it be buying domains, or even a training course that you think we'll help your business...

    If you start working your ass off for $1 a day... you'll be 1000000000x more grateful for the huge successes your business will eventually bring you.
    True, very true. Rome wasn't built in a day.
    All too often newbies think the because IM is relatively new success can come at the speed of light.
    But no training package or "system" or "guru" can ever substitute for practical, steady, and realistic scaling.

    And that goes 4 any venture m8s, online or off.
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    • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
      Originally Posted by Kreator517 View Post

      True, very true. Rome wasn't built in a day.
      All too often newbies think the because IM is relatively new success can come at the speed of light.
      But no training package or "system" or "guru" can ever substitute for practical, steady, and realistic scaling.

      And that goes 4 any venture m8s, online or off.
      Correct,

      If you're starting a restaurant... sure you want that booming first day of business, (and it could happen for you), but when your starting a small local business... chances are you'll have more downs, then you will ups... as you're getting started.

      I was talking to a guy who manages the local Fresh Healthy Cafe. FHC is a franchised company that operates world wide selling "ethical" food, and health stuff... basically you got straws made out of corn, and healthy smoothies - One of the things that he mentioned to me, was that he got into the business free, by working with a Franchiser (it's $300k to open a franchise approx).

      I was asking him about margins on his smoothies... And I was VERY surprised by his answer (and you will be too). He told me that for each and every smoothie someone buys (We're talking about $4-6 smoothies, not some cheap option either) they don't make a cent... I asked him how that could be, and he simply explained that the company as a whole, takes their 40 cent or whatever margin off, for the first few months of opening. They sell the most expensive sandwich/drink combo for my lunch, but make the smallest margins, because there just getting started.

      Just food for thought (not intentional there )..

      Caleb
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  • Profile picture of the author Willie Crawford
    Good advice. Focus on earning that first dollar or two and then
    leverage that. Keep doing what proves to work (for you) and
    stop doing the things that don't.

    See you in Orlando

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    • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
      Originally Posted by Willie Crawford View Post

      Good advice. Focus on earning that first dollar or two and then
      leverage that. Keep doing what proves to work (for you) and
      stop doing the things that don't.

      See you in Orlando

      Willie
      Hey Willie,

      Wasn't sure if you were gonna be there... Very excited to see you again!

      All The Best,

      Caleb
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  • Profile picture of the author Jackson Tan
    yeah.. we always need to stay with the rookie mentality if we want to make it big in IM.
    once again there is no magic button to press for cash.. it all come from pure hard work and reinvesting back into the biz.

    Thanks Caleb for inspiring us warriors!

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

    yo warriors,

    I don't write up a thread too often... but this was just something I had to throw down, after reading some of the posts today on the forum. Some posts that honestly put a little shock and awe into me, at some of the recommendations of people...

    I want to tell you a story.... It begins where I started online, with my own "toy" websites when I was just a young guy... I was playing around... just toying around online, when I discovered "online advertising" and started deploying it on my site... (Note: This was just a play site.. by no means was it my business site)

    and I'll be honest with you... never made a single dime with it then... But, it's what attached me to online communities, blogs, and more about this industry.

    Unlike most "new marketers", I somehow (pure luck) missed seeing all of the hypey sales pages... crazy offers and more... (Perhaps because I had always thought those were plain scams -- of course, I know now many are "true" to a point)...

    As I began to be apart of these communities... I noticed there were a lot of things that internet marketers wanted and needed.... And I decided that I could write a couple of articles and earn a couple bucks...

    I did this without spending a dime on advertising...

    And it built up from there... Eventually I had hundreds of dollars saved up...

    And with that money I ended up investing in new projects, hosting companies, flipping sites, etc...

    So what is the point I'm trying to drive down here?

    Before you start dropping all of the cash that you have sitting in the bank upon some internet marketing training... something thats gonna make you a bazillionaire by 3am tonight... consider starting from the bottom, consider starting small... consider aiming for your first $1, instead of your first $10k day (Yeah, I know many people like this)...

    And when you've earned that first dollar... First $20.... re-invest it, whether it be buying domains, or even a training course that you think we'll help your business...

    If you start working your ass off for $1 a day... you'll be 1000000000x more grateful for the huge successes your business will eventually bring you.

    If this post will at least inspire one person, I'd truly be happy...

    To Your Success,

    Caleb

    p.s. hope to see you all at the WF event, let's rock it ;-)
    Awesome post Caleb!

    However I would say that - this story sounds like how I got started as well.

    The thing that kept me going was that people ARE making money online and you can choose to be a part of that or not.

    7-8 years down the line i still do the same things to an extent that got me started.

