Blog traffic zero - what should I do now?

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I had a blog with 600-800 word "unique" articles updated 5 times a week. Domain was not exact but had a couple of KW's within and the traffic is now vertually zero since the latest update. I hear this word EMD low quality sites were hit - I don't think this site was low grade at all.

What ideally is the next step....

Should I just forget the blog now?
It is advisable to change the domain?
Could I just take all the content from this site and put it all on another related blog that I have?

If anyone else is in the same situation and can offer any going forward advice I would really appreciate.

Thanks
#blog #traffic
  • Profile picture of the author MyNiches
    Is there any particular reason you wrote "unique" with quotes around it? Without any more information, I'm learning towards that as a possibly culprit... Care to give any more details?
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    • Profile picture of the author Moneyland
      Originally Posted by MyNiches View Post

      Is there any particular reason you wrote "unique" with quotes around it? Without any more information, I'm learning towards that as a possibly culprit... Care to give any more details?
      I was only highlighting the word "Unique" in my post. I keep hearing low quality EMD sites have been hit and I really don't know what this means. I updated my site 5 times a week with 5 unique articles that were up to 800 words. The blog generated many sales because I was offering good quality information. I never did any backlinking on the site. I wrote quality articles and they would rank naturally.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roshaan
    bro you should shift to a new domain name and do work on that domain name i am sure you will be sucessfull if you will do hardwork
    just do as much hard work you've done on previous posts
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    • Profile picture of the author Moneyland
      Originally Posted by Roshaan View Post

      bro you should shift to a new domain name and do work on that domain name i am sure you will be sucessfull if you will do hardwork
      just do as much hard work you've done on previous posts
      So are you saying simply change the domain name on the site and continue to update site as before or is there more to it :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author JabMonkey
        Originally Posted by Moneyland View Post

        So are you saying simply change the domain name on the site and continue to update site as before or is there more to it :confused:
        I wouldn't jump ship to a new domain so fast. Really. Just hang tight for a week or two. If the site was making decent money, then it's worth waiting for a couple of weeks to see if you get things rolling again from a Google correction, which no doubt many will.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryPabelate
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    Yes, it is due to recent update in penguin, this update is targeting emd and small website, you need to build authority site from now for better result.

    Instead of building links you should build brand name of your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Moneyland
      Originally Posted by MaryPabelate View Post

      Yes, it is due to recent update in penguin, this update is targeting emd and small website, you need to build authority site from now for better result.

      Instead of building links you should build brand name of your site.
      I never have built any links on the site. I just wrote quality content daily thinking that is what Google was looking for and I used to rank. That is why I am so confused :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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        Although good content is a vital component of a successful blog or website, there are so many algorithm changes by Google (and no-one knows what to expect next) that it's suicide to depend on content alone.

        You should regularly be doing:

        Article/blog submissions
        SEO
        Forum signature links
        Reciprocal links with similar niches
        Keyword research
        Social media marketing
        YouTube videos

        . . . and a whole lot more.

        You've only yourself to blame if you're naive enough to believe that a SINGLE MARKETING METHOD (i.e. content) will guarantee success.
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        • Profile picture of the author webcashuk
          All of the above advice is good and you were doing well so the most important thing to do is don't get down or think about quitting.Research about back links,article websites squidoo, twitter,Facebook etc , the possibilities are endless.Whilst what you were doing was good the reality of it is that you placed yourself totally in the hands of google , so now you just have to build a few escape routes and by doing this slowly and surely you will dig yourself out of this situation.

          Grit your teeth and keep on trucking , see this as an opportunity rather than a set back


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    • Profile picture of the author sadneck
      Originally Posted by MaryPabelate View Post

      Yes, it is due to recent update in penguin, this update is targeting emd and small website, you need to build authority site from now for better result.

      Instead of building links you should build brand name of your site.
      You hit the nail on the head. There has been a shift in the internet... We must shift with it. Forget link building for now and find other ways to build knowledge of your site.

      Keywords can still be grabbed, just do it without alerting google that your site is so hungry to be linked too.

