How Come We Never Hear From The "Vendors" On Clickbank?

by esr
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I read a lot of threads regarding Clickbank and how we're never sure if we're getting credited for all of our orders, etc. Mostly from Clickbank affiliates.

I'd like to hear from someone who is actually selling a product on Clickbank? I'm thinking about doing it, but don't really know much about it.

I know it costs $50 to sign up, but beyond that, I know nothing. I have some questions:

Is it worth the $50 to list your product?

How do you attract affiliates within Clickbank to sell your product?

Would I have to use a hoplink to sell my own product?

Do you get paid at the same two week intervals?

And, most importantly, has listing your product on Clickbank been successful for you? Would you recommend others to do it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I have a bunch of products in Clickbank but fellow warrior Harvey Segal is the reigning CB expert and has been for years. He can give you much better info than me or most other people can.

    If he doesn't respond, his site is over at: How to Make Money on the Net

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  • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
    Success comes down to the marketer, my friend. Robert Kiyosaki told a woman on a TV show something like, "Of course you know more than me about this, I'm just a better marketer...".

    Clickbank has always been a decent place but your ability to get affiliates will come from your ability to network and JV. You can find them one at a time, or 1000 at a time depending on your understanding of leveraging.

    Good luck,
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    ESR


    Is it worth the $50 to list your product?
    Depends on how much work you're willing to do to get affiliates. Just
    listing your product will not guarantee that you'll get a lot of people
    promoting it for you. Also, the $50 is not for the listing. It's just to
    have Clickbank sell your product for you. Truth is, if after 30 days you
    don't make any sales (the first 30 days you're listed under new products)
    you get removed from the marketplace.

    Aside from the listing, the only other Clickbank benefit is that you'll
    get paid regularly as long as you make sales. Of course if you just sell
    your product through PayPal, you can transfer the money immediately.
    So in that respect, Clickbank has little to offer there that I can't get
    elsewhere.

    How do you attract affiliates within Clickbank to sell your product?
    You promote, just like you would the actual product. You create affiliate
    tools and make it attractive for affiliates to want to promote you, including
    giving a very generous commission percentage. Most give 75% today. Plus,
    if you have a higher end product (above $50) you'll attract more affiliates.
    Affiliates don't want to bust their tails for a $10 commission.

    Would I have to use a hoplink to sell my own product?
    No, you would use the main URL of the site. Of course you could open
    up other accounts as an affiliate and sell the product through those IDs
    in order to raise your gravity, but you'd have to open quite a few accounts
    for it to make any significant difference.

    Do you get paid at the same two week intervals?
    Yes.

    And, most importantly, has listing your product on Clickbank been successful for you? Would you recommend others to do it?
    I don't actively seek affiliates so I would say no, I have not been
    successful.

    I've been selling products through Clickbank for years. I got lucky with
    my first one and got hold of a super affiliate who sold quite a few of them.
    But since that time, nobody has come close. If I get 2 or 3 affiliates
    promoting one of my products at a time, that's a lot.

    Clickbank is not an "automatic" money maker for merchants or affiliates.
    It takes lots of work on both ends.

    Just like anything else in this business.

    Anyway, hope his helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ryan700
      Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post


      Also, the $50 is not for the listing. It's just to
      have Clickbank sell your product for you. Truth is, if after 30 days you
      don't make any sales (the first 30 days you're listed under new products)
      you get removed from the marketplace.
      So it's a good idea to revisit your hoplinks to see if they're still valid? I've had affilliate links on my sites for months without checking.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by Ryan700 View Post

        So it's a good idea to revisit your hoplinks to see if they're still valid? I've had affilliate links on my sites for months without checking.
        Ryan, having a product removed from the marketplace listings does NOT
        remove it from Clickbank. It's just not listed. But the product can still be
        sold.

        The listing is just for affiliates to find. But truth is, unless you're on the
        first couple of pages, they're not going to find you anyway...kind of like
        with the search engines. I mean, so what if you're on page 442 of Google?

        Nobody is ever going to look that far.
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  • Profile picture of the author esr
    Thank you all, especially Steve. I suppose I was looking at Clickbank, for all these years, as the end-all, be-all for getting affiliates to sell my product, but I can see now how wrong I was.