    Work hard, learn from results and then work harder with what you have learnt.
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  • Profile picture of the author WriterWahm
    Great advice Caleb; I agree with your post on so many levels. I had earned money online for close to a year before I bought my first product and that was a War Room membership . All in all, I've bought less than 10 WSOs and each one has been to help me leverage on what I am already doing.

    It is what I tell the newbies who mail me; don't spend money you don't have. I don't care what anyone says, you can start with $0 and make some money. I started with a blogger blog and paid for hosting and a domain name from money I had already earned. I've never fed my paypal account from my bank account (I can't afford to anyway)

    I still consider myself a newbie to some extent and this advice holds true. Thanks again, Caleb.
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  • Profile picture of the author Challendge
    100% agreed.

    Freelancing is the way to go to start off....then go from there. Passive income is the goal and that doesn't mean that it has to start that way. Most ppl do not succeed because they go for the head shot right away. Jabs add up
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  • Profile picture of the author RPaige
    Excellent advice. I, too, have noticed that many newbies expect to decide to get into this business one day and automatically be raking in millions the next day. I agree with setting high goals for yourself, but be reasonable about the time frame in which you expect to reach those goals.

    Focus more on smaller benchmarks which will eventually lead to your bigger goals!
    But, everyday take at least one step closer to your goal.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nice Nastahsa
      I am also working on getting my product out there... Nipplebands

      And I know of all of the techniques, and not looking for something overnight. Just looking for a starting point.

      Any Ideas?
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  • Profile picture of the author Merylo
    Your advice reminds me of this sentence:
    "That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind"

    maybe $100 in your first week is small for other people, but if you work on it step by step and slowly but sure, I am sure that happiness energy will electrocute your head and pump it up for the success of your next project.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    I agreee whole heartly with you Caleb. If you are trying to climb a mountain you began at the bottom and you have to climb it manually. Many people have seen these shocking statements on sales letters so they think they can scale the mountain in the first week. Making your first $1 online is your first milestone that will help give you motivation to keep climbing. Regardless of if any success comes quickly its every entreprenuers duty to climb until they are at the top and never quit until they do so. There are only two options QUIT or SUCCEED. Failure is not possible!
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Great post Caleb!

      I actually always like to think of my self as a newbie.

      Let me explain why. I liken a newbie to a small child who is is learning all the wonders of the world around them. The awe at discovering new things and the excitement that surrounds them is a motivating factor to keep learning more.

      I learned a long time ago that the more I know, the more I know that I don't know. If I were ever to come to a place where I thought I knew everything there is to know about marketing online and business in general, what a sad day that would be. I wouldn't be eager to learn anything new, I would scoff at what others shared that they had learned, and the excitement of trying new things would be dead.

      I want to keep on learning and trying and discovering new methods, for if I'm not, I'm not just standing tall and still, but falling behind because everything around me is constantly in motion.

      What a sad, sad day it would be when the desire to learn new things, one step at a time, was no more. May I forever be a newbie in that respect!

      Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author ckbank
    Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

    yo warriors,

    I don't write up a thread too often... but this was just something I had to throw down, after reading some of the posts today on the forum. Some posts that honestly put a little shock and awe into me, at some of the recommendations of people...

    I want to tell you a story.... It begins where I started online, with my own "toy" websites when I was just a young guy... I was playing around... just toying around online, when I discovered "online advertising" and started deploying it on my site... (Note: This was just a play site.. by no means was it my business site)

    and I'll be honest with you... never made a single dime with it then... But, it's what attached me to online communities, blogs, and more about this industry.

    Unlike most "new marketers", I somehow (pure luck) missed seeing all of the hypey sales pages... crazy offers and more... (Perhaps because I had always thought those were plain scams -- of course, I know now many are "true" to a point)...

    As I began to be apart of these communities... I noticed there were a lot of things that internet marketers wanted and needed.... And I decided that I could write a couple of articles and earn a couple bucks...

    I did this without spending a dime on advertising...

    And it built up from there... Eventually I had hundreds of dollars saved up...

    And with that money I ended up investing in new projects, hosting companies, flipping sites, etc...

    So what is the point I'm trying to drive down here?

    Before you start dropping all of the cash that you have sitting in the bank upon some internet marketing training... something thats gonna make you a bazillionaire by 3am tonight... consider starting from the bottom, consider starting small... consider aiming for your first $1, instead of your first $10k day (Yeah, I know many people like this)...

    And when you've earned that first dollar... First $20.... re-invest it, whether it be buying domains, or even a training course that you think we'll help your business...

    If you start working your ass off for $1 a day... you'll be 1000000000x more grateful for the huge successes your business will eventually bring you.

    If this post will at least inspire one person, I'd truly be happy...

    To Your Success,

    Caleb

    p.s. hope to see you all at the WF event, let's rock it ;-)
    Yo Caleb, I'll always be a newb because I am a non-conformist. lol
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