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  • Profile picture of the author MilkerFocus
    Which niche it is about? Do you try to promote your blog? Like go to Yahoo Answer. Answer the questions related to your blog. How is your blog looks like? Change the theme can be more attractive.
    Did you try some paid traffic source? Like Facebook CPC. It's very targeted.
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  • Profile picture of the author Manie Amari
    SEO traffic takes time. You've got to be patient and put in the work. However, you could also go for paid methods instead.

    What should you do?

    It depensd on what you want out of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author glowworm
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      You've got some excellent advice within the thread replies. It's up to you to act on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    I'm glad I got to this post by now. So far, you've gotten some bad and good advice from people.

    Your domain name has zero to do with the amount of traffic you're getting. It sounds like you didn't have rankings to start with so there is no new change that screwed you up. Also, the negative EMD changes aren't coming into effect until 2013. The EMD changes made so far to the algorithm hasn't negatively effected people that haven't screwed up somewhere else in their formula.

    Buying a new domain and redoing the site would be like starting from day 1 and repeating the exact same steps you already have getting the same results. You know what they call that... Insanity.

    You have a site, now start doing things to send traffic to that site. If you don't know how to do SEO by now, I always tell newcomers not to bother with it anymore. It's fading out and the reoccurring changes to the algorithm WILL NOT be stopping anytime soon. Which means every time you do figure it out, you're going to have to figure it out again.

    I suggest not worrying about SEO so you don't have to put up with that stress.

    There are luckily about 1,000 ways to get traffic to your site. You just need to choose one of the other 999 for now.

    You are updating your site with new content every week you say.... Instead of posting that new article on your site this week, find a blog in your niche that gets some comments on their posts. Then ask to guest post your article on their site. Leave a link to your blog from the article and you successfully have traffic. Depending on the blog, it could be long term.

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    • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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      Originally Posted by petelta View Post

      I'm glad I got to this post by now. So far, you've gotten some really shitty advice from some people.
      Instead of insulting people who took time to post suggestions, why don't you take time out to be more specific about yours . . . Mr Bigshot from Nashville.


      Originally Posted by petelta View Post

      Your domain name has zero to do with the amount of traffic you're getting.
      Where did you get that pearl of wisdom from? If your domain name is relevant or contains keywords, it's obviously going to help with ranking positions within your niche, particularly if it's an older domain. The higher the ranking the more traffic you get.


      Originally Posted by petelta View Post

      I suggest not worrying about SEO so you don't have to put up with that stress.

      There are luckily about 1,000 ways to get traffic to your site. You just need to choose one of the other 999 for now.
      So, why not tell the OP these 999 ways, and educate all the people who've given him "shitty advice" at the same time.


      Originally Posted by petelta View Post

      . . . find a blog in your niche that gets some comments on their posts. Then ask to guest post your article on their site. Leave a link to your blog from the article and you successfully have traffic.
      He's already been advised article submissions, and forum/blog links, so this adds nothing new.

      I wouldn't say you "successfully have traffic" by doing this. It's entirely dependant upon the quality and relevance of the article, and the popularity of the blog you submit to.
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      • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
        I'd say forget SEO. When you think you have it cracked the Google engineers will pull the rug from under you.
        Try and go for hundreds of unique articles and enjoy all the long tail keyword traffic you will inevitably get from it.
        If you end up with hundreds of articles, then its just like throwing a load of mud at a wall and seeing what sitcks, thats one of my main strategies now.
        Also research guest blogging and article marketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
        Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

        Instead of insulting people who took time to post suggestions, why don't you take time out to be more specific about yours . . . Mr Bigshot from Nashville.




        Where did you get that pearl of wisdom from? If your domain name is relevant or contains keywords, it's obviously going to help with ranking positions within your niche, particularly if it's an older domain. The higher the ranking the more traffic you get.




        So, why not tell the OP these 999 ways, and educate all the people who've given him "shitty advice" at the same time.




        He's already been advised article submissions, and forum/blog links, so this adds nothing new.

        I wouldn't say you "successfully have traffic" by doing this. It's entirely dependant upon the quality and relevance of the article, and the popularity of the blog you submit to.
        I think yours and Travis' posts are(and it's a matter of opinion) the best in the thread so far, even though they differ. I don't think accusing someone of insulting others, then in turn insulting them is very constructive, either.

