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Are you losing hard earned commissions?

by GoodnightSweetRatRace
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About a week ago, I found a product in the Clickbank Marketplace which I wanted to promote to my subscribers.

Only one problem, it had an exit pop-up which is incentivized to grab the visitors email address. This is a big no-no, so I contacted the vendor and asked if it was possible to get a custom link without the exit pop-up.

This was the response I got the same day..

"Since all of our technical aspects of our site, as well as our Sales & Marketing are outsourced, I will have to find out about your first question (i.e., removing the exit pop ups). We have several thousand affiliates and to my knowledge, no one has asked that question before, so I am unsure of the answer."

I was surprised to see that not one affiliate had ever asked her that question before. Not only do you risk losing your commissions, but you risk sharing your subscribers. Any serious affiliate will tell you not to promote a product that has leaks. (Email opt-in boxes)

If you ever come across this problem (you most likely will) then always ask the Vendor, because most of the time they will help.
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  • Profile picture of the author nadal619
    I agree with you , not promoting this product , but i am not sure that the vendor will remove this exit pop up
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      A work-around is to make your own sales page with a direct link to the CB payment page. You will need to get explicit permission from the vendor to use this method, and of course it will not set a cookie session. But I have been doing this for all of the Clickbank products I promote, primarily because of the generally poor converting vendor sales pages and for my own alternative marketing venues.

      Here is the payment link format to embed in your custom sales page:
      Code:
      http://ProductNumber.affiliate_vendor.pay.clickbank.net
or
http://clickbank.net/sell.cgi?affiliate_vendor/ProductNumber/ProductName
      Where ProdNumber is the product ID number (Usually "1", but some vendors sell multiple products with the same account)

      And affiliate is your CB affiliate nickname

      And vendor is the vendor name

      The product name and product number can generally be found in the merchant’s original checkout link.

      Test the link yourself before adding it to your landing/sales page. If your affiliate nickname shows at the bottom of the payment page, it is working properly. Also if you want, buy the product through your direct payment link, and your sale will show up immediately in your Clickbank account. Then approach the vendor with your solution.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by GoodnightSweetRatRace View Post

    I was surprised to see that not one affiliate had ever asked her that question before.
    I'm extremely surprised (to put it politely!). Especially if they really have "thousands of affiliates" - that surpasses all understanding.

    Yes - this is something you'd definitely want to see changed, one way or another, before considering promoting the product (unless you decide to replace the entire sales page as described by Paul, above).

    I agree with you that vendors will often help, in such situations.
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    • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
      I agree with all that myob has said but just a word of warning on this
      Originally Posted by myob View Post

      Test the link yourself before adding it to your landing/sales page. If your affiliate nickname shows at the bottom of the payment page, it is working properly.
      You may have first tried the correct hoplink on this in which case the cookie will correctly contain your affiliate id.

      Then if you accidentally miscode your affiliate id in the direct link it will still appear to be working (because it will not override the existing cookie).

      So be sure to clear cookies first before testing.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    Some Clickbank vendors will get you cookied-in on
    Their AR series. If not you can ask to see if this is an option.
    If it is get on their list through your link and test the AR emails.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark72
    Most of the big product launch products in the MMO do this.

    As stated above, this can sometimes be a positive thing if the vendor has an email followup series.

    Enter one of you spam emil addresses in the opt in box and if they do follow up with promoting the same offer, click all the way through to the payment page to see if your affiliate ID is there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Mark72 View Post

      Enter one of you spam emil addresses in the opt in box and if they do follow up with promoting the same offer, click all the way through to the payment page to see if your affiliate ID is there.
      And if they're just sending something different to one subscriber in two/three/four/five, as some vendors do - how will it help you then?

      How will you even know about it?

      If they pay 75% commissions, they need to send their own hoplink only to one subscriber in four to double their income. Quite an incentive for them to do something like what I found 85% of these vendors with an opt-in were doing, when I randomly checked out a bunch of them in 2009/10, isn't it?

      (Besides which, you'd have to check them out for a long time, to be sure, wouldn't you? A ClickBank cookie has a 60-day duration ...).

      Apologies if I seem argumentative about it ... I'm simply trying to make the point that the theory that "you can check this out for yourself by opting in and seeing what comes back" is actually a flawed one, for all the reasons explained here and there, throughout this fine thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oduct-opt.html

      The sad reality is that "losing hard-earned commissions", as it's expressed in this thread's title, is actually a very accurate description of what tends to happen to affiliates who promote products with a vendor's opt-in on (or attached to) their sales pages, even if they adopt your suggestion above.
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      • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
        I have recently been doing a lot of CB research in the IM niche. It's nearly impossible to find a product without leaks.

        Someone should start a leak-free affiliate network so us "old-timers" can continue to be affiliates.

        I have done some direct linking to CB order forms by copying the image url of the CB order button with my own cookie set. Worked fine.
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