    I'll research every avenue before deciding. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author iplusgold
    Yeah I defintely echo what Stephen had to say...its not a get rich quick road at all and you still need to have the relationships with affiliates to do the JV's etc. My first product that I stuck up on CB received exactly 0 affiliates promoting it...so just pumping something up there and hoping your goign to have 1000 pimping it is unrealistic.

    Best of luck
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    • Profile picture of the author berthern
      Originally Posted by iplusgold View Post

      Yeah I definitely echo what Stephen had to say...its not a get rich quick road at all and you still need to have the relationships with affiliates to do the JV's etc. My first product that I stuck up on CB received exactly 0 affiliates promoting it...so just pumping something up there and hoping your going to have 1000 pimping it is unrealistic.

      Best of luck
      So what is the the benefits of using clickbank?? The affiliate software they provide? Because to me if I have to let them play with my money... take a percentage for themselves... and I have to STILL recruit affiliates... why use them at all!

      Just my 2 cents
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by berthern View Post

        So what is the the benefits of using clickbank?? The affiliate software they provide? Because to me if I have to let them play with my money... take a percentage for themselves... and I have to STILL recruit affiliates... why use them at all!

        Just my 2 cents
        Any payment processor that you use is going to take a percentage of
        your money.

        What, you think when you make a $97 sale you get to keep all of it with
        any payment processor? Keep dreaming.

        And, with Clickbank, you don't have to worry about being paid. Yes, you
        do have to meet minimum sales requirements (5 sales with 5 different
        credit card numbers, two different credit cards and PayPal sales don't
        count) which is a pain in the backside at first. But hey, if you can't make
        5 sales, what are you doing in this business anyway?

        Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that Clickbank is the answer to all
        your prayers. It's not. But there is worse out there, believe me.

        It's like I said, and it's true about anything in this business. You'll get out
        of it what you put into it.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    I've used clickbank as a merchant for years with great success. If you're going to promote a product anyway, why not put that same effort forth in promoting to and gaining affiliates? That same effort will be multiplied exponentially if you gain affiliates to do the work for you. I have several products that I've spent months on gaining affiliates, and now they bring me in hundreds daily with no effort on my part. Rinse and repeat, and then go on vacation while your affiliates are still hard at work making you and them money.
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    • Profile picture of the author edhan
      I have been using Clickbank for a long while though business may not be great for selling my own products. Now I am doing mostly other's products instead. My latest idea is helping out my daughter who is managing a share video site, converting it from Google adsense to become Clickbank sharing. It is just in the beginning stage so do not know if that is going to be successful or not. As the saying goes, you will not know until you try it. So, I hope it will be successful for her.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Harding
    Hey
    I'm with Steve.
    I have found that if you are sellign soemthing without the benefit of a big product launch with lots of affilaites and JV partners, I've found it better to use Paypal and RAP script.
    I've not done yet a big JV launch but if and when I do, I'll use CB for that. However, I have found in other nichess, PP and RAP work well enough without the $50 up front.

    My two pennies worth

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    • Profile picture of the author esr
      Originally Posted by Simon Harding View Post

      Hey
      I'm with Steve.
      I have found that if you are sellign soemthing without the benefit of a big product launch with lots of affilaites and JV partners, I've found it better to use Paypal and RAP script.
      I've not done yet a big JV launch but if and when I do, I'll use CB for that. However, I have found in other nichess, PP and RAP work well enough without the $50 up front.

      My two pennies worth

      Simon
      What is RAP? I've been searching Google for a way to use Paypal for affiliates but haven't found anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      While I can see that doing it that way makes some sense, you're also missing out on the potential extra sales that being in the CB marketplace can bring.

      I've sold new products in clickbank before and then when I've run a WSO (to give my warrior family a discount) the extra surge in sales going through clickbank has caused a bunch of new people to find it in the CB marketplace and also sell it.

      So I think there's a time and place for using CB.
      Andy


      Originally Posted by Simon Harding View Post

      Hey
      I'm with Steve.
      I have found that if you are sellign soemthing without the benefit of a big product launch with lots of affilaites and JV partners, I've found it better to use Paypal and RAP script.
      I've not done yet a big JV launch but if and when I do, I'll use CB for that. However, I have found in other nichess, PP and RAP work well enough without the $50 up front.

      My two pennies worth

      Simon
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Harding
    Hi Andy

    Yeah, good point. I've not thought of that angle. How does that work in practise? How do you offer the WSO through Clickbank at a discount and still retain teh full price version for other affiliates to find?

    Thanks

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