        Moneyland - you have a site that contains a lot of content, and you are updating it with fresh content 5 times a week. This is a very positive foundation you have. If you were(I've been there before, as have many others) relying on Google for most of your traffic, then take this as a lesson that it is unwise to do so. I always have SEO in mind, I still build backlinks, I try to give the SE's what they 'want', I have even 'cleaned up' my backlink profiles but first and foremost it's about making my visitors happy. These days my approach to my work is almost as if I will never get a visitor from a search engine ever again. I welcome search engine traffic, but will never depend on it.

        I think you should make sure to really research your niche, find out what they want, and position yourself to try and give it to them. What forums do they hang out at? What sites do they visit? What products would they be interested in?

        I think the fact you are enthusiastic about writing is a huge positive. You can get your content syndicated, you can guest post, you can help people in your niche in the forums they frequent, you can create reports and e-books, you can build your list and send out E-Mails regularly. So many ways to get traffic and make money. So what if you've lost your search engine visitors? Search engine traffic often isn't of the best quality anyway. Dust yourself off and get to work on replacing the traffic you have lost!
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        • Profile picture of the author Manie Amari
          Originally Posted by Liam Hamer View Post

          I think yours and Travis' posts are(and it's a matter of opinion) the best in the thread so far, even though they differ. I don't think accusing someone of insulting others, then in turn insulting them is very constructive, either.
          It might not be contructive but at least HornyDevil is making a stand for the rest of use trying to support the OP. Not everyone will have great advice for the OP. Also it's not a sport replying to questions here. Giving advice is contributing to the community. Whether it's valuable or not is a whole different matter. We are all ill-informed learning to better our knowledge coming here.

          Just sayin...

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        • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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          Originally Posted by Liam Hamer View Post

          I don't think accusing someone of insulting others, then in turn insulting them is very constructive . . .
          Hey, I was being complimentary in a roundabout way :rolleyes:. Except WE won the Ryder Cup.

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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

        Instead of insulting people who took time to post suggestions, why don't you take time out to be more specific about yours .

        Where did you get that pearl of wisdom from? If your domain name is relevant or contains keywords, it's obviously going to help with ranking positions within your niche, particularly if it's an older domain. The higher the ranking the more traffic you get.
        First off, I thought your suggestions were great Horny Devil. I guess you classified yourself in the bad ideas that were given when I said shitty advice.

        I was calling the bad advice from the guys who said the EMD matters for his zero traffic. It doesn't. It has very little to do with why he doesn't have rankings. SEO requires a ton of other factors to be just right.

        You're right... guest posting requires a few things to be in order like quality and content... but much less than SEO.

        I'm trying to make this guys job easier. He wants traffic and SEO is not the best way to go about it. I was giving him an easy to follow simple step by step solution to traffic that he can get results this week.

        People need 1 method to work before they can do all those suggestions.

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  • Profile picture of the author denysapu
    I love the #3 option you mentioned.
    If not, make sure you do not only depend on the search engines for the traffic sources
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisnos
    Originally Posted by Moneyland View Post

    I had a blog with 600-800 word "unique" articles updated 5 times a week. Domain was not exact but had a couple of KW's within and the traffic is now vertually zero since the latest update. I hear this word EMD low quality sites were hit - I don't think this site was low grade at all.

    What ideally is the next step....

    Should I just forget the blog now?
    It is advisable to change the domain?
    Could I just take all the content from this site and put it all on another related blog that I have?

    If anyone else is in the same situation and can offer any going forward advice I would really appreciate.

    Thanks
    All I could say is file a reconsideration request w/ G... my site is a great site that is in the sandbox as well... I'd say just find other projects for now, and see what happens with your blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author ramonakicks
    you could have writing guest posts on other blogs
    and submitting some of your articles to ezine
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      You just can't simply change your domain name, unless you go and redirect all of your posts to land on your new domain, and there is little point in doing that.

      EMD's were a big deal a while back, and while it can hurt your rankings if you have a junky site with the only thing of value being the domain name itself, it is certainly not the be-all end-all of ranking your site.

      With good content and good connections you can get a good amount of traffic and rankings back. It sounds like you already have good content, so maybe you need to be a bit more connected.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Keep marketing and find other ways to get traffic. Consider ranking high on Bing and Yahoo too. Don't neglect other free and paid ways to get traffic to your blog.
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    • Profile picture of the author Moneyland
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Keep marketing and find other ways to get traffic. Consider ranking high on Bing and Yahoo too. Don't neglect other free and paid ways to get traffic to your blog.
      How would one start ranking high on Bing and Yahoo :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    Keep continue your posting. Some blog need a year or more to get steady traffic, subs or sales
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  • Profile picture of the author Tayman
    The best advice anyone can give you is to stop depending so heavily on google traffic in the first place.

    Evaluate your current situation and make sure the number 1 or 2 is never present. What do I mean?

    How many techniques are you using to generate traffic? 1
    How many websites are you working on? 1(?)
    Is most of your traffic dependent on 1 source? Yes

    Is it possible to make it big with one site? Of course. Would you want to waste years chasing mediocre results instead of using the 80/20 rule? Nah. (80% of your revenue will come from 20% of your efforts) Focus on what's working and scale it.

    Rant: So many of us have made sites that were killing it in google only to have the rug randomly pulled from underneath them multiple times over the years. F(^#$ google, you don't need them to make big money in Internet Marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author StingGB
      F(^#$ google, you don't need them to make big money in Internet Marketing.[/QUOTE]

      Here here (as we say in the UK)
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    • Profile picture of the author StingGB
      Originally Posted by Tayman View Post

      F(^#$ google, you don't need them to make big money in Internet Marketing.
      Here here (as we say in the UK)
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    Originally Posted by Moneyland View Post

    I had a blog with 600-800 word "unique" articles updated 5 times a week. Domain was not exact but had a couple of KW's within and the traffic is now vertually zero since the latest update. I hear this word EMD low quality sites were hit - I don't think this site was low grade at all.

    What ideally is the next step....

    Should I just forget the blog now?
    It is advisable to change the domain?
    Could I just take all the content from this site and put it all on another related blog that I have?

    If anyone else is in the same situation and can offer any going forward advice I would really appreciate.

    Thanks
    Two words: Social Media

    Diversify away from Google.

    BTW. I know some VERY high quality blogs that were hit by this update.

    This one had a lot of collateral damage...way to go Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author HimanshuS
    Originally Posted by Moneyland View Post

    I had a blog with 600-800 word "unique" articles updated 5 times a week. Domain was not exact but had a couple of KW's within and the traffic is now vertually zero since the latest update. I hear this word EMD low quality sites were hit - I don't think this site was low grade at all.

    What ideally is the next step....

    Should I just forget the blog now?
    It is advisable to change the domain?
    Could I just take all the content from this site and put it all on another related blog that I have?

    If anyone else is in the same situation and can offer any going forward advice I would really appreciate.

    Thanks

    First of all - how old is the domain?
    It may take sometime before some of your pages start appearing on page 1 to 10. Check for the pages for specific kws. Keep writing and make some social book marking. It will improve your ranking and you will start getting some traffic.

    If you aren't getting any traffic - check if the site is still indexed in Google.

    About EMDs - they're not penalized. That would be wrong to say. Only thing they don't get the favor they used to get earlier from Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author xatsmann
      Originally Posted by HimanshuS View Post

      If you aren't getting any traffic - check if the site is still indexed in Google.
      HimanshuS...can you elaborate on Google's indexing? I thought all the search engines used spiders to catalogue all the pages so it was just a question of being on line a certain amount of time and then leaving your page up to simply get indexed. Is this incorrect?
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by xatsmann View Post

        HimanshuS...can you elaborate on Google's indexing? I thought all the search engines used spiders to catalogue all the pages so it was just a question of being on line a certain amount of time and then leaving your page up to simply get indexed. Is this incorrect?
        You're going to want to get lost in this section for awhile...

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  • Profile picture of the author adamreilly1997
    Build an authority site. Keep blasting out content, build a list and use social media!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve L
    Originally Posted by Moneyland View Post

    I had a blog with 600-800 word "unique" articles updated 5 times a week. Domain was not exact but had a couple of KW's within and the traffic is now vertually zero since the latest update. I hear this word EMD low quality sites were hit - I don't think this site was low grade at all.

    What ideally is the next step....

    Should I just forget the blog now?
    It is advisable to change the domain?
    Could I just take all the content from this site and put it all on another related blog that I have?

    If anyone else is in the same situation and can offer any going forward advice I would really appreciate.

    Thanks
    If by "unique" you mean that they were spun to be unique, that could be the problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Cavan
    SEO is a slow and constant uphill battle.

    My recommendation is to build off a single domain. Stay focused and create subdomains and directories targeting specific keywords in your niche. Make sure that each sub domain has fresh and original titles and meta tags. This way the spiders see new content. Then, feed your rss feed to all the subs and directories. Make sure to link all these sites together with a blog roll in the right or left column. you can also create a massive amount of capture pages on these subdomains as well. The choice is yours.

    As you write articles, every now and again link another post into your current blog post. interlinking is very powerful. I am in the process of building 100 subs off of one of my domains. It is working very well on the search engines. hope this makes sense.

    I have proven to myself that it doesn't matter what the name of your domain is; you can target it to any keyword you want and get top placement.-(That is if you have the tools and knowledge).
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    Why not focus on other sources of traffic instead of just relying on search engine traffic? If you need ideas, here are 50 traffic sources with an in-depth explanation of their pros and cons. Critique of 50 top ways to drive traffic to your site | free website traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author Ed Micah
    Yes, the Google is hunting down all the low quality EMD wbesites. If I were you, I'd start focusing to build your website as an authority website. And that way you should be fine!
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    Don't rely on any one traffic source. Google's CRACKDOWN hasn't stopped yet. There's so many other SEO practices it can shutdown like web 2.0 links, sig links, forum auto bot spam links, comment bot spam, etc

    Don't let your fortunes go down the toilet with Big G. Develop other traffic streams instead. Most of all, have your own site visitors act as your promoters. That's the best way forward.
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  • Profile picture of the author milestophilly
    Hey guys...

    Hope it's okay to post in here. I've searched other threads and this is the closest I could find to my question.

    I started 2 new reviews sites a month ago. I don't have exact domain names. I have posted content of value, all unique, that actually helps the reader learn about my products based on my research. I have 25 posts on each site. I was starting to get traffic and then BAM, about 5 days ago my sites went to virtually zero traffic.

    I have a thought but don't know if it would work. Could I purchase an aged domain name, say like 2 or 3 years old that has some page rank and then slowly move my content to the aged domain. I could then slowly remove the posts from the current site that's apparently been sandboxed.

    What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author Larry Leggett
    Be patient. We always see a lot of changes suddenly in search results immediately when a latest update takes place. It can take a few days may be a week to get back in track. Keep posting high quality contents in your blog. Do not stop that at all. Blogs stays alive and gets traffic for their contents.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffonmission
    I agree with many of the sentiments above - social media and guest blogging. I'm not sure if you were "hiding" behind your site before but it's time to come out in the open and get word out about your blog.

    Another sentiment I agree with is that it's dangerous to be relying solely on Google traffic anymore. They don't really get their money from search results and people clicking on those links - it comes from Adwords.

    Start building a list from your blog next time. If your content was that good (and I'm sure it was if you were making sales!), there should be no reason why you can't write a great free ebook to give away.

    Sorry this happened to you but you now have some great feedback to work with to come out victorious.
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    If you really want sustainable traffic, invest in building up the community on your site. Put up a blog. Offer frequently updated materials. Foster engagement. Get into the heads of your visitors and make your site an AUTHORITY.
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    use seo and smo
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  • Profile picture of the author MLMBrander
    Based on the # of articles you have on your blog it seems that you're trying to take advantage on SEO for keywords.

    It's good but building your brand/ and the personality of your blog would matter in the long run. Understand where your traffic is coming from and try to scale it up. You can use Google Analytics for this.

    Cheers!

    HINT**: Put a subscriber box out there and try connecting with your audience.
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